Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 21

[ecosophia]

The semi-open posts  I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a very high number of comments, so I'm opening yet another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, as the Biden administration backpedals frantically from its campaign promises, the toll from vaccine side effects keeps mounting higher and higher, and the ever more frequent sound of ambulance sirens becomes the background of American life, the floor is open for discussion.  

Comments

Slope of M is changing toward the positive

[degringolade]

I have been seeing more in the way of serious literature pointing toward the fact that COVID actaully has "treatments" available. Lot of folks are pointing at a treatment plan that goes farther than VAX.

Today's example

https://www.mdpi.com/1467-3045/44/1/3

Re: Slope of M is changing toward the positive

[(Anonymous)]

I just have a revelation that the shot need the crack in the narrative more than the unfoxxed, the sooner they get the early treatment the more likely to recover their immune system.

I had a second revelation, they are in the 2016 election fighting mode, and they double, triple and multiple down, now the dead-line or "election day" equivalent was 8 of December but was pushed somewhere in February 2022, they will try a 2020 and ballot stuffing type tactics to save the narrative, even if that means disaster for them. Of course the higher-up critters are getting excellent medical service, and thus early treatment, remember the news that members of congress were treated with IvyRMerkTin, etc

The problem is what I discussed in earlier, the Tarot is most used in West and the omens will show in this language, that the Devil card is showing with this, you can easily imagine the Fauxy or Gatesofhell on the Devil card, complete with the smirk, bound people. The thing is that the Tower card as an omen was manifested with the exit of Afghanistan complete with people falling from the sky, a lightning strikes on the obelisk in front of the White house. Now if you think about how the Tower works the longer you postpone the crash the higher you will fall from, the higher Icarus goes the harder will fall.

[(Anonymous)]

From the last page of last week's forum:

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Re: "I will always consider the people that bought into this nazis and murderers."

Me, too. I try to keep my heart open and vibes high, but... It is what it is. They have done what they have done.

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Re: VA Mtn Man
Date: 2021-12-28 05:11 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] methylethyl
I'm trying to keep in mind that... the most powerful advocates for leaving a cult are usually other people who have already left the cult. The most powerful evangelists for making a life change are usually... people who have made that life change (people who have quit smoking, or lost 150 pounds and kept it off, people who got off drugs and turned their lives around, people who worked in abortion clinics and then became pro-life advocates...).

So... yeah, they're nazis. But it might be helpful to realize that they're also a pool of potential ex-nazis. Somewhere in that dismal soup of degraded humanity, there are people who can, and will, face what they're doing, turn it around, and become trailblazers for others. Is there anything we can do to facilitate that?

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks for your reply - I am the original commenter.

I think you are raising a great point and I hope there are ways to help people find their humanity again.

Right now, for me, the best thing to do is to stay away. I know it's selfish. I had some former friends trying to contact me recently, maybe they have doubts but I didn't reply - I need to rebuild my emotional energy after a very draining 2 years.

Scale of the disaster

[(Anonymous)]

I read this in Steve Kirsch's blog based on autopsy results conducted by Sucharit Bhakdi and Arne Burkardt. Chek the last sentence of the following comment.

"Reactions from a level-headed scientist (name withheld to protect him from attack)

If the autopsy findings are confirmed by other pathologists with additional samples, and if they are combined with the findings of Dr. Hoffe (>60% inoculant recipients have elevated D-dimer tests and evidence of clotting) and Dr. Cole (increase in cancers after inoculation, including twenty-fold increase in uterine cancer), we are seeing a disaster of unimaginable proportions. The conclusion (if supported by further data) is that essentially EVERY inoculant recipient suffers damage, with more damage after each shot. Given the seriousness of the types of damage (autoimmune diseases, cancer, re-emergent dormant infections, clotting/strokes, cardiac damage, etc.), these effects will translate into lifespan reduction, which should be counted as deaths from the inoculations. So, in the USA, where ~200M people have been fully inoculated, the number of deaths will not be the 10,000 or so reported in VAERS, or the 150,000+ scaled-up deaths from VAERS, but could be closer to tens of millions when the inoculation effects play out!"

https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/bhakdiburkhardt-pathology-results

Re: Scale of the disaster

[kimberlysteele]

Ugh, if that turns out to be correct, then my Ogham divination that most of the people who took the vax will sicken and die early is dead on. They have a track record of being accurate. Despite their usual accuracy, I personally disagreed with my Ogham's divination and noted this in my blog: https://kimberlysteele.dreamwidth.org/50675.html/ Much of my hesitation to believe my Ogham is because I cannot imagine such a scenario taking place... it is too painful and it spells horrible fates for many of my loved ones and friends.

cases, cases everywhere

[lp9]

My holiday gathering (foxxed and boosted father and 90-year old grandmother, foxxed but not boosted mother and husband, and unfoxxed me and kids) is the ONLY gathering I know of that was not cancelled due to a fully foxxed person getting covid. In my sister's case, her fully foxxed teen niece got it. My brother's fully foxxed brother-in-law tested positive while in the emergency room for a gall bladder attack (that put the kibosh on their party anyways). My mom's phone was buzzing the entire weekend with text messages from other friends relaying their plans had to be cancelled. My husband's lunch with coworkers today? Cancelled as a foxxed and boosted co-worker has covid. I hope most people are not realizing these things don't work as advertised!

I also learned today that my husband's very well-off, PMC coworker is now refusing to take any more shots. She's double foxxed and boosted her doctor explained that she's now essentially unvaccinated because the shots provide at the most 10 weeks of protection. She's also suffering neuropathy in her hands since her last shot and told my husband that she "feels duped."

Re: cases, cases everywhere

[(Anonymous)]

Neuropathy can be seriously awful, I know since I got it in my hands after a chemo treatment. Two years later the neuropathy has mostly faded, but in cold weather I still feel it. When it was fresh, right after the chemo, touching anything cold made my hands feel like they were being literally electrified. I could not even touch a jug of milk in the refrigerator, it was that bad.

What's seriously strange is how so many covidians, when told about a vaxx injury, just look blank. To be clear, I don't have a vax injury myself (I have not received the vaxx), but I have a relative who had a terrible vax injury she has been suffering from for many years, and no one in the family seemed to think that that was any valid reason for not getting vaxxed & boosted (!!).

[ari_ormstunga]

My ex-spouse (mandated into getting vaccinated after voicing concerns about the potential lethality of the shots) has more or less joined the covidians at this point and it sounds like she is planning on getting her daughter "vaccinated" as well. This despite the fact that she, her boyfriend, my girlfriend, and I have ALL had, and fully recovered from, Covid with no undue difficulty. I've learned a whole bunch of really unflattering things about human beings and group behavior firsthand during this little sojourn in Hell.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes but why were you surprised? Haven't you read all the old books. It's the same story on repeat, this time with our Faustian tendency of telling everyone else what to do.

[scotlyn]

Standing on the hill, gaining perspective, looking back over the terrain just traversed...

A very excellent illustration for this change into the new solar year, and also new calendar year...

[taylorrose]

Is that really the terrain just traversed though? I thought it was the terrain ahead. Didn't the past twenty posts show what we already passed?

In any case, it certainly does seem like an unusually new, new year.

[(Anonymous)]

I have to agree with a previous commenter on one of the prior open COVID posts that we'll need a significant amount of compassion by and for all sides of this issue once we're on the other side and the hysteria has passed. Healing breaches in our relationships is far more important than being right.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not going near a dog that has bitten that the authorities trained and refused to put down. It's not about being right, it's about distancing yourself from crazy people. The rabid foxxed can go fox themselves imo.
comrade simba

[(Anonymous)]

JMG, if you don't mind I will copy the last comment from last week's thread (not written by me):

Anonymous said:
"I am Romanian so far enough from the States but for me that repulsive character, Septic Fossa, Fosse, Cloaca, you know who, and the other character Billy Portae ex inferno, I cannot stand them, even the crack of those voices, makes me turn off a video, they seem very charged with some seriously bad vibes...

If JMG want to delete this bit he can but wanted to vent my frustration..."

I hope you are reading this, fellow Romanian.
First, accept your reaction (gut feeling) because they are sometimes pointing you in the right direction - I feel the same for what it's worth.

But... don't forget what Soljenitzin said:
"The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either -- but right through every human heart -- and through all human hearts."

Every time I see evil manifest, I am disgusted and repelled but also I am trying to understand it.
I know that I am capable of that same evil. That's when I thank the Gods I am not rich or powerful - who knows what I would do.

My advice is to stop watching TV, MSM and even reading online (I reduced my online presence a lot).
Do you have friends, family or neighbors that you can work with? If not, it's time to move.
There are plenty of villages in Romania where you can get a house for free or very cheap. I recommend reading "Viata fara ceas" (https://mutatlatara.ro/).
Ultimately, we have to make our lives worth living for us and politics are a distraction, especially given the coming crises.

[(Anonymous)]

Hi I don't watch TV I just watch for a few seconds the home page of some propaganda outlets. I've tried the village part back in the peak oil days, my parents opposed and my grannies helped. What a good decision to do it then, there was not so much propaganda polution with alternatives styles, people where busy making money. When the grannies died. I went for the big city. I am not illusioned there is a lot of anomy in Romania villages and sheer destruction at the moment, I think they are at the lowest point in history.

I don't want to understand too much the evil, I try to focus on my being, but I understand and see their addiction because I fought mine several times in the past.

I don't see them backtacking at this point. They probably cannot, and if there is something nefarious from another plane. They will hold together and go together, in a nasty way, pushed by either the people or Nature, Nature has its garbage collector too.

Army and booster shots

[(Anonymous)]

Looks like I'm going to be forced to get the booster shot to stay in the army. I don't know what to do right now. I got the Johnson shot and felt sick for days and to this day have numbness/tingling in my ring and pinky fingers on both hands post vax (August 2021), which does not go away. That has already been documented. I know its hard to ask for advice here since I'm the only one capable of making the decision now, but I'm at a loss what to do. It feels as if no one cares about the side effects I've already had, and that they'll brush that off as unrelated to the vax somehow. Being anonymous here of course, but anyone here in the army in a similar situation? I'm deployed overseas btw in CENTCOM.

My mom sent me some spike protein detox info from Dr. Mercola and some other sources. Heavy on aspirin, nac, glutathione, etc. If I am forced to go through another round of this, what can I do to mitigate myocarditis and strokes? I'm already taking a lot of aspirin daily (between 1-3 grams, based on Ray Peat) but any help is appreciated.

Re: Army and booster shots

[(Anonymous)]

I’m sorry you are now facing down the booster. I have no real advice but just wanted to say you aren’t alone. My husband is no longer on active duty and managed to escape the shot until December when our state’s National Guard was told to get it or receive no more pay. He waited until the very last day he could and then went for the J&J the day before drill as he would have otherwise been forced to take Pfizer at drill.

Are you able to wait to take the booster until the last moment? Not helpful advice but perhaps a way to buy some time to see what if anything might come in the near future.

~DaisyChain

The Zoom Class Gets Covid

[(Anonymous)]

Along with our generous host JMG, Jeffrey A. Tucker, Founder and President of the Brownstone Institute, is one of my heroes in this Covidian Bizarremare. Tucker's latest essay concludes:

"What they attempted in 2020-21 was without precedent in the modern world. It did not finally work, even to achieve the aim of keeping the professional classes disease free. This is perhaps the moment when it all finally comes to an end, not with repudiation but with resignation, acquiescence, and surrender. You can stigmatize anyone but you go too far when we do that to the ruling class elites themselves."

The Zoom Class Gets Covid
BY JEFFREY A. TUCKER DECEMBER 27, 2021

For nearly two years, we’ve wondered how this will end. In retrospect, the clue is in how it began.

The initial lockdowns had a strong class-based component. The working classes were assigned the job of delivering groceries, tending to the sick, driving the trucks filled with goods, keeping the lights on, and keeping the fuel running. The professional class, among whom were the people who pushed lockdowns in the name of disease avoidance/suppression, were assigned the job of staying home in their pajamas and staying safe.

It all happened seemingly in an instant. We all had to figure out whether our job qualified and what we should do. More striking at the time was the very notion that government bureaucrats could slice and dice the population this way, deciding what can open and what cannot, who must work and who must not, what we can and cannot do based on our station in life.

So it now seems obvious to me. This whole disaster would finally come to an end (or at least the end would begin) when it became obvious that the great strategy of class division and demarcation would fail to protect the Zoom class from infection.

That day has finally arrived, with cases soaring in many parts of the country and hitting everyone of every class, whether they are being “careful” and adhering to the “mitigation measures” or not. What’s even more striking is how even the vaccines, which were supposed to codify the wisdom of class segregation, have not protected against infection.

All of this seems to have taken place over the course of December 2021, with the arrival of the seemingly mild Omicron variant. Still the other variants circulate widely, causing various degrees of severity with or without hospitalization much less death. In other words, millions from among all classes of people are finally getting sick. At this point, we seem to be seeing a big shift in attitudes.

A lot of this comes from casual conversation. A person comes down with Covid, perhaps confirmed by the newly fashionable at-home tests. “Did you get vaccinated?” the person is invariably asked. The answer comes back: yes and boosted. That’s when the chill happens. It appears that nothing can ultimately protect people from this. In which case, it is time we change our tune.

“Thousands who ‘followed the rules’ are about to get covid. They shouldn’t be ashamed,” headlines the Washington Post.

>>> CONTINUE READING AT https://brownstone.org/articles/the-zoom-class-gets-covid/

Tuesday updated .epub

[(Anonymous)]

Your usual Tuesday updated .epub file containing hypothesis, all opens posts with all comments to date.
https://mega.nz/file/ZEQEATpL#-gCnw39hIvQbk1nTx6UmBzHdbHIVH3Li2smPBThv7gk


Happy new year everyone!

Re: Tuesday updated .epub

[(Anonymous)]

OP here, on your PC and Mac you can use
https://calibre-ebook.com/
This can also convert for any type of ebook reader.

Tip if you read it on PC or Mac and want to see the original thread in browser you can click the link "Thread from start" in the ebook to open it in the browser.

[(Anonymous)]

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/covid-antiviral-pills-cause-life-threatening-reactions-many-common-meds

If you thought the Big Quackery vaccines were great, you're just going to love their antiviral pills! With added side-effects and adverse reactions with several drugs! All for the low low price of your health, your life and your job!

Call today.

[(Anonymous)]

Will they make people swallow a pill in front of a guard to enter theaters and concert halls? The arts establishments are the most covidian cult regulated and I can't see a live theater show or classical concert with a vax. No test exceptions!

[(Anonymous)]

And another excellent, impassioned essay by Thomas Harrington at Brownstone Institute:

"But if we really want to safeguard that beauty and pass it on to our children and grandchildren, we must be prepared, as mature adults, to see and confront authoritarian campaigns of coercion and social control when they stare us in the face."

The Full Secularization of the Doctrine of Original Sin
BY THOMAS HARRINGTON DECEMBER 6, 2021
https://brownstone.org/articles/the-full-secularization-of-the-doctrine-of-original-sin/

[scotlyn]

Also, the chinese character you picked for "irritated" is one I happen to recognise (and I do NOT claim any great knowledge of Chinese here!). It is the same character that is used for the "burner" part of the Triple Burner Channel/Organ in Chinese medicine.

When you look up this character in zhongwen.com - you find that it is composed of two simpler characters meaning "bird" and "fire" - so, in a sketchy, let's stretch our symbols, way, it may be that you are reaching for a "phoenix" moment here... ;)

http://zhongwen.com/d/181/d74.gif

Trump Championing the Fox

[(Anonymous)]

Full disclosure: I detest Trump (as well as our current president).

Wondering why people think Trump is defending the fox so much. And will this affect his election chances in 2024?

Re: Trump Championing the Fox

[(Anonymous)]

Because Trump is just as much a product of American Late Silent/Early Baby Boomer elite culture. Keep in mind just how much vaccines for things like smallpox improved things during his life. There's a very good reason for him to think they are still powerful, and it will take a lot to break that pretense.

[stcathalexandria]

Are Biden and the Dem's ending their vixen madness? I want to believe they are but the trajectory tells me after they have a restful pause for the holidays they'll be back with both boots on the neck and knee to the chest. Even if they do start playing nice, I will live expecting to have the world turned upside down by some new policy issued by executive order or bureaucratic decree.

[(Anonymous)]

"Are Biden and the Dem's ending their vixen madness?"

That is entirely the wrong question. The question is: are there enough courageous people in the state/region where you are?

Just look at the difference between US and the re-nazified western Europe. It has nothing to do with how good our leaders are, just with the number of people standing up for themselves.

So no, Biden & co won't stop. And given the thread above where a couple of people in the army were crying about being "forced" to take the booster, there is not enough resistance for the scamdemic to stop.

At the same time, there are plenty of states, counties and towns where the scamdemic is over basically - because people stopped obeying insane rules.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, the Walmart in the caucasian working-class suburb of Milwaukee in which I live has a sign at its door "respectfully requesting" that all customers mask. And hardly anyone was doing that. So perhaps this is an indicator of the growing class and geographic divide around the Covid Narrative. --Mr. Nobody

[(Anonymous)]

You in South Milwaukee?

Year Review

[revert2mean]

Don't know if this might help anyone else. I found it quite positive. I was doing a Year Review meditation, which basically consisted of listing everything that vanished in 2021: liberal democracy, freedom of speech, the right to refuse medical treatment, my job, my income, my father, my cousin. It was a long list really. And the reply was that although it was a long list, I needed to make it longer. I should add that my time-poor schedule vanished, and my caring responsibilities for my father, and people relying on me for so much money. Told me I'd been carefully placed in a nice easy job where I could shine and focus on my health, and have less responsibility for other people. Told me there would be a great need for energy medicine practitioners in the near future and that was where I should focus. So, anyway, I found that helpful.

Re: Year Review

[(Anonymous)]

I've been journaling every day the last two years. A lot of it is trite day-to-day things, some is my emotions of what is occurring, some predictions, some of the conflict I am having. Each month I read back over the past month's entries and come up with themes and learnings, and then I do it for the year. It's been interesting to see where I've been struggling through this, what I fell for in terms of narrative/propaganda, and what I really value.

I like the idea of adding regular meditation practice to it. We really are each on our own individual path through this.

[(Anonymous)]

in the sort of delicious irony we’ve all come to expect from modern day health policy (and doubly so from the boriqua version) we see once more the total faceplant of “jim covid” laws.

MMM is a puerto rico health insurer.

they mandated covid vaccination for employees.

employees sued and won exemptions.

the company responded by segregating them and moving all the unvaxxed into a separate building.

then covid broke out in the vaccinated building (but not the unvaxxed).

you seriously cannot make this stuff up.

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/quarantining-the-vaccinated/comments

[(Anonymous)]

i was about to post this very same thing. good thing i did a refresh first ;-)

Covid and Economics

[(Anonymous)]

I am sure someone has already made this point several times over on this thread, and no doubt in a more substantial manner. Still, for whatever its worth I feel like economics is probably the thing that will break the current spell. Yes, many people are having bad reactions, but they are isolated enough so that realization is taking some time to sink in. What is not taking a long time to sink in because it effects everyone immediately is inflation. From what I have been reading it looks like used car sales and food are both up by about 50 percent in the U.S. (my friend's favorite restaurant raised his go to meal from 8 to 14 dollars this past year, for whatever that's worth). Housing is also up about 20 percent, and health care... well the financial cost is no longer the limiting factor... It seems like similar situations are playing out all over the world right now, although the numbers will vary by currency and region.

So the good news is that unless a miracle happens the pressure from rising prices will break the meta narrative the the current governments in short order. They are currently busy trying to blame businesses for rising prices, but the all inclusive nature of price rises and the obviously disruptive behavior of the governments lately has made this an impossible sell. So yeah, I see this current round of madness ending in 2022 unless inflation cools off, which is hard to imagine without an even more disruptive deflationary stock market crash.

But the bad news is that when the covid nightmare finally gets pushed to the back burner there will be another crisis waiting in the wings to take its place, and most of the resources we could have used to tackle the economic problems have long since been wasted chasing this moll hill turned into an imaginary mountain.

Re: Covid and Economics

[(Anonymous)]

As long as the next crisis doesn’t involve mass forced Russian roulette, it will most likely be a drastic improvement.

Vaccines are High Status

[stcathalexandria]

It occurred to me this morning that vaccines and boosters have been propagandized into a high status signifier by the media. Those who take them are considering caring, intelligent, responsible, and of course way better than those horrid anti-vaxxers. I don't see this group giving up their high status no matter if they are infected with covid or know people who die or are harmed by the boosters.

They need a substitute high status signifier. Before the vaccine campaign having long covid was one in some circles. What will it be for them?

Whatever it is they will wear it as a badge of pride and expect society to pivot around them.

Re: Vaccines are High Status

[lp9]

Yes! I received multiple Christmas cards this year where the senders proudly bragged about their vaccination status. Next year I think I'm going to update everyone on my latest pap smear.

In Memoriam

[barefootwisdom]

Here at the turning of the year, as so many commentators (here and on last week's post) have remarked on the need for compassion as hearts change, I'm reminded of one of Tennyson's poems. All the references to grief, false pride, civic slander, "faithful coldness," seem so timely.

Here it is:

In Memoriam
Alfred Lord Tennyson

Ring out, wild bells, to the wild sky,
   The flying cloud, the frosty light:
   The year is dying in the night;
Ring out, wild bells, and let him die.

Ring out the old, ring in the new,
   Ring, happy bells, across the snow:
   The year is going, let him go;
Ring out the false, ring in the true.

Ring out the grief that saps the mind
   For those that here we see no more;
   Ring out the feud of rich and poor,
Ring in redress to all mankind.

Ring out a slowly dying cause,
   And ancient forms of party strife;
   Ring in the nobler modes of life,
With sweeter manners, purer laws.

Ring out the want, the care, the sin,
   The faithless coldness of the times;
   Ring out, ring out my mournful rhymes
But ring the fuller minstrel in.

Ring out false pride in place and blood,
   The civic slander and the spite;
   Ring in the love of truth and right,
Ring in the common love of good.

Ring out old shapes of foul disease;
   Ring out the narrowing lust of gold;
   Ring out the thousand wars of old,
Ring in the thousand years of peace.

Ring in the valiant man and free,
   The larger heart, the kindlier hand;
   Ring out the darkness of the land,
Ring in the Christ that is to be.

Re: In Memoriam

[deborah_bender]

If you like this poem, it is a small part of a book of poems (also called In Memoriam), which Tennyson wrote after the death of a good friend. The series of poems shows the poet going through several stages of the grieving process. The poem you quoted is near the end of the cycle, when the poet is beginning to recover hope.

All the poems use the same ABBA rhyme scheme. Apart from that, the poems are very different. If you like formal poetry of this kind, it's worth your while to read the entire cycle in order. In Memoriam is a short book that is well over one hundred years old, so it qualifies for one of JMG's reading assignments.

Hypothesis check again

[(Anonymous)]

JMG,

Just the other day I was thinking about how we keep thinking about us vs. them...foxxed vs. non-foxxed. But in reality it is about all of us - us the current humans in this incarnation at this moment in time

Please do not despair! I know very well that we are just one more creature in this Earth and we are not entitled to any special treatment...so, I'm not asking about why are our saviours taking so long to rescue us precious little special snowflakes - not at all

What I'm asking is...is this where we finally go down with the demons to depths of Tartarus? is it now that our debts/ chains / links or connections to them are being tested and we - as a collection of souls - decide the end result? Is this equivalent to the kind of stuff that happened to Atlantis?

ok, so I thought I'd throw that one out there, just in case ...

Thanks for everything you do

Iridescent Furry Mandrake

Re: Hypothesis check again

[ecosophia]

Oh, I'm far from despairing -- that's never been a habit that appeals to me. Yes, this is starting to look very much like the sort of thing that happened, according to tradition, in the last years of Atlantis; the main difference this time being that we may not have to go sailing in a hurry.

[(Anonymous)]

Looking at all the insanity going on among the overdeveloped (as JMG put it) nations of the world, all I can say is I'm glad I live in a third world country with a president who has promised not to make use of the authoritarian measures so popular elsewhere. Best of luck to those of you who are dealing with control freaks in your contries.

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you! Normally people in the first world look down on the third world but I suspect those tables will turn in the coming years.

More from Steve Kirsch

[(Anonymous)]

The best summary I can come up with to describe this effort from Steve Kirsch is: "It's a crowd-funded vexine event reporting system"

An uncorrupted UCSF Prof proposing a proactive survey of the foxed. From Steve Kirsch's substack:
______________
I’m funding a study at UCSF that is being done by Professor Aditi Bhargava. Her study will proactively contact people and find out what the ACTUAL adverse event rates are for all symptoms. No more guesswork.

I’m writing this to invite you to join me in funding her study.

Professor Bhargava spoke at the Ron Johnson event in DC that happened two months ago. Naturally, her testimony (starting at 2:12:00) and that of BMJ Associate Editor Peter Doshi (starting at 1:48:00) were removed by YouTube for violating their terms of service. But they are still available on the CHD website.

See

https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/how-you-can-help-us-end-the-vaccine

for details. I plan to donate myself.