Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 194

[ecosophia]

We are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; public health authorities government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.

5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

6. Please don't just post bare links without explanation. A sentence or two telling readers what's on the other side of the link is a reasonable courtesy, and if you don't include it, your attempted post will be deleted.

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion. 

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, the NY Times seems to be what Moses brought down from Mt. Sinai. (At least for the PMC crowd I used to hang out with.)

Just today, I got a few belly laughs from reading Matt Taibbi's mockery of David Brooks ("priest of the elites") for calling for a mass movement to oppose Trump. And then, later today,when casually taking the temperature of a local TDS-infested list-serve, someone quoted the same article glowingly, without a trace of irony.

Thanks to JMG, this makes perfect sense to me now-- any self-described expert is massively threatened by Trump's rejection of standard "expert" opinion.

*Ochre Harebrained Curmudgeon*

Re: St. Malachy’s Prophecy

[(Anonymous)]

When I learned of the Pope's death, I looked at his natal chart and saw a debilitated Uranus in his tenth house ruling his eighth house. It makes sense that an new insufficiently tested treatment that he publically promoted would be Pope Francis' undoing.

Re: St. Malachy’s Prophecy

[(Anonymous)]

Well written and he made his case well. The pope died from vaxx injury.

Re: Long Covid?

[the_arcane_archivist]

On FB a FB friend announced that after much testing she had been diagnosed with Long Covid which she developed in 2021 the same year she got the covid vaxx. She had caught covid in 2020, recovered and still wanted the vaxx. Such is the power of propaganda.


The fact that this people are caught in this social media tells a lot. At least of 51% of traffic on Internet are now Bots:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofWmufzwUNo

The power of propaganda is now: bots, how can you fight that unless you get out, Matrix has become reality. Also in the movie script initially humans were processing information for the AI, and afterwards they simplified the script and made them batteries because they taught the idea of processing information was too difficult for the moviegoers.

[(Anonymous)]

And when they return to service, they will still have to take all of the other injections that military personnel are required to take.

Re: Long Covid?

[(Anonymous)]

The "long covid" narrative was already in place by mid 2020. I think it was made up in anticipation of the vaccine injuries. It had also become blindingly obvious by late 2020 that covid didn't have a high fatality rate, so again the "long covid" narrative became useful as a way to continue the fear around the virus. I vaguely remember one of the chief health officers here in Oz using the fear of long covid to justify the ongoing lockdowns at about this time.

The perfect cover story indeed.

Re: Lupron

[(Anonymous)]

Lupron was originally developed for prostrate cancer, then it got repurposed as a chemical castration drug for sex offenders. It was also used to stop precocious puberty but only for a 6 month period iirc, as it was recognised to be dangerous for longer term use. However with the advent of 'gender affirming care' all caution was thrown to the wind and it's now used recklessly and for cosmetic reasons, followed up by cross sex hormones.

It reduces testosterone levels and I am not against it being trialled on autistic kids as long as the necessary safeguards are in place. The main thing is that they are offering hope to the parents and kids and not accepting the epidemic of autism as some kind of normal. It's not.

Re: Lupron

[thinking_turtle]

If history is a guide, vaccines will go away when everyone including officials start to ignore them. Not as a result of an official investigation, a lawsuit, a vote, etc.

Thanks for your reply with book details last week.

Re: Slow drivers

[earthworm_uk]

Been driving since late 70’s and whilst the volume of traffic is now much greater and there have always been stupidities, it seemed as though there was a step-change once people came back out onto the roads en masse (2022?). To begin we wondered if folks had ‘forgotten’ road skills but it has not improved, if anything it seems worse now.
There is something more going on.
Multiple potential causes come to mind but the level of dithering at mini-islands without lights but based on filtering is up massively. Stuck behind watching three vehicles at a mini island all stopped and looking at each other waiting for someone else to do something, travelling at 25-30mph on roads with 50 or 60mph limits, turning right (cutting across traffic on 50mph road) at maybe 2mph, and I do mean slow walking speed turning onto a side road.

To begin we thought phones or booze or drugs (prescribed or illicit) or something, and we started paying attention to the drivers. No pattern in terms of ages (young/old) or sex (female/male) the behaviour is across the board.

Not only do people seem to be taking much longer to make decisions and act, they are making increasingly poor decisions… one of the best just recently was being behind a learner driver on the main road passing a cross roads junction (no lights). Vehicles on side road give way until clear and then can join carriageway. As the learner reached the junction, the waiting vehicle started to pull out slowly (fortunately); the learner had to swerve and crossed the central line. I got a good look at the driver as I passed – 30s, face completely impassive and even some seconds after I had passed they were still sitting halfway out of the junction (there had been no vehicles behind me).

Something is affecting the functioning of people’s minds and multiple factors could be in play – we don’t think so much now on ‘what’ could be the cause[s] and we’ve gone way beyond defensive driving – it’s got so bad we joke along the lines of an old TV series “Be careful out there”

Whether it is individual or cumulative damage from injections, solar storms, emf, pollution or ultra-processed food, anxiety, worries, tensions, prescription drugs, internet/tv media or whatever, I really can’t say; but cognitive function and decision-making appears to have declined.

And just to confound matters, another thing we’re seeing is more aggressive driving – cities are always a pig for that, but locally has tended to be more relaxed, but seeing more lack of consideration which had, until 2021 been noticeable here.

Question now is whether that decline stabilises or deteriorates further.
If 2020 thru 2024 was Act 1, there is a nagging feeling that Act 2 is going to be a doozy!
Re-reading that list of potential causes gave me pause - just another symptom of stuff coming down the planes while basically, the way of life in what passes for our current society is pretty toxic. Happy days ;)

edited to add:
One more thing – the last year or so, for no apparent reason, there has been a rash of 20mph zones appearing (previously 30mph); nothing quite like following someone down a 1 in 10 hill at 15mph… Perhaps it was uncharitable of me, but my thinking then was “You don’t need a car you need a mobility scooter.”

Article by Abi Roberts

[(Anonymous)]

I present to you a recap of the years 2020-2022 by comedian Abi Roberts magnificently entitled "I can always lose weight, but you'll always be a bootlicking c*unt": https://abiroberts.substack.com/p/i-can-always-lose-weight-but-youll

"My first taste of the COVID-sponsored media came not long afterwards on Easter Monday 2021, when I debated Edwina Currie on Good Morning Britain. I’d never done anything remotely like it. Currie was all for domestic COVID vaccine passports, and I was very much against. Little did I realise that I had entered the Kate Garraway, Branch Covidian circle, and along with her fellow presenter, Edwina and the resident ‘doctor’, Amir Khan, I was kebabbed. Apparently saying things like ‘we don’t want to live in a Soviet papers-please-society and segregate others for choosing not to have a state-sanctioned injection’ made me the crazy one. The comments under the article in The Express the next day ranged from calling me mad; a Covid denier; an anti-vaxxer; thick; embarrassing; and fat. So I replied: I can always lose weight, but you’ll still be a bootlicking c*nt."

Negative Religious Exemption

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know what to call this except a "negative religious exemption" in which you are freed from carrying out a mandate to do something that does not belong to your religion. For example, if you could have demonstrated that vaccines belong to the religion of progress, could you be exempted by merely stating you do not believe in this god? Do 'negative religious exemptions' have any legal basis?

Bob Moran's latest "Francis bakin"

[(Anonymous)]

Bob Moran's latest: https://www.bobmoran.co.uk/cartoons-2025/francis-bakin-original-artwork

A wag on twitter suggests that is Klaus Schwab behind the wheel. What do you think?

[(Anonymous)]

CDC weighing end to universal COVID vaccine recommendations

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cdc-covid-vaccine-recommendations-advisers/

from april 15 but ive only seen it now

[(Anonymous)]

Davos Tyrant Falls from Grace as WEF Turns on Its Creator — Klaus Schwab Under Internal Investigation Following Whistleblower Allegations of Financial and Ethical Misconduct

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/04/davos-tyrant-falls-grace-as-wef-turns-its/

i didnt expect that.. usually these 'elites' back
each other up..

Researching DMSO and Chlorine Dioxide

[(Anonymous)]

Hi. Apologies if this question has been asked many times before. I've been a long news/blogs fast.

Could someone please direct me to good websites talking about the uses/benefits/sources of DMSO and Chlorine Dioxide?

Thanks.

Re: Slow drivers

[slclaire]

That's what I notice here - more people than ever driving not just too fast, but more dangerously. Passing on a yellow line in the middle of a blind curve, such that I no longer drive on that particular road. Using left turn lanes as passing lanes to pass cars, like my own, who are driving at the speed limit. Not stopping at stop signs or stop lights. A higher fraction of cars speeding on the interstates and on local roads alike.

[(Anonymous)]

not covid but i believe its relevant

FDA to Ban Artificial Food Dyes Linked to Disease

https://gatewayhispanic.com/video/fda-to-ban-artificial-food-dyes-linked-to-disease/

and here is a short clip of rfkjr:

robertkennedyjr
: "A teenager today, an American teenager, has less testosterone than a 68-year-old man."

https://x.com/GuntherEagleman/status/1914839820943184272#m

[(Anonymous)]

It could be! Hellarious cartoon. 🙏😂🙏

Pope Francis on jabs -- and the result

[(Anonymous)]

So much for papal infallibility....

Re: Lupron

[scotlyn]

My major problem with what I read of Geier's papers is that their approach relied on the same trickery as using statins to reduce cholesterol measurements (based on the belief this may reduce heart disease incidence). . Testosterone levels are not a disease, they are a marker. Their idea was "mess with the marker and MAYBE this affects the disease." To me this logic is exactly the same as using white face makeup to alter the redness of a face, in the hope that reducing the redness will affect the physical condition causing the redness.

[(Anonymous)]

Britain to approve £50m Sun-dimming experiments in bid to prevent runaway climate change

https://www.gbnews.com/science/science-news-latest-britain-approve-sun-dimming-experiments-climate-change

they want us all sick..

Re: Negative Religious Exemption

[(Anonymous)]

"Religion of progress" is the state religion, and the only way out is excommunication. Also, they will burn your career at the stake, and the technical term for that is cancellation.

[(Anonymous)]

What if it is because they found a younger and meaner tyrant? Maybe Klaus did not want to go to the extreme, and that caused his downfall.

Re: Negative Religious Exemption

[scotlyn]

"For example, if you could have demonstrated that vaccines belong to the religion of progress, could you be exempted by merely stating you do not believe in this god?"

Indeed, I have mentioned here once or twice that I am waiting for people to take up THIS type of "exemption". A sort of "No, I decline to join your cult" sort of argument.

I don't know if it rates as a negative exemption, but it places the burden of demonstrating that it is NOT "religious" back upon those who are so vexed and perturbed by any manifestation of doubt, hesitancy, non-compliance with regards to their revered pharmaceutical miraculous vial.

[(Anonymous)]

That's likely a safe assumption...

Ron M