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memeAs we move into the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

(Yes, the change in image theme reflects that; the earlier sequence served its purpose. With a nod to El Gato Malo (1, 2, 3), the posts to come will be headed by thoughtful memes relevant to the Covid mess. Yes, I'll take nominations -- you can post links in the thread.)

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion. 

Re: Reconciliation?

Date: 2022-08-10 01:44 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] methylethyl
For what it's worth, I've been through similar, albeit to a lesser degree. I'm now an experienced liturgical chanter because my old church needed one. The last time we moved, we had the option of maybe three different parishes, two of which *needed* me as a chanter, and the third... is the church we ended up at. Of the three, it's the one with a good, cohesive church community, regular services (not just liturgy on Sunday), and lots of kids. And I have kids-- bringing them up *in the life of the church* is more important than me being a chanter. I really miss being a chanter. Sigh. Sometimes I just have to realize that I can't have everything I want at the same time/place, and prioritize what's most important. If God wills it, I'll get to be a chanter again. But right now isn't the time. It's a lesson in humility.

Re: Reconciliation?

Date: 2022-08-10 08:28 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Yes, this is very similar to my position. There are a few more issues—the Orthodox synagogue requires my husband do things on my behalf that I could do for myself in the other congregation. Unfortunately he is not a Jew under their definition (that’s totally ok by them, which would not be true in all Orthodox communities) but it means that he cannot perform these religious acts either!

I will probably end up making a similar decision as you, too, and just accept much of my practice will be private.

Incidentally, I didn’t know about Eastern Orthodox liturgical chanting—it sounds very similar to Jewish leyning. Is the text chanted in Greek, or English?

Re: Reconciliation?

Date: 2022-08-11 03:10 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
EO chant is derived from the Jewish tradition, IIRC-- particularly the type used in Greek and Arab churches. Russians have their own thing going, and it sounds more like European choral music.

The language used depends on the parish. I have done it in both Greek and in English, but since I don't speak Greek that's more difficult.

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