ecosophia | Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 162

In last week's post towards the end of the cycle, I had brief exchange with another poster who told me that he suspects that a lot of doctors realize the Covid vaccines are just no good. I thought that might be a good jumping-off point for talking about how the Covid vaccines affected my professional relationship with both my previous and present doctors.

At my last appointment with my previous doctor before she was shuffled off by our local corporate healthcare provider to another clinic, she made the expected obligatory effort to get me to take this therapy, and I expressed my misgivings because the former brother-in-law of a co-worker died within 48 hours of receiving the second shot. She tried to impress on me the importance of getting the quaxxine nonetheless, and I could tell this was probably largely because of the corporate healthcare provider's efforts to impress upon their doctors that these shots were supposedly the greatest medical intervention since penicillin. This was in mid-2021. I promised her I would think about it, even though my mind was already thoroughly made up, but it probably didn't much matter as it was our last appointment.

Fast forward to mid-2022. My new doctor made what I thought was a surprisingly half-hearted attempt to get me to take the shots, and she did, I thought, resort to some gas-lighting to do so. But she didn't press the issue, and my conclusion was that this was because she figured out that anyone who didn't want the shots at that point after all the bullying and pressure campaigns very seriously didn't want it.

This post was from me, Mr. Nobody. I need to keep an eye out for when Dreamwidth randomly logs me out.

Edited 2024-09-10 16:24 (UTC)

I don't go to doctors unless I'm dying so I haven't had the opportunity. But in reports like this, I desperately WANT the next line to be:

"Do you get paid more if I say yes?"

and:

"Are you allowed to tell the truth or are you being monitored? Blink twice if you can't say it out loud."

I feel like we should treat all doctors, at this point, as though they are potentially in a hostage situation, and it's our job to figure out if they're willing participants or just trying to keep their jobs because they have med school debt to pay off.

"I feel like we should treat all doctors, at this point, as though they are potentially in a hostage situation..."

I love it! Also, I shall remember it! :)

If you ever try it, I want a full debriefing. :)

'Blink twice if you can't say it out loud.'

hahahahah. love it.

'Blink twice if you need me to call for backup.'
'What?'
'Just blink twice if necessary...'
'Excuse me, Mr. _______?'
'Callahan. Harry Callahan.'

I think that is a very good explanation as to why so many of them are in lockstep on this despite the mountains of evidence to the contrary.

Just my take on it is that it is no longer worth the risk of going to see a doctor anymore. Even if I had the money to pay for insurance, I don't think I should feed the beast of corporate medicine anyway. It struck me as too ironic to sell off the rest of my good years and likely my health at a job just to cover health insurance. Freedom is looking to have far more rewards and far fewer risks than we are being told. Gee, I wonder why?

re: "it is no longer worth the risk of going to see a doctor anymore."

My take exactly. It took a lot to get me to this point. A lot. In case anyone was wondering, I am an older person.

Yes, my thoughts exactly.

It also strikes me that the "sell" for insurance is exactly the same as the "sell" for vaccines.

"Stay safe, be protected, THINK of all the risks out there. THINK HARD about all the terrible times you might have, and then let this PRODUCT give you peace of mind."

The world IS risky, but can we live well, while letting the world be its (sometimes) risky self?

That is a question to ponder, and when we discovered we could, it was very liberating.

I'm more inclined to treat doctors as though I'm in a hostage situation, and it's my job to get out of there by any means possible.

Even more so if you have kids! With schools and their mandatory waxxines, it's your children that are being held hostage. It's horrible.

And people wonder why nobody wants to have kids anymore.

LOL, yeah. This is why if I ever had to go to the hospital for something like a broken leg, I would lie like the dickens, and say I'd had my jabs. I'm perfectly fine with lying when it might save my life.

- Older Person

Back when I still “did doctors” 10 or 15 years ago, during a yearly physical my doctor reviewed my bloodwork printout and suggested “Perhaps we should start you on statins to bring your cholesterol numbers down.” As an athlete and low-BMI individual who had read up on the negative effects of statins, I replied with a firm “No.” He seemed fine with that, and not surprised by my response. Even at the time, it felt like he had read his proposal from a script he didn’t believe in. Wish I’d known then about the “blink twice” suggestion!

I don't understand. If it is clear that the doctors are lying (which is what gaslighting is), why go? These are people who are actively trying to hurt you... I just don't get it.

1) your employer requires it.
Some jobs have mandatory health standards for their employees (eg pilots). Annual checkups, surveys and tests.

2) learn from my naivete, people, if this might be relevant to you. A few years ago I broke a bone and applied for a temporary parking permit so I would not have to walk for blocks on crutches when friends drove me somewhere.

Once recovered I discovered I had to submit a bill-of-health survey to the roads authority in order to be able to keep my own driver's licence (which had never been revoked anyway). BUT in that survey were questions on all sorts of other conditions unrelated to the injury and stupidly I answered them honestly. There are two lifelong conditions, that never had an effect on my clean driving record, which have flagged me to require a doctor's clearance annually ever since or lose my licence. I have a choice: go to the doctor or not be able to drive legally. That is not practical in my circumstances.

Circumspection would have been very beneficial there.

- iridescent scintillating elver

To all those who responded with rationale for going to the doctor -- got it!
Fwiw, a close relative of mine is a pilot. He and all his co-workers have one specific doctor that they go to, even if they have to drive an hour to get to the doctor. This reminds me of a former co-worker who drove her dogs to a vet 90 minutes away because that was the only vet who would give heartworm prevention medicine (ivermectin + some other stuff) without doing the $100+ each heartworm test on her two dogs. She had always used the medication, no need for the test... but vets around here won't give it without the test. This was before I found out that farm stores sell the stuff without a vet's prescription...

Anyway, long story short, I guess my question is not so much why go to the doctor as why go to that doctor? But I get that it may not be possible to drive long distances, may not be possible to go to someone outside insurance, etc. What is really happening is my frustration is showing. Close relatives of mine who believed in the medical cartel went to doctors who either actively killed them or helped the process along -- while applying maximum pain and suffering. My angst is showing. I wish all who responded the best and maximum protection as they deal with doctors.

I drive an hour and a half each way to my "red pilled" acupuncturist. I pay cash. Insurance-taking doctors, like the ones I used to trust in their pre-spikeshot-pushing days, they're about as appealing to me as Beelzebub in a suit of putrid fish flakes.

While the topic of subjective minds is up, let me mention that that image appeals to me quite a lot (visuals only, thanks, no olfactory necessary :)

- iridescent scintillating elver

That has more to do with how few doctors there are that have the FAA blessing to give out medical certificates than whether or not they like or trust the doctor in question. And in most cases because it's kind of a pain to get to the medical examiner, he tends not to be your primary doctor, if you have one at all.

And if you're an airline pilot, they can only go to extra-specially-blessed doctors for their extra-special exams (there's technical jargon here I'm translating for you). So, yeah, he's driving an hour each way because he has no choice in the matter.

Thank you for this, iridescent scintillating elver. I appreciate the reminder: the less I tell the government the better, and to keep my medical history to myself to the utmost degree possible. My previous pre-2020 self would have viewed my current self as all get-out paranoid about offering any of my medical history to doctors and/or to the government. But, Holy Toledo, it's 2024.

On this note, I would love to be able to take my dog with me to more places and when I've said so in casual conversation, more than once I've had people tell me, why don't you get a certification for your dog as a therapy dog? It's easy to do, apparently, there are doctors who, for their fee, will issue the docs for a therapy pet like candy. And furry cutie pie gets a special therapy pet halter and can come into restaurants and public transport and such. But guess what, then it's on your permanent record that you have a challenge that requires a therapy pet. No thanks.

CHICKEN SOUP FLOGGER

I am a type 2 diabetic. Untreated type 2 diabetes leads to a lingering, unpleasant eventual death. And I'm not interested in reading the usual slurry of ignorant and mental-illness-tinged responses one can generally count on garnering when one mentions type 2 diabetes on pretty much any unmoderated Internet forum.

Edited 2024-09-11 10:10 (UTC)

Mr Nobody1967,
Many blessings on you, if you will have them.

Your health is your own, and it is nobody's business how you manage. Full stop, end of sentence.

That said, I am thankful to hear everything shared here. It keeps a person lively, to hear many points of view!

Be well, stay free! :)

FWIW there was a discussion about diabetes many months ago with the lady poster Methylated(?).

My wife knew she had a potential diabetes issue from company-paid checkups for many years... she tried to control it with diet and exercise, yet a year ago she was confirmed as full-on T2 diabetic and put on metformin 2X a day. At that point, I got involved and slowly tweaked her supplementation.. cycled off metformin after 3 months.. and started to reduce the amount of supplements as internal metabolic dysfunction was resolved. So just this past week, her blood sugar readings were in the 5.5 to 5.9 range (normal 4-7), so can safely declare that we pretty much reversed it.

If you're interested we should take the discussion offline as I would need to know more details before working out a possible protocol for you.

Yes, in my country, most healthcare professionals now either actively avoid discussion of the topic of the vaccines, certainly do not force them on people, and an increasing few will say (never in writing) that they don't really stack up.

Flus are hitting worse this year than covid anyway.

I am fortunate in having encountered several health professionals who were willing to express overt covid vaccine scepticism with me.

One was a respected allergist who I consulted after I had an immediate allergic reaction to first Moderna shot in 2021. He advised me to avoid all future mRNA vaccines, and get the J&J covid vaccine if I wished or needed to have "fully vaccinated" status re covid (during a time when this was considered important).

He also said that evaluation of hydoxychloriquine treatment for covid was faulty, because it was tested on late stage patients, which had poor results, and was then dismissed by the mainstream. It should have been tested as an early stage treatment in his opinion, where front line clinical results had shown efficacy.

More recently, my neuro Nurse Practioner told me that she will no longer get covid boosters because of the vaccine side effects she has seen in her patients.

I am grateful to have encountered these professionals, and as I need to have access to mainstream care for neuro & immune issues, they are helpful & supportive resources.

La Petite

Thank you for sharing this, La Petite, this is encouraging.

I heard from my cousins in Spain that their doctor said, when the vaxxes first appeared: 'I'm not allowed to say anything against them, but you do know that they are not really vaccines, don't you?' And left it at that.

Apparently, this doctor is rather unorthodox and by no means a pill-pusher, actually attracting complaints from patients for recommending changes in diet, herbs, good sleep and exercise, etc, rather than sending them home with a bag-full of pills.

There's only one doctor in town here who's worth a darn. He's willing to discuss lifestyle changes and alternative treatments, but he's also more than a little jaded because most of his patients just want pills.

He has some books, which he wrote, in the waiting room. There's a section in one of them about how people with colds mostly just need to stay home and rest; but patients don't pay a doctor to hear that - they don't feel like they're getting their money's worth unless they get some pills.

He can often be heard saying things like "you want some drugs? That'll make you happy, right? How many do you want? Two? Three?"

A saccharin-sweet article about Dr. Mark Ghaly, who “…led the Newsom administration's response to the COVID-19 pandemic”, and how he is stepping down from his California post by the end of this month:
https://calmatters.org/health/2024/09/mark-ghaly-california-covid/

The article up front says: “When some in the public criticized Newsom’s pandemic rules as overreaching, Ghaly was often responsible for explaining the reasoning and the science behind the state’s decisions.”

All the way at the end of the article are these gems: “Newsom and Ghaly have defended their policies by saying they saved lives in an unprecedented pandemic. Newsom has acknowledged he would have opened up the state earlier if he had today’s understanding of the virus when he made those decisions.” “I think we would’ve done everything differently”, said Newsom.

Oh, that’s nice.

Ghaly is leaving to “…focus a little bit more on himself and his kids…”

Sorry; I know that particular ‘reason’ is one of the most BLEAH-producing excuses for leaving a position of power in the entire Western World. 😑😒

Newsom and Ghaly have defended their policies by saying they saved lives in an unprecedented pandemic

That statement is demonstrably false. It's a good thing we don't have journalists anymore, or somebody might call him out on it.

JMG,
I totally agree that greed and incompetence played major roles in the Covid response, but it is hard for me to attribute it all to greed and incompetence. It looks to me like some powers took advantage of the tremendous amount of greed and incompetence. The attack on western civ seems too well coordinated. Curios if you believe the response was totally due to greed and incompetence or just want to focus the discussion that way to keep in manageable.
Bob

You're leaving out arrogance, which is at least as important! It does still seem to me that arrogance, greed, and incompetence are the most likely explanations for the Covid fiasco. As for an assault on Western civilization, I would argue that if anybody's assaulting Western civilization, it's Western civilization. That's how civilizations fall, you know -- they become corrupt, decadent, and (that word again) arrogant; they abandon all the virtues that once gave them strength, and embrace the vices that drag them down; then, as the consequences of their own arrogant, greedy, and incompetent actions overwhelm them, they shriek, "Why is everyone else in the world attacking us?"

I don't claim there was a grand conspiracy, but...

Sure, the governments and corporations at all levels were full of petty tyrants eager to lord it over everybody, among other reasons. Greed, incompetence, arrogance, yes on all three. I think most of the people involved in this ongoing fiasco probably still believe the nonsense they have been fed.

But I strongly suspect that some of the more active proponents of covid hysteria, especially high-level folks like the Faucis and Lauterbachs, and a collection of people in the pharma and media companies, probably knew what they were doing. I.e. they knew the problem was overblown and the solutions they were hawking were ineffective and harmful; they knew that they were lining their own pockets, favoring big business and crushing small businesses for spurious reasons; etc. Of course, they also thought their plans would go smoothly and the plebs were too stupid to notice - more of that incompetence and arrogance there.

This seems entirely plausible to me. As I noted in my original hypothesis, the vaccines may have been pushed as hard as they were at first for wholly corrupt, dishonest, and mercenary reasons by people who knew perfectly well that Covid wasn't the dire disease they claimed, but saw the vaccine as a massive cash cow if only people could be conned into getting an annual booster.

Yeah, the degree of actual coordination is debatable, but lack of coordination doesn't mean everyone was acting in good faith. At the lower levels, it took a lot of bad actors to make this whole thing happen, but the individual incentives were aligned for them to go along with it even if they knew it was wrong. Most of them would probably never admit it, even to themselves.

If you're deep in debt, and you need that medical license to swing the payments, someone uses the threat of taking that medical license away, tell me you wouldn't be like Michigan J Frog singing "Hello my honey, hello my baby, hello my ragtime gaaaal", if they ordered you to.

This is a good point. And it actually ties in with the hostage joke further up in the discussion.

In the US at least (I can't speak to other countries), college and med school are very expensive, and a lot of medical professionals are surely carrying student loan debt and can't afford to lose their jobs and be without income for a while. It also makes any sort of kickback of payoffs much more tempting. Not only that, but doctors tend to come from the middle and upper middle classes, aka the PMC, and status consciousness and conformity are deeply ingrained.

So you have people who are conformist by selection, to whom status is very important, and who on top of that are often paying off student loans and terrified of losing their income. It is indeed a kind of hostage situation, even if many of the chains are in their minds.

The kind of people who can jump through all the hoops required, I call them "box checkers". I saw a lot of them in my youth, doing their dead level best to make it into the Ivy Leagues, but it applies just as well to lower tier medical school. Not just doctors either. Ted Cruz is a poster boy for the "box checker" type. Hardworking, diligent, attentive to detail, and given well defined goals, will accomplish them. Question of when, not if.

Not the kind of person who does well though when dealing with unusual or unexpected events, where improvisation is required. Bad at diagnosis, where part of figuring out what is going wrong, is to use your intuition. These are specialists, not generalists, tend to have a narrow view of things, seeing only the trees and not the forest. There are a fraction of people who make it to the Ivy League levels who have good general intelligence, but they are a minority, IMHO.

Bottom line, those kind of people are easy to manipulate and control. Do not trust them too much, especially in this era. They are not your friends. Treat them the same way you'd treat the HVAC guy, read reviews and if it looks like he isn't working out, fire him and replace him with someone who will.

Medical system is collapsing anyway (along with everything else it seems). Get used to DIY.

However, if it was just fraud, wouldn't it have been easier and more profitable to just push saline solution with a few simple cheap feel-good chemicals in it? I mean, if the goal is to get as much money from the suckers as possible, you'd kind of want it to be safe and ineffective but acts like it is effective. At least for a short while. Sort of like those Goody's powders, which are a real scam, if you ask me. That would've been the ideal pharma-quack model to base the "vaccines" off of.

That's not what we got is it? It's dangerous and ineffective. Very dangerous. To use the Goody's powder analogy, they spiked it with cocaine and methamphetamine and whatever experimental chemicals they had on hand. Maybe it is just arrogance at play but there may be more sinister motivations as well. Us peasants may never know though.

I believe the greed portion of this comes in the sense that they thought they were setting up a future platform for all MRNA vaccines that would work more like computer software updates than traditional vaccines and thus the only cost incurred would be to "update" the rna strands rather than invest researching eachnew pathogen. So there was short term greed in trying to push on everyone now and long term greed by trying to experiment with a new platform of vaccines that would be more "cost-effective ".

It might work if you are looking to shortcut ways on manufacturing boots, construction materials, even food products (at least where the downsides of such cheap products can be written off to the larger populaces' poor choices) but when it comes to molecular data and the blueprint of physical life... it's best not to take shortcuts.

Software updates is a good analogy. Ive noticed this in the way that people love to talk about thir most recent jab like its exactily that, an update for a robot. Either its faustian culture doing cyborg cosplay, or Im interpreting phenonema through my own faustian lense!

Eamonn

I still think that part of it was the Shadow of Polio and the success they had with that. They were gambling that, if it worked, they'd have a newer way to create "protections against diseases" and a thankful public placing them as The Apex of Society™️ to boot.

–Donald C. Hargraves

Well the story of the "success" with polio vaccines is a more than a bit of a sticky (and stinky) wicket once starts to get past the surface-level propaganda.

Call me an anti-vaxxer. I didn't start out this way, however. As late as 2022 I was prefacing my skepticism about the nature of and safety and efficacy of the covid jabs with, "I'm not an anti-vaxxer but..."

What is undisputed, in my view, is that in early 2021, when the jabs rolled out for the general public, the general public firmly believed that vaccines, and in particular, polio and smallpox vaccines, worked and they were a most wonderful scientific advancement for improving human health. The word "vaccine" had a tremendously positive connotation for most people. And those who were pushing the experimental gene jabs with the mRNA platform took full advantage of the public's naiveté, both about those previous vaccines' safety and effectiveness, and the nature of the covid injections themselves (which are not actually vaccines, as that word was previously defined).

I think you are quite right that the shadow of polio was a very important part of the enthusiasm for the vaccines, and especially for older people.

"Maybe it is just arrogance at play but there may be more sinister motivations as well. Us peasants may never know though."

If the only goal was to roll out the mRNA technology, the regulatory agencies are so corrupt they could have done that in another few years anyway, and then slowly switched over all vaccines to mRNA. No need for the totalitarian overkill that was covid.

"...conned into getting an annual booster"

I suspect this is from the same mindset that has created the somewhat Schwab-like 'Software-as-a-Service' SaaS™ model: https://www.gartner.com/smarterwithgartner/moving-to-a-software-subscription-model

That these mRNA injectables are looking downright dangerous probably just doesn't compute when there are punters to perpetually profit from.

We speak of arrogance and greed, but given mention of Fauci and his ilk, how about a vote for vanity or 'vanagloria' too.

It all be helpful to keep in mind the role of the US Department of Defense in this affair. In appreciating that role and those who played it, the intentions of those ultimately responsible will take shape.

I'm still on the lookout for any hypothesis that explains who the people are that never fell for the Covid narrative, that odd minority without any obvious commonality. A partial train of thought from JMG's lessons:

Owing to a deficit of mammalian bodies, many souls are being reincarnated in human bodies before they might otherwise be ready.

We see the herd-like behavior. We see the 180-degree flip flopping on what are supposed to be people's most deeply held values.

Here's an element that I think has been under-discussed on the Covid Posts: There is a subjective mind in each of us, attuned to pulsations, that connects us via the Unseen to other people and to larger forces.

The subjective mind gives us a mechanism through which the herd mentality manifests. Is that a lens that can give us insight into the mass behavior of Covidtide? Three hypotheses present themselves about the reason that some people were resistant to the narrative:
* maybe we have a different quality of soul
* maybe our subjective minds were attuned too strongly to something else for the herd connection to take hold
* maybe our subjective minds were in some way broken that they didn't receive the herd messages

I appreciate any feedback, particularly from those further along the occult studies path than I am.

Edited (typo) 2024-09-11 12:21 (UTC)

One other hypothesis I've recently formulated is that we are not actually in the minority, but it only looks that way as a result of internet powered gas-lighting. The mystery goes away if most people saw through it, but had a very hard time realizing it, because it looked like almost everyone else bought it...

Here in Britain, I recall the MSM headlines at the time about the first boosters - the third shot - and how they gave the impression that everyone was going to have one quite naturally 'like topping up a depleted battery'.

Everyone I knew had one, and was delighted about it - above all, because they were needed to fly abroad on vacation. A long queue snaked through the town square here in Cambridge to attend the pop-up clinic. It was intensely depressing to witness, and I felt somewhat cowardly for not attempting to say something to those lining up.

However, even the official figures, probably inflated, show that nearly half of those eligible in fact declined, contradicting my personal impressions. I suspect this was due to the experience of nasty side-effects more than anything else.

And yet, since then, I've met no one who condemns or disparages the Covid vaxxes in daily conversation, and have only met with eye-rolls when passing on a warning, from a senior medic friend, to the elderly or pregnant not to take them. People relate the death of the elderly shortly after a booster, or how they are always sick themselves, without making the connection.

Yes, I've heard people talking about it without making the connection, I find it bizarre. I commented last week on this forum that someone I had warned about the jabs-- twice, very directly-- then comes and tells me about this friend who got turbo cancer and etc etc etc etc-- and how the doctors are just baffled as to what toxin could possibly have caused it. Baffled! So baffled!

Yeah, I got the eye rolls when I tried to warn people, too.

I have a very close friend I thought I had lost to this insanity. I wrote about it here early this summer.

https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/284505.html?thread=49357657#cmt49357657

So we spoke last week, good long conversation. Dug deep like only old friends can. When we came to the subject of 'died suddenly' I addressed the elephant in the room. My friend was not fazed. I think before this, he would have waved me away. Death has a funny way of changing people, at least those willing to think. Mentioned Ed Dowd and 'Cause Unknown.' Doubt my friend will run out and buy it, but he listened intently. That's enough for me.

I'm definitely not further along than you in occult studies, but my suggestion would be to look at people's natal chart; maybe there are commonalities in the placement of their Uranus (the rebel/maverick) and/or Moon (attunement to the collective/herd mentality).

I'll make the same disclaimer, indeed I don't do any occult studies. That said, I'll agree with your take on Uranus, as I've got 4 planets in Aquarius, most of them squared to Uranus and with father sky at the Asc/MC midpoint (I applied for a job in an astrology shop a long time ago; the owner took a look at my chart, said "you'll never do what you're told" and sent me packing...I couldn't really say much in my defence to that!), and my Moon at the end of Capricorn is widely square Uranus, too.

It should also be noted that in the EU, the country with the lowest uptake of gene therapy shots was Bulgaria; a Bulgarian friend told me that this is because it's not so long ago that the country was a communist dictatorship, and most people there still think of the government as at best a form of mafia, at worst actively working against the interests of its citizens, so there is a strong tendency to not believe a word they say.

On a personal note, I used to meditate a bit and had a moment that I can only explain as a direct experience of the Creator; I think this rendered me somewhat immune to human bullshale, mostly my own, but others too.

Moon square Uranus here, too, with Uranus in the 1st house. I don't think that makes me specially special, except in the usual Uranian way 😉

Uranus in the 1st house as well, and its the best or second most dignified planet in my chart to boot. I remember JMG mentioning his Uranus in the 1st too, perhaps an angular, rulership, exalted, or amply aspected one could explain this tendency. Luminaries or many planets in Aquarius could also plausibly do it, though multiple friends have three of those and still got the shot, so its not a hard and fast rule.

I think these hypotheses are plausible; they don't necessarily exclude each other.

I hate to say it, frittermywig, but your post does convey a kind of "we're specially special" attitude. Perhaps there's no group characteristic, but rather a whole lot of qualities in a vast array that in some folks manifested as "Nope, not gonna do that."

Or perhaps I should just speak for myself - I am pretty certain I have at least once in my life fallen prey to "herd mentality" and there is nothing specially special about me except this time around I heeded a certain other herd that was whispering about the questionable-ness of all the covidiocy.

I hear you, temporaryreality, but as I read it, this question is not about what makes me so special, but why is it that so many other people cannot see what I can see as obvious? I don't necessarily have to place myself on a pedestal as specially special to want to ask that question and sincerely wish for an answer. It was and is extremely upsetting and painful to have been so isolated and betrayed by my colleagues, long-time friends, and even my own family members who would happily seen me shamed and impoverished for not having taken those Warp Speed gene juice jabs.

I would love to get some insight into the matter not to relish in my specially specialness, but to be able to avoid such ugly surprises in the future.

It was danged ugly.

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In answer to frittermywig's question, I do not believe that this a question that can be answered with the information that we can normally access. My own perception is that it has much to do with experiences in previous lifetimes, and the life plan for this incarnation, as well as interventions from the unseen.

thank you for telling me how you hear the question, anonymous commenter. That's helpful, and causes me to remember that I was most likely "immunized" against the truthiness by having experienced veterinary incompetence, gaslighting, and utter lack of curiosity or interest in other ideas, right at the start of 2020. I was hopping mad and spurred to make my own informed decisions to save my deathly ill cat (it worked!) and there was no looking back as that year unfolded.

May I also add that I'm sorry those around you so revealed their loyalties to the narrative, at your expense.

Yes I believe experience of previous gaslighting, and that would include experiences both in this and in other lifetimes, must be an important factor.

I think also that being in touch with and--I would underline the word "and"— respecting one's own intuition / gut sense had much to do with rejecting the jabs.

Finally, I would also think that the ability to distinguish one's own thoughts from spiritual guidance, and also being able to distinguish spiritual guidance as coming from a higher rather than a lower level, are also crucial.

It seems to me that many people do not have a clue that they do in fact get thoughts popping into their minds that are not their own. Our culture labels that mental illness-- but I don't think so, I think it's a reality; we all connect in some way to the astral plane. It's a wild and busy place. But some people attract and allow more into their minds than others, and some are more savvy (or naive) about what they attract and what they allow.

Many people on this forum reported hearing voices in their minds encouraging them to take the jabs. Where exactly such voices were coming from I am not sure. I did not hear them.

Self-described Psychic Medium

This is from Egon Fischer's latest (translated):

A very big problem is that the dark side can also energetically create "info clouds", which suggest certain thoughts to people in the affected area. This means that people experience thoughts that are not actually their thoughts. If you are very mindful and know your thoughts and the quality of your "normal" thoughts, you can see that you are being manipulated with external thoughts. Several weeks ago, in my opinion, the area where I live was massively flooded with "death / suicide thoughts". I have known the phenomenon of being manipulated with other people's thoughts for years. But the intensity between then and now is no longer comparable. In the past, such thoughts were only "suggested" to you and you could very easily just ignore the thought. Currently, on some days you are massively bombarded with destructive thoughts.

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A commentator said this:

The infiltration of thoughts that seem to be your own was already very strong in 2020. Suddenly, out of nowhere, the thought could appear in your head that it would make a lot of sense to get vaccinated. For some time now, as Susanne Lohrey writes, we have been inundated with very destructive approaches.

If you haven't heard of this before, here's a little guide on how to deal with it: When such a destructive thought arises, you immediately consider whether you have a reason for it. It could be money worries or a serious illness. If that's not the case, you tell yourself that these are not your own thoughts, that they are not internally caused. This analytical thinking is often enough to drive away the destructive thoughts.

If there is a reason for it, as described above, you make clear to yourself what the worst that can happen is. This is usually less drastic than the lethal solution. Then you think about strategies for solving your current problem. The brain is also busy with this, so that thoughts disappear.

Another danger is the thought that you no longer feel like working or can no longer motivate yourself to do anything. Physical exercise usually helps, even if it is just a short walk.

TL;DR - Asafoetida Powder, maybe you can just think about it when you're in trouble.

Oh my, oh my. I have been bombarded by thoughts like these recently. I'm not glad to hear this is a shared experience, but it makes sense now. I did recognize them as external when they occurred in the last few weeks. I know how to banish so I wasn't overwhelmed with worry that I would get taken in by it, but it was very unpleasant. It has been so long since I saw a thought like that, I was surprised by it.

Thanks to our host here, I began the daily SOP about 6 or 7 years ago. Thanks to this blog and commenters, I added in daily prayer 3-4 years ago. So I banish a lot and have largely cleared out the worst negative outside influences. I also have an understanding that destructive thoughts such as those are external so whenever I walk into one (it is like walking into a fog), I immediately banish and it works.

Years ago, I got some Asafoetida powder after reading the ENM. I used it so much to clear my house that I ran out and couldn't get back to the Indian grocery for a while so I just started thinking "Asafoetida!" when in an external bad energy cloud and it works for me. I can clear out the intrusive thoughts instantly. I am also a plant liking person so maybe other's mileage would vary.

The recent group of thoughts, if tied to what is above, still got through the SOP and prayer. Admittedly, I have been busy lately so maybe my daily routine was every other day for the last few weeks. I had to sling the "Asafoetida!" at the thoughts a few times. Then it went away. I'm making sure I'm keeping the SOP and prayer daily now to be on the safe side.

FWIW, why would I be in the target group? I don't know. Location? Gender? Voting intentions? I'd be interested to learn more.

In response to your question at the end, "why would I be in the target group?" I suspect that this isn't targeting any particular individual, rather, it is something akin to some dude casting for a haul of little fish with a very big net.

I say, I suspect. I do not actually know. But this is my operating assumption because, from the beginning of all this covidian nonsense in 2020, and increasingly as we head towards the end of 2024, I sense that behind all the doings of the human actors we hear so much about (Bill Gates, Dr. Fauci etc etc), there is some kind of nonhuman intelligence that is startlingly intelligent and powerful and yet, simultaneously, if this makes sense, really stupid.

Most people, most of the time, think thoughts that are not their own. They get their thoughts from the media, from their parents, from their friends, from all the usual sources -- and also from various subtle sources. Learning to think your own thoughts is a difficult challenge and one that many people find acutely uncomfortable!

Thomas Alva Edison, so it is said, had this saying posted in all his laboratory spaces:

"There are no artifices to which a man will not resort to avoid the hard work of thinking."

After many decades in academia, I would say that even many academics are not exceptions to this wise saying.

On point.

The adult too-long-to-read crowd who many of which in young school days were the bullies and their go-along happy or cowed allies with inferiority complexes who loved to chant, "Teacher's pet!" to try demean, diminish, and hurt those who liked to read, study, think and debate. I recall the day in fifth grade at a new school my eyes were opened wide to that psychopathic behavior and decided those bullies and their allies were out of my life forever. That was the day I saw them for who they truly are as I sat down to eat lunch with the girl in my class they all picked on mercilessly for being "too tall." A kind, smart, and gentle girl whose mother told mine that my birthday party for all the girls in my class was the first her daughter had ever been invited to.

My parents had already taught me by first grade never to be a victim. Follow the Golden Rule. Always be a warrior and sheepdog. So, in my case it was family ethics training - plus a lot of scientific education - that set me up by March 2020 not to fall for the fear-porn, bully garbage government and media narratives. Plus my school days experience to know I'd be in a teeny tiny minority in my community.

W.R.

"maybe our subjective minds were in some way broken that they didn't receive the herd messages"

I think this is probably applicable to me. I've never gotten engrossed in a concert, a wedding, or a sports game. Often I experience a few seconds of 'lag' when dealing with a social situation I don't have a preset response for.

Interesting point.

I was one of the people who said that I thought part of the reason I didn't get caught up in Cootie Mania was because I was raised by a narcissistic parent, and the covid-related manipulation tactics all felt really, really familiar.

But now that you mention it, I've also never gotten engrossed in the things you mention either.

I can watch a live sporting event and appreciate the skill and strategy of the players, but I can't really get caught up in caring who wins. (What difference does it really make? It's just a game.) Needless to say, I also lacked "school spirit" my entire educational career. Yes, if I knew people on the school team I would wish them well, and I can understand how playing sports could be fun for the participants, but in the back of my mind, I always knew that I could have just as easily wound up at a different school/college and be expected to cheer for them instead, so why was everyone so invested in who won? It all seemed kind of arbitrary. Weddings don't move me; I always feel a bit detached form what feels like a stage show to me. I can enjoy staged shows (theater, film), but I know it's not real.

I tend to find politics to be surreal as well - looking around thinking, why is everyone so worked up about this? Whoever gets elected will get elected and there will be some consequences either way and we'll have to deal with them and life will go on. (shrug)

Looking back, I've always been a bit "detached" for lack of a better word. Even as a child, I remember other kids getting caught up in things while I was standing there thinking "how odd".

I'm not un-emotional - I have, for example, cried at funerals and burials, but that's more directly related to a personal emotional response that would have existed even in isolation. (I ALREADY FELT grief, I wasn't just RESPONDING to the event, if that makes sense.)

I don't know if all of this is somehow related to being raised by a narcissist, or if it's something else entirely.

I like "detachment" a lot. Like JMG, below, describing the effect of his autism ("no emotional connection"). This theme has been brought up before, but it's starting to sink in. I trace my own detachment to the broken homes of my childhood. This is an important element.

I've reflected on my own experience here, and found two factors that I think explain my own failure to be caught up in the herd mentality.

1) Autism. I like to joke that having the particular autism spectrum disorder I have means that I really, truly don't feel your pain. There's truth in the jest; one of the effects of my condition is that the "mirror neurons" that relay nonverbal communication, and enable experiences such as getting caught up in the emotional rush of the crowd at a sports game, never specialized for that purpose in my brain. Thus, for example, I find sports utterly dreary, because I feel no emotional connection either to the yelling crowd around me or to the overpaid guys down there on the field trying to do something or other with a ball.

2) Bad experiences with the medical industry. I've seen too many people I cared about hurt or killed by medical treatnemt, and never once did I see the perps suffer even the slightest consequence for what legally should count as negligent assault or manslaughter. That has given me a sourly suspicious attitude toward the medical industry, and a habit of doing my own research and asking hard questions before even considering medical treatment.

I can certainly relate to you about all "sportsball" games. If that's how people want to waste their time, then fine, but I just never saw any point to or anything truly useful in it.

This an interesting question that probably won't get answered for quite some time. I sensed from the outset that this event was descending through all planes from spirit to meat world with profound consequences that would last well past my current incarnation. Nothing added up in that the collective panic was disproportionate with the available facts.
I've come to understand that one defining attribute is how content a person was with the general trajectory of society. Upwardly mobile professionals seemed to be first in line to accept the narrative and proudly comply. The trades that I managed at the time overwhelmingly rejected the narrative and the treatment. Likewise, emotionally reflective or detached folks, myself included, (Moon in Virgo) just didn't go with the flow, being somewhat impervious to the fear and shame spewed 24/7 by the Big Giant Head.
Most importantly I think, for me at least, there was a clear spiritual guidance from multiple sources that the narrative was patently false.
Having first hand experience of the machinations of corporate society, being naturally detached emotionally, and receptive to spiritual guidance created the calm space to look at The Science objectively. It was a no brainer really.
Gawain

Hi Fritter,

I was skeptical because what I was seeing didn’t jibe with what we were being told. If Covid was as deadly as we were told, you wouldn’t have been able to get to the post office for all the ambulances and funerals clogging the streets. And then, even if the vaccine had been tested, it wouldn’t have helped. Covid is a coronavirus, like the common cold. They mutate too fast for vaccines to be feasible. (I recommend that everyone read Spillover, by David Quammen.)

I really hope the main cause of the fiasco was greed. It’s frightening to think that our rulers know less about public health than does a kitten in the Midwest.

—Princess Cutekitten

Not all of us unbelievers caught on right away. At first I pretty much went along with the narrative. I was frightened by threat of a virus. It took me a few months, almost a year to spot the giant gaping holes in its logic.

First it occurred to me that making people including the elderly stand outside in line in the rain and cold before letting them into a grocery store in order to protect their health didn’t make sense.

Then I learned about those paper masks that when you bought some it said right on the box “these masks do not prevent transmission of viral infections,” or words to that effect. That and seeing people driving alone with a mask on underscored the irrationality of forcing people to wear them.

I never believed in the silver bullet solution of a vaccine. It seemed too facile, too much of a foregone conclusion. Why couldn’t they explore any alternatives?

But what really clued me in to what was happening was the way the authorities and true believers behaved when the vaccines began to become available. The coercion, the name calling, the character assassination, the gaslighting, the censorship and suppression of not only alternative information but alternative treatments - when I saw these, I realized what a monster had been created.

So while people like Peter Deusberg and John Rappoport surely knew exactly what was unfolding before it really got started, it took me quite a while to work it all out.

It’s a good question

frittermywig. Even after all this time I still find myself an outlier in my views about the events of the last few years, which have been largely accepted and memory-holed by so many other people around me.

There isn’t a day that passes that I don’t ponder what the hell happened in 2020. However, I am starting to accept that I may never work out what it was all about. There are other mysteries to me too, such as the one whose commemoration date was yesterday.

As for your question, it happened that three of my closest friends, independently of me, came to the same conclusion about rejecting the pharmaceutical interventions that our governments so considerately offered to us.

We’re very different people but the one thing I think we all had in common was that when the events of 2020 hit us we were all somewhat already at odds with the society we lived in and still processing various traumas from earlier parts of our lives. None of us felt particularly happy or fulfilled at that point when the global sniffles struck.

Those people I know who did seem happy with their lives were more willing to believe that the government was acting in their interests and some of them even seemed to think that lockdown etc. was a merry jape. I remember one friend telling me enthusiastically how he had gone to an quackcination centre at close of day to ask them if they had any spare shots so he could get his early!

So, in short, myself and my refusenik friends were all a bit unhappy and feeling stuck at the time, had all experienced some kind of unresolved trauma and – we are probably all a wee bit “difficult”, if truth be told.

One final data point that may be more related to your subjective mind hypothesis – I notice that several of the bloggers, podcasters etc who were already on my radar at the time – such as Gordon White in Australia and of course our esteemed host here - also placed themselves in the questioning camp early on.

Even though I had not met them in person, I had unknowingly and fortuitously assembled, some years prior to the event, a small group of thinkers who would help me feel I was not alone and enabled me to solidify my own suspicions that something was far from right with the whole covid business.

To comment on your last paragraph—

For me the main "thinkers who would help me feel I was not alone and enabled me to solidify my own suspicions that something was far from right with the whole covid business" were John Michael Greer (our esteemed host) and James Howard Kunstler. I'd been reading them both regularly for some years already when 2020 struck, and thank goodness. They became my life rafts in this sea of covidian chaos and lunacy. So many other writers, they fell away, one after the other after the other (along with my friends and colleagues). I remember in 2021-2021 especially, it seemed that every week there was some writer / blog / podcast / magazine I'd been attending to for years that would emit some fascist kray-kray and, albeit startled, I would just sadly shrug, and say to myself, "Well, huh, another one gone." There were several bloggers and other writers whom I started reading ex-post (Coffee and Covid, A Midwestern Doctor, and others). But for me, JMG and Kunstler, they were and remain the main ones I read regularly.

Cetiosaurus

Thank you for this. I'm delighted to hear that I was able to help.

I wish to chime in to say that Cetiosaurus spoke for me too. Thank you, John Michael Greer, for your generously sharing your knowledge and giving me the confidence to stand alone. The website I no longer read is Naked Capitalism (NC) due to their response to Covid 19 "issue." However, I'm grateful for NC for one huge thing: NC introduced me to your wonderful writing.

Seconded. I have the incredible advantage of having two very, very anti vaccine relatives who also would have bailed me out of any, and I mean any consequences of refusing the vax if they could. That said, I still felt shaken and emotionally paralyzed for three years straight, like a confused animal gazing up at a storm from within a cage. JMG already had done me two services by convincing me that the world was not matter alone, and by introducing me to astrology, a practice which has changed my perception of reality, become the basis of my prayer life, and might even become a career. This third service was simple but not easy; his firm, utterly logical reactions kept me steady through the great spiritual test of a chronic illness flareup starting in 2017, combined with this terrible, crushing pressure to destroy one's health with the vaccine and succumb to fear over covid beginning in 2020. While I never, ever would have been foolish enough to take an experimental vaccine while suffering from lifelong chronic illness, I might have had a mental breakdown or set myself back further from the sheer pain of isolation and lost time. Thank you, JMG. I hope the enormous help you've given me and others will uplift you and your wife's spirit seven times over. You deserve it.

As a side note Cetiosaurus, I've enjoyed every long comment I've ever seen of yours on the blog, and even been quite moved by some of them. I only pop in sometimes nowadays, but even if I'm only seeing a small fraction, that's a darned good record. Kudos.

-Derpherder

Agree, 100%.

Kunstler's content unfortunately has drifted pretty far away from energy issues and seems to be mostly hating on "the blob" and repetitively railing against the security state as an extension of the Democratic party these days. I still read him sometimes, but he's long lost the focus on energy issues that made me want to read him much to begin with. And the comment sections...ugh.

Our esteemed host here is good at recognizing something that lets him maintain a loyal, enthusiastic argument: he is not a broken record. Week after week, it's something new. He doesn't get stuck preaching the same message over and over again. JMG, you probably don't need to be told that that's a big part of your appeal, but I'll happily tell you than it is. And I suspect you know that and do it on purpose :)

Thanks for all your thoughtful replies. I will give more consideration to role of astrology, and to what extent the sense of being a minority was exaggerated by the media. Overall, I guess we still have no Unified Field Theory of Covid-Narrative-Resistance. Since the beginning, we've had lots of unique stories with seemingly little common ground.

I feel like a having unifying theory is important, because it might help answer some pressing questions: Are the Covid-skeptics reliable-- that is, will we have the correct intuitions when the next crisis emerges? Do the Covid-skeptics have some knowledge, attribute or behavior that could be shared with or taught to the herd-driven Covid-enthusiasts?

Or even: Was our skepticism just a grace (Grace?) given but unearned? Is humble gratitude the right response (even if it's a grace that has come with painful costs)? Is this grace a call to renew whatever ministries of service and lovingkindness we have before us? I'll be grappling with these questions for the rest of my life, it seems.

I think it mostly comes down to whether you want to be told what to do, or want to take responsibility for your own life. Most humans just want an easy life, where someone else makes the decisions for them, without all the trouble of thinking for themselves.

This fits with what I have seen in my life.
Cetiosaurus

This, more than most other factors.... I called it the learnt helplessness mindset. Doctors are considered a desirable white-collar PMC profession, reinforced via entry restrictions.. we have TV dramas like House, The Good Doctor etc reinforcing the myth that we have brilliant doctors solving all kinds of medical issues like clockwork. On the rare occasions that I ended up in a place where such a medical drama was playing on the silly screen, I'd watch and start commenting, and soon enough people have to switch to another channel - coz I could point out that pretty much most of what they're saying was made-up or wrong, or the proper procedure should have been something else, and the stated cure didn't really work that fast or by itself etc. I kinda destroy the illusion pretty quickly... heheh. Yet when folks don't feel well, they are programmed to just 'see the doctor', even amongst the poeple in my freedom group, as they have been taught to 'reach for that' as a default rather than trusting themselves to figure out their own treatment.

Sidenote 1: About a week ago, yet another jab-pusher Tv presenter in Oz - Edwina Bartholomew (41), revealed on TV that she is suffering from Chronic Myeloid Leukemia. She repeats the mantra that the doctors tell her she will be fine as long as she takes care of herself and takes a daily pill. However, this is a rare blood disease which used to afflict only much older adults, so where is the curiosity that someone of her age, in an upper income bracket, would come down with it? So when the pill doesn't work (I'm guessing 50-50 in her situation since it's obvious her immune system is greatly compromised), the doctors will then gaslight her and say it's because she didn't take care of herself? But they would have gotten paid already...

Sidenote 2: I'm not sure if I mentioned this story, but I was quite asthmatic while growing up. My mom brought me to all the doctors.. had all the usual treatments / steriods and whatnot... I still got laidup in bed for a week or two at a time, gasping for air. Even then as a kid, I was consciously trying out different breathing patterns and techniques to try and get oxygen though I was taking it literally lying down. Years later, a lot of the local top doctors who were my classmates remembered that I often had to miss school due to my asthma, and when their own kids had childhood asthma, they asked me what I was doing for my kids.

Right on the dot, both my boys starting to have asthma at the age of 2... I knew subjecting them to the standard treatment protocols that I went through wasn't going to work. Part of me acceded to getting the latest prescription meds to hopefully help stave off fresh attacks, but I was actively working on a longer-term solution. As I explained to the doctor friends - during an asthma attack, the bronchial airways are being constricted, so maybe only 80% of capacity is available, and requires much greater effort to suck in air. Over time, the blood oxygen drops and the kid goes into distress. My solution? Start my kids on trail walks, and then trail runs. Short bike rides increased to longer ones. Keep building up that aerobic base by being active... so once their aerobic capacity reaches 120% of normal, when they do get an asthma attack, 80% of 120% = 97% of normal. So yah, even in the midst of an asthma attack, my boys could still run like normal, just slower. I saw it as a win-win, spending more time with the kids outdoors, building up their endurance and then not having to go through extended laid-up periods due to the asthma like I did. It's a solution that just took months to execute... I think we still have some inhalers somewhere for serious emergencies but they're probably decades past their expiry dates.

This is brilliant. Thanks for sharing this.

I don't think I can offer much about the subjective herd mind in this case as over the years it's effect on me seems to have lessened.

As I think about my own experience with the pandemic the thing that struck me most was the speed of the introduction of the vax. I couldn't understand how they could have tested it thoroughly in so short a time. Then, even thought the media was talking about the streets full of dead people, it just wasn't visible to me. Where were all these dead people?

I also had witnessed injuries done to people by doctors in the name of "best practice" when the prescribed drugs were totally unnecessary.

By now I had been working on finding alternatives that I shared with my family and it was almost universally pooh-poohed as not "scientific" and of course the testing and been sufficient and on and on. In one conversation with my youngest sister she told me that her sense of dread and anxiety had been relieved by getting the vax. I had an epiphany moment where I realized that the vax was not a vaccine as I understood them, but an anti-anxiety drug and that those who took them did so because they wanted relief from their anxiety.

Perhaps one characteristic of those who didn't get the vax or go along with the heard is a willingness to bear their own anxiety for a bit before making a decision of what to do.

A group of friends came up with, just yesterday, the theory that we are all cultural misfits. That we-and this is true for this particular group of people, quite possibly not all people who rejected the propeganda-are all raised by either parents from two very separate cultural backgrounds neither of whom adopted the other's culture, a family which came from a culture different than the one we grew up surrounded by and refused to assimilate, moved to a different culture as an older child, or were in some way unable to grok the cultural rules we were surrounded by, even if we could superficially pass well enough to succeed.

People who were forced to think about and analyze sociatal norms and customs conciously from pretty early, because there was no one right way, and we had to deliberately culturally code shift to thrive. At least for this particular group-and we're outliers because we found each other, of course-that is the commonality.

I think this is pretty significant, though, because I see similar habits on this forum: here we tend to look at words and body language and try to figure out what's meant, we don't just know what we're told, we have to figure out what they're saying, read between the lines, judge body language (see the conversation about the doctors above).

BoysMom

I certainly count myself (probably too proudly!) as a cultural misfit. Many of the comments in this thread ring true.

With all necessary caveats about pop-psychology, I recall a comment on Chris Martenson's website early on in this fiasco that many skeptics there seemed to be INTJ on the Myers Briggs scale. And indeed, that's what I always get--strongly-- when I take the test.

I also remember hearing a comment made by Dr Harvey Risch when he spoke at a dissident event in 2021. He denied he was any sort of "hero," and instead credited stubbornness as the main driver of his costly public stance. That rang very true about myself. (And still does!)

*Ochre Harebrained Curmudgeon*

Yes, this is partly what I think. It is obvious that people think about and make their important decisions in different though characteristic ways - though boundaries are obviously fuzzy and different people like different systems and causation is problematic.

Nonetheless, I think that it was decision-making type overlaying pre-existing levels of abusive trauma that was determinative. This isn't that helpful in terms of immunising societies in the future because I think sufficient trauma was the necessary first step and it would be extremely problematic to deliberately replicate it. However, a silver lining is that per this theory, governmental abuse is inherently self limiting (eventually) because the trauma it produces kickstarts the removal of consent-of-the-governed. And thus, the substantial decline in acceptance of each booster shot. Also, see 4th Turning type theories etc.

I think the trauma could be suffered on a country, group or indiviual level and come from war, interpersonal abuse and abuse by authority figures. It could be inter-generational and maybe past-life related. It also included things like severe school based bullying, systemic gaslighting around previous bad medical outcomes, and the (sometimes unintentionally) abusive effects of societies trying to hammer square misfits into round holes. In my view, abuse trauma = experience with recognising gaslighting and reduction in generalised trust levels. I would also think that early trauma may somewhat increase the normally very small percentage of socially detached, highly truth valuing type thinkers (in the Myers-Briggs sense) who are then further resistant to propaganda and psychological warfare. However, a further wrinkle is that some people respond to abuse trauma by becoming less compliant, more supicious. Others become much more compliant, always subconciously seeking to appease potential abusers.

My theory: rich western countries are high trust societies with mostly low trauma. Citizens of these countries generally reflexively follow the instructions of authority figures if these instructions have at least superficial broad social consensus - it's a heuristic. The only people who will not reflexively follow are the small numbers of previously abused groups and individuals, and only those who got pushed towards a non-compliant trauma response. These people during covid were the only ones who made active choices, in my view.

Even then, many still actively chose to vaccinate due to their decision making method/values matrix - so the people who base decisions on various types of social information that were so polluted by the propaganda campaigns, people who process ideas and information through discussion (dysfunctional due to propaganda and lockdowns), people who placed their highest values on family ties, continuing a helping calling, social harmony, social order, income, social experiences and/or social status and could not risk losing these -they all vaccinated, some reluctantly, some convinced by the propaganda, some in denial.

A few marginalised/abused groups were big enough for the group to socially support its members against the propaganda and psychological warfare. Outside that, pretty much the only ones left were the small percentage of previously abused, non-compliant, mostly-introverted, thinking-perceiving and thinking-judging types (using the Myer-Briggs typology).

I think the situation was different outside these types of countries - in poorer, low-trust societies and polarised countries like the US. I think there were much, much larger groups of people who had experienced abusive trauma in these societies. So, much less reflexive obedience and in some societies none. So, it was harder for the propagandists to pollute all the social information sources in these countries, harder to stop the extraverts talking and much harder for the psychological warfare to mobilise the social consensus required to credibly threaten the full breadth of things the different types of thinkers value most across every social group. And so, even initial vaccination rates were much lower and very uneven between diffent social groupings.

I am not on the occult path but I would like to share with you some of my observations.

It is clear that there is a stark difference between the vaxxed and unvaxxed and I have also wondered what makes the two different. Ive pondered the reincarnation idea that youve brought up. Ive also wondered about the strange brainwashing that people in the united states put themselves through these days to get along at their jobs.

Last year I was travling in russia and I didnt meet a single person that had been vaccinated. The great majority of people treat it as a joke. While I was there I was told by a Russian friend that russian corporations publicly told their employees that they needed to get vaccinated but that if they didn't want the vaccine they had arranged that the nurses would throw the shot in the trash and vaccine paper work would be issued; in fewer words, they would fake it for those that didnt want it. My friend's mother in law is a doctor and her and her collegues were required to get the vax so they all just wrote each other exceptions. I have been told the same for in Ukraine. In Serbia, where I now live, I have yet to meet anyone that got the vaccine. So for the slavs, I have observed, those that got the shots were the exception and those that are aginst it are the norm. There were lockdowns in these countries, however, and in serbia they were quite intense for a period.

So for some reason the slavic peoples seem to be immune to the mass idiocy that we have found ourselves trying to explain in the west.

Eamonn

That tracks. The only one of my friends whom I was easily able to convince not to take them was my Bosnian buddy. Thanks for listening, Boris!

To be bleak, you'd have to say the Ukrainians are definitely not immune to mass idiocy and they're Slavs.

Just as there is a well-documented and detailed "authoritarian personality" so there is on the other end of the spectrum an "anti-authoritarian personality" (and other tangential spin offs with other prefixes).

Those of us who resisted the jab inevitably are far from the authoritarian complacent.

In my own reflections on the subject of my experience I have to firstly fall back on the statements of dr. Matthias Desmet, who said that there is nothing special about the people who fall into the resisting group. It is just that for a given subject individuals have a some kink in their thinking that prevents them from going with the flow.

1. For me it was my experience with my country’s handling of the bird flu decades ago. And a certain comment from an acquaintance after he got through the bird flu: “If every flu was as mild as mild as the bird flu [he] would be glad!”
So my immediate reaction was to question if this was another bird flu. My propensity for mathematics let me interpret the initial statistics and there it was. Every reaction, reflection, assessment from that point on was made with a certain scepticism.

2. That was the mind, but the real battle was with the will. I took a beating financially, legally and socially. Quite a bit of it. But I struck trough because if this guy. On some podcast someone joked he was Gandalf the green 😂. But seriously:
a) every time I felt week I told myself: “the wisest person I know gave [you] a warning. What will you do?”
b) some years before I started doing some spiritual practices and in those times they came trough. I got a couple of the strongest intuitions about holding on. And well, they hit like a truck. And where did I get those practices from? This guy.

On reviewing my comment; there might not be a pattern regarding the susceptibility, but there might be a pattern regarding the will. (😉to the screener)

Best regards,
V

I'm not particularly occult, Mr Fritter and I am going to make an admission here. Up until maybe May 2020 I was happy to 'lockdown', for us to rush develop vixens and the rest of it. I was scared from first reports in Jan and was following Chris Martinson's reports daily. I couldn't understand why we were still allowing flights from China into Europe and the US. But as the months rolled on and news trickled out that covid was not as bad as initially feared, it was not particularly serious for the vast majority and could be managed with cheap repurposed drugs etc. - well, that was when I started questioning. And the vixens - I read this quite early on, https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2020-04-17/coronavirus-vaccine-ian-frazer/12146616, and thought this path of barely tested injectables is likely a disaster. Oh, and the other info. that came out was the infectious disease modelling that lockdowns etc. were justified from were inaccurate and certainly in the UK, overblown.
My path to scepticism of a lot of the narrative was not straight from the start but certainly became clearer. Oh yeah, and learning this virus is overwhelmingly likely a lab fiddled one really did p me off on that path too - it does explain some of the over-reaction from 'authorities' though. And I think we're working out that attempts to stuff this 'darkness' released back into Pandora's box (or urn) is not going to work.

Edited (Clarity) 2024-09-14 11:56 (UTC)

Janet Yellen Tests Positive for Covid, US Treasury Says

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/janet-yellen-tests-positive-covid-205138815.html

Former NY Gov. Andrew Cuomo grilled on COVID-19 nursing home policies

Cuomo said he never directed staff to under-report nursing home-related deaths.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/former-new-york-gov-andrew-cuomo-set-testify/story?id=113518539

The collapse in public health might be just catabolic collapse happening as The Long Descent, ahem, progresses. How would we ever know the difference?

There's a way to tell. A general decline in public health due to catabolic collapse will be spread fairly evenly across the spectrum of illnesses. If it's more focused than that, it's worth looking into the possibility that there's a specific cause.

Surely "public health" is an oxymoron at this point.

Some significant proportion of people have selected slow motion, pharma-assisted suicide as their life path, in support of Medical Industrial System profit$.

At this late stage of 'Western Civilisation' (sic), adherence to the official narrative, no matter how insane it is, is the primary directive.

So many examples to choose from, but US military misadventure is a poster boy. "Correct use of pronouns increases force lethality".

Houthis 1 vs NATO Navy led by the US Nil. Relative budgets: NATO Navy spend at least 500x of the Houthis.

Week 162

Thank you, JMG, and thank you forumistas.

Cetiosaurus

At this link is the full list of all of the requests for prayer that have recently appeared at ecosophia.net and ecosophia.dreamwidth.org, as well as in the comments of the prayer list posts. Please feel free to add any or all of the requests to your own prayers.

If I missed anybody, or if you would like to add a prayer request for yourself or anyone who has given you consent (or for whom a relevant person holds power of consent) to the list, please feel free to leave a comment below and/or in the comments at the current prayer list post.

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This week I would like to bring special attention to the following prayer requests.

May Giulia (Julia) in the Eastern suburbs of Cleveland Ohio be healed of recurring seizures and paralysis of her left side and other neurological problems associated with a cyst on the right side of her brain and with surgery to treat it.

May Tyler and Monika's newborn baby Isabelle, whose bowels were not moving properly at birth, be blessed with a well functioning digestive tract and be free of colic going forward.

May Falling Tree Woman's son's girlfriend's mother Bridget in Devon UK, who has recently started to sit up and converse after more than six weeks of bedridden tracheotomy following a life-threatening fall from a horse, be blessed and healed and returned to full health.

May Corey Benton, whose throat tumor has grown around an artery and won't be treated surgically, be healed of throat cancer.

May Heather's brother in law, Patrick, who is dying of cancer and has dementia, go gentle into that good light. And may his wife Maggie, who is ill herself, find the strength and peace she needs for her situation. (Update on Patrick's condition here)

May Neptune's Dolphins' husband David, who lost one toe to a staph infection last year and now faces further toe amputations due to diabetic ulcers in his left foot, be blessed and healed, and may the infection leave his body for good.

May Rebecca, who has just been laid off from her job and is the sole provider for her family, quickly discover a viable means to continue to support her family; may she and her family be blessed and sustained in their journey forward.

May Kyle's friend Amanda, who though in her early thirties is undergoing various difficult treatments for brain cancer, make a full recovery; and may her body and spirit heal with grace.

Lp9's hometown, East Palestine, Ohio, for the safety and welfare of their people, animals and all living beings in and around East Palestine, and to improve the natural environment there to the benefit of all.

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A couple months ago, I was doing an easy run in the forest. Many thoughts percolate through my head at such times, some planning, some meditative, reflective, I just go with the flow. Anyways, there was a short segment on orgone generators discussed on here many months back, where someone said that he was able to identify a fellow 'conspiracy theorist' by talking about how they should build their own orgone generator. That whole discussion just popped into my head, and I mentally agreed - yes, it's time to get off my ass and see if I can do it myself, or first try the 'lazy' route and see if I can procure one through Aliexpress.

Couple weeks later I finally made the purchase and it arrived about in a week. I've kept this particular one under/next to my pillow at all times, the A34 piece from: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006003677901.html

I call it the Tree of Life pyramid... and it has substantially improved my sleep quality. The others I sampled and gave to my kids, they said they think it's helping them though not as dramatic as for me. So with that trial done, I bought a few more of the A34, and a A33... and finally got my wife to try it for herself last week. By this time, my wife just grumbles a bit when I seemingly come up with more 'kooky' ideas .. and the next day she told me - heck, that was the best sleep she's had, and she thought she normally sleeps well.

I do not guarantee any change in wealth / happiness etc, but that particular configuration (A34) seems to enable deeper and more restful sleep... more vivid dreams too. Another friend bought from a cheaper vendor and the pyramid was clouded (aka factory reject that got resold). I believe this is still cheap enough for most people, though not sure what the shipping cost will be to the west. If people can sleep better, their health will get better. It cost me less than $3 when I bought it during a 'sale' period, and now I'm thinking how I can bring it along without damaging it when I have to travel.

If it works well for other folks, kindly report back in another month or so? I believe we will need all the 'aids' we can get, in one form or another in the current quickening period... so I've also bought bigger pyramids to put around the house and the workspaces where we most often congregate. Can't hurt anyways.

This is fascinating! I also often find that my thoughts are best when i'm doing something that involves a continuous flowing motion such as running, walking, painting, or playing music. My deepest insights outside of meditation often come from those moments.

Please keep us updated or at the very least...myself! I've taken these last few years to really throw myself in those things that I've wanted to do myself or see other people do and take it upon as an experiment...waiting for others or myself was getting weary. :)

I have just ordered one each of the 33 & 34 Orgone generators to try. I did an internet search first, and various expert sources, such as Wikipedia, assure me that it is just Pseudoscience and WooWoo. After reviewing the evidence, I realized that it meets the same scientific standards used to validate the covid shots, and is more likely to be "Safe and Effective" then they were (As long as I don't trip and impale myself when carrying them down the stairs).
So in search of more "Woo" in my life, I am going to give these a try (and they look cute)
Dennis

The link doesn't show it. Do you have additional info about the item in question? I'm curious as well!

Hawkwind: Orgone Acumulator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhWArBhPWu0

Oh boy, those were the early, glory days of headbanging.

Thank you for this! I'd all but forgotten about Hawkwind, which is embarrassing, because I used to be a serious Michael Moorcock fan -- yes, I had a copy of his tribute novel to the band, The Time of the Hawklords. I now know what recordings I'm going to start looking for next. ;-)

PS - I just want to say thanks to whoever (on the main blog) suggested the "protip" of replacing the "you" in youtube URL's with "613".

This has been a brilliant tip, as it really has proven effective in giving access to the video with no ads.

I went down the orgonite rabbit hole a few years ago. I like it, have them around the house. My favorite vendor is Orgonitei Andy.
https://www.orgoniteandy.com/ The little pucks aren't as aesthetic as pyramids but they're practical and discreet.

Thanks for the heads up. Noticed that his site also has Sungite bracelets.

It gave me the impetus to look for orgone pendants and keychain fobs that I can carry with me the whole day.

Houston’s largest school district sent out a letter urging students to get vaccinated based on increased C0VID in the wastewater.

https://nitter.poast.org/MdBreathe/status/1833894738954514705#m

letter is shown in the post

It always mystified me how people could take the blood and treasure to have and raise kids, only to neglect them and let other entities abuse them. Not just kids either. People will spend good money to buy a car and then proceed to systematically neglect its maintenance. Some aspects of humanity, I will never understand.

Hi. For those who had comments on my comment from last week, I just wanted to announce that I canceled the colonoscopy appointment. With other screening options available, I thought it would be wise at the moment.
My bloodwork came back good for the most part. High bad cholesterol and low good cholesterol, but I don't trust what the medical establishment has to say about that substance, and my other numbers showed I was not at risk... plus I like Hawthorn for the blood and heart.

This is not medical advice - and I was not looking for any. Just wanted to share. I appreciate the different viewpoints and the commentary here. Thanks.

Thanks for the update, and good wishes to you!

I've found a Midwestern Doctor's substack has been good on all this kind of stuff. Made me think on several health issues that seemed to have been flipped about - the meaning of cholesterol levels being one of them.

Thanks for the tip about Midwest Doctor. I'll look it up.

One thing I was glad about the blood work, though I already knew / suspected: low vitamin D and B. This shows I need to keep eating my sardines and kippers several mornings a week, and I upped the amount of Vitamin D supplement I'm taking. Explains a lot about the low mood & anxiety I experienced on and off over my life.

I know there is a genetic test for B vitamin uptake. Some people don't assimilate it very well, and this could be an aspect of family histories of depression.

Let me just say again that I am forever indebted to MidwesternDoc for the decades of knowledge/insight that she has shared at critical times, which by providence seems to happen at some of the my most desperate medical times in the past few years, as I was trying to resolve the various medical issues afflicting my immediate family. Often it was a informational plank where I knew the conventional info I was finding was inadequate, that something was missing... once I had the fresh insight from her, I could then link up many other pieces and it's off to the races.

And also a deep bow of gratitude to our host for maintaining this forum, this critical lifeline....

She wrote this piece last month, about a more innovate and integrative approach to cancer, whilst interviewing Dr Pierre Kory: https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/integrative-approaches-for-cancer

Reading it just made me sad, on many levels. I really had to mentally step back and reflect on the reasons, and decided that I wasn't going to bring this up immediately, give it time to percolate and see if my gut feelings change with a bit of time. Unfortunately, I'm still sad.

On a surface level, we get stats from 2021 prescription and OTC drug sales world-wide, and it's no surprise that Oncology was the biggest profit center - $176B. Next was vaccines (likely driven by the costly mRNA) at $88.6B. Those type of numbers should be no surprise to the folks here, thus giving grist to the greed alone narrative.

Quite telling is that while your average doctor would tell their average patients to follow the oncologist's advice - if it was a close loved one, their attitude complete changes and they start researching alternative methods - as they know how dismal conventional cancer therapy is in terms of survival/cure rates, and how cancer mortality hasn't actually improved even with all the new fancy drugs.

Dr Kory was inspired by Dr Paul Marik's focus on cancer as a metabolic disease from winter 2023. I've mentioned before that fate seems to afflict me with all the coof-related stuff, before it becomes obvious to the general population, and I have to figure out solutions way before-hand. In hindsight, while the shedding was causing obvious eczema and other issues for my kids (everyone had different issues based on their own unique vulnerabilities), I started to shit blood in early 2022. There is a history of colonrectal cancer on my mother's side, so I was aware of that, but I did some of my standard protocols to rule out haemorrhoids and stoamch ulcers - taking loads of oat bran and blueberries (very strong anti-oxidents).. but the blood kept flowing. By then, the obvious lies from the system meant that I wasn't going into the hospital, plus I wouldn't trust them not to do something unethical as I would be listed as 'unvexed' to make an example of me - a gut instinct later confirmed to be true from whistleblowers in US/UK. I'd already had indications that VIM would work against colonrectal cancer, so I was going to be the guinea pig. After 3 days, the blood flow lessened.... and after a week, it mostly stopped. *phew* I also mentally accepted that if it didn't work, then so be it and I'd have to make my affairs in order.

At that point in time, I was still working on our anti-shedding protocols... thinking back, it was probably 30%-40% effective compared to what we have now... and 8 to 9 months later, I started to have blood in the stools again. Started on the VIM treatment straightaway and the blood was gone again within a couple of days. The anti-shedding protocol kept improving and I haven't had any recurrance, and it's been more than a year and a half now.

In the article, they talk about the standard-of-care (SOC) protocol for treating glioblastoma (brain cancer) which has a 2-year survival rate of 26-28%. "Furthermore, those are all very aggressive therapies which can be incredibly traumatic and harmful to the patient." However with the addition of 4 repurposed drugs (mebendazole-dewormer, metformin, doxycycline, and atorvastatin), the 2 year survival rate jumps to 64%, though the average patient lived just 27 months from diagnosis - aka 2 years and 3 months, so it's a still a terrible stat.

Well, want to take a wild guess as to how well glioblastoma responds to VIM? To me, it's part of the 80% of cancers that VIM works very well against.. fenben has also been documented to work, though at a slower rate. The issue is that Dr Kory / Marik with their terrain theory of cancer, are still seeing patients that don't respond to the protocols that they are using (most do).. they (including MidwesternDoc) have been traumatised by having to treat enough cancer patients over the years that they are conditioned to think there cannot be a 1 wonder drug or cure. VIM is not the end all and be all, as there's a lot of other stuff I would use in conjunction to help a cancer patient recover... but it's a key plank - and accepting that goes against ALL the medical school/system programming that they've endured over the years... they just can't get over it. Deworming is just one thing that it does... when it also fixes age related cataracts, we can start to figure that it has multi-modes of action.... same as how elderberry is such a potent anti-viral, as it's not just 1 pathway against 1 particular virus. They are good-hearted doctors, but given such dismal stats from conventional treatment... vs what can be done with VIM, they are instinctively shying away from seeing the obvious - as it would mean accepting that most oncologists are deliberately poisoning their glioblastoma patients without much positive results. They know the FDA is corrupt to the core, approving drugs that don't work or have nasty side effects, that doctors have misplaced incentives (aka vex more kids, get more pharma bonuses) etc, yet they can't get at the logical conclusion that the average oncologist is more concerned about their income stream than their patients' welfare. Heck, they already admitted that pretty much most doctors would search desperately for alternatives to chemo for their close loved ones...

Seeing that made me sad.....

Later on in the article, Dr Kory talks about setting up an observational clinical trial to show that alternative therapies work, to provide data so that other doctors will then be convinced to try out a different approach.

Of all people, Dr Kory should have remembered that at one point early in the coof era, there were literally a hundred or so small-scale studies showing that VIM works very well against it, from countries all over... did that real-world data gain traction? Nope... MSM said we needed double-blind RCT's etc - when they didn't even do proper clinical trials for the mRNA shots... while one can say that it's admirable that they're still trying to work within the bounds of the system, to use their standard methodology to convince other doctors... it doesn't get away from the fact that it's a broken system which is likely beyond repair, even with heroic efforts from the inside. People keep saying you don't throw the baby out with the bathwater... hey, they already poisoned or killed the baby, and the bathwater is toxic as heck, the real question is how to dispose of all that without poisoning more areas....

At this point, I see their efforts as going into a gunfight with a knife, 1 hand tied behind their back. Such a waste of energy and effort... I just feel more sad.

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I had an odd dream just before waking this morning. In it, I was searching for a recipe for fire cider, while very dark, billowing clouds were gathering overhead and thunder rumbled in the distance. When I woke from it I wrote it down, as I do these days, and a little later in the morning did some dreamwork with it and got a very strong sense that this autumn and winter may be very bad in terms of respiratory illness, and fire cider might be useful for prevention and treatment.

Fire cider? It's a modification of an old folk remedy, introduced by herbalist Rosemary Gladstar about the time I stopped playing with toy trucks. It's made from unfiltered apple cider, honey, and hot spices -- ginger, garlic, peppers, you name it. A tablespoon a day, straight or in water, is traditionally held to ward of colds and other respiratory ailments. One popular recipe is here:

https://www.almanac.com/how-make-fire-cider

Of course this should not be taken as medical advice and no claim is made for any capacity to treat, cure, or heal any illness. But I thought folks here might want to know.

Thank you for this! I was pondering making a batch. Decision made! 😊

Valerie

I bet you could make a soda out of that

I top it up with a bit of sparkling water (mineral water with gas). It makes it goes down a lot easier.

yes, and then it's called switchel (kinda like what Laura carried out to Pa when he was haying). I made fire cider some years back, but couldn't get any of us to actually take it ;). Ginger juice yes, fire cider, nope.

Hmm! It's pleasant stuff -- at least the batches I've made in the past certainly were. Still, to each their own.

That was admittedly a few years ago and tastes may have changed here … and maybe it was the horseradish that took it over the edge :D

Switchel usually has molasses in it. Here's one recipe for it (from Old Sturbridge Village):

To 1/2 gallon of water, add
1 1/2 cups of molasses
3/4 cup of cider vinegar
2 teaspoons of popwdewred ginger.

An excellent use for organic molasses, which is such a rich source of magnesium, and of potassium (which balances our intake of sodium). Thank you. I may add molasses instead of honey to this year's fire cider. :)

Molasses is traditional in some parts of the country, but I'm given to understand that maple syrup, honey, and plain old sugar were also common sweeteners. I've tried switchel with molasses but I admit I just can't learn to like it. I usually use maple syrup or honey to sweeten it.

Just a heads up for anyone else who doesn't care for the molasses version.

My grandfather used to like "hay water" when he was out on his tractor doing hot work.

It was at least 30 years later that I learned his "hay water" was really called "switchel." Water, molasses, ginger, and, I think, a little cider vinegar.
*Ochre Harebrained Curmudgeon*

Some of my family will take the fire cider in a cup of water, and some won't. But not one ever objected to a vigaigrette salad dressing made with fire cider and good quality olive oil! ;)

Fascinating dream, John. That's interesting, as I used to do the Apple Cider Vinegar thing for awhile under the influence of reading books by the Bragg's. They are kind of hokie in a way, but I liked their books, and was thinking I should maybe add that into my regimen again. Anyway, FWIW, I know people have been talking about uptick in Covid here and there on this forum, but last night on a weekly 220 Mhz net I get on, before the net some guys from KY were talking about an uptick of covid deaths in the state recently. I do a very precursory internet search on that this morning, but couldn't find anything specific. I don't know where the stats were coming from. In any case, as the weather has turned towards fall in these parts, I was thinking if that trend would continue. Lots of mask wearing happening again too.

I think I might like some firecider with a splash of horseradish myself.

JPM

The Braggs are hokey as all get-out, but their books have a lot of good advice. I use their vinegar exclusively for my fire cider.

I just bottled my fire cider 2 days ago after 8 weeks of "brewing". I highly recommend adding horse radish root to the mix. It is fabulous in salad dressings and I use it in a potato salad that people rave about.

This is a lovely recipe, and fire cider makings are part of our every September.

Of course every recipe becomes personal, and mine includes whole slices of grapefruit as well as lemons... It may be "misinformation" of course, but it has been said that grapefruits are a source of quinine, which, serious studies, by serious people, show is absolutely no help at all when it comes to ADVANCED cases of covid...

But, then, who knows how it might weigh up on the prevention side... ;)

...and since I take such things seriously, I went to the grocery today, got the necessary items, and a half gallon canning jar full of fire cider is now busy steeping on my kitchen work table. I went through a serious 1970s flashback in the process: there I was, with the Jethro Tull album Songs from the Wood on the stereo, and the scents of unfiltered apple cider, raw honey, ginger, garlic, and a dozen other things filling the air around me. Just for a moment I was seventeen again.

I've got a David Schnaufer dulcimer CD playing now so I can bask in the afterglow. ;-)

Fantastic way to follow up on the wisdom of your dream. Speaking of old-time music, I just drafted an article on Matokie Slaughter between yesterday and today, and was listening to her (banjo). I will have to check out David Schnaufer. I have some Braggs in the pantry, so may at least drink some with water when I get home until I get the other ingredients.

Old time music + old time medicine = timeless health

JPM

[Matokie Slaughter and the Back Creek Buddies here: https://alicegerrard.bandcamp.com/album/saro ]

Speaking of ‘70’s flashbacks—the night before last I dreamed of Rick James performing “Rock and Roll Hoochie Koo.” ???

—Princess Cutekitten

Which one? (you knew I would ask ...)

Yesterday I visited my favorite local thrift store and they had a copy of Dulcimer Player Deluxe for $2.99. Of course it came home with me, and that's the one I put on. It was well worth a listen, of course.

That's a great price for a great CD!

I know! I'm a starry-eyed fan of thrift store CD shopping -- you literally never know what they'll get, and the prices are so low it's easy to build up a good collection and just as easy to experiment with new stuff.

I've used a local brand of Fire Cider, available from a small store, Farmacy Herbs, just down the hill from our house. (They also sell an Elderberry Syrup.) The other two things that make me feel much better in similar circumstances are Chinese Hot and Sour Soup and what we call "Grog," made from an old family recipe: to a good-sized mug of boiling water add sugar, lemon juice (as much as one can stand), and rum (151 proof, if available). Let cool to a drinkable temperature, then sip slowly. Nap after finishing if you feel like it.

Most years I buy in a box of organic lemons (usually around 36 or so lemons) direct from seller somewhere in Spain, and process them as soon as received, as follows.
1) use a potato peeler to peel off the coloured layer of peel from each lemon, and lay out to dry/dessicate.
2) cut each (now peeled, but still encased in soft, white inner peel) lemon in half and squeeze as much juice as I can out. Pour juice into ice cube trays and freeze.
3) - if I'm not tired by now, this last is optional - scrape and save a few of the bits of white pithy inner peel and dice. Pickle these using a recipe I have for watermelon pickles. (If I'm tired and skip this, all goes into the compost heap and is given to the soil).
4) a few days later, when peel is completely dry and crackly, whizz with coffee grinder to a powder, pack into a jar containing a paper towel, to keep in the fridge and take as needed as a Vit C supplement. (Also flavours food. But I add at the end, so as not to cook out the Vit C).
5) knock the lemon juice ice cubes into plastic bags and put back in freezer to pull out as needed when a cold is coming on. 1-3 cubes in a cup of hot water....

...AND this last is what makes your GROG recipe look very, very enticing! Thank you!

Thanks for sharing your dream and the recipe!

Your intuition about the coming months is shared by several psychics I follow. Several pointed especially to October being a difficult month healthwise and one even saw a (short) lockdown in that month. To me that made that made sense in light of the US election. I'm sure TPTB would like to hold the election by mail-in ballot with all the opportunities for rigging that entails.

Thanks for the heads up.

Any sources you'd feel comfortable sharing?
'ello.

Sure. I don't remember the specific video's / posts, but there are a few psychics that I follow. I make (brief) notes about their predictions so I can keep track about who is good and who is not. As probably expected most psychics are not very good or make such generalized predictions that they are without value. I'll state who I think is decent to good and some impressions of their works:

- JMG: our host is usually over the target about developments (but I bet you knew that already). No need to introduce him here further :-)

- Egon Fischer: regularly mentioned here. Reads the energies and then interprets how they will play out in our material dimension. I like that he is honest about when he is not sure or when his guides don't want to give him information etc. That gives him credebility in my eyes. For example he spoke with a former general who is 'on the other side' about Ukraine and expressed surprise about what the general told him. But the generals message was exactly the same things as what JMG has said all along.

- Tarot by Izabela (YT channel): takes a question and records her session. She is very to the point (little fluff) and has good accuracy. Her predictions are very precise which is rare.

- Joseph Tittel (YT channel): does a LOT of predictions, it is hard to keep up with. Odd character but that makes him more believable imo. He predicted the attempt on Trump correct and even had some details right. He actually thinks there will be a second failed attempt while Trump is driven in a column and/or when flying to Puerto Rico. We'll see. His approach has a bit of shot-gun quality in that he makes so much predictions that some are bound to be right.

Joni Patry (YT channel): Vedic astrologer. Has made a few correct calls. She predicted for example the attempt on Trump within a timeframe of a few days. I don't like that her predictions are sometimes not very precise or that you have to look for the actual prediction. Her longer term video's I like best.

Craig Hamilton Parker (YT channel): cheerful English chap that can be long winding. He has made really good calls in the past, but the past two years or so he seems less sharp. He was on board with the vax so that makes me wonder... In his predictions he has turned a blind eye to the vax and doesn't cover it. I don't like that he has a tendency to attribute to himself a hit when his prediction was only marginally correct.

I don't remember who exactly said what about October, but if memory serves me Izabela thinks there will be a 6-week epedemic, Joseph Tittel thinks there will be a lockdown, Craig Hamiltron Parker thinks there will be a short wave of avian flu with quite a few people dying. Several of them think that there will also be other big disturbances including a big earthquacke on the west coast and eruption of Mount Helen and several predict that the election will be postponed. And Joni Patry thinks that the chance of war erupting is high in December.

It's all pretty wild and my take is that big changes are in the air but nobody can tell what exactly will happen. When the whole system is so volatile, small changes can lead to very different outcomes (I'm sure you're familiar with chaos theory and the butterfly in the Amazon that causes a storm on the other side of the planet). So I don't take any particular prediction very serious, but look for the trend.

Big thanks for this:)
Will look.

I appreciate the post. I see the precautions. It is sad that it is necessary when you have basically listed the recipe to make a spicy toddy. Most of the older (100y+) recipes of things that are normalized today had similar promises though now adulterated with corn, syrup, seed oil, and worse. Basics in my pantry like bitters, dr pepper, coke, etc. thank you and don't stop posting. rq

Now's the time to recover as many of those old recipes as possible, and start making things for yourself. We've got unparalleled access to information resources right now, but it's by no means guaranteed that we'll have that indefinitely -- and the sooner we get through the learning curve, the better. That's why I make my own natto and kimchi, and now, spicy toddies!

That's one of the reasons why I scanned a number of herbal formula books by Joseph Ernest Meyer, of the old In diana Botanic Gardens, and put them up on archive.org for anyone to download and read.

His titles include:
The Herbalist and Herb Doctor (1918)
The Herb Doctor and Medicine Man (1922)
The Herbalist (1934)
Nature's Remedies: The Early History of Botanic Drugs (12934)
The Old Herb Doctor (1941)
Old Tamarack's Collecdtion (1941)

Other worthwhile collections that can be downloaded there include:
The Scientific American Cyclopedia of Formulas (1910 and elsewhen)
Henley's Twentieth-Century Book of Recipes, Formulas and Processes (1909 and elsewhen)
For these two, get an edition before 1920. During the Prohibition Eras (1920-1933) and later the books were censored and a fair amount of material was removed, chiefly recipes for making or for using alcohol.

Thank you for this!!

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Thank you for these, Robert! :)

ecosophia. My neighbor (next hill over) prepares SeNiCidEm. Herbal tonics, tinctures remedies and oils, SWITCHEL and Fire cider. I always keep several bottles her Fire cider on hand and share a bottle with my better half when the (gods) put such thoughts in my human mind. For being unaware of our existence, gods do seem like suggestive creatures, don't they? Here now are the ingredients of my apothecarist's Fire Cider:

Raw Apple Cider vinegar, horseradish, ginger, onion, turmeric, garlic, lemon juice/zest, jalapeno, habanero, cayenne, astragalus, rosehips, black peppercorns, burdock, yellowdock, dandelion roots, poblano peppers, nettle, oregano, lemonbalm, holy basil, mullein leaf/flower, parsley, thyme, sage, rosemary, raw honey, and I believe just a pinch of hippie magic.

Does the body good!
Black Tuna and Hand

Vinegar, hot peppers, ginger, garlic - you know that's the basic recipe for hot sauce. Well, maybe not the ginger. But I bet there is a hot sauce out there that has all those ingredients in one convenient bottle.

We talked a few weeks ago about how covid is damaging people's immune systems; I think most people want to believe that it's a problem for those who took the gene therapy shots only, but it looks to me as if it's a problem for anyone who has had covid (which is of course most people now). The World Health Network wrote about this recently:

"SARS-CoV-2 triggers a new airborne form of Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome (13, 14, 15) (some are proposing specific terms such as “CoV-AIDS”).

This is not AIDS as we know it from human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) infection, it is a new type of acquired immunodeficiency syndrome with different deleterious effects on immune function (16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21), but both resulting in increased vulnerability to infections (22). Immune system deficiency and other COVID properties also suggest a potential link to greater risk of cancers (23, 24, 25, 26, 27).

The “original” AIDS caused by HIV takes up to around 10 to 15 years to make its presence felt, with the initial infection usually barely noticed and often resembling the common cold or a flu-like disease until its damage manifests itself leading to death in the absence of treatments (28, 29).

With SARS-CoV-2, immunodeficiency develops in the weeks and months following infection. It involves reduction and functional exhaustion of T Cells (30), enhanced inhibition of MHC-I expression (31), downregulating CD19 expression in B cells (32) and other evidence of immune dysregulation (33, 34). In one study, the dysregulation persisted for 8 months following initial mild-to-moderate SARS-CoV-2 infection, the length of the study (35). There is no “cure” for any of the damage caused by SARS-CoV-2 including immune dysregulation."

If you check the references, this isn't hyperbole, it's just what the current research on covid is showing. So, if this is true, I'd expect to see the same rates of disease happening in countries regardless of how many rounds of gene therapy people have had, so that's what I've been looking in to, from an EU perspective.

Total COVID-19 vaccine doses administered per 100 people at Aug 12, 2024

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covid-vaccination-doses-per-capita?tab=table&showSelectionOnlyInTable=1&country=GBR~AUT~BLR~BEL~HRV~CYP~CZE~DNK~EST~FIN~FRA~GRC~HUN~IRL~ITA~OWID_KOS~LTU~LUX~MDA~MKD~NOR~POL~PRT~ROU~SVK~SVN~ESP~BGR~DEU~NLD~CHE

Countries of 1 million or more people with the highest rates of gene therapy shots:

Portugal271.81
Belgium 270.31
Denmark 253.46

2024 Headlines from those countries relating to measles, flu and whooping cough:

Whooping cough sees almost 10-fold increase year-on-year in Portugal
Belgium declares flu epidemic
Measles spike in Belgium
Pertussis epidemic in Denmark, August 2023 to February 2024

Countries of 1 million or more people with the lowest rates of gene therapy shots:

Romania 87.80
Moldova 75.43
Bulgaria 69.25

2024 Headlines from those countries relating to measles, flu and whooping cough:

Bulgaria Implements Temporary Measures Against Whooping Cough Epidemic
Flu Epidemic Declared in Seven of Bulgaria's 28 Regions
Double Epidemic Alert: Measles and Flu Surge Overwhelm Romania
Romania Measles Cases Highest in Europe

Basically the same headlines, which supports the theory that the waves of illness we're seeing are caused by covid and the damage it does to people's immune systems, rather than the gene therapy shots. I'm guessing this is worse for the shotted, but it's not a phenomenon restricted solely to that group.

I do not claim that I know for sure, however, my stance is one of extreme skepticism towards any assertion that covid 19 damages the immune system of those who have not been vaccinated.

Certainly a covid 19 alters it-- our immune systems learn to defend against it, as is normally the case with any other infection from which a body recovers.

There are too many interests that have been and continue to be served by presenting covid 19 as being more dangerous than it in fact is. This was, of course, the entire argument behind the lockdowns, the masking, and the vaccines being both recommended and mandated.

This makes sense to me. Too many people, including some here, are overly dismissive of a sneaky, lab 'enhanced' virus, albeit one that is not acutely a serious or mortal danger for most. Over the longer term though, I'd suggest all reasonable lines of protection and defence are advisable to avoid infection and certainly reinfection in anything less than 12 months or ideally more. And I guess if it does get you, keeping viral replication to a minimum is also probably a good way to go e.g. using anything that (could) aid the immune system from nasal sprays to 'fire cider' - thanks JMG on this (see a few comments above). Nothing here is medical advice - I ain't no doctor.

And when I say reasonable, mask wearing is not practical, nor effective for most situations. I'm not advocating living like a hermit either (unless that's your thing). Personally I've avoided big crowd events and am mindful of ventilation plus I've upped my vitamin D (inc. sunshine) and have noted some supplement/food advice inc. from some who contribute to this little community.

Here's a memory from March 2020 as to the depths of crazy-ness some humans can get to though!
https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavirus/2020/03/dont-take-the-coronavirus-challenge-it-involves-licking-a-toilet-bowl-and-it-could-kill-you.html
' The toilet licker told reporters Harrison Jones and Eleanor Lees: “I was tired of that b---h corona getting more publicity than ME. I’m the real celebrity.” '

And a reminder - we still ain't got this virus licked.

Edited (Extra info. and not so little) 2024-09-12 21:57 (UTC)

All good points imo. We've known for a long time that the virus attacks the T-cells and it is unknown how long the body needs to restore the damage. In the meantime one is also more vulnerable for other infections which will weaken one further.

Even in this open minded forum there seem to be quite a few people who seem to fall into the binary that either the vax or the virus is dangerous, but not both. The virus escaped from a bio lab (aka institute for biological warfare) so if a prototype bioweapon escapes and spreads all over the world, can we really be sure it is nothing more than a flu? I don't think so.

To make matters worse, there are several factors that will have an impact on the health of everybody.

First, the vaxxed seem to have additional immune damage that may cause them to have an abnormal high load of pathogens or for an abnormal long period. In the meantime they can spread those pathogens to everyone including the non-vaxxed.

Second, there is the ample circumstancial evidence that an unknown part of the vaxxed become super-shedders. Those spikes they exude will not distinguish between vaxxed and unvaxxed hosts.

Third, there are non-Coof factors like economic woos and a medical system that cracks at the seems that aill also undermine public health.

From one of the studies done during the first year or two of the coof era, a moderate to severe coof infection would result in depleted T-cells for 3 to 6 months. No graduation between vexed and unvexed for that study if I recall correctly. I would assume unvexed would be up to 3 months of vulnerability.

As mentioned before, Niacin (flush version) does a lot of good things.. it just pushes energy through the body and since my mom's last turbo-cancer episode, I have put her on 500mg Niacin daily, taken with lunch. The body can use that to rebuild the T-cell count faster... take note that the recommended daily amount is like 16-18mg... (same pattern as the Vit D recommendation which is ridiculously low which has the end result of keeping people unhealthy). Most of us are on 1000mg per day... the active kids do 2000mg... and on days where intense training is planned, 3000mg.

Having your own blood sugar testing kit at home is a very useful tool. It can tell you when metabolic dysfunction is starting up (from shedding, illness etc). Track your baseline numbers, and then deviations from that can tell you a lot. Heck, a serious marathoner friend was checking his blood sugar every 5min as he took in different energy drinks / gells to see how quickly his body was able to process the energy input. It's also cheap, with each test strip being like $0.20 or less.

So anyways, if you are taking too much Niacin, over time your blood sugar numbers will start to climb - that's a sign that you're trying to push too much energy through the body and insulin sensitivity is dropping. Personally I go up to 3500mg for a few days at a time to heal from serious injuries (e.g. achilles tear).. and once I go back down to 1000mg, the blood sugar numbers normalize within a day or two. So it's not a permanent condition, and I've been personally doing high Niacin for over 2 years now.

The other useful home diagnostic tool is the blood pressure monitor. Once you have your baseline numbers, any prolonged deviations gives a indication that something is 'off' and what the likely problem is. Together with the blood sugar test kit, we have relatively cheap and easy ways to suss out issues before they become bigger issues.

Thanks for the tips and sharing your experiences with various doses. I remember seeing a clip by dr Schultz who joked that when he had a clinic and treated people with herbal extracts, he tried to kill his patients with high doses but never succeeded.

I have a blood pressure monitor, but a blood sugar testing kit seems like an useful and inexpensive addition.

"Basically the same headlines..."

In other words, more propaganda and fear-mongering from the media, based on information provided by corrupt public health bureaucracies.

The same media outlets were wrong about everything to do with lockdowns, masks, the vaccines, and the overall behaviour of the virus. I don't know why people are now suddenly taking the media seriously on their latest round of fear-mongering, when their behaviour in 20 and 21 completely discredited them.

If covid had really been a dangerous virus, its behaviour would have spoken for itself. Instead there was a massive fear propaganda campaign, censorship of dissent, financial incentives for hospitals to label cause of death as covid, remdesivir and midazolam, and use of PCR to massively inflate case numbers.

Yes the MSM are not to be trusted. Yes most things are now hyped to get clicks, eyeballs, ATTENTION!

But...

There's still stuff going on and the MSM do catch some of it some of the time. It's still worth monitoring and corroborating. I don't trust it either, but then it never was trustworthy - there's always been bias and agenda. Of course I acknowledge it has got worse though.

Sars2's ill effects have likely been enhanced by the vixens and is long term and insidious. Those early days of fear were certainly taken advantage of, quite terribly in some cases, but I would say the danger lies in just taking that and declaring it's all a play or a hoax. Right now it looks to me a changing situation where vixen and virus are now interplaying with each other within what is increasingly a world of challenges. That most of this was self-inflicted by us as a species is enough to make anyone, erm, negatively emotional (JMG - sometimes we just want to swear!!!).

Edited (A has to a have - one to the many) 2024-09-13 11:40 (UTC)

"Right now it looks to me a changing situation where vixen and virus are now interplaying with each other..."

There is a word missing from this analysis, and it is "disease".

There is certainly a changing situation where vaccine and DISEASE are interplaying with each other. But (to me) it remains an open question whether "disease" is a term that is interchangeable with "virus".

I have never doubted that Covid is a disease that has certain characteristics - for one thing, I have heard many people describe their Covid experience as being "under attack", and that attack searching for, and sometimes destroying, their personal "weakest link."

But what is a disease? I am not a fan of the "invasive critter" explanation of disease (or many other similar disruptions, such as ecological disease) partly because all of its "solutions" start to look like "kill the critter", and "killing critters" seems to be our civilisation's whole schtick. But "kill the critter" does not appear to be a strategy that is winning us health, or ecological bounty, or anything else that is useful.

Still, I do believe in disease. In TCM we speak of pathogens, and we can still do our work, using a framing that refers to "pathogens" which do not have to be equivalent to, or proxies for, "critters." We still use pathogen names that are metaphoric, but also diagnostically useful - such as climate-derived metaphors - damp, dry, heat, cold, etc. If such an exterior pathogen interacts with the interior of the body, there will be a disease, short or long. The disease will be present as long as there continues to be an INTERACTION between a host and an exterior pathogen. It will end when either - the pathogen is expelled completely, the host is exhausted and dies. But in between these two permanent outcomes, there are many, many in-between states where the interaction is ongoing but the forces have reached a stalemate.

But, we also refer to interiorly derived pathogens. The metaphorical names for these are emotions - anger, fear, grief, etc. When you study the progress of a disease you are mostly looking at what a body actively does, in order to keep the dangers presented by exterior or interiorly derived pathogens minimised, and keep the maintenance and functioning of the body at a maximum, given the circumstances.

No one has ever observed a virus, or a bacterium (or, for that matter, a wind, or a cold, or an anger, or a sadness), causing harm. What we observe are symptoms of a body responding to injury and disruption by its continued mechanisms to pursue the restoration of balance. To me viruses/bacteria/critters, serve as this civilisation's best metaphor for a pathogen, but, while it spurs the development of certain lines of treatment, these lack the finesse that TCM still permits. Kill the critter is, in many cases, seen as a standalone strategy in Western medicine, whereas TCM will always pursue the double headed strategy of weakening the pathogen while strengthening the host.

It is a whole different way to see.

I believe there are viruses. But also believe in the importance of terrain. And agree on plenty of external/internal influences - emotion to 5G.
I've had 5 element acupuncture as well - worked well for me.
Work that out.

This extended COVID/disease (!) mess seems to be about gaining or rather redrawing a balanced situation (In my world, part of that is between host and pathogen). The vixens have thrown and confused that somewhat and I'd argue so has our ability to keep people going who have compromised immunity and get infected. And the number of species now involved comes into play (e.g. deer) plus the relationship of this disease and susceptibility to other diseases - this is all quite complex.

Complex indeed. :)

(And despite my long-winded replies elsewhere, we mostly agree, I think).

Be well, stay free.

Scotlyn

Right back at you:)

To me the question is not whether viruses exist. Of course they exist. Bacteria exist, and so do a gazillion other critters, and also we exist. But what are they, do we have any idea what they might actually be doing in bodies that are sick, versus bodies that are healthy? Do we have any ideas that involve befriending, or at least, respecting the tasks they have undertaken for themselves?

To me the question is whether you can take a whole concept of "clinical disease" OUT, and slot IN "virus" as a fully explanatory replacement. This is what has happened in medicine, where doctors used to "name" diseases after characteristic clinical pictures built up from signs and symptoms. It is only lately that we have substituted naming the "critter" (which sometimes we find with a test, but just as often we fail to find), AS IF it is a sufficient substitute for naming a clinical disease.

In the same way the ecological question would be whether you could take the whole concept of "disrupted ecological web" OUT, and slot IN "weed" or "pest" or "invasive species" as if that were a fully explanatory replacement.

Actually we are often discovering that "weeds", "pests" and "invasive species" are part of an ecology's healing process, and that a simple kill-the-critter approach is simply never going to restore health to the ecology as a whole. Still, there are whole industries catering to people's fear and loathing of "weeds", "pests" and "invasive species" with poisons and other "kill the critter" methods.

In the same way, might we someday discover that viruses and bacteria are playing "healing" roles in the context of a disrupted physiological ecology, that, like the soil, our bodies "call out" for the ministrations of specific viruses and bacteria, and that our simple kill-the-critter approaches will never restore full health to us, either?

These are possibilities worth pondering, are they not?

I would describe viruses as a theoretical construct. Scientists have come up with the virus model to explain how some infections spread, then developed lab techniques and built machines to try and indirectly detect these viruses, then developed computer models to piece together the bits of genetic material they have found in the lab. At the end of the day, sars2 is just a computer model that has been built on a whole chain of assumptions. What if some of the underlying assumptions are wrong?

Exactly.

As I read someplace else, "If there had really been a deadly pandemic then we wouldn't still be arguing about whether or not there had been a deadly pandemic."

So these studies are finding immune system damage and organ damage in covid patients.

But what does a typical covid patient look like? They're mostly in their 70s, 80s, and 90s. They have chronic conditions such as obesity, diabetes, cancer, etc. And since they are either in hospital or having regular contact with the medical system, they are taking a whole lot of prescription drugs. And they most likely have been given remdesivir and other drugs.

So what is really causing the damage to the immune system and organs? Could it be all those drugs they have been given, plus their underlying conditions?

Have these studies gone out into the community and looked at young and healthy people (both vaxxed and unvaxxed)? Or are they only looking at the sickest 1% of society and then claiming the results apply to the rest of us?

I went looking to find out who sponsors and funds the World Health Network. There was no Wikipedia entry by that name. The bracketed text below is what was served to my device by the search engine I used.

{[The World Health Network: a global citizens' initiative
The World Health Network (WHN) is a coalition of citizens and experts who are committed to global action to protect public health through progressive elimination of COVID-19. Elimination means bringing cases down to sufficiently low numbers so that no community transmission occurs for extended periods of time. Outbreaks might occur but will be…]}

Hmm! Interesting!. Dare I suggest that the next word might be the dreadful, the hopeful, the pretty much expected? That it might start with the royally important letter M? As in…....MANAGED?

I did not dare click on the link for fear that my cherished illusions be shattered. YMMV

In the same search feed I also saw this bracketed text

{[About The World Health Network was initiated by the World Climate Foundation, in the wake of the COVID-19 pandemic. The pandemic brought into sharp focus the threats that health security risks can pose - not only to human health, but to development, the economy, and to global interconnectivity. The Network gathers public and private sector …]}

Yeah. I did not follow up on this link either. So, until I know exactly who is IN the World Health Network, who funds it and what are the national loyalties owed by the ‘citizens’ purported to be members, I will timidly conclude that someone is lying about something and maybe trying to throw shade on the virus to relieve the black evil, white clots, and red-handed malfeasance of those who invented, imposed. and media marketed the deadly dangerous shots.

Those of you who have more courage than I to follow these few breadcrumbs may be able to discover who funded the study linked above. The ‘study’ that contradicts all previous studies which show how natural immunity gained from contracting the FrankenSARS is far superior to any of the manufactured sera.

Superior in terms of being more broad spectrum, longer lasting, and by far lower in volume of spike proteins coursing through the blood stream. Natural immunity also does not hand over to the F-virus a slippy-slidey easy-peasy get out of jail free card which has been repeatedly shown to be a peculiar aspect of the clotshots that were DESIGNED to impose immune imprinting, A.K.A. “Original Antigenic Sin’.

Now, all I have to worry about (if I must worry, I like to invent my own fears instead of putting into my nice clean brain some nasty, secondhand, shopworn rejects of someone else) is that the original Frankenvirus was just a dry run with a 0.03% mortality.

Now I worry that the World Health Network is nudgetty noodling and greasing the tracks for the release of the real thing: a weapons grade Frankenspike that has been tinkered with to perfect more lethal degrees of virulence and transmissibility. That it might be accidentally on purpose released under the name and under the cover of the milder version.

But not to worry! The globally global progressively active WHN will be there for us all to rally to and rely on. Right? No? Hmm.

My considered response is bollox to COVID (never been tested), masks, all jabs and the medical system in general.

Having said that, the system in Australia is good at fixing up mechanical stuff, accidents etc.

Barbara O'Neill is worth checking out: https://www.selfhealbydesign.com/ She's been persecuted, which is always a good sign.

Her book "Self heal by design" is a must read.

Agreed, Barbara O'Neill is great, I didn't know her until my wife talked about her, and there's lots of good stuff in her work.

So, there is a new study out from Johns Hopkins on "Well-Being At Work". It came across my email feed and I thought people here might get a kick out of this doozy.

The study "highlights the decline in the climate of workplace well-being since the COVID-19 pandemic through a comprehensive analysis of more than 4.5 million survey respondents each year."

Yes, you read that correctly - the DECLINE in well-being since the end of the "deadly pandemic."

The press release about the study goes on to say,

"The overall findings show what many employees experienced in the first year of the COVID-19 pandemic: organizational leaders addressing the impact of this crisis by taking extra care to meet employee needs. The report shows that employees experienced a spike in the positive climate of well-being at the early periods of the pandemic. However, as workplaces transitioned back to pre-pandemic norms and more employees return to physical office spaces, the overall climate of well-being often regressed to the pre-pandemic level."

Reading between the lines, I think this study is focused on office workers and others who got to stay home during the "deadly pandemic", and not on the "essential workers" who had to continue working, often while breathing through damp cloth all day, in the early days of the "deadly pandemic". The former experienced lots of positive well-being, apparently.

I said years ago, here and elsewhere, that the laptop class looooved the "deadly pandemic" for just this reason. It was a giant vacation.

And now we have an Official Study by Qualified Experts telling us as much.

More at this link: https://carey.jhu.edu/wellbeing-at-work

I know we're trying to focus more on pro-active health and our own "well-being" these days....but I just had to share this one!

- Mauve Erudite Stoat

Hi Stoat,
During the early part of the covid flap, I was trying to explain to my sister, an academic advisor at a university, that the virus was not that deadly. She told me that she liked the virus because it meant she did not have to go into the office. She discovered how much she loathes people. She still hates going into the office and works mostly from home.
Maxine

Hi everyone,
I just talked to a butcher friend and he said he was not able to help us with our sheep last year because he was having a lot of heart trouble. He took the vaxxes. He also said that 9 of his rugby team members have died of heart attacks in the last year. These are athletic men in their fifties. I wonder what could be causing that?
Maxine

oh the irony of butchers being sheep :)

Florida advises against use of mRNA COVID vaccine heading into the fall and winter

https://flvoicenews.com/florida-advises-against-use-of-mrna-covid-vaccine-heading-into-the-fall-and-winter/

Cambridge University says children as young as 15 should take statins to reduce heart attack risk

https://www.stationgossip.com/2024/09/cambridge-university-says-children-as.html

Here is a good overview of this particular drug, which does not TREAT any known disease, but is sold instead as the taking of a "sure thing" health gamble - apparently, it reduces a "risk factor".

https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/modern-diseases/dangers-of-statin-drugs-what-you-havent-been-told-about-popular-cholesterol-lowering-medicines/

Also, here is a study by cardiologists, the abstract of which is available here (the rest behind the usual paywall).

https://www.internationaljournalofcardiology.com/article/S0167-5273(08)00325-2/abstract

Abstract:
The double-edged sword of statin immunomodulation
Mark R. Goldsteina markrgoldstein@comcast.net ∙ Luca Mascitellib lumasci@libero.it ∙ Francesca Pezzettac francesca.pezzetta@libero.it

Statin drugs are widely prescribed to achieve aggressive low-density lipoprotein lowering in order to decrease cardiovascular disease. Although some of the immunomodulatory effects of statins may stabilize atherosclerotic plaque, they may be harmful in certain segments of the population. Recently, statins have been shown to increase the concentration of regulatory T cells (Tregs), in vivo. There is evidence that this increases the risk of many cancers, particularly in the elderly. Furthermore, a statin induced increase in Tregs may be detrimental in neurodegenerative disorders, such as amyotrophic lateral sclerosis; and a myriad of infectious diseases. These include, but are not limited to, human immunodeficiency virus, hepatitis B virus, hepatitis C virus, and varicella zoster virus. These issues need our attention, and call for a heightened state of vigilance among those prescribing statins.

Of course they should, because asking why young people are having heart attacks all of a sudden is hard. So much easier to just give them more drugs. Contrary to what the nice police officer in the D.A.R.E program told me in my elementary school classroom many years ago, today we know that drugs are _always_ the answer.

South Africa Investigates Pharmaceutical Bottles Washing Ashore Amid Uptick in Cargo Losses

https://gcaptain.com/south-africa-investigates-pharmaceutical-bottles-washing-ashore-amid-uptick-in-cargo-losses/

Australian senator Malcolm Roberts: "The WEF have now turned their evil agenda to food. The campaign against farming is really a campaign against one of the necessities of life—food."

"Who controls the food supply controls the people. Who controls the energy can control whole continents. Who controls money can control the world. The World Economic Forum—and the predatory billionaires they represent—are currently trying to do all three."

clip at link

https://nitter.poast.org/wideawake_media/status/1834155168998252696#m

Their Vaccine Injury Reports Disappeared From VAERS — So They Developed a Tool Anyone Can Use to Track Their Own Reports

After a group of people injured by the COVID-19 vaccine asked the FDA for an external audit of VAERS, they never heard from the agency again. Now they’re developing a system to audit vaccine injury reports in a continuing struggle to hold public health officials accountable.
by Brenda Baletti, Ph.D.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/vaers-covid-vaccine-injury-audit-react19-chd/

On Wall Street when you have an investment thesis that’s contrarian you need to show your work.

Over the last 2 plus years we have assembled a body of work that presents our analyst mosaic that the Covid mRNA vaccines have caused excess deaths disabilities & injuries.
Our work: humanityprojects.info

And even if you think we are wrong why did all these different metrics inflect significantly post vaccine solution? No one in authority wants to look.

https://nitter.poast.org/DowdEdward/status/1834328367669371353#m

Given that this is a season of flux - autumn and spring always are, with yin/yang oscillating - and given that I've been very attentive to my (low) basal body temperature as a symptom of an endocrine issue, and with my acupuncturist admonishing me to not allow myself to get cold... I noted fluctuations in my body's reaction to internal and internal temperature swings: periodically feeling inexplicably cold, periodically breaking out in a sweat. FWIW, I'm post menopausal so this is not those hot flashes.

I assumed n=1 until I read Egon Fischer's recent post ("The Big Cleaning Has Begun") https://efisch.substack.com/p/die-grosse-reinigung-hat-begonnen. He says (google translation):

"Many people are currently in a phase of energetic chaos

"When a person energetically changes from one energetic octave to the next higher vibrating octave, there is a transformation phase in which practically all energetic connections and shells are unstable.

"A big problem is that in this phase you are influenced for a long time by both the energies of the old octave and the energies of the new octave. However, since you are energetically weak and unstable in this phase, this also means that you react extremely strongly to external energetic influences and are energetically very vulnerable. This can be cosmic radiation, which is becoming increasingly more intense, or it can be influences from other people or the environment.

"The energetic manipulations are increasing and becoming more intense

"Unfortunately, the dark side also knows that people who are increasing their vibration and are about to move to the next energetic octave are very vulnerable and susceptible to manipulation. And they take full advantage of this. In the last few weeks, the individual energetic attacks on acquaintances and me have increased dramatically. But unfortunately there are also ways of energetically manipulating the energies in large areas. This can be radiation that has an adverse effect on the physical body, on the psyche (thoughts or emotions) or on the energetic system (e.g. the chakras). Many of my acquaintances are currently suffering from sudden hot flashes and sweating. For me it is quite extreme. In a few minutes I can get a hot flash and break out in a sweat, and shortly afterwards an inexplicable cold shock with cold sweat. Then my whole body freezes for a while."

---

so, just checking to see how you all are doing in this regard. It's highly possible that for me this is an n=1 phenomenon, but I'd be interested to hear if anyone else is experiencing temperature anomalies.

Recently I have been experiencing a much milder version of this -- occasional periods of feeling too warm and a little inflamed, alternating with periods of normal temperature. It doesn't seem to have any of the usual causes, though, so it's interesting to hear Fischer's account.

I keep a thermometer on my desk. The temperature doesn't change that much but my perception of how hot or cold it is, has.

Wow.

Could help explain a few things I've experienced summer to now.

Another dead rat appeared today too, just as I was picking apples - they've been my (unconscious) leitmotif last couple of years.

I was also amazed to read one of the comments to Egon's post mentioning the "get the vax" voices (among other messages being pushed onto people). I know a few of the regulars here read and have commented over there, but the one I read was from a German reader who I don't think was an ecosophian.

I've felt singular 'rain drops' on my legs or arm when there is no rain and probably no leaking air conditioner.

Just feel it and it's gone. No idea what it is.

I've felt that my whole life. Happened earlier today as well!

Yes, I have been experiencing this on and off for some 10+ years. I mentioned it at one time when it was particularly acute to a "naturopathic" GP, early in 2021, who had little clue what it might have been (fortunately she didn't resort to everyone's favourite explanation for anything they can't otherwise explain, ie menopause.) She mentioned low yin and suggested Siberian ginseng.

It recurs now and then, usually involving worse than usual inability to sleep and also intolerance of food.

The "depleted" yin would be related to ongoing issues with individual energetic balance and I suppose would constitute part of a sensitive type's susceptibilities in Fischer's terminology.

Places where I have read interesting commentary on this type of phenomenon include John Bowlby's biography of Charles Darwin, and the blog post mentioned a week or two ago on MM regarding kundalini psychosis.

Yup, I recognize this too in the past week. In my case it usually coincides with inner emotional turbulence.

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As the spiritual energetic condition has been considered on-topic here in the past, I give you this latest tidbit from Egon Fischer's substack:

The energy situation in the USA and the UK is getting worse by the week. The dark energy clouds are getting darker and darker, the lightning is getting stronger and stronger and the first flashes are already reaching the 3D level. If the trend continues, the energy will have a full impact on the 3D level in the next few months, which would be quite trendy.

I interpret this as meaning that the Black Oobleck that has been accumulating and congealing on the Lower Astral Plane for the past nine or more years may be about to start unavoidably spilling over into everyday physical reality. I quite frankly find it amazing that it took this long for that to happen. In this most recent substack, he also volunteers that the collapse of the West's complex systems will either be complete or far well underway about two years from now.

On a personal level, it does feel as though something is poking at my anxiety disorder more than usual and in a way that just feels...weird.

Edited 2024-09-14 12:12 (UTC)

Seems to be linked to current solar maximum of Solar Logos. Northern lights that aren't so northern etc.

this is a very OTT article, but his observation about sunspots numbers is interesting: https://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/the-sun-is-doing-something-that-it-is-not-supposed-to-do-and-that-could-mean-big-trouble-in-the-months-ahead/

Thank you for this! 🙏

It might help explain an anxiety attack last week. I didn’t think I had anxiety attacks. Looks like I do now. ☹️

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