Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 71
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ecosophia
As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
Re: Predictions for 2023 and wider thoughts
Date: 2022-12-19 03:24 pm (UTC)The experiment is running, all that's left now is the data collection. Or goalseeking depending on who you are and what your agenda is.
What's happening in China?
Date: 2022-12-19 03:39 pm (UTC)Here the PMC version
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-64010209
I want to write a "fictional" explanation of this supposed chaos. Chinese people in hospitals arent't dying of BOVID, but they are falling like flies because of the vaccines illnesses.
However, I'm not sure and I don't have much inforamtion about this massacre...
-A Spaniard.
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Date: 2022-12-19 04:11 pm (UTC)Also on the geopolitical level things are played to close in the vicinity of disaster:
Re: Predictions for 2023 and wider thoughts
Date: 2022-12-19 05:32 pm (UTC)Re: Doctors and eggheads are buzzing about unavailability of key antibiotic drugs in Oz.
Date: 2022-12-19 05:44 pm (UTC)I had mentioned in another thread that I know no less than three different people (in different states) who had the exact same story: they went to a walk-in clinic with what they suspected was a bacterial infection, looking for antibiotics to clear it up. In every case, they were given a covid test, and, when the covid test came up negative, dismissed with "it's just a virus, go home." All three people got worse, went to the emergency room, and were diagnosed with bacterial infections - strep, sinus infection, and double pneumonia, respectively - all of which had gotten to relatively advanced stages thanks to the early misdiagnosis of "it's not covid, get lost." The sinus infection did clear up with just one antibiotic, but the the person with strep had to take multiple oral antibiotics to knock it out, and the person with the pneumonia wound up having to be admitted to the hospital for 48 hours of intravenous antibiotics before being sent home with additional oral ones. In every case, it's entirely possible that had they gotten a proper diagnosis and an oral antibiotic early on, they would have in the end needed FEWER drugs to get rid of these infections.
Is it possible that a widespread attitude of "it's not covid, get lost" is delaying care to the point where it's increasing demand in the long run?
Re: Vax rates vs excess mortality
Date: 2022-12-19 06:28 pm (UTC)- The data are from week 1 to week 44 in 2022. I've pointed out before that the first Omicron wave led to excess mortality, but since then it is different. It would be interesting to see what results come up if they do the regressions with data starting May 1st this year. I bet the positive correlation between excess mortality and fully vaccinated % would be much stronger.
- "When we aggregate all of the excess mortality for all countries in this analysis (USA, Canda, much of Europe and some southern hemisphere countries: Australia, Chile, New Zealand, and Korea) we can see, in the chart below, that excess mortality more or less tracks the covid trend: when covid rises, excess rises soon after. But this only occurs UNTIL around week 12, when the excess mortality signal separates from the covid signal and as covid declines the excess remains high." - I think this can be explained by changes in test-policy. Many countries changed their policy this March or April and started to test only people who were very ill.
- The previous point also explains why the vaccines temporal analysis shows no significance in week 1-12, but does show significance in the later weeks. This is because if only very ill people are being tested, this means that when more people are ill, there will be more tests and so more infections are being found. This leads of course to a positive correlation between infections and excess mortality.
- If this same vaccines temporal analysis would be extended to 2021, they would probabely find a NEGATIVE correlation between excess mortality and fully vaccination % as the vax saved lives in the short term. As Rintrah said, they sacrificed the young and able in order to give the 80-plussers an extra spring. In the statistics this would show up as "succes" for the vax as mortality in 2021 would be lower in the high-vaxxed countries.
- a technical quibble: they seem to have used OLS, but it would be easy to adress the difference in country size simply by using WLS with weights the number of inhabitants of the country. This would probabely not lead to significantly different outcomes but would make the analysis more convincing.
Re: Something strange going on
Date: 2022-12-19 06:57 pm (UTC)I agree the young could very well have more incidence of myocarditis then the elder. As for the baseline, that's why I always look at the % to make comparisons between age-brackets.
Re: Something strange going on
Date: 2022-12-19 07:24 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2022-12-19 07:45 pm (UTC)Thank you for your contributions to this forum. I will miss you.
Re: Predictions for 2023 and wider thoughts
Date: 2022-12-19 08:17 pm (UTC)- Most attention will be going to a severe economic downturn. Prices of food and energy will keep rising. The economic crisis will put additional pressure on the health care system.
- A famine will cause a refugee crisis that dwarfs 2015
- The long term effects of the vaxx will be seen as more infections, cancer, hart- and bloodclot problems. Also childbirth will stay lower than expected
- It will be a very auspicious time for change through spiritual practice
Re: Predictions for 2023 and wider thoughts
Date: 2022-12-19 08:33 pm (UTC)Strangely more prophetic was his other quote about the future:
I think the only thing we can say for certain about recent times and extrapolate to the future is that Western society is in decline, de-industrialization is happening before out eyes with Europe leading the way, we (the USA) are next, the multipolar world will arise and those with abundant resources and the ability to defend them will prolong their industrial ways a little longer and become the dominant force. I consider Con-job19 a desperate attempt by those half-concealed elites to exert totalitarian control, who knows how it will end, too many factors, but suffice to say it was a massive punch to one's own face, will greatly accelerate the decline. So unexpected, in so-called rational times.
What wasn't seen coming is how our "leadership" is acting in a counterproductive, suicidal, downright crazy manner. Which actually if we read aloud history's rhymes turns out was/is actually predictable as well. But oh so unexpected. To know what we're up against you would have to get in the mind of the 'leaders' who have become detached from reality; functionally crazy, if not clinically. I wonder if future historians will conclude that this mess was created by all the lead we spewed into the environment during the industrial age and caused this insanity a la that one Roman collapse theory. In other words, a waste of time and attention.
Do we stand helpless? Of course not, but as the existing order collapses, there needs be ready a new, post industrial world ready to take over, I believe. This requires our intent and attention. Needless to say, also imagination as our generous host reminds us.
My prayer is this: Let our awareness of this current craziness motivate our intent to create something better in the wake of its collapse, but not consume our attention and hobble our intention.
Because, to paraphrase another unintentional comedian: 'This sucker's going down!'
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Date: 2022-12-19 09:25 pm (UTC)Sometimes 'state changes' happen in ecosystems/nature too - at least for a time. Each of our own personal ecosystems will go through one of those changes when we pass away. It's not the total end of the world though.
There are plenty of examples of a new pathogen being introduced into a population and wiping it out in large numbers - it doesn't have to be an extinction level event to be bad. These things happen, sometimes they are very bad for a time, and then the population adapts. But sometimes things do indeed seem to get bad. . .
I am old enough to remember AIDS kicking off as well. Grim Reaper advertisements etc. I also recall fears of AIDS becoming airborne back then. Now, I wonder what could have happened if that had occurred. . .
Make no mistake though, I am not pursuing an agenda to persuade everyone to do anything. You are all grown-ups and can do whatever you like. Hang back and have a quiet life if you like, or try to make everyone listen to you and become true believers in whatever, or anything in between, it makes no difference to me. I'd rather you say something though, because it's more interesting that way.
Other people can put their shoulder to the wheel of history if they like, but if one does, my advice is to be careful not to get accidentally caught up and dragged underneath and have your mangled corpse dragged down through the ages. The wheel doesn't care about the screaming, or all that much about what one finds persuasive either probably, it'll just keep on rolling. It might be wiser to stay out of its way altogether if one can.
In that kind of spirit, I'm just spit-balling ideas.
Empiricism and reason man. We shall see what happens and learn from it. Reality/nature isn't something that tries to convince everyone of this or that either - it just sort of happens and one either works it out and adapts to it, or one doesn't.
Sometimes reality/nature throws up hard situations and forces us to make difficult choices. I am merely speculating about one such potential situation, which on the face of things might be unfolding, but it is not certain that it is or isn't. I have no interest in trying to create a movement about it. I didn't create that situation either - my opprobrium in this space is more or less reserved for those who appear, on balance of probabilities, to have done just that.
If this situation is actually happening, then it probably wouldn't be possible to stop it. One way or another though something would have to happen to restore balance. Left to its own devices, I suspect that means mass death.
The Ninth Mouse
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Date: 2022-12-19 10:00 pm (UTC)https://rumble.com/v20zwu0-study-shows-unvaccinated-are-more-likely-to-get-into-car-accidents-they-thi.html
My goodness, this story has legs!
Ron M
Jeffrey A. Tucker's latest essay
Date: 2022-12-20 01:28 am (UTC)https://brownstone.org/articles/we-are-still-locked-down/
Cetiosaurus
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Date: 2022-12-20 01:53 am (UTC)Erika Confessions...
Date: 2022-12-20 01:54 am (UTC)but i understand. i'd forgotten that i do.
Papa G THANKFULLY cut me off on one of my last posts because i went with my EMOTION without checking myself first.
it's a hazard and why i said to those who're following in this general direction: HAVE A SINCERE APOLOGY ON HAND AT ALL TIMES.
practice little humilities where you can. yes! this from a LEO.
all our bluster is lies. we're pussies, really.
speaking of the kitties and the darkness of life... back to the Dionysian vs Apollonian...
James rolled his eyes that i defer to those terms but they are far more superior to my out-dated but oh-too-embarrassingly recent "you're acting WHITE" or "you're acting BLACK."
those no longer suffice.
new words are Dionysian and Apollonian because ..well, in all of my artistic (theatrical writing etc) training they finally actually make sense NOW because Camille Paglia accidentally foretold the near future in her chapter on "Pagan Beauty." / but where oh where did she GO? she oughta' be here NOW...
but many folded. in academia it's one thing to publish or perish and it's another to show up in and LIVE in real life.
i must forgive.
but i challenge other writers or afraid people to dare to use your first name and get the thrills and chills of being Found Out. then push it...
it's all like calling yourself fat weird or ugly first before anyone can: it's freeing, and the birth of most comics and an eternal swagger.
back to the darkness of Dionysian and Apollonian...
we're returning to the muck and that's why we who come from the muck are up. i didn't have to have insight or powers to see the future... it's in all these history books with different terms.
back to Dionysian... Cliff Osmond, the late character actor who was my acting teacher told us our jobs was to bring people to climax via Dionysian ritual.
i thought it was all metaphorical THEN... now...ha!
but Camille Paglia says the church or The Church made Dionysian ritual cute sentimental saccharin sweet when it is Vida kitty.. Woman whom she attributes to the muck of life and funk and WOW... i see Vida kitty licking... no, TEASING... her own breast milk out of the urethras and anuses of her baby kitties and i see them climb all over and drink her and i see her toss her head back in ecstasy and James said, "it'd have to be that way, wouldn't it?"
meaning biology makes SENSE.
rape now seems like a broken pact to me, wanting to return to THIS promise of surrender and ...
i was almost gang raped and i eventually grew up and had to forgive the older guy who started the whole thing because in hindsight we were animal... and i wasn't careful with my eyes as we young ladies are taught to be... don't mistake my understanding reality for blaming the victim...
i'm saying we're ANIMALS and this covid thing is all cherry on top DENIAL of all things human and nasty and dark...
Camille uses "cthonian" as the darkness the term that women inhabit naturally as the Mothers... the ooze the jelly the ...before lines cold Apollonian lines..
i GET it...
i also get why art on paper or on walls has lost its interest to me ever since i realized James was my Family. i was alone in the world and wanted success praise look at me! and without him it was all empty and just ...distraction... entertainment...
a lie.
i wasn't LIVING what i professed. all talk.
that's also why i challenge you writers or types who think for an eternity, when i say writers don't DO anything, i mean we maintain our ... boundaries our secrets in The Real.
it is no longer enough just to put out a good idea and count on OTHERS to do it. no one has the attention span.
so we lie. this is why i get angry with us artists. we take we can become the biggest narcissists for our causes and what have we changed? we feed back into the same shticks...
so dare to share who you are what you do or just your first name.
because you know and i know that even a pseudonym doesn't "protect" you. you still cover yourself.
why not practice here being more YOU?
i challenge because until we get off The Page, we're all talk and we've no TIME. if you live more in your own skin others will see it and others will FEEL it.
we think we save ourselves save face by maintaining our mystique...
that's so played out. we're all mystique and i argue any writing or art obfuscating anything is also played out and entertainment ...more fluff.
why hide anything anymore?
THE WHOLE WORLD IS HAVING A MULTI-YEAR 3-AM EXISTENTIAL CRISIS.
now's not the time to be coy.
"Vanity's the first to go." that's one of my favorite quotes by Michael J Fox. Vanity's up and long GONE, in case y'all haven't noticed.
anyhow i may have buried my lede but there was no lead, i'm just confessing and throwing thoughts out because i will be building on them and if anyone reads them i'd appreciate be bop riffs. they are not my own. they are to be bent over and taken for a test ride and beaten up in the back alley soundly to see what still limps off.
because James picked up that i was returning BACK to Simon Sheridan's and Violet Cabra's "Devouring Mother" theses:
see, just like Arendt in an interview, Paglia points out that classical Greece and Renaissance Italy as well as Elizabethan England had their biggest cultural (Apollonian) peaks during their most misogynistic and gay moments.
i was reminded of Basul confessing to me when we first met that the gay bars in the castro used to have "NO DYKES!" signs up in the bars. i'd heard about their disgust of lesbians and how they'd not move out of the way for women on castro street and my own elder lesbian mentors would tell me how mean the gay men were to them ...but how the women were there for them as brothers when they started dropping from AIDS...
but my point is...
they kinda had a point in being misogynists and fearing Woman, right? they WERE we ARE being taken over by this devouring mother..
back to Vida kitty has this way of punishing her kitties, the two most alpha ones, she does that thing where she puts her teeth around his neck and kicks him with her feet ...like PREY.
it's Medea ... it's DIONYSIAN... no morals, no western justice or civilized assumptions... just the lesson: I BROUGHT YOU INTO THIS WORLD AND I CAN TAKE YOU OUT: SO BEHAVE.
i've no answers no criticisms... i'm just trying to understand THE REAL UNSPOKEN DARKNESSES BEST I CAN... within so that i may understand them without...
i see grown up adult sex in all this kitty action and i'm...well, i'm HOME.
i'm not a freak after all.
i've said before or i've wondered aloud if women don't have sex too OLD now. i've got it wrong. sex is straight up CREEPY now.
when i saw that Brinton character, that's what is pitched as a healthy approach to sex around here. if you saw that chicago teacher proudly saying how they pass butt plugs to students, THAT IS UNSEXY. that is sex in gay san francisco and WHY I WAS SCARED STRAIGHT.
i found men to be like a whole new discovery once i left women and returned to them without my former inherited borrowed straight girl expectations. men were a revelation and i loved the DIFFERENCES...
i'm all over...
point is that even when we first got Vida and she was smaller, she had this ...GROWN UP maturity to being pet and scratched. as a woman i recognized the change IN MYSELF and how i see how awkward women and especially YOUNG women are today.
they act savvy and grown up because they've all been suckled on internet porn, but they are ...so many women move as if they've never had an orgasm.
is it necessary? no. but it is... REPRESSED.
and that's why we're out of balance.
why are we feral up? because we've been WIPED ON by their repressions. we are the ones they feel up and fxck up because they KNOW no one will believe us.
so we KNOW how to hold two truths in our hearts at one time. we see them at 3am and that's where the WORLD is now.
i maintain we don't have the LUXURY of privacy and hiding what we know and know HOW TO DO.
i am trying to appeal not to your ego but switch your self-hate and shame and do what you can do at 3am in Real Life.
it is also thrilling to be yourself more and more. i hope to implant or inspire the dare to forever expose yourself more and more.
i remember Cliff Osmond would tell us the most interesting feature of a human being is their FACE.
and Apollonian (mechanistic) thinking has ruined the face with surgeries and we don't know what real faces and EMOTIONS even look like.
i'm riffing because this is how i state my artistic goals and develop criteria and traps to avoid ego traps of performance/art vanities. that is cheap and a waste of time i want to avoid with the time i've left here as this current me.
none of the boys/men who've attacked me have done it because they're monsters or toxic masculinity incarnate. we were finding ourselves and i'm actually GLAD for the teachings because they just lost their heads and i didn't know how to be ME and wherever i lived and the current customs.
i break people open at 3PM not 3AM and i'm fine with living with the consequences because it saves me time.
so when i say actually "do" something writers! i don't mean to "tell" you anything but i'm asking begging for your humanity. THAT is "doing" now.
just daring to publicly say, "hi, my name is X and i'm mad as hell and i'm not going to take it anymore" is like swimming naked and free in a chilly river on a sunny day.
i'm saying it's actually warm in here. warmer than out there.
(smile)
x
erika
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Date: 2022-12-20 02:52 am (UTC)Re: What's happening in China?
Date: 2022-12-20 03:05 am (UTC)On the other hand, consider how China has raised hundreds of millions of its citizens out of poverty in the last few decades and the West is now sending its citizens in the opposite direction.
Also consider how "Chinese censorship" is intended to counter the deliberately created social unrest that's a key component of colour revolutions that the West portrays as "spontaneous uprisings by oppressed peoples", but are actually carefully choreographed operations.
Here's an account of the recent attempt at a colour revolution in Iran: http://thesaker.is/the-islamic-republic-of-iran-the-us-zionists-uk-unholy-trinity-and-domains-of-grand-illusions/
We do know that China experiences extreme pollution in some of its heavily industrialised areas, which is no surprise given the West outsourced its industrial production and associated pollution there.
Jon Rappoport writes often about how environmental toxins and the sicknesses they cause are often hidden as viruses and pandemics. Here's an example: https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2022/12/14/the-bio-weapon-theory-of-the-china-epidemic-2/
He also writes about the plight of Africa, where the so-called plagues there are a result of deprivation, lack of sanitation, a toxic environment e.g. mining, Big Pharma drug trials on the population (who fancies an expired vaccine?) etc.
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Date: 2022-12-20 03:11 am (UTC)Re: open thread archive .epub, txt, html / the whole open thread and comments
Date: 2022-12-20 03:18 am (UTC)Re: Predictions for 2023 and wider thoughts
Date: 2022-12-20 04:35 am (UTC)I'm surprised that the comments so far have not mentioned the potential for nuclear war. I know some people think it is all kabuki theatre and that they are on the same side but I'm still not convinced of that. I think we are looking at a disaster given the insane actions of the "leadership" in the US, the UK and the EU. Putin must know by now that these nutters will not be reasoned with and that all the evidence suggests that they do not give a flying [] about the people they rule over. They want us dead anyway as we are no longer needed according to the WEF. Very soon, Putin will have to act, and act decisively, to respond to the provocations of the West or else risk losing his position (and possibly his life!). Politics everywhere is a blood sport but especially so in Russia. This fact alone exponentially increases the likelihood of mistakes and disastrous consequences for the whole world.
I noted a few weeks ago that those who rule the West no longer care what we, the people, think or desire. They know what they have done and what the consequences will be. The die has been cast and now their entire focus is on the implementation of their insane plans. They have nothing left to lose. The economic system was already dead and their lockdowns and sanctions have put the final stake through its heart. Their plans for a central bank digital currency and the Universal Basic Income are all part of their "new economy". They have jabbed over 5 billion people with only the Gods know what and the deaths and injuries continue to climb. Klaus Schwab told us all that the coming 4th Industrial Revolution will not be about changing processes but rather "changing you". I think we all suspect what that means but it is done now. I think they will forge ahead with the "Smart City" that will imprison us all in a digital concentration camp - how else to ensure the masses don't rise up?
They will follow this up with constant attempts to lock us down and make us believe in a "climate emergency" or another deadly "pandemic" and, unfortunately, there will be enough simpletons amongst the population who will simply comply.
Will they ultimately succeed? I don't know but it is not looking good. If there is enough death and economic dislocation and mental and physical exhaustion, then, yes, I think they just might pull this off. You must realize that this is all being done to return us to feudalism - which came about originally as a response to the choas and constant plagues that accompanied the collapse of the Western Roman Empire. Part Two of this story is what we are living through now.
They have nothing to lose by betting it all. Just look at the line-up for the 2023 Davos meeting. Do you see even an ounce of contrition given the guest list and the topics up for discussion?
https://dossier.substack.com/p/exclusive-davos-2023-will-feature
My take.
Liam in Toronto
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Date: 2022-12-20 05:24 am (UTC)Tim Robbins (in discussion with Russell Brand) on the horrendous demonisation of those who questioned the response to Covid.
Re: RECORD SCRATCH RADIO WENT FILLMORE...
Date: 2022-12-20 05:29 am (UTC)it's a conversation that collectively, we will have to have, one of these days.
you guys jump-started it, and for that you deserve applause. well done!
keep it up.
Re: What's happening in China?
Date: 2022-12-20 06:49 am (UTC)Turns out they were genuine and people were angry, but every protest had a legitimate specific issue at the back
and not seldom the protest end with politicians or businessmen arrested and sometimes even executed things solved in the end
Now if I am thinking of 4 years of daily protests by the yellow vests in France
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Date: 2022-12-20 06:52 am (UTC)