Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 74

[ecosophia]

As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselessness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion. 

Comments

Clownworld

[fredsmith11]

I think Alex Christoforou, who is one half of The Duran team, started the use of the term "clownworld". He generally has a clownworld section at the end of his videos about geopolitics (often featuring Ukraine), which are informative and entertaining.

People like Ursula van der Crazy, Borrell, Scholz, Blinken, Milley, Biden of course, Lindsey Graham et al are regular stars of clownworld.

I accepted a while ago that a whole bunch of people in the "Collective West" had gone crazy. Who knows why really. Demons, angry gods, the decline in living standards and lifespan, too many meds?

I believe that a lot of them are literally hypnotised. That's what the propaganda machine is designed to do. Talking to them large chunks of reality are missing from their worldview. Somehow those chunks have been deleted from their perception.

Looking at the big picture, if you take the many lifetimes/reincarnation/spiritual journey viewpoint of why we're here, there's a reason why someone took the jab and are glad they did even if it kills them. Who am I to say that they're wrong?

For me, humour is a great coping mechanism with all this. The Gods laugh and we carry on running around doing our stuff.

Here's the comedian Heather McDonald, who collapsed at the end of her pro-vax skit, right after she said "Jesus loves me the most". She's interviewed later after recovering from her fractured skull, saying "I don't think I want to get the 4th booster though". Aha! Signs of intelligent life Jim.

https://rumble.com/vv540y-comedian-that-fainted-after-coof-joke-says-she-wont-get-4th-jab.html

Re: Clownworld

[(Anonymous)]

In a word: Karma rules!

-A Spaniard.

Joe Rogan "EPIC Wake Up Call to the Covidians"

[(Anonymous)]

https://rumble.com/v23y5kg--joe-rogan-sends-an-epic-wake-up-call-to-the-covidians.html

He starts by commenting on the infamous tweet by Dr Natalia, then talks about bad/hidden trial data, ideological capture on social media etc.

Re: Joe Rogan "EPIC Wake Up Call to the Covidians"

[escorcher]

A fourth take on the infamous Dr N tweet here (after Kim and JMG's plus the one linked to here). This is from IM Doc on the Naked Capitalism post as previously linked to in an earlier post here this week:

"This is now just beginning the detonation phase. I saw a tweet this weekend of a young critical care doctor who was one of the main instigators of this malfeasance toward the unvaxxed last year. She said that even if the vaccines are poison ( an interesting comment to make from this crowd – precipitating much thought on my part all weekend) she would happily and righteously do it all over again. I DID IT OUT OF LOVE FOR HUMANITY AND I WILL DO IT ALL AGAIN – I DID NOT DO IT OUT OF HATE LIKE THE ANTI VAXXERS DID. First of all, she needs to go back and look at all the tweets and posts of her and her compadres, and then really contemplate the meaning of hate. Secondly, her statement above may very well be the epitaph for the current iteration of this healing profession.

I am unable to even begin to remotely process the soul place from where these people come. It has been profoundly depressing to me as an ethics professor the behavior of these younger doctors. I thank God to this day none of my students seem to be out there in the vanguard. They would have gotten a phone call for sure.

I do think we should all reflect on this line of thinking so prevalent in our world. It will be the death of us all."

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2023/01/the-ethics-of-covid-19-vaccine-mandates-where-do-we-stand-and-where-should-we-go-regarding-social-and-biomedical-responses-to-pandemic.html

This change to understanding that all is not well with the new multi-jabs landscape is happening with all the speed and grace of an oil-tanker making an emergency turn. And I'm not sure about the stability of some of the crew. I suspect it's best to keep well out the way whatever changes in direction are being made!

Damar Hamlin

[mr_nobody1967]

So has the mainstream media reaction to Damar Hamlin's cardiac arrest with regard to Covid-vaccine-injury been the most classic case of The Barbara Streisand Effect we have ever seen or what?

Re: Damar Hamlin

[(Anonymous)]

Like a loudspeaker on the street corner going off & saying 'Do not look at the squirrel.'

[(Anonymous)]

Man oh man, this 'tweet' (below) is something else in terms of a shot across the bow re covid narrative. It relates to the NFL.

https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status/1610659164769902593

Incredibly strange how an event like this occurs and its reverberations.

[(Anonymous)]

JMG, i am seeing this going around, and
wanted to share it, but I am uncertain about
the source.
So I am posting it so you can take a look
and decide if you think it is a good enough
article to share.
If not, that is ok. If it is true it is important so I thought I would share it anyway
and leave it up to you.

DOD CONTROLLED COVID ‘VACCINES’ FROM THE START UNDER NATIONAL SECURITY PROGRAM – LIED THE ENTIRE TIME – Were NEVER ‘Safe and Effective’

https://armedforces.press/2023/01/05/breaking-dod-controlled-covid-vaccines-from-the-start-under-national-security-program-lied-the-entire-time-were-never-safe-and-effective/

also saw it here (this person is mentioned in the artice above too )
https://sashalatypova.substack.com/p/the-role-of-the-us-dod-and-their

[(Anonymous)]

Yes Sasha brought out the info.

[(Anonymous)]

This is hilarious-- more about fake Twitter doctor Honeyman

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/fakers-thursday-january-5-2023-c

[(Anonymous)]

Reason #789 why I stay away from Twitter.

Egon Fisher substack

[boccaccio]

Egon Fisher is a German psychic who is often referenced by Peter Denk. Egon started a substack on new years day. His first two entries are quite interesting. He posted his predictions for 2023 and a piece about timelines. I read it with interest.

His central theme for 2023 is that it will be a year of mourning. People will start to realize that their old world will not come back, there will be shocking revelations and people will have to face reality. Some people will not make the shift and that will lead to their decline in mental, emotional, physical and spiritual way. People will also mourn for others leaving their lives. He seems to suggest continuing excess mortality but no mass death.

On the material plane he sees a continued decline of many systems like health, economy etc, but no big collapse and many smaller points of light. According to him we've got help last month from forces of good who do not want a rapid decline with the accompanying fear and panic that will aid the forces of darkness (This jives with some commenters on MM who noted a clearer astral space last month).

His final paragraph reads "So the people who are participating in the frequency increase and are waking up or have woken up and who have mentally and materially prepared for challenging times can look to the year 2023 with hope, while for people who are clinging to the old and are not ready to change horses, the year 2023 will be very difficult and depressing."

https://substack.com/profile/95972054-egon-fischer (in German, but Google translate works fine)

Re: Egon Fisher substack

[revert2mean]

I felt those forces of good! I think others here did too. I just thought, "well, that's weird".

[(Anonymous)]

Swiss organization to provide people with SAFE blood transfusions from UNVAXXED

https://www.naturalnews.com/2023-01-04-swiss-org-to-provide-safe-blood-from-unvaxxed.html

[jdecandia]

Thank you! Is there any US equivalent?

Gene Therapy - The New Arms Race

[fredsmith11]

Two important videos from Brian Berletic, who is an ex-US Marine best known for his coverage on geopolitics, particularly Ukraine.

#1 Gene Therapy is Revolutionary & Really Works - so Why Isn't it Mainstream?
https://rumble.com/v23thnd-gene-therapy-is-revolutionary-and-really-works-so-why-isnt-it-mainstream.html

#2 Gene Therapy: Technology isn't Good or Bad - Only Those Using or Abusing it Are...
https://rumble.com/v23uchn-gene-therapy-technology-isnt-good-or-bad-only-those-using-or-abusing-it-are.html

In #2 he says:
"Gene Technology is an incredibly powerful technology that can be used for tremendous good. It can also be used by the wrong people to do tremendous harm. You can reprogram the cells in your body to seek out and destroy cancer. You can also reprogram the cells in your body to ravage your biology.

All technology is a double edge sword - it can be used to protect and serve the public, or it can be used to brutally oppress the public and everything in between."

These videos connected a lot of dots for me.

- We know the COVID mRNA jabs are not vaccines in the traditional sense, rather gene therapy.

- We know the spike protein they instruct your body to create is pathogenic.

- We know the spike protein they generate is a DIFFERENT spike protein (S2P) to the one in COVID the virus.

- We know effective early treatments were suppressed and a propaganda campaign ramped up to provide justification for jab mandates.

- We know a ton of people are sick or dead from the jabs.

- We know the US has 250+ biolabs around the world. The Russians found various incriminating documents in the ones in Ukraine.

- The Russians and Chinese reacted to the initial COVID outbreak as if it were a bioweapon attack.

In video #1 around 14min a presentation by a Pharma Exec on TedX is shown. He says "gene therapy doesn't pay very well" (e.g. when it's curing cancer) and they need to "establish the value". In other it's too cheap and effective, so all the profits from their other crappy, toxic drugs will be affected [my words]. Hmmm, could that be why we haven't seen much of gene therapy so far?

A thought experiment: If you wanted to be really Machiavellian and profit seeking, could you inject billions of people with a toxic gene therapy, let enough die to scare people, then offer a treatment? "We're so sorry everyone, we made a mistake, but here's the cure for it".

Re: Gene Therapy - The New Arms Race

[(Anonymous)]

I'm going to just go ahead and pass on gene therapy. I'm just not feeling it, what with the global catastrophe and all. Call me crazy if you like.

Phoning in the New year

[fredsmith11]

Good one!

[(Anonymous)]

Love it.

Vaxx Injuries / Adverse Events

[(Anonymous)]

Just posted - stroke-like symptoms, the usual gaslighting from doctors

Brendan Beatty
First Dose of Pfizer on 03/16/2021 Lot #ER8730
Second Dose of Pfizer on 0416/2021 Lot #EW0161
Simi Valley, California
53 yrs old

EXCERPT

Q: What do you wish others knew?

The vaccine is dangerous. You're better off seeing how you do getting Covid and avoiding what I'm going through. Having half your face numb constantly is very uncomfortable as are the headaches and sharp pains.


EXCERPT

https://www.realnotrare.com/post/brendan-beatty

More on Kerryn Phelps - Vax Injured Ex-AMA President

[fredsmith11]

In the MSM again: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11592089/Kerryn-Phelps-wife-Jackie-Stricker-Phelps-opens-Covid-vaccine-injury-time.html

Limited sympathy as she was still recommending kids get the jab 6 months after she knew she was vax injured. More normalisation of vax injuries?

"Dr Phelps was among the first well-known Australian medical experts to publicly address Covid vaccine injury in her submission to a Senate inquiry into long Covid.

Her lengthy testimony revealed both she and her wife suffered ongoing serious adverse affects from the vaccine, and that doctors were too afraid of losing their medical licences to talk about it.

'The cloak of silence has been lifted and people are starting to talk about long Covid and vaccine injuries,' Ms Stricker-Phelps said.

Because the government never publicly acknowledged the full risk, she argues Australians didn't have proper informed consent when they decided to get the jab."

A good proportion didn't "decide to get the jab", they were coerced through mandates.

[(Anonymous)]

So far the big surprise of 2023 for me is the vast number of experts able to flawlessly diagnose the medical condition 'commotio cordis.'

[(Anonymous)]

XD

[(Anonymous)]

Dr. Natalia we barely knew ye. Is it really...over?

CDC safety data from FOIA just came through

[team10tim]

https://jackanapes.substack.com/p/cdc-finally-released-its-vaers-safety

"CDC Finally Released Its VAERS Safety Monitoring Analyses for COVID Vaccines via FOIA
And now it's clear why they tried to hide them."

Official government confirmation that the vaccines are dangerous has just come through. Add in the IgG4 paper and the Cleveland paper that shows the vaccines have negative efficacy:

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/urgent-two-new-studies-show-mrna

And you have a very solid red pill. Further, they strongly imply that the health authorities and the MSM are either inept or corrupt, but I would leave that for the reader to decide.

Re: CDC safety data from FOIA just came through

[(Anonymous)]

"the health authorities and the MSM are either inept or corrupt"

This is the thing that keeps catching my attention, over and over again the last few years, in authority figures of every kind from politicians to bureaucrats to physicians to media outlets and many more. The question that comes to mind is "are you malicious or just incompetent, and which of those is supposed to make me trust you?"

[(Anonymous)]

A fair question to Jordan Peterson (who decries lack of support from the Twitterverse) from Kulvinder Kaur - Jordan Peterson's fellow Canadian, MD, & President & CoFounder - Concerned Ontario Doctors oncall4on

https://twitter.com/dockaurG/status/1611212111685754880?cxt=HHwWgICx7aC4ltwsAAAA

[(Anonymous)]

fair enough question BUT I DON'T TRUST ANYONE WHO IS AN "MD" ON TWITTER FROM NOW ON. they're like the bad seeds who sew distrust by going one step too far and keeping us seeming diabolical to each other.

social media is the demon.

erika

Relation Coronavirus prevalence and excess mortality

[boccaccio]

Today Dutch CBS released the mortality data for the last two weeks of 2022. It shows that excess mortality peaked in week 51 (Dec 19 - Dec 25) at 28.6% and then declined in week 52 to 17.0%. Unless many people who died after Christmas haven't been administrated yet, this means that week 51 saw the peak of the current wave of excess mortality and that we now are on the downward slope of that wave.

This development in in sync with the sewage data that show the peak of the current wave on December 23th, and since then a decline.

Covid 19 is only a very small part of the excess mortality, but the virus prevalence is (again!!) seen to be a very good indicator of the excess mortality. Earlier I noted this pattern in the Delta wave of October/November 2021 and in the Omicron waves since last September, but there has been no scientific proof of the mechanism behind it. Rintrah recently made waves recently speculating it is due to tolerance.

I'll keep an eye on the data to see if there will be corrections in the mortality data and if the sewage data indeed keep going down after Dec 23th (data available only till the 26th), but tentatively it looks like this unexplained synchronicity in de data continues.

Links:
Sewage data https://coronadashboard.rijksoverheid.nl/landelijk/rioolwater
Mortality data in the excell file downloadable here https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/maatwerk/2023/01/overledenen-per-week-provincie-en-gemeente-week-52-2022
Expected mortality here https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/nieuws/2022/49/oversterfte-in-november-lager-dan-in-oktober (implied in graph)

Re: Relation Coronavirus prevalence and excess mortality

[methylethyl]

If the Aus data is anything to go by, there's a bigger-than-usual data lag in December, because even people in government offices take a break at Christmas, so I wouldn't count anything from December as final, particularly if it looks like numbers are dropping (numbers of anything-- deaths, infections, births, marriages...). Would wait at least another month or two to make any calls on it.

From Nov 2021

[transcriberb]

I came upon this YT video yesterday, thanks to Dr Alexander's substack. Apparently this bill passed and Steph Ryan subsequently retired from politics.

Ryan opposes Public Health and Wellbeing Amendment (Pandemic Management) Bill 2021
October 28, 2021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9VOXbMpeus

TRANSCRIPT

STEPH RYAN: I feel sick that we're having this debate. I don't think there has ever been a piece of legislation to come before this chamber that I have been more vehemently opposed to. I feel sick that Labor MPs are not brave enough to stand up and speak the truth about this legislation. I don't care if you think that Daniel Andrews' handling of this pandemic has been infallible. I don't care if you stand with Dan. I don't care if you think he is the greatest thing since sliced bread. The truth is that this legislation is about handing the Premier and the Health Minister the ability to rule by decree. Is that power that you want to hand to every future Premier and Health Minister? Doesn't matter what you think about Daniel Andrews. This is not even about the current government. This is about the management of pandemics but also the ability to trigger these powers forever into the future. It's about the regime that it has the potential to set up here in this state. That's what is at stake here. Is that what we want as Victorians?

This bill allows the government to declare a pandemic in Victoria and make orders that lock down the state even when there is no presence of disease here. Yes, the Chief Officer needs to publish his or her advice within 14 days of those orders being made, but that advice, even if it contradicts the order made by the Premier or the Health Minister, doesn't invalidate those orders if it doesn't support it.

The bill gives the government the right to make orders on the ability of attributes— things like race, gender, sexuality. How on earth can people support that? How on earth can members opposite support that? It is extraordinary.

It offers no rights of appeal to courts that people who are incarcerated. It sets up a penalty regime of fines that would see an individual face more than $90,000. That would send most ordinary Victorians to jail. Who can afford a $90,000 fine? And the government says, "Don't worry. That's just about the worst breaches." Well, that is not what the legislation says. It's extraordinary [inaudible] this figure. And I cannot believe that those opposite are not brave enough to stand up and speak out about it. I imagine that the member for Altona is going to speak on this legislation. She has been the Attorney-General; she has been a lawyer. She cannot possibly agree with this. She can't.

Where are your values?

Speaker, there is no parliamentary oversight of these powers. No parliamentary oversight. It sets up a consultative committee of people appointed by the Premier and the Health Minister, and they don't even need to take the advice of that. It is just a consultative committee.

Central to a liberal democracy is a belief in shared power. And central to a liberal democracy is a, is the belief in a suspicion of concentrated power. Central to a liberal democracy is the accountability of the executive to the Parliament. Central to a liberal democracy is the preservation of the following rights:

freedom to criticize the government;
freedom from arbitrary arrest;
freedom of worship;
the right to a fair trial;
the right of assembly;
freedom of movement.

This bill hands the government the power to throw out every one of those rights by decree. And there is no oversight of these powers.

We are supposed to think critically in this place. We are supposed to come here, representing our constituents, thinking critically. That's why people elected us. Stop being sheep.

I find it inconceivable that a future Premier, for example, might determine that people with red hair can't hold a job. I find that completely out of the realm of possibility. But you know what, two years ago I never contemplated that we would live in a world where someone who isn't vaccinated can't hold a job, can't go into a shop, can't go to an event. I never believed that we would come to a place as a state where we would say that. But here we are.

And these things don't happen overnight. They happen by degrees. Do I trust the Andrews Government and all future governments to exercise these powers responsibly? No I don't. And I think anyone who does is an absolute fool.

Labor MPs protest that this is what we asked for, that we called for elected politicians to be accountable for these decisions. What we called for was proper parliamentary oversight.

MALE VOICE OFF-CAMERA: Here, here!

STEPH RYAN: And that's why we've proposed that that the power to make orders should be governed, should require the approval of a constitutional majority of both houses of the Parliament.

When the President of the Victorian Bar Council comes out and says that the Stasi* would be happy with the powers that this bill confers, people need to sit up and take note. This is how he summarized it yesterday: The Bill confers on the Health Minister in a practical sense an effectively unlimited power to rule the state by decree for effectively an indefinite period and without judicial or parliamentary oversight.

That doesn't add up to good democracy.

People might argue that ultimate accountability sits with the people at an election. If you don't like what a premier's done, well, vote them out. But yesterday when we had the bill briefing, the department could not say whether this bill gives the power to the Premier to suspend elections.

MALE VOICE OFF-CAMERA: What!

STEPH RYAN: They did not know the answer to that, and they said they would have to come back and give us advice, which we still haven't received. That remains unanswered. The department doesn't know whether the Premier could use this bill to suspend an election. [voice breaking:] Do you realize how extraordinary that is?

The Irish philosopher Edmund Burke said that, "The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion." Those opposite tell us that unprecedented powers are required for unprecedented times. Governments always present compelling reasons to concentrate power.

My grandmother came to this country fleeing Mussolini and I am glad that she is not alive today to see what is happening. I genuinely am. I think she would be absolutely horrified. I honestly never believed, I never believed that the people elected to this chamber would think that it is appropriate to hand the Premier and the Health Minister the kind of power to lock people up, to lock people down, to cancel protests without the checks and balances of Parliament, to strip people of their most basic rights without the oversight and the checks and balances of Parliament.

The erosion of people's liberties does not happen overnight; it happens by degrees. Streamline pandemic laws, by all means. We don't argue with that, We know that the government needs a certain degree of flexibility to control dangerous outbreaks of disease. We are not arguing about that,. We are arguing for proper accountability and oversight. This bill does not deliver those measures.

Let me conclude with the proverb that we all know because it is inscribed into the foyer of this building.

"Where there is no counsel the people fall, but in the multitude of counsellors there is safety."

That's the principle of this Parliament. And it is the principle that I urge members of the Labor Party to adhere to. Do not give this unchecked power not just to this government but to future governments. It is wrong.
9:09
[END]


# # #

TRANSCRIBER'S NOTES:

*Stasi refers to the Ministerium für Staatsicherheit or Ministry of State Security in East Germany, 1950-1990.

See article on Ryan's retirement from politics:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-06/steph-ryan-deputy-leader-of-victorian-nationals-resigns/101212172

Re: From Nov 2021

[(Anonymous)]

Victoria was the test case for maximum oppression.

They brought in stormtroopers from overseas to kick heads at the peak of the protests, as a proportion of the local police were sick to the stomach with things.

The sheeple still voted Dan Andrews back in afterwards. What can you say?

Michelle: Why? Why?

[transcriberb]

Michelle: Why? Why?
December 5, 2022
https://rumble.com/v1yyu1o-vaccine-injury-why-government-and-more.html


TRANSCRIPT -EXCERPT

MICHELLE: Being vaccine injured, I'm not sure why we're being censored and people don't know about us, why we can't get the help. We have a president in office that's more worried about taking care of people in Ukraine, not watching the borders, and a list of other things, and pushes the vaccine, but when people have vaccine injuries from the covid-19 shot, he does absolutely nothing. He doesn't care about us. We turn in our claims to the injury compensation program, which is run by the government, federal, and you know what? Nothing! You don't hear from them. Nobody does anything for you.

What about us? What about the American people? There's so much that we need to be thinking about, you know, people who praise our president. Why? Why? He wants to, get your booster, get your booster, get your booster. There's people that are hurt by it, losing jobs, losing their houses, losing a lot of things because they're hurt from the vaccine and we're not being heard. Why? Why? Why can't we do something legal?

Why don't doctors want to diagnose or treat people with vaccine injuries? Why? I'd love to know why. Because we sit here and wait.

We're done. We're spreading the word, we're spreading awareness and we will be heard.

1:26
[END OF EXCERPT]

Happy Insurrection Day

[(Anonymous)]

Let us take this time to remember Insurrection Day and how the buffalo helmet shaman man tried to stop Dark Brandon from taking office.

But we also need to remember this is how The Changer needed to act to complete his mission. He had squeezed as much change out of the Orange Julius as he could and then needed to unleash his new avatar, the Dark Brandon, in order to destroy American hegemony, kill the god of progress and initiate a new Spiritualism in America.

Re: Happy Insurrection Day

[(Anonymous)]

Except it wasn't anything like a real insurrection, being stage managed by the FBI and Capitol police.

Buffalo helmet shaman man was a great look, but walking around the Capitol in a cool outfit doing selfies doesn't get you political change. At this stage of proceedings, it's hard to see anything 'normal' that will bring change.

JMG talks about collapse, disintegration of Govt and the rise of warlords as being the historical norm for next steps.

Brett Weinstein on Joe Rogan

[methylethyl]

So... I'm keen to hear Joe Rogan #1919, the recent show where he interviewed Brett Weinstein, but it has apparently been censored by Spotify, and I can't find it on YT either. There are a couple of clips floating around on other platforms, but that's all I can find.

Anybody here know where I can find the whole episode?

This clip in particular is tantalizing:

https://rumble.com/v23y848-bret-weinstein-questions-the-true-motives-behind-the-covid-vaccine-campaign.html

Transcript of Brett's comments, for the non-video crowd:

"...and this is the thing that is now, so alarming to me. You can imagine a public health authority that was arrogant, and that thought it understood things way better than it did, and it thought it had a plan, and it... maybe it dreamt that, you know, by deploying these novel vaccines that would surely be the basis for many future successful vaccine campaigns against other pathogens that they would be heralded as heroes... right, you could imagine, hubris causing people to deploy *this* and then discover, that, it didn't work, and... it hurt people. But at the point that we're seeing... and undeniable pattern of damage, and we know that that damage is disproportionately experienced by younger people. And the risk of COVID is disproportionately to the old. The idea that it doesn't stop, the idea that it doesn't turn around and say "well, the vaccines are good, let's give 'em to people over 65, if you're over 40 and you want one, you can have one, but we're not gonna vaccinate anybody young because the risk/benefit ratio doesn't make sense"-- the fact that it *doesn't do that* means, I think, that somehow whatever is driving this policy is absolutely comfortable with the death of other people. How could it not be? I mean, how could you recommend these MRNA vaccines for children, who are not, at least at the moment, vulnerable to COVID? How could you do it?"

It caught in my ear like a hook, that he uses "whatever" there at the end... "whatever is driving"

Now, he starts out by referring to a public health authority as "it" and switches back and forth from "it" referring to the "public health authority" and "people/they" for the people who think they'll be heroes for deploying the vaccine etc. But there at the end, it's not clear what he's referring to. Whatever is driving... the whatever that is "absolutely comfortable with the death of other people".

He sounds like he's no longer talking about the public health authority, or people, here. I'm so curious what he thinks that "whatever" is.

Re: Bret Weinstein on Joe Rogan

[(Anonymous)]

Wow, I did not know that they censored it! I watched the entire thing (all 3.5 hours) the day it came out. The first couple of hours was about COVID and the last hour strayed into AI and other topics. They talked briefly about the Hamlin cardiac arrest on Monday night football.
I read this blog and also watch Bret Weinstein's podcast DarkHorse on Odysee. So neither Bret nor Joe brought up anything during the 2 hours that I did not already know. They talked about the tweet by the doctor that has been thoroughly commented on by our host and everyone else this week (Joe brought it up), they talked about all the different studies showing the vaccines actually make you more likely to get COVID and all of the studies on the harms caused by the vaccines. All of that has been discussed here and/or on DarkHorse. What surprised me about the discussion is that Joe Rogan made it clear that he knows that the vaccines are causing harm (he knows people with permanent damage). I have not heard him come out that strongly about the vaccines before. Bret has made it clear for a long time that he believes the vaccines should be stopped immediately and a complete investigation be done of how we got here -- that is why he is on Odysee. DarkHorse is demonetized and censored on YouTube.

Shoot the messenger

[(Anonymous)]

Are you ready for a new wave of viscous anti-anti-vaxxer propaganda?

Here's an example of the latest WHO propaganda mind-frack:

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/who-anti-vaccine-activism-deadlier-global-terrorism

But it's all okay, because even if the pro-vaxxers are totally wrong and injecting literal poison and dooming everyone to die, they are doing it out of love and the antivaxxers are terrorists. The provaxxer lies are all out of love you see, and that makes lying okay even if it dooms everyone with injections of literally poisonous 'science juice'.

You can't make this shale up. . . unless of course you're an 'imaginative' provaxxer 'scientist', then you can claim, well, whateva irrational and feckless lies you like are true out of 'love'.

First they make the virus, then they make the "literally poison" therapy for same, and now they move operation mindfrack up to the next level of Provaxxer Jonestown. Won't be long now until they are screeching: "Hurry, take your clotshots, the unvaxxed terrorists are coming with flamethrowers!"

The Ninth Mouse

Re: Shoot the messenger

[fredsmith11]

In a way, that sort of ludicrous propaganda is a positive sign, because it shows they're getting desperate and know the narrative is slipping.

Anywhere uncensored commentary is allowed, the tone is negative about the jabs. e.g. on the JJ Watt Twitter thread. https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status/1610659164769902593 The pro-vax bots must be tired out, poor things.

The Demonic Reformation

[frittermywig]

Seventy-four weeks of discussion at Ecosophia have helped lead me to this conclusion: The most apt historical comparison for our era is the Protestant Reformation. What we are seeing is the opening movement of the Demonic Reformation.

In 1995, Pope John Paul II described a 'culture of death' in the western world. Since then, that fringe culture has gained the institutional and economic clout to challenge western Christian-humanist social hegemony.

In the Demonic Reformation, there are new sacraments (jabs!) new dietary laws (bugs!) and a new moral imperative to virtuously speak up for death and sterility, for war and oppression, for fear and disease.



Thoughts?

Re: The Demonic Reformation

[(Anonymous)]

There is a podcaster called Matt Christman, he is part of Chapo Trap House which is very left leaning. I believe they do have a blind spot for COVID as a heads up, though I have not listened in many months so maybe that is shifting.

But, for many years Matt has been describing what you have mentioned above in other terms. If I recall correctly he also believes that the Protestant Reformation is the closest connection to now largely because it was a complete upheaval of people's mental models and many truly believed they were witnessing and bringing about the end of the world, major environmental change (mini ice-age) further reaffirmed this for people.

I would expand your Demonic Reformation to include an environmental and personal identity/expression component and I'm sure many others can expand the new sacraments.

[(Anonymous)]

Pennsylvania has dropped covid off the main page for the department of health. It used to be in the banner image, and have a big headline just below with get vaccinated to stop the spread etc. Now it is a tiny link that says "coronavirus".

Stats show that now 1.8 million people (out of whole state population of 12 million) have gotten the bivalent booster, so that's likely 15% of adults or more. Crazy!

unvaccinated blood donors

[milkyway1]

I just came across this project here (courtesy of a link at theautomaticearth.com):

https://safeblood.ch/en

It was started by a Swiss guy. The aim is in a first step to refer unvaccinated blood donors locally, and also to have a list of medical facilities who will allow their patients free choice of their donors.

In a second step, they are thinking about setting up actual blood banks.

All this is aiming world-wide. I‘m in no way affiliated with the project, and can‘t vouch for it, but the website looks legit, and the FAQ reads very sensible. The aim is international cover, and apparently there are already contacts in various countries.

Maybe that‘s of interest to some people here…

Milkyway