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support groupThe semi-open posts  I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a gargantuan (and increasing) number of comments, so I'm opening another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 

3. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion. 

Re: Another wrong kind of breakthrough

Date: 2021-09-15 02:16 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
But despite being "legally distinct", they are "chemically identical". The entire thing makes my head hurt...

Re: Another wrong kind of breakthrough

Date: 2021-09-15 02:34 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Yup.

What both of you said.

Here's the letter to Pfizer informing them their stuff is still under EUA:

1) https://www.fda.gov/media/150386/download

And here are the letters to BioNTech giving them the happy news:

2) https://www.fda.gov/media/151733/download
3) https://www.fda.gov/media/151710/download

The relevant parts of Letter # 1 are:
Page 2, first, second and third paragraphs, and Footnote 8
Page 5, Footnote 9

So to recap, the FDA, which is a USA organization, approved the flavor of shot made by BioNTech, a European company, which distributes it in Europe; and left the flavor made by Pfizer, a US company, to continue under the EUA, NOT approved. But BioNTech's flavor is allowed to fly under the EUA also.

:P

- Cicada Grove

Re: Another wrong kind of breakthrough

Date: 2021-09-15 02:58 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Its a branding thing. Comimity was the name tacked onto it when it was approved.

rabtter

Re: Another wrong kind of breakthrough

Date: 2021-09-15 01:40 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
But has this ever been done before?

Re: Another wrong kind of breakthrough

Date: 2021-09-16 11:18 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
All the time. Branding is an industry whose practioners manufacture demand. As for the vaccine FDA describes it thus,

"Today, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration approved the first COVID-19 vaccine. The vaccine has been known as the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, and will now be marketed as Comirnaty (koe-mir’-na-tee), for the prevention of COVID-19 disease in individuals 16 years of age and older. The vaccine also continues to be available under emergency use authorization (EUA), including for individuals 12 through 15 years of age and for the administration of a third dose in certain immunocompromised individuals."

Doses for booster and those under the age of 16 still fall under the EUA.


https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-approves-first-covid-19-vaccine

rabtter

Re: Another wrong kind of breakthrough

Date: 2021-09-16 11:25 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
And I should of wrote ages 12-15 fall under the EUA instead of under 16, 12-15 is under 16 but so is 0-11 which is outside the EUA.


rabtter

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