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MOFAWe are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; public health authorities government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Re: VIM

Date: 2024-08-21 02:30 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The logic behind this is: they demonize it in order to make you trust it- it's a trap!

I've had the feeling for a little while now that Dr Yeadon, who has done stalwart work in warning people over a harrowing few years, has started to tip into a degree of paranoia, suspecting, well, simply everything.

He seems very tired,is perhaps on the brink of despair due to a lack of public response and understanding, and responded very strangely to me with zero facts when I asked a very straightforward question a few months ago.

The strain of fighting a rather lonely battle?

Re: VIM

Date: 2024-08-21 05:18 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] temporaryreality
Off topic from the VIM propaganda, but related(ish) to Yeadon doing a weird about face and spouting nonsense, has anyone kept tabs on what's happening with Dr. Mercola? He's not someone I've paid much attention to, but this caught my eye:

https://www.naturalproductsinsider.com/market-trends-analysis/dr-mercola-consulted-with-psychic-before-axing-top-executives

https://www.nvic.org/newsletter/may-2024/defending-freedom-of-religion

and more about the channeler of the entity if you can stomach it: https://vivayalive.com/guides/5408/kai-clay

Good grief.

Re: VIM

Date: 2024-08-21 11:42 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] stubborn_ass
2 points to make...

1 - I've seen a number of YT channels where folks talk to channellers or people show themselves channelling. On the surface level, the message tends to be enchanting and mesmerizing.. oh if only life could be like that. I can't remember if it was on one of the weekly threads here or the main blog, where we discussed how it was a bad idea in general to be doing that and all the myriad reasons.. however that doesn't reduce the seductiveness of such messages. At one point, they even froze Mercola's bank accounts, including that of his company so that he had problems even paying his employees. Imagine the stress that put him under, as it's a tactic that's been used against a number of real freedom activists all over (e.g. Canadian truckers). It's much easier to fall prey to such channellers then, as one is desperately searching for answers, any answers.

When I watch such videos over the course of a few months, I get a sense of slight unease, that there's something slightly off, but can't pinpoint exactly what it is. Then another major happening occurs, e.g. start of the Ukraine war, and those channelers would make a few snide comments and it would be pretty much a close echo of western MSM narratives. If they were truly enlightened, they would see through all the obvious lies and propaganda. Upon some reflection, most of those popular channelers had also studiously avoided talking about the coof. Sure they may have wanted to avoid being demonetized or shadow-banned on YT, but now I bet if they had done so, they would have shown their real colors much earlier.

2 - I've been quietly advising folks in my freedom group to stop posting or comment on social media for 3+ months now. I just had the gut sense that the system will lash out in unpredictable ways in it's last throes, even when one thinks they are a low-value target for the system. At this point, you can't convince a normie to start awakening and detoxing, if they haven't already begun the process on their own. So self-protection requires extreme prudence in any social media postings. With what is happening to certain 'freedom' activist folks and their 180 degree turn, it has too many shades to MK Ultra... you'd think, why would the system bother at this point? But we're no longer dealing with a rational system, looking to use its system-control resources efficiently... hence, we can still read those social media posts (e.g. yet another unusual died suddenly), but refrain from giving them a convenient target as much as possible at this time.

Re: VIM

Date: 2024-08-25 01:56 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hi Stubborn,

Speaking to your second point— I wholly agree. I was going to write a longer note on this, but this news suffices:

Telegram CEO Pavel Durov, was arrested at an airport near Paris
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/elon-musk-on-telegram-founder-pavel-durov-s-arrest-executed-for-liking-a-meme/ar-AA1pnqB8

Telegram has a lot of vaccine injury and other counter-covid-narrative posts. But I never signed up for telegram because it requires a telephone number. Not handing that over, no way.

In general, my gut sense for a while now has been to stay wide away from Big Tech social media. Social media isn't one size fits all, though. For some, some of these platforms may make sense, I get that. For me they definitely do not. I've had a bad feeling about them for a long while now. And it seems we're headed into some very strange waters.

Cetiosaurus

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