Magic Monday
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The image? I'm still tracing my lineage in photographs. At some point after the death of Bishop Shaw, a question arose about the legitimacy of the apostolic succession of the Universal Gnostic Church. John Gilbert arranged to settle the matter in the traditional way by receiving sub conditione consecration from Archbishop Herman Adrian Spruit of the Church of Antioch; that's Archbishop Spruit in the photo. Sub conditione? That's the technical term for a second consecration given to a bishop in case the original one didn't have valid lineage, and Spruit was the man to give it.
He was born in 1911 and started out his religious career as a Methodist minister, but he became convinced that a more sacramental and less dogmatic approach to Christianity was needed, and so he joined the Independent Sacramental Movement and was consecrated as an independent bishop. At that time there were sixteen different lineages of apostolic succession outside the control of the established churches, and squabbles between independent bishops about the validity of the different lines were common. Spruit ended that in an exceptionally graceful way. He arranged to be consecrated sub conditione in all of the lineages, and then conferred the same consecration on any bishop or qualified candidate for the episcopacy who requested it. These days practically every bishop in the Independent Sacramental Movement has all sixteen lines -- yes, including me -- and the squabbles are over. Bishop Spruit's Catholic Apostolic Church of Antioch remains an active independent church, and so do many of the other independent churches who received his blessing.
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Date: 2022-11-28 06:24 pm (UTC)(no subject)
From:H Spencer Lewis
Date: 2022-11-28 06:38 pm (UTC)An open question: I was recently gifted a copy of Self Mastery and Fate with the Cycles of Life by H Spencer Lewis. I have yet to perform my experiments with it, but I was curious to hear about other people's experiences with the system presented in the book.
Thanks,
LUke
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From:Eros & Psyche, DA, Apollo & Hyacinth
Date: 2022-11-28 06:41 pm (UTC)In it he recounts the myth beautifully and then explains how to think about it in terms of deciphering its symbolism and using it for a path of spiritual development.
I really appreciate a work like this because otherwise I would have been confused about why Psyche was being bullied so much and I wouldn't have gotten as much out of it.
This reminds me of the introductory notes to each branch in the Dolmen Arch course. For example in the third branch, I never would have thought to consider Cigfa, Rhiannon, Pryderi and Manawyddan as four elemental facets of the same person.
I think this is part of what is going on with literacy these days, that even among people like myself who read a lot of fiction (~50 books or more per year) it doesn't necessarily mean we are equipped to get the most out of myths.
I am wondering if there is a book form of the Dolmen Arch explanations of the Mabinogion, or if it's just the introductions to each reading passage in the DA book.
I am also wondering if you think the story of Apollo and Hyacinth has the makings of a similar Gwynfydd-style transformation like with Eros and Psyche. I am very drawn to Hyacinth's story because if I had known there was a god out there (Apollo) that might love me, as a queer kid growing up in a conservative area, that would have really helped me. Thank you.
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Date: 2022-11-28 06:44 pm (UTC)(no subject)
From:Kitten
Date: 2022-11-28 06:48 pm (UTC)We have 3.5 cats already - the .5 is the truly feral guy who comes for breakfast every day, and none of the other 3 are impressed by another cat showing up. I think she's swell, but I'm the attentive cat servant around here and they already take a lot of my time; so it's best if she can live with someone who can lavish attention on her without such competition.
Right now we're asking people we personally know if they want a cat. Later, if that doesn't pan out, I may ask again for prayer-help if I have to send her along through a shelter/rescue organization. I'm not sending her in that direction quite yet because I know they tend to neuter extremely young, which causes health problems later in life for some cats, and I'm willing to drag my feet a little bit.
Thanks!
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Date: 2022-11-28 07:37 pm (UTC)https://www.kitv.com/news/local/lava-flows-spotted-from-the-air-as-eruption-exits-summit-of-mauna-loa-update/article_8d3f213b-3c49-5d94-88a9-acded86df6f7.html
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From:(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-28 08:03 pm (UTC)I have just come to the end of a short but extremely intense romance. I have commented here a couple of times over the past month about some of the weird spiritual occurrences that have plagued it. I am reeling and have some more questions.
My subconscious mind was trying to warn me a lot of the time. A couple of nights I felt the strong urge to flee her place and one time had the thought 'get out of here' very strongly. She was very much to my taste in many ways, had character traits I valued, was not in the least bit threatening or suspect and was a devoted parent. My heart and will were set on seeing how things went, and so I did, ignoring the warnings.
I understand that poltergeist activity can sometimes be related to a very disturbed subconscious mind, rather than a spirit. I am trying to disambiguate the range of phenomena.
1. I am a CGD bard, have awakened kundalini and have had some incontrovertible HGA/higher self experiences. Do you think it is plausible that a subconscious awakened and energized by all of that could do things like lock doors, shake objects right in front of me, move stuff around etc.?
2. The most parsimonious explanation suggests that the poltergeist stuff and some experiences of being touched and woken up are linked and perhaps have the same source, but if it is me causing it, why would it feel so much like a separate being? If it was me, why wouldn't I just wake up normally?
3. I used magic to meet this person. Surely if this relationship was not something I should have been doing, my HGA/higher self could/would have diverted me from doing either the magic or intervened in a myriad of ways to prevent it? I am fully aware that HGA/higher self does not equal the entirety of the unconscious mind, and it may have allowed or created the experience and dragged some unconscious parts of me kicking and screaming with it.
4. It turned out that we both have similar heavy trauma, and her disclosure of that deeply affected me. It has ripped old memories open and thoroughly disturbed me. I will be turning all this into a positive healing experience, however, do you think that my unconscious may have been trying to protect me/itself from having the trauma stirred up?
5. The whole experience suggests great disharmony in my being. Do you have any suggestions about how to go about resolving it?
I am sure I have most of the tools to work through this, and I will eventually, but I am very stirred up and would greatly appreciate your input.
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From: (Anonymous) - Date: 2022-11-28 10:26 pm (UTC) - ExpandTarot card 5 of pentacles reversed in a 3 card reading
Date: 2022-11-28 09:25 pm (UTC)Re: Tarot card 5 of pentacles reversed in a 3 card reading
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From:Complimenting Paths
Date: 2022-11-28 10:03 pm (UTC)I have a question relating to choice of spiritual path. I have followed the warrior path most of my life and grew accustomed to this path. When I discovered Druidry I set aside my intention to stay on this warrior path and quite willingly left much of it behind. That said after 3 years the old path is pulling me again and encouraging me to fight. I am considering it, and found a recent meditation on Geburah to resonate very strongly. I think perhaps best outcome is to attempt to bring both archetypes together into one path.
Is this dangerous? Can a relatively mundane human being incorporate two powerful archetypes into their personality?
In your view must one archetype be subservient to the other to balance?
Thanks!
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From:(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-28 10:21 pm (UTC)I am thinking of incorporating the Nine - the entities allegedly contacted by Andrija Puharich and others - into a fiction project. Do you see any potential danger in this?
Thanks in advance.
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Date: 2022-11-28 10:50 pm (UTC)(no subject)
From:Cloaking One's Energy
Date: 2022-11-28 11:03 pm (UTC)I have been told several times now by different people that I project my energy (unconsciously) quite a distance from me and a sensitive person is able to pick it up long before I get close. Sometimes this has been an advantage because it has spooked bad people with ill-intent and allowed me time to deal with a situation. Normally, however, I think I would be better served to learn how to cloak it under most circumstances. What are some practices or techniques I could use to learn to do this more effectively?
As always, thank you for hosting this forum and providing us with such knowledge on a weekly basis.
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From:Blessing Walk
Date: 2022-11-28 11:13 pm (UTC)A couple days into the Blessing Walk, I was in a busy grocery store. No way could I mentally say "May you be blessed." to every individual in such a crowd. What I noticed was that in glancing at people, some seemed to be "open", if you will, and some "closed" to the prospect of being recipients of this. Babies and children? Always open. Little magnets, in fact.
So I wonder, was this a function of my personality/subconscious choosing attractive vs. unattractive in this situation, or is there something broader at work?
Thanks as always!
OtterGirl
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From:(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-28 11:13 pm (UTC)A few weeks ago I asked about working the land with iron tools, due to their etheric properties. Would galvanised steel (steel covered with a layer of zinc) have the same effects, or would they be less disruptive?
Is the DA work compatible with the mysteries of merlin?
And lastly, regarding the modern order of the essenes would it be alright if I translated the material to Portuguese? I want my mother to have access, and she doesn't speak English.
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From:(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-29 12:01 am (UTC)Two questions for you.
Are there questions that are either to complex or trivial for divination? So as “should I get a haircut” or maybe “is this the person I should marry”?
How safe would you consider dabbling into astrological magic is for a educated beginner? So as planetary charity. I was relieved to hear Warnock say that missing a word or two in an Orphic Hymn doesn’t cause a Zeus bolt to come down, although what about missing a charity day? What if I get abducted by aliens again and can’t keep my promise!
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From: (Anonymous) - Date: 2022-11-29 03:31 am (UTC) - Expand(no subject)
From:HGD Update
Date: 2022-11-29 12:03 am (UTC)How far can you take Self-Initiation btw? I will of course be divining and meditating on it, but now that I've done 9 sets of the Transformation, I have half a mind to try Conjuration and Consecration, and/or keep at the Transformation.
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Date: 2022-11-29 12:11 am (UTC)(no subject)
From: (Anonymous) - Date: 2022-11-29 04:06 am (UTC) - ExpandQuestion about divination
Date: 2022-11-29 12:35 am (UTC)Several weeks ago, I posted a message on Magic Monday in which I mentioned my intention to start exploring the Coelbren oracle. Next thing I did was design a set of Coelbren cards on my computer and go to my local copy shop to have them printed on solid paper.
I've used the Coelbren Oracle almost daily since then, often several times a day. And I must say that so far I'm not disappointed. Having procured an online copy of the Dosparth Edeyrn Dafod Aur, I'm still exploring different ways of understanding the Coelbren, and as you anticipated in your book on the Coelbren Alphabet I've started developing a personal sense of the Letters.
The reason for my writing this message is the following: even though I often get clear readings, i.e. readings in which the significance of the individual Letters selected is astonishingly obvious and unambiguous, just as often those readings turn out not to be borne out in the facts. To put it in more precise terms, I note that when selecting the cards my hand tends to be drawn to Letters that reflect my own "mental" world (i.e. my desires and my fears) rather than the situation as it really is. To be sure, it is always enlightening to take note of my own projections, but obviously the point of a Coelbren reading is not merely to serve as some kind of medium for a "projective test".
Is there a way to deal with this problem ?
Thank you in advance for your answer.
R.
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From:Pepe
Date: 2022-11-29 12:54 am (UTC)Re: Pepe
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Date: 2022-11-29 02:45 am (UTC)Also any suggestions on a book for planetary charity?
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