Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 86

[ecosophia]

As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselessness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Comments

Re: Not all vaccines are the same

[(Anonymous)]

Except they seem to have a tendency to slip that mrna gene rewriting tech into what were ordinary vaccines. Without telling you either. And even before all of this happened - go look up Thimerosal. Pay attention to the numbers in the NFPA diamond. More numbers are bad. Higher numbers are bad.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiomersal

For yucks, look up the NFPA diamond for bleach.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_hypochlorite

In any case - Trust. Is. Gone.

[(Anonymous)]

If I may, the quote at the top of this list is supposed to be from August 19, 2019 and the person in question has since found out the really, really, hard way that it isn't valid for the so-called Covid vaccines.

John of Red Hook

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you for moderating strictly (and I say this as one who has had a couple of posts rejected myself).

Speaking of trolls, I've actually been noticing, and with no small surprise, how few there are elsewhere, where I would assume the comments sections are not moderated (nor not moderated strictly), as for example, on many of the Substack covid-related blogs. I do spot the trolls, but there are actually only a few, and they're pretty obvious & lame. I would have expected more.

P.S. Who else remembers making prank telephone calls?

Tolerance

[boccaccio]

Speed of science? A year and a half after Mark L posted his tolerance hypothesis on this forum, science seems to be catching up. This study has the telling title "IgG4 Antibodies Induced by mRNA Vaccines Generate Immune Tolerance to SARS-CoV-2’spike Protein by Suppressing the Immune System" (https://doi.org/10.20944/preprints202303.0441.v1)

It is a long piece and interesting to read (I haven't yet read it all though). Interesting is that it connects the IgG2 --> IgG4 replacement with several pathologies that we are all too familiar with. From the summary:

"In conclusion, the immune tolerance mechanism induced by mRNA vaccines could
have at least 6 negative unintended consequences:

1) By ignoring the spike protein synthesized as a consequence of vaccination, the host
immune system becomes vulnerable to re-infection with the new Omicron subvariants,
allowing for free replication of the virus once a re-infection takes place. In this situation,
we propose that even these less pathogenic Omicron subvariants could cause significant
harm and even death in individuals with comorbidities and immuno-compromised.

2) mRNA and inactivated vaccines temporally impair interferon signaling [125,126],
causing immune suppression and leaving the individual in a vulnerable situation against
any other pathogen. In addition, this immune suppression could allow the re-activation
of latent viral, bacterial, or fungal infections, and might also allow uncontrolled growth of
cancer cells [127].

3) A tolerant immune system can allow SARS-CoV-2 persistence in the host and
promote the establishment of a chronic infection, similarly to that generated by the hepatitis
B virus (HBV), the human immune deficiency virus (HIV), and the hepatitis C virus
(HCV) [128].

4) The combined immune suppression (produced by SARS-CoV-2 infection and
further enhanced by vaccination) could explain a plethora of autoimmune conditions, cancers,
re-infections, and deaths temporally associated with both. It is conceivable that the
excess deaths reported in several highly COVID-19-vaccinated countries may be explained,
in part, by this combined immunosuppressive effect.

5) Repeated vaccination could also lead to auto-immunity: In 2009, the results of an
important study went largely unnoticed. Researchers discovered that in mice that are
otherwise not susceptible to spontaneous autoimmune disorders, repeated administration
of the antigen promotes systemic autoimmunity. The development
of CD4+ T cells that can induce autoantibodies (autoantibody-inducing CD4+ T
cells, or aiCD4+ T cells), which had their T cell receptors (TCR) modified, was
triggered by excessive stimulation of CD4+ T cells. The aiCD4+ T cell was generated
by new genetic TCR modification rather than a cross-reaction. The excessively
stimulated CD8+ T cells induced them to develop into cytotoxic T lymphocytes
(CTL) that are specific for an antigen. These CTLs were able to mature further
by antigen cross-presentation, so in that situation, they induced autoimmune
tissue damage resembling systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE) [129]. According to
the self-organized criticality theory, when the immune system of the host is continually
overstimulated by antigen exposure at concentrations that are higher (see page 11) than
the immune system's self-organized criticality can tolerate, systemic autoimmunity inevitably
occurs [130].
It has been proposed that the amount and duration of the spike protein produced are
presumably affected by the higher mRNA concentrations in the mRNA-1273 vaccine (100
μg) compared to the BNT162b2 vaccine (30 μg) [94]. Thus, it is probable that the spike
protein produced in response to mRNA vaccination is too high and last too much time in
the body. That overwhelms the capacity of the immune system, thus leading to autoimmunity
[129,130]. Indeed, several investigations have found that COVID-19 immunization
is associated with the development of autoimmune responses [131-148].

6) Increased IgG4 levels induced by repeated vaccination can lead to autoimmune
myocarditis: It has been discovered that IgG4 antibodies can also cause an autoimmune
reaction by impeding the immune system`s ability to be suppressed by regulatory T cells
[86]. Patients using immune checkpoint inhibitors alone or in combination have been
linked to occurrences of acute myocarditis [87-90], sometimes with lethal consequences
[91]. As anti-PD-1 antibodies are class IgG4, and these antibodies are also induced by repeated
vaccination, it is plausible to suggest that excessive vaccination is associated with
the occurrence of an increased number of myocarditis cases and sudden cardiac deaths.
Finally, these negative outcomes are not expected to affect all people who have received
these mRNA vaccines. Individuals with genetic susceptibility, immune deficiencies,
and co-morbidities probably would be the most likely to be affected. However, this
gives rise to a disturbing paradox: if people who are the most affected by the COVID-19
disease (the elderly, diabetics, hypertensive, and immunocompromised people like those
with HIV) are also more susceptible to suffering the negative effects of mRNA vaccines,
is it then justified to booster them? As Omicron subvariants have been demonstrated to
be less pathogenic, and mRNA vaccines do not protect against re-infection, clinicians
should be aware of the possible detrimental effects on the immune system by administering
boosters."

I'm curious what others think of this. Can so many pathologies associated with the vaxx get pinned onto the IgG4 increase?

PS It might be worthwile to save a copy of the piece before it gets "retracted".

The latest trends in excess mortality

[boccaccio]

This week I did my monthly review of the numbers and largely the same trends are in place as for the past months.

In the Netherlands, excess mortality rose from around par (0%) to over 10% in week 10 and 11 (start March 6th). This indicates that another wave of excess mortality is starting. This comes at the heels of the last wave Corona virus that started on Jan 23th and peaked on March 7th. This confirms the usual pattern where excess mortality rises and falls with the waves of the Corona virus with a time lag of a few weeks. Apparently the timelag for the variant of the last wave was a bit more than usual, but it seems that excess mortality is now responding to the increased virus prevalence in Feb.

A new development is that a new wave already started on March 15th. The descending part of the previous wave was only halfway at that date, but since then the amount of virus in the sewage has been rising. It remains to be seen if this is due to the new variant from India that is rumoured to be more virulent. It happened only twice before that a new wave was already rising while the previous hadn’t completed its cycle. This was when Omicron replaced Delta and when the first Omicron variant was replaced by the second Omicron variant.

The English data on the causes of mortality are only available till Feb 24th. England had no excess mortality from late January till that moment, just as the Netherlands. Still there is excess in the category “at home” and in the category liver diseases. This suggests that more than expected people died suddenly, and would be congruent with the hypothesis that excess mortality is caused by damage done by spike protein (please note that we would expect a significant mortality deficit if everything was fine, so mortality being on par with the expectation based on the statistical model is in fact not so good as it sounds.)

So the trends that I’ve reported here since at least last December are continuing. I’m not sure if it is helpful to repeat myself, but they are:
- Excess mortality moves in waves
- The waves follow (usually with a few weeks time lag) the waves in the prevalence of the Corona virus as measured by sewage data
- The English data show excess mortality in categories that are associated with spike damage, and no excess mortality in categories not associated with spike damage (cancer being the only exception)
- Thus it still looks like excess mortality is mainly caused by cumulative spike exposure

PS The big question is how the vaxxed and unvaxxed fare compared to each other. Unfortunately comparative data are treated by the governments and agencies with a secrecy on par with Biden’s nuclear codes. I can only infer something by comparing high vaxxed and low vaxxed countries that are otherwise as similar as possible. In the EU Portugal (highest vaxxed) and Bulgaria (lowest) are interesting. Here I also see the same pattern that I already mentioned before: the unvaxxed countries had higher excess mortality, but since spring 2022 the tables are turned. In early February Portugal was around 0% while Bulgaria had a mortality *deficit* of 19%. The deficit is of course the “pull forward effect”: after the most vulnerable members of the tribe have died, one would expect a period of lower mortality. So far there has only been significant pull forward effects in low-vaxxed countries but non in high vaxxed countries. This suggests that after initial “success” we are now still in the territory of negative vaxx effectiveness. Again, this has all been said before, but it might be helpful to report that the latest data are still in line with the earlier findings and conclusions.

[(Anonymous)]

Haha yes people regularly talk in public about their plans to manipulate others to gain notoriety. I'm sure this is real! (sarcasm in case anyone missed it)

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks for this. It is interesting to see how hard the pharmaceutical execs are fighting – to the point of threatening governments – in an effort to prevent scrutiny of their contracts by anyone other than the signatories. Nothing like openness and transparency, eh?

Ron M

Re: Not all vaccines are the same

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly! People keep framing this issue as a false binary: either you think that everything labelled "vaccine" must be good or you think that everything labelled "vaccine" must be bad. Nonsense. But rhetorically useful nonsense nonetheless.

Re: Not all vaccines are the same

[thinking_turtle]

An article by William Engdahl says that the real cause of Polio is DDT.

The same claim is made in the book "Virus Mania" by Torsten Engelbrecht and Claus Kohnlein. They show that Polio started to appear along with DDT, and disappeared before the vaccine was rolled out.

Ecosophia Prayer List

[tunesmyth]

To those who are interested, here are all of the requests for prayer that have recently appeared across the Ecosophia community. Please feel free to add any or all of them to your prayers.

If I missed anybody on the full list, or if you would like to add a prayer request for yourself or anyone who has given you consent (or for whom a relevant person holds power of consent) to the list, please feel free to leave a comment below and/or at the prayer list page.

* * *

This week I would like to bring special attention to a few prayer requests.

2 year old ES, who was having upwards of 60+ seizures a day, had brain surgery last Tuesday; that he be blessed, protected, and healed completely.

John (Mr. Beekeeper, Beekeeper in Vermont's husband) had quadruple bypass surgery on 3/27; that he be blessed, protected, and healed to the utmost that is possible.

Luke Dodson's friend B, who is undergoing treatment for breast cancer, and is still in serious condition though she's already had surgery; for blessing, protection, healing, and a full return to health.

Lp9's request on behalf of their hometown, East Palestine Ohio, for the safety and welfare of their people and all living beings in the area. The details coming out are still caught in the fog of war (Lp9 gives a short update here, and says "things are a bit... murky"), and various claims of catastrophe and non-catastrophe are flying about, but the reasonable possibility seems to exist that this is an environmental disaster on par with the worst America has ever seen. At any rate, it is clearly having a devastating impact on the local area, and prayers are certainly warranted.

* * *

If there are any among you who might wish to join me in a bit of astrological timing, I pray each week for the health of all those with health problems on the list on the astrological hour of the Sun on Sundays, bearing in mind the Sun's rulerships of heart, brain, and vital energies. If this appeals to you, I invite you to join me.

Re: Ecosophia Prayer List

[tunesmyth]

Actually, as the timescale is quite short, I'll also highlight this prayer request:

Hi's big project that they have worked on for 3 years will go to another level or die completely this Friday. They request prayer in support of it, and to Hi. May what is best for Hi be what comes to pass.

Re: A Bit of News:

[(Anonymous)]

More likely they wanted to make masks optional for a while, finally got cover from some studies going around.

– Donald Hargraves

Re: field note

[thinking_turtle]

'if they say this, reply with this'

That's what I heard too. For example, if the patient responds to authority, say that it is medically necessary. If the patient responds to empathy, say it helps protect others. If the patient is vain, tell them they wouldn't want to lie in the hospital while others go on holiday. And so on.

I think the public health gurus were acting on the surmise of the national defence people who were afraid that this was the doomsday virus and were desperate enough to believe anything might help.

That kind of thinking was leading in The Netherlands. According to Open Government requests, the project organization created for Corona had the anti-terrorism coordinator on top. This could explain the military-like nature of the response.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh that does bring back fond memories. I once was in a chat room (remember 'chat rooms?') and somebody mentioned their friend used to call airports, during the search for Patty Hearst after she became a 'revolutionary,' and have the airport page a possibly 'lost' passenger.
'Will Patricia Hearst please report to the white courtesy phone.'

Re: Ecosophia Prayer List

[thinking_turtle]

Reading that request I wondered what the project was, and if it's a good idea to pray for an unknown project. I think you've found an excellent way to answer that prayer.

May what is best for Hi be what comes to pass!

[(Anonymous)]

If Malone is involved in the mRNA process and patenting weird gunk we should perhaps be taking a look at him.
Just a look.
Not pitchforks or tar and feathers.
Though those seem from another day.

The days of black and white illustrations in hand-type printed newspapers.

Re: Not all vaccines are the same

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry, which vaccines are being replaced with mRNA tech?

[(Anonymous)]

I was one of the people linking to the substance in question. JMG you are correct it is definitely conspiracy theory territory, sorry. I missed that because one thing about this entire situation is it so weird; Seriously mind blowing strange. What in Gods name has just happened. how did it happen why did everyone lose their mind etc. I am having a hard time knowing which way is up and the madness just continues. My L.A. vegan cousin and his girlfriend just had a baby. My uncle and aunt are going out to meet their first and probably only grandchild. They will not be ale to meet this healthy baby without wearing masks. How can such madness be possible.

Will O

Re: More Exposure

[(Anonymous)]

I still think we're going to see a wild pivot towards blaming Trump for the vaccine fairly soon.

National Citizens Enquiry – Toronto

[(Anonymous)]

Heads up, lovers of truth, freedom and all that sort of stuff! Canada’s National Citizens Enquiry will be holding its second series of hearings from March 30 – April 1 in Toronto. The roster of expert witnesses includes:
1: Dr. Eric Payne – Pediatric Neurologist
2: Rodney Palmer – Former CBC Investigative Journalist
3: Irvin Studin – Expert in Constitutional Law
4: Deanna McLeod – Medical Researcher
5: Michael Alexander – Toronto Lawyer
6: Jay McCurdy – Elementary School teacher
7: Cindy Campbell – Nursing Academic
8: Catherine Swift – National President of Canadian Small Business Manufacturers
9: Laura Jeffrey – Ontario Mortician
10: Bruce Pardy – Lawyer
11: Greg Hill – Pilot and ex Captain with Air Canada
12: Dr. Robert Malone (I think we all know who he is)
13: Dr. Mark Trozzi – Outspoken critic of Covid policies in Canada

Those who want to watch the proceedings live can do so here: https://nationalcitizensinquiry.ca/nci-live/

Also, the testimony from the three days of hearings at Truro are now becoming available at the individual testimony level on Rumble (channel: NationalCitizensInquiryCA). Selected testimony clips are also accessible on the main inquiry website: https://nationalcitizensinquiry.ca/testimony-clips/

Once Toronto is completed, the commission moves on to Winnipeg, where hearings will be held from April 13-15. It already has some ‘big guns’ for expert witnesses, including Jessica Rose (expert on the VAERS data), Jay Bhattacharya (Professor of Medicine at Stanford) and Jeffrey Tucker (Founder of the Brownstone Institute). This inquiry rocks!

Freedom! Liberté!

Ron M

Re: A Bit of News:

[(Anonymous)]

I had a dental appointment (at a private clinic) this morning. For the first time since the covid fiasco erupted, they were not imposing masks on everyone entering the premises. Even most of the staff were unmasked. The bottle of sterilizer fluid - only God knows what it actually contains - was still there, but getting ignored.

Re: field note

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you so much for writing this Thinking Turtle. I only had my intuition that it looked like a biowarfare thing to go by and it's interesting to see some confirmation from what you linked to.

[(Anonymous)]

I often wonder what happened to the family at CVS. I think it was 2020 but might have been 2021. Anyway, I had just got in my car to leave when a very angry woman dragged a boy to the car beside me, shouting all the way. I estimated his age as 12-14, more likely on the high end—he had that gangly teenage look. He was sobbing and repeating “I’m sorry! I’m sorry!” It looked like Mom was about to get physical so I asked if I could help. Mom needed someone to listen—she told me how this was the 3rd time he’d agreed to the vax and wouldn’t go through with it, she had limited time to keep doing this, her husband was anti-vax, etc etc. The kid, for his part, just kept repeating he was scared. So I offered to go in with him—as an impartial 3rd party, that might make it easier. This calmed both of them down quite a bit. Mom said she had to head off somewhere else. I gave them my number, told them I was retired and would be happy to help any time. I never heard from either one of them. That kid stays in my memory. He was unmanned by fear. Being a product of the latter 20th century, I never really thought about the concept of “unmanned.” I saw it that day. Most teenage boys, even in our feminized society, would cut off their generative organ an inch at a time before they’d weep loudly in public.

They never called. Did they lose my number? (That’s certainly something I might do.). Did the son submit? Did he and his dad persuade Mom to wait and watch the untested vax for a while?

I feel bad for Mom, too. She was SO angry that I suspect she knew her son was in the right but felt forced to go ahead anyway. Maybe if the whole household wasn’t vaxed, she’d lose all her customers, or all her friends—social life and conformity are critically important to many people these days. Even so, you don’t get that angry unless you know in your heart the other party’s right, but feel you can’t afford to admit it. I think about both of them from time to time, and hope they got through the Covid Panic all right.

—Princess Cutekitten

Re: More Exposure

[(Anonymous)]

Already happening.

[(Anonymous)]

We used to laugh ourselves silly calling random people to confirm if they had ordered 50 pizzas.