Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 19

[ecosophia]

The semi-open posts  I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a very high number of comments, so I'm opening yet another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, as formerly healthy athletes keep clutching their chests and collapsing in the middle of games, and governments melt down about the Omigosh variant while ignoring the increasingly high rate of unexplained deaths from other causes, the floor is open for discussion.  

Comments

Omicron severity?

[(Anonymous)]

Looks to me like we have a new confusion and controversy about whether this new omicron variant is more or less severe than the variants that have come before.

Would anyone be willing to share what they feel are good sources of information or analyses that speak to this?

So far all I've found is the usual bickering falling along the usual ideological lines. I'm also trying to combat my own internal biases that would have me believe that the new variant is less severe, in part because that's what I want to be the case, and in part because it's what I would expect to happen given my understanding that viruses typically evolve to be more contagious and less deadly over time.

Re: Omicron severity?

[(Anonymous)]

https://www.rintrah.nl/the-vaccine-wont-work-against-omicron-even-if-youre-boosted/

Interesting thread here.

Personally, I think that among populations with high natural infections, they are getting close to the end of the pandemic via herd immunity.

The variant is likely to cause more harm among populations with relatively low rates of infection but high vaccination rates.

I could be wrong though.

ADE

[(Anonymous)]

I have two people in my family who had reactions to the vax. My sister had blood clots in her lungs and almost died. Her doctors told her it was due to the Advil that she had been taking for 7 years to treat her sore kneck. They did not report to VAERS.
My wife just had 4 stents put in. I asked her doctors if the vax could be responsible and they poo-pooed it. They didn't report it either. Seems they knew better somehow.
I heard that the AMA sent out letters to doctors telling them that if they spread vax misinformation they could loose their licenses. How are we supposed to tell if ADE is happening if no one reports to VAERS? I would also like to point out that negative efficacy after 6 months is ADE. Just saying.
Mike F

Re: ADE

[(Anonymous)]

To answer your question, we are not supposed to be able to tell if any of those immune issues are happening, that's the whole point of foxxing as many as possible. Take solace in the fact that this is completely normal behaviour from Western Medicine at the behest of the pharmaceutical industry. It's been going on for decades and will continue until the whole thing collapses under the weight of its body crushing the head that is deeply buried in the sand.

[(Anonymous)]

I would like to hope that reaching post 19 of Covid 19 will somehow start to disintegrate this malevolence.

Here's hoping and thank you again and again for producing and sharing so much more resources than anyone one person needs to. It is a better world for it.

[(Anonymous)]

Your usual Tuesday updated .epub file containing hypothesis, all opens posts with all comments to date.
https://mega.nz/file/gQ4RlQ4R#BalkpYtrxQnovMfLNuQgEPivJ5U-tow8RegDRTtxRSI

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you so much for making the effort to do this. Very much appreciated.

FDA stops shipment of ivermectin

[(Anonymous)]

On The Automatic Earth website, there's a photo of a document that tells the recipient their shipment of 200 ivermectin pills from "overseas" has been held because they are "drugs not in compliance with the requirements of the law." I could post the image I saved, but I'm not sure JMG would approve.

I wondered when the US government would start doing this. I've read articles that other countries, such as Holland, have started denying entry of ivermectin purchased outside their borders.

Re: FDA stops shipment of ivermectin

[(Anonymous)]

time to hit your local tractor supply or feed store. i doubt that our equestrian class will put up with their prized horses succumbing to parasites, pandemic or not.

- p coyle

Eye tests can look at vascular issues

[scotlyn]

I would like to reiterate a point I made in the last thread, especially to people who have been foxed, not noticed any particular issues, but would like to know if they are in danger of a vascular, clotting or bleeding event.

The issue is that there is a way to view a person's blood vessels "in vivo" - ie in all their living glory - that all eye doctors - including ophthalmologists, and also optometrists - are trained to examine and analyse. This is the view straight into the eyeball, via the transparent pupil/cornea of the eye.

If a person, who has as yet suffered no adverse consequences, wants to know if a fox has affected their blood vessels, a good way to get an early warning on this would be to compare before and after images of the insides of their eyeballs. So far as I know this type of examination is a standard element of the regular eye exams that anyone wearing glasses/contacts would undergo roughly every two years.

If their eye doctor or optometrist does not work with imaging technology (many simply use their own eyes, up close and with a strong light shining into yours) a good chat with this person about any changes they may have spotted in the before and after examinations, could reveal whether something serious is amiss.

This kind of eyeball interior examination is completely non-invasive (apart from the bright light shining directly into your eye), and may provide some useful (ie - actionable) information.

Best wishes to all who find themselves in this situation. Just remember that the human body is not an inert or passive object that a pharmaceutical product can have a predictable effect upon. It has its own resources and will sometimes be able to be completely surprising in its response, just like any part of nature.

Re: Eye tests can look at vascular issues

[deborah_bender]

What Scotlyn wrote above also applies to anyone who has higher blood cholesterol numbers than current guidelines recommend, and wonders whether plaque is forming inside their blood vessels.

[(Anonymous)]

My browser still opens with the front page of the hallowed NYTimes, our most infamous paper of record...I like seeing how they're spinning things. Today's headline was a real doozy! "OMICRON IS A DRESS REHEARSAL FOR THE NEXT PANDEMIC: America’s response to the variant highlights both how much progress we have made over the past two years — and how much work remains" Are TPTB elites telegraphing their next moves? Almost makes me wish for fast collapse.
Jim W

London Calling

[escorcher]

Looking like London is omicron hotspot of Europe right now and one to two weeks ahead of the States.

Greater London has had lower than the English average infection figures all summer and autumn but cases have shot up in the last week or so. Supposedly half of all cases are now omicron.

Worth watching what happens there - taking into account it has a lower rate of vaccination than the rest of Britain. ...

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/omicron-dominant-variant-london-cases-covid-b971803.html

Re: London Calling San Diego CA!

[(Anonymous)]

San Diego's "Union Tribune" is also squalling about the first two cases of Oh My Cron here.
Way too early to tell yet from the County Health Department stats whether it is more or less virulent than other variants, and of course the fact that 78% of the population now have at least one injection in them will cloud up the issue.

- Cicada Grove

[(Anonymous)]

We’ve been attempting to warn my in-laws with little effects, they simply couldn’t dispense with their authority drug or stop believing anything that came out of people with money and big names.

They got all their foxes, the results a heart attack for him and pulmonary thrombosis for her, they’re still alive, for how long it’s not sure. They’re still so much under a propaganda spell that they still can’t admit the cause of their illness.

I know of one workplace where a virulent flu swept through weeks before the start of the lockdown, about 70% got sick from it, later the employer imposed a fox mandate, the 30% who didn’t get the flu ended up with various side effects from the fox, the 70% who caught the flu escaped side effects.

It would seem that actually catching the disease actually can immunize against the fox which is for all practical purpose a virulent form of the disease.

Work From Home

[(Anonymous)]

Here in Quebec, as the "Moronic" is approaching, the government has just asked employers to go back to work from home policies if they can. I was curious how some of you guys felt about the work from home situation?

From one perspective, I am certainly more disconnected from my collegues. However, I am also now more immediately connected to my neighborhood. I now know so many more people that live in my vicinity. The closest café just around the corner to my house is coincidentally one of the most vocally opposed businesses in Montréal against the vaccine passports for bars/restaurants etc. This has been quite nice as I'm not vaccinated. It's an old school italian coffee shop were people aren't afraid to speak their mind. Spending more time there has been a welcome social outlet. With this and the lack of commute / freedom / flexibility, the work from home has been quite welcome. As an architect/designer I still do get to meet people on site. However, I could see the work from home momentum could further fracture the social fabric. Would love to know what you guys think about this situation!?

SGB

Re: Work From Home

[(Anonymous)]

I've been WFH since March 2020 and similarly, have gotten to know my immediate neighbors in the next apartments pretty well.
I am waiting for the at-work mask mandate to be dropped, then I will probably go back into the office.

With all the Zoom meetings and emails I don't feel that disconnected from my colleagues; actually. I've transitioned to a couple new projects since the pandemic started and I'm not sure how many people on the new teams actually know I work from home.

I'm not sure work-from-home will fracture the social fabric, more like fold it in new ways. Assuming that all of my fellow office fauna survive the shot, of course. :(

Path Forward (?)

[stcathalexandria]

The photo you picked this week is tied to my question and struggle. My kids are home for the holidays and my daughter said to me today "I want to talk with you about something other than the vaccine!"

I have been become consumed since July with trying to figure out -
1) what is going on for me in regards to my non-vixen status (can I continue in my business and what pivots should I be making now?),
2) what will happen to my family health wise (Mark L.'s posts simplifying the science have been so helpful!). I can not get my adult kids to commit to not take boosters that are mandate driven by their colleges. They took the 2 dose Pfizer under mandate, and now are apathetic about talking about it further. I'm wondering if it fried something in their brains or spirits? My husband isn't planning to take a booster but won't commit to not doing it either. All seem more concerned about fitting in where they are (college, work) than their health. None seem to have done any research or have any knowledge of all the weird side effects and deaths.
3) what forces are at work nationally or internationally driving some of the actions of our "leaders."

I now stand here in December with a lot of knowledge but struggling to move on a path forward. I *think* I've landed on the following -
1) I need to act as if vixen mandates will continue to be rolled out in slow motion fashion. As they occur, I will speak up as they impact me working not to antagonize the powers-that-be and focusing on everyone taking the high road. I find myself cowering in fear that someone will ask my status and fear that I will be excluded from more things I care about.
2) I can't stop myself from worrying about my family and its become incredibly emotionally consuming. Please Help!
3) We don't have two opposing political parties in the U.S. We have some individual elected politicians sprinkled around the country who oppose the larger seemingly nefarious forces. It feels like there is no going back to what was normal in 2019.

I keep coming back to the principles of "collapse now and avoid the rush" and green wizardry - low energy, locally sourced, home based business income - and finding as many kindred souls in real life to buddy up with. This is all I can do, isn't it? It's no small thing and I have some work done in this area over the past decade, but this would be a full on leap in, don't look back.

Where are you all standing these days? What are your plans for 2022?

Re: Path Forward (?)

[(Anonymous)]

Dear Mother-

it's WW3 globally against us people and so what if your daughter wants to talk about something else? what makes me lose my needles like a charlie brown christmas tree is that after us, no one young will even KNOW or remember what free time or freedom is like. there is nothing else to talk about because it's meaningless without freedom of any kind left.

as an estranged daughter who has grown up seeing my parents and others stand for their beliefs with shaky voices calm voices and violence or jail time or eradication, i am grateful for EVERYTHING i used to complain about or have self-entitled american tantrums over because i have those memories and discussions and lessons of FIGHTING back in different ways for NOW.

be a mother and don't listen to your daughter to be her "friend," because she needs the fight, how it looks, the strategies, the role playing of discussions set to derail one's mind. like i'd once said to Denis who despairs her kids don't care now, i know i didn't care, but NOW? i'm thankful for EVERYTHING because what the world considers healthy well adjust children are just... passive needy childish consumers.

they one day likely WILL get what you were on about, and even if it's "too late," it's NOT; lessons and insights hit in their own time, often years after it's too late to say thanks (we ALL know this one), and it's okay as it's a constant fight this "freedom" thang. but young women now especially NEED to see us grown up females not care about being invited back for whatever because we were nice pleasant and helped clean up afterwards like good girls.

this is it. we're UP.

xxxxxx

erika

[(Anonymous)]

You finally did it. A picture of people heading innawoods.

[(Anonymous)]

But not looking too ready for bushwhacking!

[stcathalexandria]

If you need to know what is driving the hysterical and likely much of the horrible punitive vixen mandate policies, here's where to look -

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing
https://twitter.com/ASlavitt

Their timelines are full of exponential growth predictions, calls of "we need to sound the alarm", and promises of being the smartest person in the room if you listen to them.

[weilong]

These Chicken Littles have been running around for almost two years now, telling everybody that the sky is about to fall. It amazes me that anybody is paying attention to them. On the other hand, I have met people who only know what the television told them today - no memory of yesterday. I wonder how many of them there are.

[(Anonymous)]

🇷🇺⚡Of 16 people infected with the omicron covid strain in Russia, 11 were vaccinated - head of Rospotrebnadzor Anna Popova message on telegram, vetted not anti-Russian it looks like the Russian vaccine is a bit leaky too.

[open_space]

Incompetence can seem very evil from the outside and its very easy to react to that and given their blind you look crazy. How do people here deal with incompetent people whose idiocy puts people in danger? Clearly coming from a position of opposition doesn't work because nobody that doesn't already agree with you will shove you off. Have people here found a way to take a conversation slowly that can bridge this gap? Or is it a lost cause?

[lincoln_lynx]

I tend to avoid conversations of that kind as whenever I engage in them I feel gross afterwards.

An inexpensive fix for climate change

[(Anonymous)]

It seems like Greta is getting frustrated that none of the PMC members is ready to stop their air travels and the billionaires are even less likely to give away private jets. We need to look for a new way.

MSM determined that most new heart attacks are caused by climate change. Who wants to challenge MSM supported by fact-checkers? Let us agree with them that the vaccines are totally safe, and climate change is causing all heart-related issues.

I propose removing the liability protection on the vaccines and see whether it reduces the most observable effects of climate change. This should be cost-free for everyone, because the vaccines are safe and effective.

And Birds Aren't Real, Either

[(Anonymous)]

Of course climate change causes heart attacks, especially in professional soccer players! As well as the fact that all birds in the US are surveillance drones, and real live birds haven't existed there since the 1980's: https://birdsarentreal.com/

/snark

- Cicada Grove

[spoiler: BAR is a spoof.]

Health care

[(Anonymous)]

I’m a PT currently not working due to mandates. It was stressful to stop working as I enjoyed my work, and being out of work put pressure on my husband to support our family on his income alone. But I figured this was temporary, things would shift, and I would go back to work somehow. Now I’m not sure.
Most recently I worked in a nursing home. I have worked in a hospital as well as clinics and enjoyed that, but at this point saw myself as trying to provide something positive in a less than perfect system. And where better to do that than a nursing home.
But the more time I’m away from it the more I am seeing how much negativity there is out there, also amongst healthcare workers, who were supposed to be working in their field because they are compassionate, care about others and want to help.

The more I think about it it’s not just a less than perfect system, it’s deeply flawed. I’m not sure I can go back.

I had covid early on when it spread through my nursing home. At that time little was known but I thought this time of covid would be a test for our hearts individually and collectively(my case was mild but I noticed a cardiac component - blood pressure decreased, low/high heart rate, dizzy, fatigued) and I thought it would bring truth to the surface. I think I’m seeing that more and more.

Thankful for you all and the insight you bring.

Tamar

Re: Health care

[(Anonymous)]

Tamar, Thank you for posting here.

The fact that you, a physical therapist who enjoyed her job, and who also got covid and recovered, is now out of work for refusing the jab, tells me everything I need to know about the stupidity and cruelty of the mandates.

I have no crystal ball but I would expect that within the next few months the story will be different, and if you choose, you can go back to work without a problem.

The question is, is that what you still want to do? Which of course only you can answer.

And another question is, what else are they going to try to scare us into getting a "vaccination" for? Covid may turn into old history, and quickly, but I don't think this sort of power-play will end, most especially where it has already been so successful-- where the people accept, and even champion that a health bureaucrat, or their own boss, can tell them what they have to do, wear, and inject into their body, or else. The apps on the smartphones aren't going away, either.


Fuchsia Addlepated Gila Monster

Elon Musk, Person of the Year, Radicalized by Lockdowns

[(Anonymous)]

I never thought I would live to see the day when I would take Elon Musk seriously, but the moon has just turned chartreuse today:

Elon Musk, Person of the Year, Radicalized by Lockdowns
https://brownstone.org/articles/elon-musk-person-of-the-year-radicalized-by-lockdowns/

Quotes:

Musk is arguably the most prominent opponent of lockdowns and vaccine mandates in the US. In his official interview, he refused to take back his last-year denunciation of stay-at-home orders as “fascist.”

He stepped it up even further concerning vaccine mandates. “I am against forcing people to be vaccinated, not something we should do in America.” Yes, the unvaccinated are “taking a risk, but people do risky things all the time. I believe we’ve got to watch out for the erosion of freedom in America.” ...

What’s surprising is that someone so rich, so influential, so decisive to our present economic lives, would actually say openly what everyone knows. It’s highly unusual, especially these days. Musk is now America’s most honest plutocrat. He is beyond being controlled or contrite at this point. In that way he is a very dangerous man, in the best possible way we can use that term. He had better watch his back.

In the same context, he presented the traditional view of the state that emerged out of the enlightenment and which, in many ways, served as a foundational principle of the American revolution: “The government is simply the biggest corporation, with a monopoly on violence and where you have no recourse.”

Will wonders never cease ... ?

Michael Martin

Re: Elon Musk, Person of the Year, Radicalized by Lockdowns

[(Anonymous)]

I have long thought privately that the narrative would begin to crumble in earnest when a prophet of Progress broke ranks, and that Elon Musk was the most likely candidate. The cracks in the dam are growing...

Mark L

Record Scratch Radio

[(Anonymous)]

okay, James and i have confirmed our meeting with the KPOO station manager tomorrow at noon. if you remember around that time (pacific fillmore time), send good juju. i'm HELLA nervous, so nervous i'm sick, and James is super cool cowboy chill.

i just washed and combed my hair in the bath and polished my silver hoops, which are like my spurs. but we'll ride our bicycles across town and i'll end up looking homeless anyhow, whether it rains on us or not, but i'll FEEL solid inside (smile). and i'll have my KITTEN LOPEZ hi viz riding vest on.

i'll report back tomorrow if i make it home and lightning doesn't strike me or something weird happens. there's nowhere to go and celebrate because we're not allowed inside anywhere.

(giggle)

we've got our work cut out for us!

x

erika

Re: Record Scratch Radio

[inavalon]

Fly like the wind dear erika!

There really is no time or space where juju moves so I am sending it right now.

Whoosh! to Kitten Lopez.

Stress Relief

[(Anonymous)]

https://goodmorningkitten.com/kitten/5007/

—- Princess Cutekitten

[(Anonymous)]

Here's my impression on the "bad energy situation" lately: The seasonal month of Scorpio started off as an icky-blechh storm, but I sensed a definite improvement with the start of the seasonal month of Sagittarius (week of Thanksgravy Day). Could that old "Xmas spirit" be putting a damper on the corona-hysteria?

I might be left out of Xmas in the Hometown this year because I am refusing the jab. That rather predisposes me to think of Hometown Xmas as something it's time to put to bed anyway on account of the fact that I'm in my fifties now and what meaning this time of year has for me lies in the fact that it's the darkest time of the year, and not much else. Summer Solstice time has a similar significance to me on account of being the lightest part of the year.

I've got it!

[(Anonymous)]

Well I have COVID. I woke up Sunday with a temperature. Called off work Monday and took a home test which was positive. I made an appointment at a clinic to take another test, as I've heard the home tests can get more false-positives/false-negatives. I will be off work for 10 days.

So far, it's not different from the normal flu. Temperature runs from the 99's up to 100.6 (highest so far). A mild cough, and today I developed some congestion.

I sent out an email to family members who are starting to write back "So Sorry!" "Oh yikes!" I told them it's not too bad, but some of them always think the worst. I'm tired now, most of the afternoon I was on the phone talking. Probably drove my temperature up! I'm taking Oscillococcinum, a homeopathic med for flu symptoms. Here's hoping I get over this quickly!

Prayers are welcome!

Joy Marie

Re: I've got it!

[(Anonymous)]

I like Vitamin C and Vitamin D to help the immune system, and I've heard that zinc hinders the virus from replicating. Maybe an aspirin from time to time versus blood clots.
If you get a cough and have a hot steam vaporizer, that can be very helpful, especially with a capful of Vicks Vaposteam in the water. Put it in your bedroom with the door closed and just breathe the moist air.

Best wishes for a speedy recovery!

Meanwhile in the UK...

[(Anonymous)]

...the government passes additional restrictions, in the form of rather modest (by comparison to mainland Europe) screenings for large venues and events. And even that caused well over a quarter of the Tories to vote against their own government. The motion passed anyway due to Labour's support:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/14/covid-plan-b-mps-back-tougher-rules-face-masks-england-omicron

I increasingly have a feeling that all that the vilification of the anti-lockdown and anti-vaccine crowd achieved politically, was to create the next election's kingmakers.

Migrant Worker

[(Anonymous)]

Anyone have any thoughts on saying something before meeting with vexxed friends when you're nonvexxed? In NSW Australia our restrictions are lifted today and I'd like to catch up with people I've not seen in six months of "lockdown" (which has been a boon for inner work and self-reliance). I'd presume just about everyone I know is vexxed, Half of me goes "why not tell them first" and another part goes "it's not their business". Tell them anyway and if they shrug off then that's what's meant to be?

[(Anonymous)]

In NSW too, I think it's important to tell them of they ask, for the same reason others have said regarding mass formation and ensuring that the demonising doesn't become actual violence. I've told my friends when asked, there were a few raised eye brows but generally accepted. They may think I'm a crazy person, but I'm still their friend and they take me as I am. It's best to work from paradigms rather than data in my experience. Say something like you follow more of a Chinese style of medicine or holistic systems thinking etc, saves you having to argue studies and the like. If you can't even talk the same language, the argument gets left at the door.

[(Anonymous)]

This

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/12/where-i-live-no-one-cares-about-covid/620958/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

appeared in PMC publication The Atlantic. Shifting winds?

—Princess Cutekitten

[ari_ormstunga]

Apparently twitter is in a bit of an uproar over this, and people are threatening to cancel their subscriptions to the Atlantic as a result of the article.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2021/12/14/the-atlantics-covid-article-that-drove-libs-insane-and-caused-many-to-cancel-their-subscriptions-n2600571

As a southwest Michigan resident, I can confirm the truth of this article. Most of us don't care. When we see how people in the PMC urban areas are acting, it just looks like insanity. Even my family, unfortunately vaxxed and boosted narrative clingers, don't really behave any differently than they used to and never wear masks except on the rare occasions they are required, like at the doctor's office.