Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 67
Nov. 15th, 2022 01:05 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
Re: Long term sickness
Date: 2022-11-17 11:06 pm (UTC)Within countries I too see indications that excess mortality got a bump in tandem with the rollout of the vaxxines. I would normally consider that an indication for causation, but when I compare countries I get a very different picture that I can't explane.
For example: In the EU Portugal is the highest vaxxed country and Bulgaria is the lowest vaxxed. Yet the cumulative excess mortality of Bulgaria is much higher than Portugal. The fact that Bulgaria is poorer than Portugal (lesser healthcare system) is possibly not an explanation because in Februari 2021, when the vaxx rollout started, both countries had the same cumulative excess mortality. So since the vaxxination highly vaxxed Portugal did significantly better than low vaxxed Bulgaria.
(See https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-01..latest&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Excess+mortality+%28%25%29&Interval=Cumulative&Relative+to+Population=true&Color+by+test+positivity=false&country=BGR~PRT)
In the Caribian a comparison of Haity (virtually no vax), Dominican Republic (medium), Puerto Rico (high vax??) and USA (high vax) show that Dominican Republic did better than Puerto Rico, Puerto Rico did better than Haiti, and Haiti did much better than the US. This yields a confusing picture with no clear pattern. Something happened with the start of the vaxx rollout but it could be that it had more impact on the relatively unvaxxed nations although the relatively high vaxxed nations also have persistent excess mortality since that moment. What exactly is going on is a mystery to me.