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elephant in the roomAs we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.  

Re: Long term sickness

Date: 2022-11-17 11:06 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] boccaccio
Longitudinal cohort studies are indeed very much needed, but they are not there. It's a disgrace that governments keep the necessary data for it a secret.

Within countries I too see indications that excess mortality got a bump in tandem with the rollout of the vaxxines. I would normally consider that an indication for causation, but when I compare countries I get a very different picture that I can't explane.

For example: In the EU Portugal is the highest vaxxed country and Bulgaria is the lowest vaxxed. Yet the cumulative excess mortality of Bulgaria is much higher than Portugal. The fact that Bulgaria is poorer than Portugal (lesser healthcare system) is possibly not an explanation because in Februari 2021, when the vaxx rollout started, both countries had the same cumulative excess mortality. So since the vaxxination highly vaxxed Portugal did significantly better than low vaxxed Bulgaria.
(See https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-01..latest&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Excess+mortality+%28%25%29&Interval=Cumulative&Relative+to+Population=true&Color+by+test+positivity=false&country=BGR~PRT)

In the Caribian a comparison of Haity (virtually no vax), Dominican Republic (medium), Puerto Rico (high vax??) and USA (high vax) show that Dominican Republic did better than Puerto Rico, Puerto Rico did better than Haiti, and Haiti did much better than the US. This yields a confusing picture with no clear pattern. Something happened with the start of the vaxx rollout but it could be that it had more impact on the relatively unvaxxed nations although the relatively high vaxxed nations also have persistent excess mortality since that moment. What exactly is going on is a mystery to me.
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