The Wealth of Nature
Nov. 11th, 2021 01:46 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)

As for The Wealth of Nature itself, here's the blurb:
"The Wealth of Nature proposes a new model of economics based on the integral value of ecology. Building on the foundations of E.F. Schumacher's revolutionary "economics as if people mattered", this book examines the true cost of confusing money with wealth. By analyzing the mistakes of contemporary economics, it shows how an economy centered on natural capital—the ecological cycles that support human life—can move our society toward a more productive relationship with the planet that sustains us all. Profoundly insightful and impeccably argued, this book is required reading for anyone interested in the intersection of the environment and the economy as we enter the twilight of the Age of Abundance."
As the Age of Abundance vanishes in the rearview mirror, and the Age of Empty Store Shelves replaces it, this book seems morre than usually relevant!
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Date: 2021-11-11 07:01 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2021-11-11 09:22 pm (UTC)So, I suppose I'm in the awkward position of thanking you for scaring me silly. Thanks for writing this and getting a new edition out!
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Date: 2021-11-11 10:20 pm (UTC)Congratulations on the Publication!
Date: 2021-11-11 11:45 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2021-11-12 12:01 am (UTC)Delays and shortages
Date: 2021-11-12 12:31 am (UTC)I bought this a few years ago and really enjoyed it. I have two questions. One, what has changed from the previous edition? Two, can you talk about the delays and shortages from an ecosophian perspective?
Thanks,
Tim
Re: Delays and shortages
Date: 2021-11-12 03:56 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2021-11-12 12:57 am (UTC)Say - speaking of economics, are you still collecting reports from the field on current conditions?
Rhydlyd
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Date: 2021-11-12 03:56 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2021-11-12 02:47 pm (UTC)One of my favorite character! She was very "Lovecraftian."
AV
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Date: 2021-11-12 12:03 pm (UTC)Our Finite World
Date: 2021-11-12 12:55 pm (UTC)Gail Tverberg latest from Nov. 10
https://ourfiniteworld.com/2021/11/10/our-fossil-fuel-energy-predicament-including-why-the-correct-story-is-rarely-told/
The transcript of the entire talk by Rear Admiral Hyman Rickover given in 1957.
https://ourfiniteworld.com/2007/07/02/speech-from-1957-predicting-peak-oil/
Gail's talk in PDF to share if inclined.
https://ourfiniteworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Gail-Tverberg-Our-Fossil-Fuel-Energy-Predicament-Nov-9.pdf
Looking forward to re-reading it
Date: 2021-11-12 01:04 pm (UTC)was told there was a delay
Date: 2021-11-12 04:07 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2021-11-12 05:02 pm (UTC)The Wealth of Nature
Date: 2021-11-12 08:12 pm (UTC)Some things have changed since the book was published, in 2011. The problem of peak oil was delayed by fracking, although we could have a debate about the way the price of oil was kept low by creative accounting in the fracking industry. Hmm. Who will pay for that in the long run, as those companies go bankrupt? Then, the fall in the cost of renewable electricity has changed the energy landscape.
A second unexpected change is Modern Monetary Theory, which looks at debt in a different light.
These changes do not change the thought provokingness of the text. I wonder what will happen next. And fuck Milton Friedman
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Date: 2021-11-12 09:15 pm (UTC)As you often say, many thanks for this.
I already own a copy of *The Wealth of Nature*, the one with the 'natural abacus' on the front cover. Is this effectively a reprint of that book, or something akin to a second edition with new material?
I may wind up buying the book again anyway, because it's a worthwhile thing to give away often to people who will read it. But it would be good to know if I should read the old or new copy before I go passing it on.
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Date: 2021-11-13 07:06 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2021-11-13 05:56 pm (UTC)Data point from Florida: Governor de Santis and Texas governor Greg Abbott are thinking of a presidential run, and if you believe the 3-page article in the Gainesville Sun (forthcoming as soon as I have time to get it in the mail with my hastily scribbled notes), both have been reduced to what's as easily recognizable as the mandatory boilerplate of the right, as the boilerplate of the left we're all fed up with. I don't think there will be any more surprises coming from our governor, who, IIRC, once specialized in them. Most of it is Culture Wars & mask mandates, making it harder to vote in states that carried Trump by a near-landslide (then, why?) and unneeded election audits backed by a threat from a Trump supporter to run against DeSantis if he didn't comply...and of course, a large helping of Border Wall and cracking down on the border. Which seems to be independent of its effects on American workers, from the rhetoric or lack thereof, because the country club Republicans seems to be backing it as well. Or at least, nobody is talking about the wage classes in all this.
Just my $0.02, but the thin veneer of BUI on both sides of the fence feels toxic and slimy as well as thin.
Mint (mint-green) Slithy Cow.
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Date: 2021-11-13 07:07 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2021-11-13 08:35 pm (UTC)In fact, while sitting around having coffee/tea this morning, the family and I got onto the subject of the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics - wonder where that idea came from??
Congrats on the re-release!
Grover
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Date: 2021-11-14 01:12 am (UTC)Off topic but introduced above...
I have an extra copy
Date: 2021-11-15 01:44 am (UTC)Otherwise, I will keep it until a good opportunity to gift it arises.
- Cicada Grove