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Date: 2023-07-03 10:20 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jeremys
Dear John Michael Greer,

It seems most magic/ritual practices these days use either The Golden Dawn or Wicca as their foundation. This is hard for me to fully grasp, that a group in 1 country that broke up over 100 years ago, that only lasted a 2-3 decades, during a time so different from our own, still holds such a foundational purpose for so much, instead of just being one of many groups that passed through history. You do a great job explaining this in the Introduction in your Celtic Golden Dawn book, but I still have trouble fully comprehending the concept.

In any case, it seems the Lesser Ritual of the Pentagram ritual or some form of it, acts as a foundation for many other ritual practices, I believe even in Wicca/Neo-Pagan type groups like clearing the 4 corners of the circle, or something. I know, circles don't have corners. My guess is this is solely a creation of the Golden Dawn in the 19th Century.

If the Golden Dawn and Wicca never existed, what do you think the standard opening and closing temple ceremonies (or any use of the Lesser Pentagram Ritual) would be like today, which in turn other ritual practices would be founded on?

This line of thinking also makes me wonder how people would be approaching the Kaballah today outside of Judaism, with no Golden Dawn Qabalah modification. And then it makes me wonder, if the Golden Dawn and Wicca never existed, how would magic in general be practiced today?

Anyway, hope you are having a great day!

Thank you!
Jeremy
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