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Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 97

As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselessness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.

3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

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If I may, I'd like to answer Christophe's post at the end of the last thread:

Christophe - https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/235880.html?thread=41570664#cmt41570664

By saying this:

Apologies, and thank you. And, to be fair, when I asked in my own comment, "where's the outcry [curiosity, fear, annoyance, speculation, research]" (which is what I'm actually still wondering) I did make injudicious use of the word "weapon"...

All the same, I do hope people wonder, and speculate, and test, and talk about, potential answers... which may well include some of what you have said... but which, in any case, are necessary to understand well, so as to lead to better prevention and response.

In any case, be well. And blessings on all your goings and doings.

CDC confirms COVID Vaccination increases risk of Autoimmune Heart Disease by 13,200%

https://expose-news.com/2023/06/10/cdc-covid-vaccination-causes-133x-risk-of-autoimmune-heart-disease/

Here We Go: White House Upholds Mask Requirement for Unvaccinated ‘College Athlete Day’ Guests Despite National Emergency Termination

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/06/here-we-go-white-house-upholds-mask-requirement/

Last week someone asked our host where we are in his original hypothesis. Are we in the last stage where the damage from the vaccines is too prevalent for most to ignore?

I live in a hyper PMC area and here is what I am seeing: all of the vax damage is being blamed on COVID. That is what the doctors tell people when they go in with heart, autoimmune, eye problems, etc. They say, oh we are seeing a lot of this associated with COVID. Those who got the shot don't have to admit they were wrong to get the shot and the pharmaceutical companies can keep on doing what they are doing. The PMC all got COVID and believe all their problems came from COVID and it would have been worse without the shots. The shots could never cause any problems, that is just impossible. It is COVID that causes problems, just COVID.

And that is where we are. I think that is where we will stay. There is never a reckoning -- at least, I don't expect one in my lifetime. Now, if people get hungry, there might be a reckoning of some kind. But from what I am seeing, criminals like Fauci and all the rest will keep raking in the cash and those that took the shots will suffer, and so will their families who have to care for them and lose them. I have come to the conclusion that they only thing that gets through to people is if we get short of actual food.

So my opinion, that last stage will never come... and for the people who got the shots, maybe that is okay because they never have to admit they made a mistake.

In last week's post, Boccaccio said:

"That's interesting. A psychic friend of mine remarked that after his second jab his crown chackra was closed and that it took months to open it up again. I also came across an interview with another psychic lady who mentioned that after the second jab her etheric body collapsed ad that it took her a lot of work to build it up again."

Lassoing that forward so I can reply to it:

As disturbing as these reports are (he was replying to a discussion about a psychic who reported that the vax was evicting people's souls from their bodies-- they were still tethered, but not in their usual location and took some work to get them re-seated in the body), particularly read alongside Rudolph Steiner's talk about blood demons, I find it very encouraging that the condition doesn't seem to be permanent, or irremediable.

...also wanted to drag forward RonM's comment from last week:

"Maybe some people of this group access 4-chan. I never have, nor do I plan to. However, I have it on a good authority that one of the weirder posts on 4-chan is dated September 4, 2019: it is simply one line – “Do not accept any vaccination that will be released for a deadly virus in the winter of 2020.” It is anonymous. Some vloggers drew attention to it in late 2019. Maybe stuff like this is as common on 4-chan as rain is in Ireland, but in case it’s not…

Ron M"

...I'll add this from Aussie17's most recent doozy of a substack:

https://pharmafiles.substack.com/p/the-evolving-covid-narrative-emerging

"Let me share something that has been troubling me for a while. In 2019, I was still employed by one of the manufacturers of COVID vaccines. During the middle of that year, while our department was working on the travel budget for 2020, we received a directive from higher-ups to cut our travel budgets by 60-80%. Having worked in the pharmaceutical industry for nearly 20 years, this was the first time such a thing had occurred. I can't help but wonder about the timing of this significant travel budget reduction, just before the entire world went into lockdown. It seems like someone already had knowledge of what was going to happen."

There's lots to peruse in that particular rambling post. I'd say he's "Mood:grim" this week, too.

I am rereading old Magic Mondays, and have just come across a profoundly troubling old post, on a particularly nasty form of magic.* I found it today, and while it’s relevant as a Magic Monday question, it’s also profoundly relevant because it may help explain a lot of the oddities of what happened starting out in March of 2020.

Simply put, someone was talking about a series of workings they had been given access to by people who despised Trump; and that at least some of these workings included "and may all who ever support him die". These were apparently widely disseminated in the part of the occult community that person was part of; with the typical confidence that everyone agreed with them that so many people with severe TDS show.

Someone else then came up with a way to monkey-wrench these with the intention that anyone who cast that working and then supported Trump, on anything, would die. I wonder if someone else, maybe even several other people, might have thought of something a little broader, and used some of the workings in the Magic Resistance in combination in order to strengthen this intention to make it target all Magic used against Trump; I can see a few ways to do it myself, and worry about what people who have more training and more interest in this might have come up with. This was back in 2018; so it clearly didn't activate right away.

Fast forward to early March of 2020, and there were people in both sides of the aisle supporting both taking drastic action and doing nothing about Covid, and a huge number of the really weird and troubling elements of what would happen next were confined to the fringes, or did not even exist yet**; but within days of Trump’s declaration of a national emergency on March 13, suddenly everything went haywire in a stunningly rapid and bizarre fashion. I’d attributed it to the fact that once such an emergency was declared people panicked, but it always seemed like there was more to it than that.

Trump’s still pushing the vaccines, and a huge number of people seem stuck on this issue, unable to see the reasons it's dangerous and unnecessary. The only two people I know who were involved in the intersection of alt-right politics and occultism also heavily agree with Trump here, and are adamant about vaccines being needed in order to save lives. Both of them questioned the medical industry heavily prior to this, so it is a sharp about face, and has me wondering what is going on here.

All of this is taken together suggests an uncomfortable hypothesis: what happened starting out in March 2020 was that the workings aiming to use the ones aimed at causing any who supported Trump to die to make it such that anyone who used magic against Trump and then supported him would die lay dormant, waiting for a trigger.

These were all suddenly activated in March of 2020 when Trump declared a national emergency over Covid, to the cheers of many in the left, and so these workings found the most convenient way to earth out, and kill the people targeted, and this is why things got so weird, and why the vaccines were so rushed, shoddy, and absurdly poorly tested. This is also why so many people who opposed Trump were so eager for these vaccines, and why the Magic Resistance, and so much of the occult community in general, got dragged into this mess.

JMG,

I hope you don’t mind this quasi-Magic Monday question, but does the above hypothesis seem plausible to you?

*https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/16587.html?thread=558283#cmt558283

**This is not to say the response up to this point was sane. However, it was not confined to the left like it later would be, there was at least the pretence of cost-benefit analyses, and many of the more drastic steps, like banning anyone from seeing anyone they were not living with, or closing all schools, were dismissed as impossible, absurd, and dangerous, even by Governor Cuomo as he launched one of the most dramatic responses outside of China.

However, within days of Trump's declaration of a national emergency, suddenly all of those were being put in place, and the supporters did not seem to notice their sudden about face.

Just spent 3 days building a chicken coop -- not much online time. I ever feel better too :)

I was checking the regular sites and hit nakedcapalism. I do like the commentary from "IM Doc". But he is only on infrequently.

But the stuff I saw in the daily water cooler was the epitome of Covid hysteria. I realize I have to not go to that site anymore -- life is too short and I think they are legitimately nuts

If people on here frequent the site -- and notice a im doc post -- can you ping this thread? Or send me a dreamwidth message?

thx!!

Jerry

Something odd has been happening to me. Twice in the last three weeks I've had very short, intense head colds. They only lasted a couple-three days and only affected my nose and sinuses, with a little blood coming out at the end. Usually a cold lasts at least a week for me and always gets into the lungs. No allergies I'm aware of, no shots or prescription meds in years, and my health is otherwise normal.

Oh, and the really weird part is that I've had trouble breathing through my nose for years (busted it when I was younger) until this happened, but now I can breathe easily. I got a bug that.... fixed my nose?

Has this been happening to anybody else? I'm pretty skeptical of the "spike shedding" concept, but maybe this is it?

Sawdust

If your blood pressure is low, I'll bet you could could raise it by watching this:

( at ) JustinHart
( at ) KevinKileyCA absolutely eviscerates HHS Secretary Becerra, "Did forcing 2-year-olds to wear masks save lives?"
https://twitter.com/justin_hart/status/1668702484309897216?s=20
June 13, 2023

I'd love to transcribe it. But I'm sticking to my March 31, 2023 cap. Anyone else game to transcribe? It's about forcibly masking 2 year-olds, blood boilingly hilarious, Kafkaesquely Ionesco x Monty Python

I'm in the middle of watching Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying's 177th Darkhorse Podcast.

They talk about the book Where There Is No Doctor and the updates between 1992 and 2022 editions. The 2022 edition contains a section on Covid and vaccines, and it goes about as you'd expect. There are also broader updates to recommended vaccines for children, which are...pretty staggering.

Stuff about the book starts at 15 minute mark and goes to about 1 hour 30: https://rumble.com/v2t8xe0-bret-and-heather-177th-darkhorse-podcast-livestream.html

As usual Bret and Heather have good, informative discussion. Worth watching if you have a spare hour & 15.

(I haven't watched the rest of this episode yet; the first hour and a half is what's relevant to these open posts, so that's what I'm talking about.)

This weeks meme points to an important but overlooked aspect of this covid fable. That is: it is enough to cite forced compliance and censorship as the reason to reject the vex. It precedes debating whether the covid con is real, whether the vex works or if vex has side effects.

Lately, there've been posts asking for help citing references that the vex causes side effects 'so I can convince some friends' to not take the vex, etc. Putting aside the issue of whether these posts are data mining for future censorship (and if you really have been reading this forum for a while but still need help finding sources of info, that personally raises a red flag for me), putting that aside, the first thing to address 'undecided' friends is to point out the indisputable fact that they are being prevented from seeing all the information, prevented from making an informed choice. The censorship is active and aggressive and that is not hidden.

Until we abolish 'Ministries of Truth', you can't trust official narratives.

So instead of framing it as 'well here is some alternative info for you to look at', the starting point for convincing the undecided should probably be more like: 'The info given to you by the institutions, the authorities, the 'Science', your government has failed miserably when put in practice (lockdowns, masks, social distancing, vexes, mandates, etc). They have failed you and whether you believe it was malicious or innocent, they have failed you. They are actively censoring alternative info and you cannot make an informed choice. If you cannot accept that something has gone terribly wrong with these institutions, then asking others to provide you with sources of alternative views is not the problem you're having.'

Any thoughts on how to change the ongoing covid discussion toward the undisputed censorship and the inability to actually have an open discussion?

I would but my blood pressure is already too high, viewing that video would probably kill me

Tough bit of cheese that

I'll bet that went over like a shale-flavored iceream cone.

I enjoy Trumps rhetoric and the outbreaks of acute TDS that result from his various pronouncements. In the unlikely event he gets back in, he should challenge Putin to a Tweet-off.

However, as someone from outside the US, the fact that he is seen as some sort of saviour is baffling. That view applies here too though. I remember being at the anti-jab demos in Canberra and chatting to Aussie ex-military guys who were calling Trump the "President of the free world". WTF?

Either he was duped with COVID and the jabs and can't bring himself to admit it, or he's just another controlled opposition figure.

Biden vs Trump represents the ultimate Hobson's choice and is symbolic of how broken the Western political system is.

I-identify-as

The last stage is the reaction to the fact that the harms cannot be ignored, and need to be blamed on something. It's not the reckoning that you seem to be misreading it as. In fact, the last stage includes a new round of lockdowns and mask mandates and the like, as the official narrative insists it must be Covid. So I'm not sure what you're talking about here.

It would be ironic if the magical resistance was the architect of its own destruction.

That would explain a lot of what I am seeing in my circles.

Regarding alternatives to Google that's been asked for a few times before, have any of you tried this:

https://presearch.com/

Seems to be pretty unbiased so far just typing in controversial sites, but I could be missing something.

As far as a hodgepodge of sites that would likely be pushed down the list by an algorithm, searches for: 'ecosophia', 'marketticker', 'UNZ', 'itsgoingdown', 'volkish'... I just get the basics I want.

*I don't mean to associate any of those sites with each other, I just notice it is giving me the basic sort of results I want from an objective search engine.

Back when this forum was starting out, for some weeks I posted a batch of links, imagining that they would be just the dickens to pry open someone's mind. One of the links I included was this one-- it's short but packs a punch:

******
DID YOU ASSUME YOU'VE BEEN GETTING "ALL THE NEWS" FROM "THE NEWS"?
Read: "How Fact-Finding Fauci Led To My Cancellation At Forbes"
by Adam Andrzejewski, Mar 9, 2022
https://openthebooks.substack.com/p/factfindingfaucicanceledforbes
******

I'd still recommend it, and just as warmly now in June 2023. However I am no longer so optimistic as I once was about trying to open anyone else's mind. I've concluded that, well, when they're ready to consider that things are not all that they appear to be, they can lift a quavering little index finger and apply that to their keyboard... It isn't hard to find out alternative information. But it's impossble if you have your head buried in the sand-- and your arm hanging out for more jabs.

I would suggest that you not underestimate the trauma, and the shame many people may experince when they realize they've been systematically lied to about all things covid. Most people who bought the story and got all the jabs simply are not ready to discuss this openly, o matter what information you show them, it's too dangerous for their sense of self, and it unmoors their sense of reality.

With the exception of one relative who was onto the scam from the beginning, and exception of some people I'm in touch with by email, the people in my family and social and professional circles, as far as I have been able to ascertain, are all deadset-certain that anyone who mutters anything about censorhip is an anti-vaxxer nut because, I guess, the New York Times is the fountain of Truth & Goodness in all Things Journalistic. And by the way Putin is totally evil and all Republicans are totally racist and transphobic, so there. Pass the catchup.

But back to your question. Now I would send anyone who would ask to RFK Jr.'s book THE REAL ANTHONY FAUCI because:

#1. It includes important, amply documented information about the censorship

#2. RFK Jr just might get more traction than anyone reading the NYT would ever expect in his campaign for the Democratic Party nomination--in which case, you wouldn't want to be "left in the dust," unaware of what's actually in that book, would you? Or do you want the NYT to just tell you what's in it? Oh, it sold over a million copies, but they never reviewed it. Funny how that is.

PS I can't say it hasn't occured to me that someone, hmmm, I wonder who, might buy a bunch of RFK's book* and maybe some other counter-covid-narrative books, oh I dunno, like maybe the one by Dr. Peter McCullough and John Leake, and stick them in the Little Free Libraries that dot so many US cities and towns. https://littlefreelibrary.org/

*All profits go to Children's Health Defense Fund.

COBALT FRAGRANT AARDONYX

I just truth bomb people with data from official sources. List notable vax injured people - Eric Clapton, Justin Bieber, Kerryn Phelps ex-AMA President who is now vax injured, but was a major jab spruiker previously. Seems Jamie Foxx is another. Quote stats about athlete deaths and comments from whistle blowing doctors, cardiologists, oncologists, pathologists, virologists etc.

Based on ABS data, 1 in 7 deaths in Australia in 2022 were from the jabs. Of course the ABS doesn't say that, but where else did the mysterious excess deaths come from? (Yep I know, climate change probably).

How come Australia showed the exact same rise in COVID cases and excess deaths post-jab as every other heavily jabbed Western country?

But why stop with the jabs? You can truth bomb any major societal delusion - trans issues, Ukraine, climate change, the green transition away from FFs, the EU sanctioning its own energy supplies leading to a recession heading for depression.

Does it make a difference? I'd like to think so, but I don't know. People are on their own journey and I couldn't even convince my kids not to get jabbed.

Do people get angry? Strangely No. They used to, but these days when I talk about jab deaths they say nothing, or mutter a sort of agreement then change the subject. Maybe a point comes where the truth is so obvious that they don't have the emotional energy to argue anymore.

As other people have said, who comes across ordinary people still saying "I'm so glad I got the jabs".

Week 97! Thank you, JMG, and thank you, forumistas.

Cetiosaurus

Kids: "Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet?"

Dad: "We get there when we get there. Now shut up and enjoy the apocalypse!"

I'm pretty sure at this point there's a demonic kind of spite at play. Whether it's on the level of the grand conspiracy - "you people ruined our nefarious plan!" - or whether it's just petty bullying; "damn you peons who wouldn't do what we told ya".

Both of them questioned the medical industry heavily prior to this, so it is a sharp about face, and has me wondering what is going on here.

Well this settles into my brain making a horrible kind of sense.

I've been questioning for a while now why so many of the pagans/occult-types/witches/etc I know and those in the broader circles I travel in have been so...easily taken in by this whole psyop, to this day supporting it with mandatory C19 vaccinations for in-person events.

Similarly, a lot of these folks I know were the types to question the medical establishment and pharmaceuticals. Even those who needed to take pharma drugs for certain reasons would still question Big Pharma on the whole; now if I say "Big Pharma" they call me a right-wing conspiracy theorist.

It has been truly baffling to me, the about-face. Your hypothesis sounds plausible to me, at least as one part of the puzzle.

(Note: I'm in Canada, but TDS levels up here are similar, as is an obsession with US Politics. I go so far as to say our national discourse has been poisoned with it, to the point where many Canadians aren't even aware of what's happening in our country because they're so invested in what's happening to the south of us. If they are aware, they parrot media talking points that paint everything up here in similar colours as in the south, as if we only have 2 sides and one is Bad.

The pagan-types I know up here are generally no exception to this problem.)

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