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Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 97

As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselessness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.

3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

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If I may, I'd like to answer Christophe's post at the end of the last thread:

Christophe - https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/235880.html?thread=41570664#cmt41570664

By saying this:

Apologies, and thank you. And, to be fair, when I asked in my own comment, "where's the outcry [curiosity, fear, annoyance, speculation, research]" (which is what I'm actually still wondering) I did make injudicious use of the word "weapon"...

All the same, I do hope people wonder, and speculate, and test, and talk about, potential answers... which may well include some of what you have said... but which, in any case, are necessary to understand well, so as to lead to better prevention and response.

In any case, be well. And blessings on all your goings and doings.

CDC confirms COVID Vaccination increases risk of Autoimmune Heart Disease by 13,200%

https://expose-news.com/2023/06/10/cdc-covid-vaccination-causes-133x-risk-of-autoimmune-heart-disease/

Here We Go: White House Upholds Mask Requirement for Unvaccinated ‘College Athlete Day’ Guests Despite National Emergency Termination

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/06/here-we-go-white-house-upholds-mask-requirement/

Last week someone asked our host where we are in his original hypothesis. Are we in the last stage where the damage from the vaccines is too prevalent for most to ignore?

I live in a hyper PMC area and here is what I am seeing: all of the vax damage is being blamed on COVID. That is what the doctors tell people when they go in with heart, autoimmune, eye problems, etc. They say, oh we are seeing a lot of this associated with COVID. Those who got the shot don't have to admit they were wrong to get the shot and the pharmaceutical companies can keep on doing what they are doing. The PMC all got COVID and believe all their problems came from COVID and it would have been worse without the shots. The shots could never cause any problems, that is just impossible. It is COVID that causes problems, just COVID.

And that is where we are. I think that is where we will stay. There is never a reckoning -- at least, I don't expect one in my lifetime. Now, if people get hungry, there might be a reckoning of some kind. But from what I am seeing, criminals like Fauci and all the rest will keep raking in the cash and those that took the shots will suffer, and so will their families who have to care for them and lose them. I have come to the conclusion that they only thing that gets through to people is if we get short of actual food.

So my opinion, that last stage will never come... and for the people who got the shots, maybe that is okay because they never have to admit they made a mistake.

In last week's post, Boccaccio said:

"That's interesting. A psychic friend of mine remarked that after his second jab his crown chackra was closed and that it took months to open it up again. I also came across an interview with another psychic lady who mentioned that after the second jab her etheric body collapsed ad that it took her a lot of work to build it up again."

Lassoing that forward so I can reply to it:

As disturbing as these reports are (he was replying to a discussion about a psychic who reported that the vax was evicting people's souls from their bodies-- they were still tethered, but not in their usual location and took some work to get them re-seated in the body), particularly read alongside Rudolph Steiner's talk about blood demons, I find it very encouraging that the condition doesn't seem to be permanent, or irremediable.

...also wanted to drag forward RonM's comment from last week:

"Maybe some people of this group access 4-chan. I never have, nor do I plan to. However, I have it on a good authority that one of the weirder posts on 4-chan is dated September 4, 2019: it is simply one line – “Do not accept any vaccination that will be released for a deadly virus in the winter of 2020.” It is anonymous. Some vloggers drew attention to it in late 2019. Maybe stuff like this is as common on 4-chan as rain is in Ireland, but in case it’s not…

Ron M"

...I'll add this from Aussie17's most recent doozy of a substack:

https://pharmafiles.substack.com/p/the-evolving-covid-narrative-emerging

"Let me share something that has been troubling me for a while. In 2019, I was still employed by one of the manufacturers of COVID vaccines. During the middle of that year, while our department was working on the travel budget for 2020, we received a directive from higher-ups to cut our travel budgets by 60-80%. Having worked in the pharmaceutical industry for nearly 20 years, this was the first time such a thing had occurred. I can't help but wonder about the timing of this significant travel budget reduction, just before the entire world went into lockdown. It seems like someone already had knowledge of what was going to happen."

There's lots to peruse in that particular rambling post. I'd say he's "Mood:grim" this week, too.

I am rereading old Magic Mondays, and have just come across a profoundly troubling old post, on a particularly nasty form of magic.* I found it today, and while it’s relevant as a Magic Monday question, it’s also profoundly relevant because it may help explain a lot of the oddities of what happened starting out in March of 2020.

Simply put, someone was talking about a series of workings they had been given access to by people who despised Trump; and that at least some of these workings included "and may all who ever support him die". These were apparently widely disseminated in the part of the occult community that person was part of; with the typical confidence that everyone agreed with them that so many people with severe TDS show.

Someone else then came up with a way to monkey-wrench these with the intention that anyone who cast that working and then supported Trump, on anything, would die. I wonder if someone else, maybe even several other people, might have thought of something a little broader, and used some of the workings in the Magic Resistance in combination in order to strengthen this intention to make it target all Magic used against Trump; I can see a few ways to do it myself, and worry about what people who have more training and more interest in this might have come up with. This was back in 2018; so it clearly didn't activate right away.

Fast forward to early March of 2020, and there were people in both sides of the aisle supporting both taking drastic action and doing nothing about Covid, and a huge number of the really weird and troubling elements of what would happen next were confined to the fringes, or did not even exist yet**; but within days of Trump’s declaration of a national emergency on March 13, suddenly everything went haywire in a stunningly rapid and bizarre fashion. I’d attributed it to the fact that once such an emergency was declared people panicked, but it always seemed like there was more to it than that.

Trump’s still pushing the vaccines, and a huge number of people seem stuck on this issue, unable to see the reasons it's dangerous and unnecessary. The only two people I know who were involved in the intersection of alt-right politics and occultism also heavily agree with Trump here, and are adamant about vaccines being needed in order to save lives. Both of them questioned the medical industry heavily prior to this, so it is a sharp about face, and has me wondering what is going on here.

All of this is taken together suggests an uncomfortable hypothesis: what happened starting out in March 2020 was that the workings aiming to use the ones aimed at causing any who supported Trump to die to make it such that anyone who used magic against Trump and then supported him would die lay dormant, waiting for a trigger.

These were all suddenly activated in March of 2020 when Trump declared a national emergency over Covid, to the cheers of many in the left, and so these workings found the most convenient way to earth out, and kill the people targeted, and this is why things got so weird, and why the vaccines were so rushed, shoddy, and absurdly poorly tested. This is also why so many people who opposed Trump were so eager for these vaccines, and why the Magic Resistance, and so much of the occult community in general, got dragged into this mess.

JMG,

I hope you don’t mind this quasi-Magic Monday question, but does the above hypothesis seem plausible to you?

*https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/16587.html?thread=558283#cmt558283

**This is not to say the response up to this point was sane. However, it was not confined to the left like it later would be, there was at least the pretence of cost-benefit analyses, and many of the more drastic steps, like banning anyone from seeing anyone they were not living with, or closing all schools, were dismissed as impossible, absurd, and dangerous, even by Governor Cuomo as he launched one of the most dramatic responses outside of China.

However, within days of Trump's declaration of a national emergency, suddenly all of those were being put in place, and the supporters did not seem to notice their sudden about face.

Just spent 3 days building a chicken coop -- not much online time. I ever feel better too :)

I was checking the regular sites and hit nakedcapalism. I do like the commentary from "IM Doc". But he is only on infrequently.

But the stuff I saw in the daily water cooler was the epitome of Covid hysteria. I realize I have to not go to that site anymore -- life is too short and I think they are legitimately nuts

If people on here frequent the site -- and notice a im doc post -- can you ping this thread? Or send me a dreamwidth message?

thx!!

Jerry

Something odd has been happening to me. Twice in the last three weeks I've had very short, intense head colds. They only lasted a couple-three days and only affected my nose and sinuses, with a little blood coming out at the end. Usually a cold lasts at least a week for me and always gets into the lungs. No allergies I'm aware of, no shots or prescription meds in years, and my health is otherwise normal.

Oh, and the really weird part is that I've had trouble breathing through my nose for years (busted it when I was younger) until this happened, but now I can breathe easily. I got a bug that.... fixed my nose?

Has this been happening to anybody else? I'm pretty skeptical of the "spike shedding" concept, but maybe this is it?

Sawdust

If your blood pressure is low, I'll bet you could could raise it by watching this:

( at ) JustinHart
( at ) KevinKileyCA absolutely eviscerates HHS Secretary Becerra, "Did forcing 2-year-olds to wear masks save lives?"
https://twitter.com/justin_hart/status/1668702484309897216?s=20
June 13, 2023

I'd love to transcribe it. But I'm sticking to my March 31, 2023 cap. Anyone else game to transcribe? It's about forcibly masking 2 year-olds, blood boilingly hilarious, Kafkaesquely Ionesco x Monty Python

I'm in the middle of watching Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying's 177th Darkhorse Podcast.

They talk about the book Where There Is No Doctor and the updates between 1992 and 2022 editions. The 2022 edition contains a section on Covid and vaccines, and it goes about as you'd expect. There are also broader updates to recommended vaccines for children, which are...pretty staggering.

Stuff about the book starts at 15 minute mark and goes to about 1 hour 30: https://rumble.com/v2t8xe0-bret-and-heather-177th-darkhorse-podcast-livestream.html

As usual Bret and Heather have good, informative discussion. Worth watching if you have a spare hour & 15.

(I haven't watched the rest of this episode yet; the first hour and a half is what's relevant to these open posts, so that's what I'm talking about.)

This weeks meme points to an important but overlooked aspect of this covid fable. That is: it is enough to cite forced compliance and censorship as the reason to reject the vex. It precedes debating whether the covid con is real, whether the vex works or if vex has side effects.

Lately, there've been posts asking for help citing references that the vex causes side effects 'so I can convince some friends' to not take the vex, etc. Putting aside the issue of whether these posts are data mining for future censorship (and if you really have been reading this forum for a while but still need help finding sources of info, that personally raises a red flag for me), putting that aside, the first thing to address 'undecided' friends is to point out the indisputable fact that they are being prevented from seeing all the information, prevented from making an informed choice. The censorship is active and aggressive and that is not hidden.

Until we abolish 'Ministries of Truth', you can't trust official narratives.

So instead of framing it as 'well here is some alternative info for you to look at', the starting point for convincing the undecided should probably be more like: 'The info given to you by the institutions, the authorities, the 'Science', your government has failed miserably when put in practice (lockdowns, masks, social distancing, vexes, mandates, etc). They have failed you and whether you believe it was malicious or innocent, they have failed you. They are actively censoring alternative info and you cannot make an informed choice. If you cannot accept that something has gone terribly wrong with these institutions, then asking others to provide you with sources of alternative views is not the problem you're having.'

Any thoughts on how to change the ongoing covid discussion toward the undisputed censorship and the inability to actually have an open discussion?

Regarding alternatives to Google that's been asked for a few times before, have any of you tried this:

https://presearch.com/

Seems to be pretty unbiased so far just typing in controversial sites, but I could be missing something.

As far as a hodgepodge of sites that would likely be pushed down the list by an algorithm, searches for: 'ecosophia', 'marketticker', 'UNZ', 'itsgoingdown', 'volkish'... I just get the basics I want.

*I don't mean to associate any of those sites with each other, I just notice it is giving me the basic sort of results I want from an objective search engine.

Week 97! Thank you, JMG, and thank you, forumistas.

Cetiosaurus

Here's a very interesting and informative discussion hosted by Dr. Philip Macmillan of the UK. His guests are Geert Vanden Bossche and Dr. Rennebohm from Seattle.

Geert begins by acknowledging that his timelines were off but goes on to defend his original thesis that we are facing a disaster and shows why he still believes this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKDhjASd7ZE

If the link doesn't work, search under Vejon or Vejon Health.

If Geert is correct, it's not over, kids!

Liam in Toronto

Here is a minor but odd data point.

I recently went to rent a carpet shampoo machine but three different places had no usable machines. Inquiring, I learned that Rug Doctor, the company that franchises many retail store-based carpet cleaner rentals in the US, was recently acquired by some holding company that stopped all maintenance services for the machines, hence their disrepair.

The result of a staffing shortage? I've also seen other subtle but noticeable drops in the reliability of different services. Having to call someplace a dozen times to get through to someone who seems to have no idea what they're doing, that sort of thing. Is anyone else noticing this kind of thing?

'Walensky got a nice greeting here'

https://twitter.com/DanielHayes31/status/1668751485738569728?cxt=HHwWgMDS3dCozKguAAAA

Okay, so this the second time that I've been trying to write a post here, and I've put it aside, and then something just drops into my laptop that does it all so much better than I could manage (thanks again God):

https://paulkingsnorth.substack.com/p/the-west-must-die

The last time this happened was a piece about "don't let them get away with it" by another author.

For mine, that includes not going back to a world wherein TPTB enjoy respect, obedience, and worship that they simply don't deserve. This will come as a surprise to TPTB, but they are not gods to be dutifully worshipped, far from it, they don't even have the character, competence, or intelligence for the jobs that they do have! So, they just have to go, and not just them either - the doomed civilization that spawned them also has to go, because it sucked, and it continues to suck, and it get suckier all the time.

And that's okay, nothing last forever.

The big question is what to do next? The latest essay I've shared above doesn't lay it all out, but it might give a few ideas.

It's not exactly the same as what I've been thinking about, but it resonates on the same frequency, plus I think the video in the link has some interesting ideas. Maybe even gives me a clue as to why I'm struggling to write things down - and no, I don't think it's covid-brain.

Anyway, after more than a couple of aborted starts, I'm pleased that I've managed to force myself to untangle a few words from the interconnected mush of ideas in my head to share the essay with you.

The Ninth Mouse

I am by no means a fan of rap, but I came across this song by “Hi-Rez & Jimmy Levy” which I would characterize as a modern day protest song. I had to pass it along because I found it fascinating. I must say I was surprised to find many of the sentiments expressed on this series of posts in song form. It’s encouraging to see pop culture figures criticize the institutional response to the Covid “panic.” Plus, it’s a pretty catchy tune!

Here’s the YouTube link to the music video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hHxk1Mg5n7I&pp=ygUKamltbXkgbGV2eQ%3D%3D (I expect you can find the audio somewhere if you don’t want the video)

Here are all of the requests for prayer that have recently appeared across the Ecosophia community. Please feel free to add any or all of the requests to your own prayers.

If I missed anybody, or if you would like to add a prayer request for yourself or anyone who has given you consent (or for whom a relevant person holds power of consent) to the list, please feel free to leave a comment below or on the prayer list page.

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This week I would like to bring special attention to the following prayer requests.

JH's mother-in-law Sue, who lives in Spain, has had a severe arthritis affliction in her knee that has left her unable to walk for weeks now, leaving her more or less bed bound; for prayers and/or healing energy for swift resolution of the issue and swift recovery of her ability to walk.

Tanamous's friend's brother David got in a terrible motorcycle accident and has been diagnosed as a quadriplegic given the resultant spinal damage; for healing and the positive outcomes of upcoming surgeries and rehabilitation, specifically towards him being able to walk and live a normal life once more.

One of

open_space's best friends, Patricio Lopez de Nava Amezcua, was shot and killed last week; for the safe and pleasant passing of his soul. (Photo of Patricio here.)

Nicole's (shewhoholdstension) 41 year brother Robert died suddenly in bed on May 15th; for a smooth and blessed journey on the other side. Robert was a single dad and he leaves behind three children: Hannah, Zack, and Jordyn; that they and Nicole be blessed and protected, and find what comfort they can during this very difficult time. (Update here.)

Lp9's request on behalf of their hometown, East Palestine Ohio, for the safety and welfare of their people and all living beings in the area. (Lp9 gives updates here and most recently here, and says "things are a bit... murky"), and the reasonable possibility seems to exist that this is an environmental disaster on par with the worst America has ever seen. At any rate, it is clearly having a devastating impact on the local area, and prayers are still warranted.

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Guidelines for how long prayer requests stay on the list, how to word requests, how to be added to the weekly email list, how to improve the chances of your prayer being answered, and several other common questions and issues, are now to be found at the Ecosophia Prayer List FAQ.

If there are any among you who might wish to join me in a bit of astrological timing, I pray each week for the health of all those with health problems on the list on the astrological hour of the Sun on Sundays, bearing in mind the Sun's rulerships of heart, brain, and vital energies. If this appeals to you, I invite you to join me.

Not sure if this has been shared before here but Google, of all places, recommended this today:

https://doctors4covidethics.org/doctors-for-covid-ethics-signatories/

I thought this was worthy of printing out.

How to convince a State Legislature that they have been wrong in 4 minutes
My testimony in support of bill H734
Madhava Setty
June 15, 2023
https://madhavasetty.substack.com/p/how-to-convince-a-state-legislature

PULL-QUOTE:

"Here’s a recording of my testimony from HealthRightsMA on twitter that can be retweeted or shared with your MA representative:

https://twitter.com/HealthRightsMA/status/1668752332971028483

or on Rumble and FB.

If you live in my state of MA, please visit healthrightsma.org where you can get involved here.

If you wish to support similar bills in your own state, please visit righttorefuse.org. "

https://tkp.at/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/3.PSUR-1.pdf

I don't know the provenance of this apparent internal Pfizer post-marketing document, but it appears to be PFZ's internal post-marketing data about the shots, through June 2022. I haven't had a chance to comb through it yet, but here's what a couple of other people are saying about it:

https://www.conservativereview.com/horowitz-confidential-pfizer-document-shows-the-company-observed-1-6-million-adverse-events-covering-nearly-every-organ-system-2661316948.html

https://pharmafiles.substack.com/p/breaking-shit-just-hit-the-fan

So, Horowitz is saying it indicates that pfz knows about 1.6 million adverse events since rollout, Aussie17 is saying no, actually its 5 million, and I'd just like to point out that in both cases, this document only covers up through June 2022, and it's been a whole year since then, so whatever the numbers are in that document, they're higher now.

More importantly, just trying to glance through and get some kind of overview of the original doc (and dang I can't do math or read properly for anything this late at night)... I am wondering if we might have the HOLY GRAIL of AE data here: a denominator. PFZ clearly doesn't know how many people received the shots, but we *seem* to have their own internal estimates for it, somewhere between table 5 and table 13.

Please somebody smarter and better at reading science papers than I, take a look!

Because the most absolutely infuriating thing all this time has been: all these AE reports, and no denominator to determine a *rate* of AEs... so like how many adverse events *per 1000 people* or *per 1000 shots administered*. That has been a total mystery, and a huge excuse for everybody involved to just shrug and go "I dunno, we gave more shots than ever, so of course there are more reports".

Can an estimated ratio of AEs be calculated from this document???

re: what might be possible

This book popped up on my radar-- I am an admirer of Dr. William Tiller. I have to read the book, however.

Bridging Science and Spirit:
The Genius of William A. Tiller’s Physics and the Promise of Information Medicine
by Nisha Manek

Manek publishes an interesting newsletter which you can sign up for here:
https://nishamanekmd.com

Her recent issue features German healer Bruno Gröning.
https://www.bruno-groening.org/en

Cetiosaurus

I thought this was an interesting article on the covid response and how it devastated poor people in both over-developed and undeveloped nations, as detailed in "The Covid Consensus" book by historian Toby Green and economist Thomas Fazi (both of whom come from a leftist perspective).

https://markoshinskie8de.substack.com/p/covid-mitigation-crushed-the-poor

The author of the article, Mark Oshinskie, is a substacker I've been following for a while now. He's had some interesting stuff to say about cooties-19 and a variety of related issues - and he's also an avid gardener. Plus, he lives in my home state of New Jersey, so I have some extra appreciation for his perspective, since it comes from someone who's been going through the whole debacle in the same political environment as me.

Some of the biggest arguments I've had about the covid nonsense - including at least one bonafide shouting match of which I'm not overly proud - have involved me informing people who claim to be on the "left" that there was nothing genuinely "left" about the covid response, since all it did was hurt poor and vulnerable people, enrich corporations, transfer wealth upward, and destroy rights and freedoms that the left used to claim to care about, like free speech, freedom of religion/association/assembly, the right to privacy, and workers' rights.

Anyway - the article is worth a read, imo.

- Mauve Erudite Stoat

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