Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 179

[ecosophia]

We are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; public health authorities government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.

5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

6. Please don't just post bare links without explanation. A sentence or two telling readers what's on the other side of the link is a reasonable courtesy, and if you don't include it, your attempted post will be deleted.

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

UK is the worst at this type of black magic, I kindly ask our host to forgive me putting it that bluntly, but this is black magic propaganda war. How do we know there are hundreds of labs that maybe doing that kind of thing in worse conditions?

https://english.news.cn/20220319/5a058ca0cdd54fc193a7cdbabb472953/c.html

Looks like fingerpointing again

[escorcher]

Maybe a little finger pointing but she's up to her neck in it!

However if we read the affiliation list from the Nature paper so are universities in Seattle and Switzerland. So yeah, it's not just an 'isolated' China.
The 'Nature' paper :

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-08121-5

'Design of customized coronavirus receptors'

Imho none of this so called research should be going on anywhere but it looks like humans just can't stop themselves. It's certainly dark but not so sure about the black magic bit.

[(Anonymous)]

I think there is a hybrid war between this two blocks, in all the realms geophysical, physical, mental, magical... It is an existential struggle and one of the block will not survive. I think is that bad!

[escorcher]

Interesting. How do you define the 'two blocks'?

For instance JMG talks about a Faustian culture emerging around 1000CE that underpins countries in Western Europe (and beyond). Is this one of the 'blocks'? (More explanation on this idea here:
https://www.ecosophia.net/america-and-russia-part-two-the-far-side-of-progress/ )

[(Anonymous)]

One block is the European + Common Wealth + US against the other block BRICS.

My take is that the BRICS block has good chances since it learn from paste defeats, China and India in the 19th century, Russia and Iran in the 20th Century, they transformed their countries. Europe lacks virility, chi...

[escorcher]

Ok, so broadly Faustian Vs the rest. Yeah, well one culture is on the way out but the others are not that united and have differences. It's probably a long game but in essence I'm not disagreeing with you. It's just probably not quite so immediate and delineated. That series of JMG posts (where I linked to the second post in the series in the last comment) is worth a read.

[(Anonymous)]

China looks pretty Faustian to me, look a them their dream is to be Singapore.

[escorcher]

Yes it does, on the surface. It explains why China has partnered up with US and European interests in the mucking (I wanted to put an f in there but held back) around with viruses. But, don't you think China is likely to fall back to it's more cyclic roots when the idea of material progress gets challenged enough? They have never truly wholesale bought in to the capitalist dream - ever wondered why?

[(Anonymous)]

Totally agree with this take