Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 53

[ecosophia]

As we move into the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

(Yes, the change in image theme reflects that; the earlier sequence served its purpose. With a nod to El Gato Malo (1, 2, 3), the posts to come will be headed by thoughtful memes relevant to the Covid mess. Yes, I'll take nominations -- you can post links in the thread.)

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion. 

Comments

Well, this just feels SUPER weird

[(Anonymous)]

Well, this just feels SUPER weird. Updated covid guidance from the cdc, as reported by npr.

https://twitter.com/chrismartenson/status/1557831906246500353

- Those exposed to the virus are no longer required to quarantine
- unvaxxed now have the same guidance as vaxxed
- students can stay in class after being exposed to covid
- it's no longer recommended to screen those without symptoms

(basically, forget all that other junk we told you for 2 and a half years)

SO, I guess election season ramps up NOW. Is this the official declaration covid is over? Can we assume the next next thing imminent, or is it a break now, until the second week of November?

Murmuration

Re: Well, this just feels SUPER weird

[(Anonymous)]

The health advice and covid rules etc aren't just been about 'science' - in many cases they seem to have little to do with the virus and how it behaves, or science, etc at all.

I ask myself how are these rules, or removal of same, convenient for the experts and elites etc?

Perhaps this is a sign of other issues, like the economy tanking?

Maybe it's not convenient anymore for people to be staying at home due to quarantine, or to look after their kids, or screen and isolate people etc if that results in taking large numbers of people out of thje workforce. Perhaps the authorities and elites think it's time for them all to go back 'down pit' instead for the sake of the economy?

The difference anything they decide makes to the pandemic might not be the deciding factor - it hasn't been for various things before (masks etc).

NZ Graves anecdata

[(Anonymous)]

NZ Graves anecdata (92 new ones in a small town)

https://twitter.com/roller2426/status/1557676354703081472

Re: NZ Graves anecdata

[(Anonymous)]

How small is the town? (5000 people for instance?).

A Vision / Dream

[(Anonymous)]

I just happened on this Substack essay, a very personal essay, and from comments I have read here on this forum, I thought it might be of interest to many of you. It certainly was to me (I could relate to a lot of it).

Also, the author mentions a vision/ dream that I also thoght many here might appreciate reading about.

https://shieldmaiden.substack.com/p/weathering-the-storm

Re: A Vision / Dream

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you! This was an excellent piece. I appreciate you sharing it.

[(Anonymous)]

I found the source of the excellent veterinary booklet. https://pin.it/2Irfu8p
It's the one with the white cat of Persian persuasion.

Testing in Japan

[weilong]

There is a new procedure for 'rona testing in this little corner of Japan. I'm not sure if it applies to the whole country.

Basically, testing is now for people with symptoms. You can order an antigen test kit online and have it mailed to you. If it shows positive, you send back a picture of it. At that point, regardless of the test result, and unless you have serious previous health problems, you are left to your own devices as far as treating your cold. They will tell you not to go out in public for a certain number of days (probably longer if the test was positive), but you are on the honor system for that.

I suppose for those people who are worried because of existing health problems, this might be convenient. As a more or less healthy person, though, I am struggling to imagine why I would bother with this process. I can stay home and rest until I feel better all by myself; and going through this process doesn't seem to have any benefits for me. I think some people might get paid leave from work or some other benefit from having an official covid diagnosis.

Re: Testing in Japan

[tritumi]

Interesting Weilong as we haven't heard anything similar here in Tokyo. Just the wailing of ambulance sirens many times a day. Mask wearing is near universal and I get more than a few looks keeping mine in my pocket or hand. I think the authorities are prepping the campaign for the Omnicron jab released, however. With 'flu vaccine time coming on line shortly as well, I wonder what the public tolerance for jabbing is now.

The CDC move has made NHK news now. But Japan was, as of last week from John Campbell, showing the largest infection rate, though the lowest death rate in the world.

It is OBON season, of course, this week so the maximum relaxation is expected by all. Stay safe in the typhoon.

Huh. Two on a theme

[(Anonymous)]

Huh. Two on a theme. First, a piece by the Bad Cat.

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/whither-wither-the-republic

The second piece replaces a single critical section of text with another, throughout. This one really cracked my gourd. I mean, it really hit home, in a way it hasn't before. It's just so...duh!

https://2ndsmartestguyintheworld.substack.com/p/revised-text-of-the-declaration-of

Thomas Paine was a theme early on in these posts. I may have to break out all of my books containing writings such as this, and give them another perusing.

[(Anonymous)]

News from Castro Jr's Canada:

https://tnc.news/2022/08/10/digital-identity-program/

Castro Jr. and his minions are about to introduce a "Digital Identity Program" - for your convenience, of course.

The build of the "Digital Concentration Camp" continues unabated here in the Great White North (and, truth be told, probably everywhere else).

Liam in Toronto

[(Anonymous)]

Saw the same sort of news out of Australia a day ago. Goonies man. Goonies.

Things could be worse than we are getting through

[(Anonymous)]

Via VigilantFox 🦊 on telegram:

Fox News Stuns World With Unfiltered Truth: "This Vaccine Is the Most Dangerous Vaccine Ever Created"

Steve Kirsch: "Hundreds of thousands of Americans have been killed by this vaccine, and millions have been injured."

"Wayne Root. He had a wedding eight months ago ... And he found that of the 100 people that were vaccinated. He had 26 people who were seriously injured, and he had 7 people who died. And in the unvaccinated group, he had 0 and 0. That it's statistically impossible if the vaccines are safe."

Video via t.me/realKarliBonne/112184

Vixen on Fox reported by VigilantFox 🦊

It's an Omen

[(Anonymous)]

So this is kind of weird.

Literally every day for the past 2 weeks, my music player has selected the 2009 song "Omen" by The Prodigy at least once, sometimes 2 or 3 times (despite an option to 'skip track repeats' being ticked, but it always ignores that anyway).

I'm listening to maybe 3 or 4 hours of music a day, and there are apparently 3190 songs in the player. Each is maybe an average of 4 minutes long, so that's around 60 songs per day (240 minutes ÷ 4). But let's call it 100 for the ones that I skip. So that's in theory a 1 in 32 chance (3190 ÷ 100) of that song coming up each day. And then to repeat those odds every day (32 × 14) is a 1 in 448 chance. Seems kind of unlikely, right?

The lyrics are as follows:

It's an omen!
It's an omen!
It's an omen!
Now!
The writing's on the wall
It won't go away
It's an omen!
You just run on automation
Now!
The writing's on the wall
It won't go away
It's an omen!
It's an omen!
It's an omen!
Now!
The writing's on the wall
It won't go away
It's an omen!
You just run on automation
Now!
Now!
Now!
The writing's on the wall
It won't go away
It's an omen!
You just run on automation
Now!
The writing's on the wall
It won't go away
It's an omen!
It's an omen!
It's an omen!
Now!
It's an omen!
Now!
Now!
Now!
Now!


... Do you think this might be an omen?

Re: It's an Omen

[(Anonymous)]

There were a lot of omens discussed on this thread mayb if I have time sometime, I will make a compilation of them,

Cult extraction

[(Anonymous)]

There is a lot of literature out there about deprogramming people from cults.

Ironically a lot of it just sounds like advice on how to be a good friend.

https://www.wikihow.com/Deprogram-a-Religious-Cult-Member

Re: Cult extraction

[jdecandia]

I truly like how this frames the situation and also points in the direction of tried and true practices

[(Anonymous)]

Things go awry and in strange places...

A Romanian mason speaks against Klaus Dorsal Swab

https://t.me/DanDiaconu/1530?comment=91323

[scotlyn]

Speaking of memes and cartoons, I envision one that I cannot draw for myself. When I was young we played a game called "Simon Says"... "Simon" got to stand in front of everyone, pick a person at random and give instrutions. "Simon Says take two steps forwards" "Simon Says take a baby step" "Take one step sideways". IF the instruction contained "Simon Says" you had to follow it. If the instruction did not contain "Simon Says" and you followed it anyway, you would be penalised. The trick was to get close enough to Simon to tap Simon and take over. All of the instructions related to directions and step numbers, and obviously gave Simon a good deal of arbritrary power over who would win. Still, we played it with enthusiasm from time to time.

Anyway, I envision a cartoon of children playing the game only it is "Science Says".

Of course, it may be that the references would be too ancient for many to get.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, the reference is not very ancient for me, I'm not so old. I know "Simon Says" since my childhood when I was studying English (Oh I was a mediocre student then). It could be a good new version that of "Science says" being played by children.

-A Spaniard.

THOSE AREN'T PILLOWS!

[(Anonymous)]

i sound like Hearthspirit on broken "shuffle" i know... but i earlier just read !EL GATO!s piece with the Gadsden Kitty and one of my images to paint in fluorescents will have a coiled snake now and say:

"THOSE AREN'T PILLOWS!"

--

i have been cracking myself up with that ALL MORNING and James thinks it's silly. makes no sense. i said, "IT TOTALLY DOES MORE THAN YOU KNOW! I KEEP GIGGLING THEREFORE IT IS 'IN'!"

to be fair, 'those aren't pillows!' is one of the funniest lines that pairs up well with EVERYTHING and ANYTHING... red meat fish PORK and state propaganda.


but it's MY shortcut to My Generation AND Gadsden Flag Agreements DON'T TREAD ON ME.

this is gonna be fun.

i hope to inspire OTHERS HERE to do your own self-outing as i apparently continue to do.

(this forum kinda makes me think it's all over 'cept for folding up the chairs but i'm in san francisco... this is really what's behind the wardrobe)

THOSE AREN'T PILLOWS.

perfect. i wasn't wanting to copy Lichtenstein's comics as art but i WAS.

i can drive 55.

if i hadn't alienated absolutely everyone in hollytown and burned bridges and blown up my ships i'd write "SO I WAS STANDING IN LINE..." as a comeback vehicle for Judd Nelson that'd make Vinnie Barbarino's comeback with Tarantino seem like the fluff it was. genius fluff but fluff nonetheless.

that's why we're like this/in this mess.

and Kamala Lopez. she's not talking to me, neither. talk about a surreal exit. i see why everyone pretends nothing happened.

her mother saw me perform and hated me because she knew i'd only been playing possum.

talk about devouring mother!

point is Kamala Lopez herself told me people in hollytown hate each other then love each other again as soon as there's a project.

i'd wanna paint Kamala's hair grey and blonde and have HER be that Andrea Darpa girl i think was her name in line at the hospital. Kamala would KILL it.

Brad Wyman did that reese witherspoon piece... what was it called? Matt Bright wrote it... i love Matt Bright like i love Stephen Sayadian...both brilliant and brilliantly perverted to the point of sweet innocence NO LIE.

(you'd have to be over fifty to even hope to UNDERSTAND that above paragraph... sorry... get lost down alleyways and fall in love with your own animal terror)

FREEWAY!

that's the movie. Brad Wyman should produce SO THERE I WAS STANDING IN LINE and Judd Nelson should give that death stare to all of San Francisco.

but alas... they're probably all vaxxed and tucked in. it's hollywood where everyone craves being liked because eating depends upon it.

nah. no dice. that's part of what got us all into this mess.

new town. new swagger. new defiance.

the Gadsden Flag and the warning that THOSE AREN'T PILLOWS!

it WORKS. it may be silly but it says so much more once you actually think on it. but to explain would KILL.

wait. wait til you see.


--erika the insane

Crazy people masked (and 'sane' people too)

[(Anonymous)]

In my town there's a NGO for mentally handicapped people. When you are going to visit somebody, the first you see next to the door is a sign in which they tell you: "This is a social-health center, so for law the mask use is compulsory".
The NGO center isn't a hospital for being compulsory masking, according a very free interpretation of the masks laws in my country, they equals to a clinic/hospital.
I have to say that this NGO is, -oh surprise-quite woke in his social pshilosophy, ahem.
When you get in across the main door, you are required to wear a mask, and the mentally handicapped people too. Sometimes a crazy person, pardon, an user, due to his/her disease, forgets twearing the mask properly, so he/she is warned by the NGO staff to put on the mark of Holy Hygienic Covidian Cult. It's like coming back to 2020!

-A Spaniard.

Re: Crazy people masked (and 'sane' people too)

[(Anonymous)]

In my opinion, forcing mentally handicapped people under your care to wear filthy face diapers is abuse. They are abusing the vulnerable people that they are supposed to be helping.

The same goes for schools. Schools have become places where children go to be abused. There doesn't seem to be much education going on anymore.

At this point, I think that the right place for children, the sick, the elderly, and the handicapped is not in an institution but at home. There, at least, they have a chance of escaping the abuse.

More thoughts on reconciliation

[dendroica]

It seems that we are in some cases talking past each other in this discussion, so I'm starting a new thread.

This isn't about turning the other cheek to people who are actively hurting us. It isn't even about forgiving and embracing those who have personally hurt us by firing us, ending friendships, or disinviting us from gatherings and events. It most certainly isn't about any kind of compassion for the folks in science, government, media, and corporations who actively crafted and distributed the "dirty unvaxxed" narrative.

Rather, this is - for me at least - about the question of how we go about re-engaging with the majority of folks who went along with the narrative and are now slowly waking up.

I have ideas I would like to contribute to that discussion, but it seems that we are increasingly coming from different basic assumptions, and I find some of them concerning.


Unlike probably a majority of folks here, I have spent most of my life as an avowed liberal, inside the institutions where the social justice phenomenon was developing. I watched this gradually morph from a powerful movement for empathy and equality and cross-cultural conversation into the intolerant morass it has become, driven by the seemingly good intention that "we need to listen to victims and oppressed people" and then allowing the personal anger and resentment of those people to guide further developments until we had a world of safe spaces, microaggressions, and dogpiling denunciations of anyone who suggested that the evil racist bigots might have a wisp of humanity.

Unfortunately I'm seeing similar trends unfolding on this very forum, and if it continues to move in that direction I'm sad to say I'll probably be leaving.

I could deal with the Nazi Germany analogies when mandates were coming down fast and furious and we were all dodging bullets and wondering when the hammer would come for us. I didn't agree with them exactly but I could understand. This forum was a much needed refuge from the craziness. But a refuge can easily become a safe space, and it seems to me that the intolerant voices here are growing louder even as the threats from outside are growing weaker.

I understand that a lot of us have been victimized by the covidian cult over the last two years. I understand that means that we have some healing to do, and lots of anger, and that many people will personally want nothing to do with anyone who went along with the madness for quite some time. That is a choice for each of us to make.

That said, this forum is not a safe space. Or - and perhaps I am being presumptuous - I don't think that was JMG's intention. I don't want to be the only one raising my hand to say "but...what?" when I see claims that all of the folks who went along with vaccine mandates - or who believed the underlying narrative - are "evildoers" or "good Germans" and that we should continue to avoid them and boycott their businesses indefinitely. I don't want to be called a "good German" myself for making such an objection. I don't want to be the only one here standing up for the humanity and dignity of people who believed a story, who fell under a spell. A spell that any one of us could have fallen under had circumstances been a bit different.

I understand the need to be wary, to keep our guard up, to recognize that the mandate madness is part of a growing authoritarian trend driven by elites clinging to power and a whole populace clinging to failing dreams of Progress. So there will be an element of us against them, and a need to build alternative structures and informal economies, and there may be more waves of pressure and division and othering coming down the pipes.

So we may in fact need to "draw a line" somewhere. But I refuse to draw that line between myself and my aunt with COPD who really might die if she got covid and for whom the narrative has been a safety blanket. I refuse to draw that line between myself and the kind old man who owns the local bookstore and really wants everyone to be healthy and love each other more and to him that still means asking customers to wear masks. I refuse to draw that line between myself and the nonprofit that painstakingly restored our historic theater, that brings people together in joyful celebration, and that required vaccines for a while but dropped that requirement when it became clear that the shots didn't prevent transmission. In fact, when I start seeing *people* instead of their *beliefs* or - worse - my *projections* of what I think their beliefs are, there don't seem to be many folks left in my town who actually belong on the other side of that line.

I'll end this little rant with three arguments for the case that we ought to (each in our time, when we are emotionally ready) be willing to reach out to those have gone along with the covidian craziness.


It's Not Permanent

Three years ago, these folks were our friends, colleagues, beloved family. Then they believed a story that bombarded all of us on all sides from media, government, institutions, "experts." We didn't. Their rejection and dehumanization hurt us. Their acceptance of the injections hurt themselves. But the fact that they changed means that they could change again. And they are changing. People are booing Fauci who would have cheered him two years ago. People have experienced vaccine harms, and they are increasingly connecting the dots. People have recognized that the vaccines are basically worthless at their intended function and so are dropping mandates and restrictions even as the CDC and the "experts" are still twisting the data to maintain the story. Why should we not support this change, reward it even by returning to the places that shunned us? What possible benefit is there to asserting that they showed their "true colors" and that they are therefore henceforth not worthy of our trust, love, or respect?


It's Not Personal

Unlike historical pogroms against pagans or Jews or blacks or Asians, the hatred and dehumanization targeted against us has not been against some central aspect of our spiritual identity or cultural heritage or biology. It has instead been based upon a choice that we made - or, more accurately, refused to make - that according to their story reduced their physical safety. Sure, there are historical parallels in that the Nazis portrayed the Jews as diseased, but the underlying deeper hatred is missing here. They're not using fear of disease to stoke some deeper division; they're literally just afraid of disease. For me, at least, this makes it much easier to forgive. Fear of disease is at least understandable, and is something I have experienced myself. Avoidance of those believed to be carrying disease is understandable as well. The story was, of course, a lie. Those who pushed the vaccines without acknowledging the risks and who twisted the data to make them appear far more effective than they actually are should be held accountable. Those who believed the story? Well, perhaps they will learn to be less trusting of authority next time. Perhaps they owe us an apology that most will be too proud or too ashamed to utter. But I certainly don't see them as evil or irredeemable.


We Need More People

While mandates may be on their way out, those of us skeptical of the whole covid and vaccination story remain a minority in most places. If we want the movement to build - and I assume we all do - we are going to need to grow. We need the pharmacist who administered thousands of jabs and now feels intensely guilty. We need all the folks who got the jabs to "do the right thing" who are now suffering from undiagnosed injuries and being gaslit by the medical establishment. We need the doctors and nurses who are waking up. We need all of these people, and we need to welcome them as equals, not as "allies" or any of the "less than us" categories of supporters employed by the social justice movement. We don't need any purity tests in the form of "did you get jabbed or not?" or "did you ever support vaccine mandates?".



I mean this as a vision, not as a prescription. There are certainly other ways forward, and the future will probably surprise all of us. It is most certainly not intended as a judgment upon any individuals who have been wounded and need time and space to heal. If you need a space to vent your anger and frustration, I'm OK with that. But if you say that we should judge people forever based on their past actions, and that I am a "good German" for advocating outreach and reconciliation, then I'm going to have something to say about it. And if that attitude becomes predominant I'm going to find other places to spend my time. Which would be sad because this community has meant a great deal to me over the past year.

Re: More thoughts on reconciliation

[(Anonymous)]

You certainly aren't the only one with this view, Mark. I second everything you said.

My sister and parents bought into the Covid mania, and other than an awkward conversation with my father where he admitted he didn't know anything about Covid and was just listening to the authorities, it hasn't impacted my life. They may not have agreed with me, my father very vehemently thought everyone should be vaccinated (Covid killed my grandfather and put my father down for months), but they always respected my decision to not vaccinate myself or family.

They are the furthest thing from being "good Germans" as I can think of. Very conservative, America loving individuals, who are very active in their church charities and want the best for everyone. They just happened to believe a lie, and I can forgive them for that.

To the Germans here

[(Anonymous)]

To the Germans here...is this sensationalist, or are people you know worried about getting through the winter?

https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/google-searches-firewood-germany-have-exploded

Re: To the Germans here

[(Anonymous)]

They should probably be their government is clueless and also bent on punishment for those that will try to protest eventual lack of basic needs

[(Anonymous)]

The waxxine deaths and injuries mentioned on Fox

https://twitter.com/AKA_RealDirty/status/1557532969736224775

[(Anonymous)]

A study has found cardiovascular adverse effects in around a third of teenagers following Pfizer vaccination and heart inflammation in one in 43, raising fresh concerns about the risks for young people.

https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202208.0151/v1

An Unintentional Meme?

[violetcabra]

Hi JMG and commentariat,

While out today I stumbled upon an actual sign for an actual business "Forever Slender." While it doesn't mention covid-19 or vaccines, it does seem to me capture much of the moment in terms of bizarre thinking regarding health that it seems pertinent to me regarding the larger discussion. Frankly I was so gobsmacked seeing the sign that I at first wondered if I were hallucinating it. I have attached a photo of the unintentional meme below:

Re: An Unintentional Meme?

[(Anonymous)]

Hi violet, wow, that is seriously wacky.

It's for botox, I think. Same thing people use to stop crinkling their brow and getting wrinkles.

Random Forumista

"Covidians" trending

[(Anonymous)]

"Covidians" trending

https://twitter.com/search?q=Covidians&src=trend_click&vertical=trends

[ecosophia]

I have misplaced an article I need to cite in an upcoming blog post. If I recall correctly, it was in the Lancet, and it showed that your risk of being harmed or killed from Covid was smaller than your risk of being harmed or killed by the vaccine. Does anyone recall the article, and can you link me to it? Many thanks.

[dendroica]

Nothing comes to mind, but if such an article exists I too would like to read it.

[(Anonymous)]

https://gatesofvienna.net/2022/08/under-the-shadow-of-the-nuremberg-noose/

I thank God I was able to talk Sonkitten out of the experimental gene therapy.

—Princess Cutekitten

[(Anonymous)]

Good job. I wish I was as successful with my family, but on the bright side this will probably save us a court battle over inheritance (assuming whatever is left is worth anything).

Memes

[team10tim]

Let's start of with a something harsh



Robert Malone does a meme post every Friday:

https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/friday-funnies-34c

My favorite this week:



And a very close second:



and here are the rest:

















Finally a dose of common sense:



and we now return you to our regularly scheduled program

[(Anonymous)]

Many of us follow Kunstler for a long time although this may enter into conspiracy theory, I think it can pass, probably because passes with a disclaimer that is a personal theory and I present it here for historical reasons of this thread.

My personal theory is that the Covid-19 release was wholly and entirely about getting rid of Donald Trump and nothing else, in order to protect the permanent bureaucracy, a.k.a. the deep state, which was faltering in its countless turpitudes against the people, including the FBI and DOJ’s complicity in the criminal frauds and seditions of RussiaGate, and the CIA’s complicity in the “whistleblower” shenanigans behind Trump impeachment No. 1. The “long game” in the Covid-19 scam of 2020 was obviously to set-up the loosest mail-in voting apparatus possible to enable maximum ballot fraud in that year’s elections. The catch is, the Covid-19 play did not protect the deep state; it only further demonstrated its malevolence.

https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/the-sickening-quickening/

So at the moment there are these fringe theories where US is the source of BOVID19: Chinese foreign minister points at Fort Detrick, Russian MOD at USAID and a lot conservatives at the Deep state.

Interestingly enough the Deep state now endorses the lab origin of BOVID19, after it denied vehemently and literally destroyed careers of those scientists speaking about that possibility, lab origin is true, but points the finger at China.

I hope JMG lets this comment pass as I just not endorse any of the conspiracy but present the state of the finger pointing at the moment and how state actors and powerful political movements got behind it.

One remarkable point is that now also the state actors that condemn conspiracy theories engage in exactly those kind of conspiracy theories.

[(Anonymous)]

To my mind, it's a muddle of finger pointing because the fingers are pointing at other human beings, and these are not the only actors on this stage. Each might have some piece of the story, some a bigger piece than others, but no one has the whole picture.

A related thought: Sometimes there are stories that do not make sense told from one lens, they need to be told from various lenses. Doug Marmon has a lot to say about lenses, in particular his book LENSES OF PERCEPTION
https://lensesofperception.com/2016/03/lenses-of-perception/

In fiction, two examples of complex stories that are told, and I would say, **because** they need to be told from more than one lens, or point of view, are WAR & PEACE and THE LAST PRINCE OF THE MEXICAN EMPIRE.

PS I'm a respectful reader of Kunstler. I don't always agree with his conclusions, and I can see why he rubs some people the wrong way, but he's funny, well-informed, and often brings me information and insights I do not find elsewhere. It gave me immense heart when Kunstler came out against the vaxxes and the violations of civil and human rights.

[(Anonymous)]

I could not find these on Google but were first on Yandex

https://dailytelegraph.co.nz/covid-19/crisis-in-slovenia-whistleblower-nurse-says-politicians-receive-saline-instead-of-mrna-jab/

https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/injected-with-a-saline-solution-president-of-european-pharma-giant-pharmamar-is-among-2200-european-elites-charged-being-falsely-vaccinated/

just a thought ....

[(Anonymous)]

Placebo power...

-A Spaniard.