Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 70
Dec. 6th, 2022 01:58 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ecosophia
As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
Re: The Club of Raving Lunatics
Date: 2022-12-10 09:21 pm (UTC)Listening to them chant "correlation does not imply causality" like a mantra makes it seem like they're trying to condition us to believe "correlation disproves causality". Wake up!
--Lunar Apprentice
Re: The Club of Raving Lunatics
Date: 2022-12-11 09:43 am (UTC)The many possible interactions of correlation and non-correlation, causation and non-causation, and the need to pursue (and rule out or fail to rule out) ALL of them is lost on many people who can recite the mantra.
For example, it is also true (especially when looking for small effects in large samples) that "non-correlation does not prove non-causation". This is especially worth understanding when reading papers that are making a claim based entirely on the presence or absence of "statistical significance" (the Evidence Based Medicine way of talking about correlations and whether they can be assumed to be causative or not).
Re: The Club of Raving Lunatics
Date: 2022-12-13 12:02 am (UTC)If a strong correlation shows up unexpectedly, causal or not, there is something missing in your model, cocked up in your calculations, or holey in your hypothesis.
If you don’t seek the cause of the correlation you are not doing science, you are practicing faith rites or idol worship. Scientists do NOT beg the question; they question everything. Especially, themselves.