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if onlyAs we move further into the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.    

Re: Faustian cancer

Date: 2022-09-01 06:24 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] team10tim
"what if some of that gets into cell nuclei"

I'm afraid the is no 'if' about it.

https://arkmedic.substack.com/p/welcome-to-gilead

The nano lipid particles used to deliver the mRNA for the vaccines were developed for gene therapy. The RNA does get into the nucleus.

Re: Faustian cancer

Date: 2022-09-01 03:43 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] dendroica
Strictly speaking, the cited paper found spike protein in the nucleus, not mRNA. No proteins are produced in the nucleus and mRNA is not admitted to the nucleus except under certain very rare circumstances.

Apparently the spike protein can be imported into the cell nucleus, which is surprising given that it lacks a "nuclear import sequence" that is found on most proteins that end up there. That said this was a highly contrived environment of cells in culture with the various viral proteins being produced at extremely high rates. I remain skeptical that this is actually the mechanism by which the vaccines cause cancer, but it is definitely a possibility.

Re: Faustian cancer

Date: 2022-09-01 08:47 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] team10tim
You are right, strictly speaking the link shows the spike in the nucleus.

It would take more links, and it would only imply that the shots alter DNA, not prove.

But there was a study with human liver cells that showed reverse transcription, the body keeps producing the spikes after the vax for much longer than we were told, and the mRNA was apparently degrading in the vials before injection by around 25% (unstable mRNA that keeps producing spikes for much longer than expected). Lastly a recent study with mice and the heritability of immunity, the study claims epigenetics 4 generations later*, but it makes more sense if it is getting into the overies before conception. Which all imply that the mRNA from the shots end up as DNA in the nucleus.

Again, it does not prove it, but I am unaware of anyone doing the tests on the vaccinated to see whether or not this happened. It would be very interesting to do genetic sequencing of biopsies from livers of those died suddenly athletes.

*https://arkmedic.substack.com/p/who-owns-who
Edited (Edit to add heritability) Date: 2022-09-01 10:19 pm (UTC)

Re: Faustian cancer

Date: 2022-09-01 05:47 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
It's a short step from here to "The RNA alters the DNA in those cells." Which was a fear I remember seeing expressed quite a bit earlier....
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