Magic Monday
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The picture? I'm working my way through photos of my lineage, focusing on the teachers whose work has influenced me and the teachers who influenced them in turn. Last week's honoree, past Chosen Chief of OBOD Philip Carr-Gomm, received most of his training in Druidry from Ross Nichols, who is this week's honoree. Nichols was a poet, a watercolorist, and an educator, as well as a good friend of Gerald Gardner, the inventor of modern Wicca. He became a member of the Universal Bond, one of the most active Druid organizations in Britain, in 1954. Ten years later, during a dispute over the leadership of the UB, he founded an order of his own, first called the Bardic Order of Druids and thereafter renamed the Order of Bards Ovates and Druids, which he headed until his death in 1975. He was the author of three books of poetry -- Sassenach Stray, Seasons At War, and Prose Chants and Proems -- as well as The Cosmic Shape, a programmatic essay on nature spirituality with a set of poems attached, and The Book of Druidry, which was published after his death.
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Date: 2023-05-01 03:51 pm (UTC)I am reading Papus' Elementary Treatise of Occult Science. His explanation of the Law of Analogy baffles me. I meditated on this and realized how my own background is the block - in my mind analogies belong to realm of SAT tests, bad sermons by protestant lay ministers, etc. I see how analogies can help communicate a complex idea, but my intellectual background is one that views them as weak arguments at best. Can you explain this better and/or point me to a good source of study?
thank you,
Lothar von Hakelheber
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Date: 2023-05-01 06:58 pm (UTC)"Why is a raven like a writing desk? Why, they both have blackened quills upon 'em!"
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Date: 2023-05-01 06:59 pm (UTC)English Synonyms for those who Practice Magic
Date: 2023-05-01 04:03 pm (UTC)This is a lighthearted question, but I am nonetheless curious. Let us consider the English synonyms for one who practices magic - witch, warlock, wizard, mage magician, sorcerer, etc. Are the differences between them important to an occultist*? Are they only important in the context of say, a D&D game?
*I know, I know, that's an extremely general term that would take a lot of wordsmithing to really nail down ;)
thank you
Lothar von Hakelheber
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Date: 2023-05-01 07:06 pm (UTC)Question
Date: 2023-05-01 04:50 pm (UTC)I have a lot of conflict on-going at work (strong L10 with squares) but also a lot of trouble with friends who have tried to hard me after our relationship has ended (weak L11), and even a curse (weak L8).
I pray a lot, including the St Michael prayer daily, and am considering starting the SoP, but wondering if any one has advice on navigating other people’s negative energies that is constantly bombarded my way.
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Date: 2023-05-01 05:28 pm (UTC)I read the account of Dion Fortune (physic self defense appendix) where she describes that she feels that instead of being born into a body, that she entered a body child who had just died and lived the rest of her life in that body.
Is she then affected by the astrological influences of the birth time of that body? Moreover I am curious about is if astrology is more at a soul level or strictly physical.
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Date: 2023-05-01 07:10 pm (UTC)Bridge of Love
Date: 2023-05-01 05:45 pm (UTC)I wondered if you'd have any tips on the following. I'm chipping away at the tree of life visualisation as the basis for Essene "Bridge of Love" practice. I'm not quite there yet in bringing it all together, but am reliably managing to visualise the first 3 steps separately. Even that seems to be having notable effects such as tingling in my crown area and palms, and an increased confidence with the healing and blessing.
Anyway the issue is: the instructions you posted don't emphasise the need to visualise all 22 traditional paths of the tree, only those paths that are relevant to the "Bridge of Love". In your view is it important to have the full tree structure visualised as a background? Relatedly, how clearly imagined/felt would you say the paths that aren't part of the "lightning bolt" ought be during the process?
Many thanks
JH
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Date: 2023-05-01 06:01 pm (UTC)I have been working through your Occult Philosophy Workbook, and most recently the chapters on the various Kingdoms. I've never had a problem with karma as applied to humans, and I can see that for occultists it would be a way of proceeding to the next level. That said, I don't see what process could operate for minerals and plants, and even most animals, since they do not make conscious choices. That would imply that divine sparks in minerals, for example, must all proceed through the various incarnations roughly in parallel. And in any case, what is an "incarnation" for a piece of rock? Sorry if I have missed anything.
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Date: 2023-05-01 07:00 pm (UTC)Actually there's excellent evidence that some animals, at least, do make very conscious choices, and can communicate their decisions to their fellows. As for plants, the available evidence is less compelling, but it definitely points in that direction, at least for trees in forests.
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Date: 2023-05-01 06:22 pm (UTC)I've noticed that each further increase in the madness follows shortly after an expansion of the "plant-based meat" products: they first hit the market in early 2012; Impossible Burger was marketed in July 2016; and major partnerships brought them to fast food, and thus to millions of people's diets, in 2019.
My own experience with having accidentally eaten one has been that it drastically increased my psychic abilities; and that effect appears to be permanent. It has toned down dramatically, but my psychic abilities are still much higher than they were before that experience, even with the increase in meat in my diet to balance it out.
If you start marketing products that increase psychic sensitivity, and remove meat from large number of people's diets, this seems to me likely to produce dramatic increases in psychic sensitivity in large number of people. Since the effects appear to be permanent, if each time it increases a little bit, things could get very, very weird.
Of course, two other factors make this even worse: first, we live in a society that simply rejects psychic abilities altogether, and these products are being marketed at the people who believe in this the strongest; and second, things are energetically nasty out there.
So, what I'm wondering is if what we're witnessing the consequences of opening millions of people to increased psychic sensitivity in a society that rejects this is even possible, and which is energetically septic.
What we've gotten since 2012 has been mass movements promising or demanding change, that don't make logical sense but with ideas that spread from mind to mind; obsessions over safety; and the collapse of religion among the comfortable classes, as they descend into dogmatic atheism, in a pattern that looks a lot like some of the more frantic reactions to realizing there's a magical reality I've seen, albeit on a larger scale.
I know I need to do further research and thought on this, but does my hypothesis have any flaws you can see?
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Date: 2023-05-01 07:59 pm (UTC)Tolerably often both of my nostrils are clogged, especially during allergy season. Is it acceptable to do mouth breathing in such a situation?
-Cliff
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Date: 2023-05-01 09:34 pm (UTC)What happens - and I guess this goes on a wider scale - if part of a working is incorrect? I realised this week I'd missed out a step from the Sign of Salutation (bringing hands to ears, I'd swept them forward from above head). Is it like missing out a herb from cooking - the result will be similar to the desired one, if not quite as tasty as intended?
And one from Inner Grove of Earth working (also this week, now with correct Sign). I'd entered the grove, heard what sounded like a twig snap, thought, "I'm not alone" then very briefly saw a flash of what I can only describe as a snarling wolf's head (!). I focused on staying calm and that it wasn't really there and the wolf-feeling passed, though there were still a few small noises. Did I somehow create the wolf? Is there any way of guarding against this, or is it part of the experience? (Let me guess - meditation?)
My thanks as ever for your time and all that you do.
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Date: 2023-05-01 11:49 pm (UTC)2) That kind of thing is common. One of my teachers used to call it "astral static," and stressed that it rarely means much.
C.G Jung, Wotan and Pests Encountered on the Average American Interstate
Date: 2023-05-01 09:49 pm (UTC)I don't want to turn this post into a rant so I won't list examples of baffling driving behavior and I note that selfish pests have been on the roads ever since the automobile was invented. I'm just seeing worse and worse behavior which is just as difficult to explain than the need to go out into the countryside and slaughter an innocent sheep.
Anyway, welcome to hear other's opinions on this and thoughts on what archetypes we may be dealing with in our various countries and how that manifests during these interesting times.
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Date: 2023-05-01 09:49 pm (UTC)1) Regarding the SOP: From my experiences during and after performing the ritual I concluded that there is something "special" to the first four elements and that the protective part of the ritual is largely provided by these four. The calling of spirit would then contribute some ... distributive part? ... where the energies invoked in the first part are guided to the proper place, so to say?
2) Also SOP and beyond: Sometimes there's talking about "more potent means of protection" and every now and then (last week, for example) one can read about instances where regular practice of the SOP seems to be not enough. Sticking to the SOP and thus following DMH/DA what are those means in that tradition?
3) CosDoc: I tried to wrap my head around what it means to "absorb something into ones consciousness", especially when "something" is another consciousness. The closest experience I could come up with was one instance which happened as the result of some quite intense healing working. While I was laying on the ground, a thought entered my mind, though "thought" seems to be an inappropriate description. It consisted of just a few words, but in total it could best be described as revelation. As a result the relationship that were part of the cause for my problems completely changed to the better, because suddenly I understood. One could say that in that one moment, "everything" had changed.
Would it be fair to say that I absorbed some detached part of myself into my consciousness? Does that necessarily mean that this detached part had a consciousness of it own? How would one best describe that which was absorbed in that case?
I think that was quite lot to ask, hopefully not too much. Thank you for your patience and for this space and your support, of course!
Greetings,
Nachtgurke
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Date: 2023-05-01 11:54 pm (UTC)2) The Grail working is among other things protective; you can also make talismans or other protective devices using the DMH methods. I'm currently working out a version of the Bornless One ritual, a classic GD magical working, revised to fit the SoP and related magical practices; once it's been adequately tested, I'll be publishing that as well. It has very potent protective capacities.
3) When you can define "myself" clearly, that question will be a lot easier to answer!
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Date: 2023-05-01 10:08 pm (UTC)Are the animals trying to tell us something?
https://twitter.com/CBKNEWS121/status/1652722108970029056?cxt=HHwWgMC-mY2A0-8tAAAA
https://twitter.com/CBKNEWS121/status/1652795056149987334?cxt=HHwWjIC8hZiW9O8tAAAA
it seems very bizarre to me!
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Date: 2023-05-01 11:55 pm (UTC)The Death Point
Date: 2023-05-01 10:10 pm (UTC)I'm not going to share the details for obvious reasons; it should be enough to say that it involves my natal 8th house. When a planet transits a particular point in the 8th house which brings it into aspect with a certain other planet, I reliably suffer disaster.
The first time it happened it was a Uranus transit. I was hit by a car while crossing the street. Uranus retrograded back into place half a year later and I became severely ill, the worst illness I'd experienced in my life up to that point.
The second was a Neptune transit. When Neptune was then joined by a square to Mars, I was attacked by a gang, beaten, robbed, and nearly killed.
Saturn was next. When Saturn transited this point I again became gravely ill, far worse than the Uranus transit.
I'm aware of your opinion of Pluto, but he's very active in my natal chart, and I've found that I ignore his transits at my peril. He will be the next planet to transit this point, and I'm afraid that that will mark my death.
Now, modern astrology does not have many resources for dealing with this sort of thing, but I believe that traditional sources must have more to offer, as questions about death, its timing, and how to avoid it were very common in prior centuries. Are you aware of anything you can point me to? Or do you have a particular method of dealing with difficult upcoming transits you're willing to share?
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Date: 2023-05-01 10:43 pm (UTC)U.S. Labor Day is in September. It probably seemed like a good idea at the time.
—Princess Cutekitten
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Date: 2023-05-01 11:57 pm (UTC)Transits
Date: 2023-05-01 11:15 pm (UTC)I don't really notice/can tell apart the inner planet transits, but saturn transits for me are so accurate and generally painful/stressful, it is wild.
I also am not clear if its a a herald/sign for what is happening, or there's actually a planetary spirit's energy at play causally. (For example, i don't think electional astrology is very real, as I have shared before).
Thoughts?
Re: Transits
Date: 2023-05-01 11:59 pm (UTC)Electional astrology is easy to get wrong, because people constantly try to use it to get things that their natal charts won't permit them to get, then blame electional astrology when they don't get it. The same is true of transits and progressions, though more people seem to realize that those are always conditioned by the natal chart.
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Date: 2023-05-02 12:05 am (UTC)https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2023/05/gradually-and-then-suddenly.html?m=1
—Princess Cutekitten
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Date: 2023-05-02 01:37 am (UTC)Also, I am wondering what effect you think setting up a projector and a powerpoint in church would be. My wife and I tried attending Catholic Mass after the pandemic reopening. The local had a wonderful Latin American priest who was able to make even the rather crummy ritual he was saddled with work, and one could feel the presence of the divine in the mass. The next priest set up a projector ahead of time so he could put on slides-- not during ritual, but in his homily. Christ hasn't shown up at that parish since, and I'm afraid after a few weeks of that neither have I. Does the divine shun the digital, or is it more likely the personal faith or charisma of the priests in question that makes the difference?
Thanks!
-Epileptic Doomer
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Date: 2023-05-02 01:55 am (UTC)2) That's a fascinating question. The divine can overcome just about any obstacle, but it has to have some good reason to do so -- and if you've got a priest who's phoning in the spiritual side and a congregation that's responding passively, the god will go someplace where he's actually welcome.
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Date: 2023-05-02 01:47 am (UTC)(At the risk of annoying you further, my guess is that a pregnant woman should keep her healing hands to herself as she's channeling all she can to the baby, but she can receive healing no problem. Does that track?)
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Date: 2023-05-02 02:09 am (UTC)The "Sphere of Protection" taught in the MOE teachings isn't the same as the SoP taught in the other systems I inherited by John Gilbert, and I wish it had been given a different name, precisely because of this sort of confusion.
Since the MOE work is not ceremonial magic, however, it is not subject to the restrictions that apply to ceremonial magic. Furthermore, the MOE "sphere of protection," like the rest of the MOE work, is not ceremonial magic, and therefore is not subject to the restrictions that apply to ceremonial magic. Oh, and it's not ceremonial magic. And not subject to those restrictions. In case you were wondering! ;-)
I don't happen to know whether or not a pregnant woman should practice the healing hands for others -- that wasn't something that John ever mentioned. Healing for pregnant women, to help the pregnancy and birth go well and deal with any health difficulties that might come up.
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Date: 2023-05-02 02:12 am (UTC)Bottle Spell
Date: 2023-05-02 02:19 am (UTC)Thank you as always for your time JMG.
I have a friend who I am reasonably certain (confirmed via divination) is under serious magical attack from his ex who has significant magical ability. He has been receiving a constant stream of uncanny misfortune for several months in a way that lines up with the end of his relationship with her.
Question: I remember a some time ago there was a spell posted to release someone into the universe using a bottle and a river. My friend seemed interested in it as an option. I can't find the week or remember the exact details, would you be able to share it again?
Also I have his permission to request prayers or magical support for him, if anyone feels so inclined.
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Date: 2023-05-02 03:09 am (UTC)That may not be enough in this situation, though it's worth doing. I would strongly encourage your friend to consider the protective bath and the protective amulet given in the Magic Monday FAQ, and if those don't do the trick, to consider taking up a daily banishing ritual of some kind.
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Date: 2023-05-02 02:39 am (UTC)Over the years I've heard various cautions concerning possible malicious uses of such (literally) personal materials, by humans (which in this case I'm not particularly worried about) or other beings. Assuming that (1) I clearly declare my intention that what I'm leaving is a gift for the wild creatures and thus separated from myself, and (2) I banish with the SoP regularly just in case, can I "donate" my hair clippings safely? Is there any other step I should include?
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