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i told you soWe are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; public health authorities government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.


5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

6. Please don't just post bare links without explanation. A sentence or two telling readers what's on the other side of the link is a reasonable courtesy, and if you don't include it, your attempted post will be deleted.

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.


With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
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Eggs

Date: 2025-01-21 07:27 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I commented on 180 about "farm fresh" (or "farm direct") eggs being plentiful in my area right now. To quantify my statement, I have noticed that around the winter solstice, egg production tends to slow down. Laying hens are truly solar-powered creatures. Without a sufficient period of light, they slow down or stop laying. Weather/temperature also seems to play a factor. Very inconvenient for the season with all the baking going on.

This should not be affecting commercial egg production, however, what with all the energy they throw into supplementary lighting and heating. Word of shortages there is perplexing.

As for my off-grid hens, I figure they deserve a break.

Caldathras

Re: Eggs

Date: 2025-01-21 09:04 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I have a heritage breed chicken i got from greenfire farms. Light Sussex is name of chicken. 1st year i have had them laying. I have 5 hens. I get 4 or 5 eggs every day even through winter

This r some amazing chickens. So far i am impressed!

VA Mtn Man

Re: Eggs

Date: 2025-01-21 10:24 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U59tFAFNAg&ab_channel=Off-GridwithCurtisStone

Here is a video on how to treat chickens nicely so that they give more eggs in winter. No industrial farming setup is necessary.

Summary -

1. He places seed starting mat where the hens lay eggs. The birds enjoy the warmth.
2. He lets the birds to play in a passive solar greenhouse. Even though the outside temp is below freezing, the temp inside the greenhouse is high. Moreover, the chicken poop will help him improve his soil.

Re: Eggs

Date: 2025-01-22 12:18 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I always marvel at how they start laying again once the days start getting longer. Also one of the roosters was getting kinda rapey so we made the girls some taller perches to get away which made a huge difference as far as egg production. Gotta keep 'em happy.

KVD

Re: Eggs

Date: 2025-01-22 02:55 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
We get frosty winters but lots of light and no snow. In those conditions, our first year hens will naturally lay through Winter (if they started laying before). It's the older birds that won't without night lights and warmth, but they need the break so we don't bother with all that. But, the older birds make better broodies. We try to keep our small flock on a rotation so we've always got a few older birds to raise chicks every year that will lay eggs through Winter. We only need a few from a few different lines for genetic diversity and a good broody can raise more than 10 chicks so we eat the roosters and sell the extra hens. Really good broodies get to stay around until they literally fall off their perches and we try to breed for birds that are good mothers without going seriously broody until they've had a few years of good egg laying.

(no subject)

Date: 2025-01-22 05:11 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I'll be interested to see how Fauci's pardon plays out.

I was talking with a lawyer I know, and he pointed out that the way that pardons work, they only go into effect when the person who holds the pardon assert that they are using it. So what that means is that if Fauci is called by Rand Paul to testify, he has two choices - he can plead the 5th and refuse, in which case he rejects his pardon, or he can agree to testify under the protection of the pardon, which could open him up to charges of perjury.

In addition, if he does testify, that would then endanger his co-conspirators who don't hold a pardon.

If the analysis I got is right, it looks like the next couple of months are going to be interesting.

(no subject)

Date: 2025-01-22 09:46 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] earthworm_uk
The chicken posts made me do a double-take to check I wasn't on the Frugal Friday threads!

Thought this was worth copying over from the end of covidfest week 180:

*****
From yesterday's Magic Monday:

QUOTE
Date: 2025-01-20 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
From this I get the impression that people with less developed mental sheaths are governed to a greater extent by collective archetypes that substitute for an individualized mental body. Am I on the right track?
UNQUOTE

I'm thinking, bingo, I think that may begin to explain what happened, and why so many people around me, and generally, couldn't seem to tolerate asking even a few basic questions. That so many people's minds seem to have been "switched off" around anything pertaining to cooties, is something that haunts me, and probably always will.

I'd be interested in heraing more from others and from JMG on this subject of the mental sheath development and how it might relate to the topic under discussion here.

Nom du jour: Watermelon Woo Begonia
*****

Could that be a contributing factor?
i.e. that high level functioning risks being hijacked by a surge in human group energy (either individual / group / archetype / egregore)? If a surge in fear boosts the animal level and 'lizard' brain it short-circuits higher level function when people suddenly find themselves in an ocean of fear, and people get 'tuned' to that unless their own 'note/pitch' is able to weather the emotion storm?

There were plenty of people I know who I thought were high functioning who sudden;y seemed to lose their minds. Granted fear can shut down thinking, but I've never seen anything so extreme and widespread.
Edited (typo/clarity) Date: 2025-01-22 09:53 am (UTC)

500 billions for AI, yes billions!

Date: 2025-01-22 04:00 pm (UTC)
the_arcane_archivist: (Default)
From: [personal profile] the_arcane_archivist
Remember last thread when I talked about the dangers of generative AI, especially for molecular models and genetic models, where the hallucinations of AI can become invisible toxic traps, or dangerous mRNAs, or dangerous proteins or cells or the Olympus gods know what.

With generative LLM and diffusion models can be detected by humans because humans are able to read those signals.

But humans cannot detect problems in molecules, folding, toxicity, etc.

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/economy/article/2025/01/22/stargate-trump-s-500-billion-project-to-boost-artificial-intelligence_6737299_19.html


Stargate, Trump's $500 billion project to boost artificial intelligence
On Tuesday, Trump unveiled the Stargate project, set up by Oracle, OpenAI and SoftBank, to build giant data centers for the next generation of AI. The project will invest $100 billion immediately, rising to $500 billion by 2029.


Funny that I talked about the synchronicity of the man in black with the syringe, The Nine and origins of AI and "The Stargate Conspiracy" in the last thread and we get this in this thread.

And this project is called Stargate, make of it what you whish I said it multiple time here since I am Romanian, I don't do US politics, but my take from this news is that Trump has the ear to a lot of wrong advice.

Half a trillion dollars on AI is a lot of money, money that could have solved a lot and lot of things!

Maybe I don't see a bigger picture or 5D chess so I am open to scolding!

Re: 500 billions for AI, yes billions!

Date: 2025-01-22 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] escorcher
Boy has this open covid post opened up into all sorts of areas I certainly wouldn't have anticipated 5 years ago. All quite meta with an accelerating rate of a growing snake eating it's own increasingly fractal tail. Quite a picture.
Edited (Clarity) Date: 2025-01-22 04:54 pm (UTC)

(no subject)

Date: 2025-01-22 04:45 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] anonymoose_canadian
It's also an interesting legal question as to whether or not a blanket pardon of this sort will hold up in court. It's one thing to pardon a specific set of actions, and quite another to effectively say certain people are (or at least were) completely exempt from the law...

Re: 500 billions for AI, yes billions!

Date: 2025-01-22 04:50 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] brotherkornhoer
The best comment on the Naked Capitalism blog about this is that they will build the Stargate and throw billions of dollars through the event horizon; the billions will disappear to another universe and no one will know where they went.

Social engineering

Date: 2025-01-22 04:50 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
It is a whole topic unto itself if we consider to role of social engineering towards managing behaviour of large numbers and consider that these tactics were used in total in getting people to act with such fervour against their own natural interests- that of allowing an untested vaccine to be tested upon world populations. The fear and panic was designed to play into primitive survival instincts, by-passing cognitive function entirely. And it was accomplished solely on the internet/media, no real-life events required.

Worse, what I saw, was all of a sudden, many felt a sense of importance come over them, by feeling directly involved on a grass-root level, there was something they could do, talk about, write about, getting the vaccine became a ceremony itself. Inertia and boredom and sameness ended and so many pallid even boring lives sparkled with purpose. The us/them, vaccinated, not-vaccinated created a dichotomy grotesquely satisfying to repressions laboured by a social contract and made a "respectable" excuse to divide camps into the washed/unwashed; giving narcissism a public stamp of approval.

Many were already weary of what passed for their social lives, the lock-downs were a perfect excuse to relieve them of what had become something done because of artificial expectations put upon them, Not-partaking was for many a relief with a bonafide stamp of official approval. Even after the lock-downs ended, few erected their social obligations to pre-covid days, feeling justified in maintaining distance. And now it is a self-esteem issue, many will never admit they were duped into medical interventions designed solely to enrich shareholders and big corporations.

It also sent clear message to governing bodies, who was compliant, who wasn't, allowing social engineers to plan better whatever next thing might be on the agenda. But like Pavlov's dogs, one can only hope they remember that too much artificial engineering of response will get the inevitable response of bite-back, instinct can only be messed with so much, until the entity rebels.
But in all of it, trust in blanket acceptance has eroded and individual responsibility is perceived as a thing. And governments have the eyes of their people upon them to a degree not seen before, to be accountable to the people.

Re: 500 billions for AI, yes billions!

Date: 2025-01-22 04:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] the_arcane_archivist
but if any medicines come out of it, I for one will be running, not walking, the other direction.

This is no longer an if, they are doing it already officially for years, unoficially who knows:

https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/02/15/1067904/ai-automation-drug-development/

The first drugs designed with the help of AI are now in clinical trials, the rigorous tests done on human volunteers to see if a treatment is safe—and really works—before regulators clear them for widespread use. Since 2021, two drugs that Exscientia developed (or co-developed with other pharma companies) have started the process. The company is on the way to submitting two more.




They just hope that if they get bigger and faster servers the model gets better, truth is that once the models encounter the pollution of data already produced by AI that is ingested in the training data the model performs worse or collapses:


https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-07566-y#:~:text=Model%20collapse%20is%20a%20degenerative,they%20then%20mis-perceive%20reality.


This is just one of the examples with LLMs, but it is a thing common to all neural networks.


Also in reality they should retrain the models again and again to take into account the collective collapse of herd immunity and individual immunity.

I have almost 10 years since I study this AI conundrum, and I think I know how it will end, they will go the way of the woke and cults behaviour, the models will become stricter and stricter and more expensive trained on old data, while the reality changes radically thys the gap increases more and more...


By the time they figure out the AI is bullshirt, the humans having the expertise will have died, retired retrained for other careers, or just emigrated.
Edited Date: 2025-01-22 04:59 pm (UTC)

Re: 500 billions for AI, yes billions!

Date: 2025-01-22 04:55 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] escorcher
I challenged an AI image generator to create this picture and it failed spectacularly. Take from that what you may.

Re: Eggs

Date: 2025-01-22 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] escorcher
Clucking well guys...and there I was thinking JMG didn't allow fowl language on his covid Dreamwidth posts:)
Edited (gotta smile) Date: 2025-01-22 05:39 pm (UTC)

Re: Eggs

Date: 2025-01-22 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Yep. I agree completely. Our experience has been the same.

Sadly, we suffered a horrible series of bear attacks four years ago. A total of six distinct adults including a sow with two cubs. We lost all our broodies and have never been able to rebuild as good a broody team since.

Since then, We have had the poultry pens surrounded by a solar-powered, high-voltage electric fence.

Caldathras

(no subject)

Date: 2025-01-22 05:58 pm (UTC)
wolf_wobo: A Dog (Default)
From: [personal profile] wolf_wobo
Trump WILL NOT got after him. That would cause questions of the shot. His team has already "fired" two people who were "anti-vax" from RFK's retinue. Because they don't want the shot questioned.

Fauci will NEVER see the inside of a courtroom, criminal or civil. Example A: Hillary Clinton. Remember "Lock Her Up?" after he was elected the first time not another word was said.

~Wolf

Re: Eggs

Date: 2025-01-22 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I have a friend who does something similar, only he uses a car port. I'm told that a number of people do in this area.

I simply do not have enough level ground within my poultry pens to pull that off.

Caldathras

(no subject)

Date: 2025-01-22 06:02 pm (UTC)
wolf_wobo: A Dog (Default)
From: [personal profile] wolf_wobo
I would agree. I know from personal exsperience that weathering that storm has just about TOO much. but they seem to be locked in. ANY time i question something e.g. "why is this being done this way could we try this other instead," i get an (and it always) Angry no.

~Wolf

Re: 500 billions for AI, yes billions!

Date: 2025-01-22 06:04 pm (UTC)
wolf_wobo: A Dog (Default)
From: [personal profile] wolf_wobo
I would agree, but... I think it is Trumps way of paying for his minder, sorry "first-bud."

~Wolf

(no subject)

Date: 2025-01-22 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Well, this one took me by surprise!

By issuing these preemptive pardons, Biden has basically admitted that these people did something wrong! I'm surprised that he and his handlers did not see that ...

Caldathras
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