Magic Monday
Aug. 27th, 2023 11:11 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ecosophia
It's nearly midnight, so we can proceed with a new Magic Monday. Ask me anything about occultism and I'll do my best to answer it. With certain exceptions, any question received by midnight Monday Eastern time will get an answer. Please note: Any question or comment received after then will not get an answer, and in fact will just be deleted. (I've been getting an increasing number of people trying to post after these are closed, so will have to draw a harder line than before.) If you're in a hurry, or suspect you may be the 143,916th person to ask a question, please check out the very rough version 1.0 of The Magic Monday FAQ here. Also: I will not be putting through or answering any more questions about practicing magic around children. I've answered those in simple declarative sentences in the FAQ. If you read the FAQ and don't think your question has been answered, read it again. If that doesn't help, consider remedial reading classes; yes, it really is as simple and straightforward as the FAQ says. The picture? I've been tracing my lineages back as far as I can, and last week took my Martinist lineage back as far as they can be documented. The next step -- and it's the last step in the entire process -- involves a fair bit of speculation, but it's speculation backed up by some evidence. It's been suggested by some historians, Marsha Keith Schuchard foremost among them, that the mysterious Knight of the Red Feather who conferred the Templar lineage on Baron von Hund, last week's honoree, was none other than Charles Stuart, the Bonnie Prince Charlie of Scottish song and story. The claim is that in the years immediately before 1745, when the House of Stuart made its last (and disastrously unsuccessful) attempt to reclaim the British throne, Charles and his inner circle of supporters used various forms of clandestine Freemasonry to raise funds, engage in espionage, and gather arms and supporters for the planned rising. Baron von Hund's initiation was an incident in that process. Martinez de Pasqually, who was honored a couple of weeks back, also claimed to have a charter signed by Charles Stuart as the basis for his occult Masonic order. So it's possible that what lies behind one of the great traditions of Western occultism is a failed political intrigue that got picked up and repurposed by a couple of canny occultists. Stranger things have happened in the history of occultism.
...And with this, the rambling tale of the odd lineages that I've inherited comes to an end. Now I'll have to think of something else to use as illustrations to Magic Mondays!
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Date: 2023-08-28 05:29 pm (UTC)2) It really depends on circumstances. If the people involved still have karma to work out with each other, they may be born in a situation in which they will be in contact, though very often it's not a matter of marriage -- husband and wife in one life may be daughter and father in the next, and teacher and student in the life after that. If the two people have finished up the karma between them by the time the marriage ends, then most likely they won't see each other again; you can often tell that this is going to happen because they're pretty much indifferent to each other, or connected by a mild sort of affection or dislike, by the time things wind up.
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Date: 2023-08-28 05:31 pm (UTC)Re: CosDoc and Divination
Date: 2023-08-28 05:32 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2023-08-28 05:32 pm (UTC)—Princess Cutekitten
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Date: 2023-08-28 05:34 pm (UTC)Re: Practical Sacred Geometry
Date: 2023-08-28 05:37 pm (UTC)Re: Ecosophia Prayer List Week of August 28
Date: 2023-08-28 05:37 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2023-08-28 05:41 pm (UTC)On 4), wild speculation here, but I do know that when coffee was first being spread through the Islamic world, there were theological debates about its suitability, since it clearly changed how you felt, but in a way very different from alcohol. Obviously they went for it in a big way. Since much of western alchemy has roots in the Middle East, maybe that's a direction to look for discussions of coffee? From a more American (and negative) viewpoint, of course, the Mormons came to the opposite conclusion, and I assume there's some discussion of what they believe the spiritual downsides there to be.
Good luck on all fronts!
Jeff
Re: GSF SOP
Date: 2023-08-28 05:45 pm (UTC)2) That's also grammar.
3) I don't recommend it, since you're calling on your own energies and your own spirit at that step.
4) Hm! I wonder how on earth that slipped through.
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Date: 2023-08-28 05:47 pm (UTC)2) Dream interpretation isn't one of my skills, but in your place I'd just consider that a strange dream and go on.
Progressed Chart Astrological Magic
Date: 2023-08-28 05:48 pm (UTC)Also, in general, is the natal chart or the progressed chart a more significant force in one's daily life?
Re: Healing unintentionally
Date: 2023-08-28 05:50 pm (UTC)Re: Natal chart privacy
Date: 2023-08-28 05:51 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2023-08-28 05:52 pm (UTC)Re: C19 re-hysteria, mercury retrograd
Date: 2023-08-28 05:53 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2023-08-28 05:54 pm (UTC)Re: GSF SOP
Date: 2023-08-28 05:56 pm (UTC)3) Gotcha. So if somebody was working with the seven planets e.g. in daily planetary worship, and wanted to include them in the SOP, how could they go about it?
Call on two of the planets at some point in the process? Or call on one planet in the opening, the other six later? Or how else?
4) And here I was worried I had publically ruined one of your special learning effects for students... :D
Milkyway
Storied Meditations
Date: 2023-08-28 06:05 pm (UTC)This morning I decided to try a little something different, a visualization technique which I had read about but not done much with, in my meditation. What happened was after waking up this morning I was experimenting with projecting images on a screen with my inner vision.
The bright colors, dynamic scenery and people, and relative ease of seeing all of this was pretty encouraging. So during meditation I began projecting the theme onto the screen. There was little expectation as to what would appear, I just witnessed what was showing up. The quality was lacking in color and light but there were images and objects.
One of these images in particular was a great illustration of the theme! Not directly but certainly symbolically. I then used that image as a way to understand the theme. Up to this point I had found the experience quite a lot of fun.
The next part though really got my attention. I was inspired to, I don't know how to say this but, allow a story to unfold in the image. At which point the image became a scene where things were happening.
As the story unfolded I was able to get a deeper meaning out of the image. While I did ask questions it seemed witnessing the story was all that was needed to gather the meaning.
Feels like a there might be a door or two to go through and explore! Would I be too far off to think there are a few fun possibilities to experiment with here?
Thanks,
Eric
Re: Bach Flower Remedies
Date: 2023-08-28 06:10 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2023-08-28 06:11 pm (UTC)If I remember correctly my reasoning went:
-Investment in modern times is not deciding to hitch your pony to a person or company you believe in, instead (for most people) it is lending money at interest, or usury, at best, and gambling at worst; and that shift becomes even more stark because we are forced by multiple retirement systems to put portions of our money into investment instruments (401k, etc.) that are supposed to support us when we are too old to work, or just decide that leisure is more fun than work.
-There are roles for elders to be productive without heavy labor (childcare, teaching, storytelling, cooking, among many many others.)
With retirement accounts, elders don't have to be elders and they don't "need" their children, allowing for further destruction of family units and further fractioning along political, religious, and other lines.
-Retirement and other forms of investment/usury allow for a false sense of self-sufficiency (when the sufficiency is actually produced by others obfuscated by many financial layers.) That sense also leads to delusions of grandeur, selfishness, and fractioning of families and society.
-When you have entire classes of people reliant on investment income to live, companies can morally justify profit seeking over the safety and well-being of their workers and customers. (If profits aren't at 10% or higher, the granparents won't eat next year!)
-Workplaces can doubly be more heartless and exploitative with their workers, and not have pushback, because those workers are promised that it will only last till they are 50/65 when they can retire and get all the rest they were denied for 40 years.
It went other places from there, but that's the gist. I imagine one of the turning points in Usury being a topic to it being sacrosanct was the implementation of social security and other mandatory retirement plans that made every citizen culpable for a form of usury.
Re: Druid Magic Handbook vs Dolmen Arch
Date: 2023-08-28 06:13 pm (UTC)Re: GSF SOP
Date: 2023-08-28 06:14 pm (UTC)Re: Natal chart privacy
Date: 2023-08-28 06:15 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2023-08-28 06:17 pm (UTC)I have two questions for you this week.
1. The planetary tides are usually tracked by the planetary hours of traditional astrology. Is there a similar means or system to track the elemental tides, allowing one to determine which of the four elements prevails at any given moment?
2. The LBRP is used to trace a protective circle around the magician. In this connection, many authors give a word of caution to the magician, saying that they are not to cross the bounds of the circle at the risk of weakening their own belief in its reality. My question is: what is the magician supposed to do at the end of a ritual, as leaving the ritual space will necessarily entail the crossing of the circle?
Thank you as ever for your anwers!
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Date: 2023-08-28 06:19 pm (UTC)