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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2023-01-10 01:34 pm

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 75

ironicallyAs we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselessness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion. 

open thread archive .epub, .txt, .html / the whole open thread and comments

(Anonymous) 2023-01-10 06:47 pm (UTC)(link)



The following links contains the archives (.epub and .html, and for Vol. 2 and Vol. 3 there is .txt too)

Volume 1 (everything before 1st March 2022)
Volume 1 - .html archive
https://mega.nz/file/8dBxzC4B#AkuddhK1eMAHK8xtCquBd7Es_19uU0UVAuO26PJ61ow

Volume 1 - .epub archive
https://mega.nz/file/8JYV3QBT#ydwISn-_JZGsa3KCfNlMPZSmCKWEFgTYeMJJnsvN0Dd9c

Volume 2 (everything after 1st of March 2022)

Volume 2 - .html archive
https://mega.nz/file/INBEUapS#hp4rZVkoJCZ4yKEfz-gr48iMpOfLcSVqFWHeoGWq5a4

Volume 2 - .txt archive
https://mega.nz/file/lQ5mEDiR#hrMVcUi03aJLuODjvTrFQbrmq4IRfqJMdO-Osd4c8Rc

Volume 2 - .epub archive
https://mega.nz/file/xFomBI4K#qXMkKUAW2TErbruBb9i7pp30QNmQ8I-0isT7Yj1gfbo

Volume 2 (everything after 20th of September 2022)
Volume 3 - .html archive
https://mega.nz/file/MZ5gXLZL#_bX53YS9XQiT2MXOdf1cBzjBPPbcd2wBWEfya3A_6No

Volume 3 - .txt archive
https://mega.nz/file/ANZxnShI#EPHavgoFMARLi1gxvdjfvP0Gw6FMWnWUsndqtQcruPM

Volume 3 - .epub archive
https://mega.nz/file/JUoHiISA#vSysc0UM1MbidWX65NpBFe62m3PSS--8ttzLlIXDnU0

death rates

(Anonymous) 2023-01-10 06:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that crude death rates are a key statistic to keep track of.

Last year the crude death rate in the US fell by ~7% last year but is still ~13% above pre covid/ vax crude death rates.

If mRNA induced immune system tolerance for covid is as bad as suspected ( some expecting the over 80 years olds having a ~60% higher chance of death ) we should see it there.

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/uk-age-stratified-all-cause-death

I think (hope?) that by the end of this year we should have much more accurate expectations on the effects of covid and its vax.

(Anonymous) 2023-01-10 07:07 pm (UTC)(link)
this is going around at various places:

Those ‘ER doctors’ on Twitter who claimed hordes of patients were dying from COVID every day were FAKE

https://www.naturalnews.com/2023-01-07-er-doctors-on-twitter-covid-fake.html
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Ecosophia Prayer List Update

[personal profile] tunesmyth 2023-01-10 07:17 pm (UTC)(link)
To those who are interested, here are all of the requests for prayer that have recently appeared across the Ecosophia community. Please feel free to add any or all of them to your prayers.

This week I’d like to highlight four prayer requests by people in the hospital or scheduled for surgery. I hope some here will consider giving them a prayer.
Open_space's great aunt, who was taken to the hospital with a low hemoglobin count.
Ottergirl/Valerie's husband Trevor, for healing and good fortune regarding his current hospital stay, for viral pneumonia, a dislocated shoulder, two broken bones, and a Covid positive status which prevents Valerie from seeing him.
Lloyd, who will undergo jaw surgery on January 12th, for healing and a positive resolution.
•Jay Crystall, who underwent surgery yesterday for a resection of a portion of colon, and is now healing


If I missed anybody, or if you would like to add a prayer request for yourself or anyone who has given you consent (or for whom you hold power of consent) to the list, please feel free to leave a comment below and/or at the prayer list page.

Finally, if there are any among you who might wish to join me in a bit of astrological timing, I pray each week for the health of all those with health problems on the list on the astrological hour of the Sun on Sundays, bearing in mind the Sun's rulerships of heart, brain, and vital energies. If this appeals to you, I invite you to join me.
Edited 2023-01-10 19:25 (UTC)
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Re: Ecosophia Prayer List Update

[personal profile] jenniferkobernik 2023-01-10 07:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, poor Trevor! That sounds very difficult. Praying for him and the others.

I would appreciate prayers for figuring out the issues with my milk supply so that I can breastfeed my daughter successfully. Thank you!
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[personal profile] lunchboxbike 2023-01-10 07:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Radio ads are still pushing the vaxes. After one such ad, I heard an ad for "died suddenly" life insurance.

Re: death rates

(Anonymous) 2023-01-10 07:41 pm (UTC)(link)
'Cliff Notes' intro to the article:

*one must assess full risk/reward to accurately gauge a medical intervention
*this bar is especially high for vaccines given to the healthy
*by may 2022 having ever taken a covid vaxx was associated with 22-74% greater all cause mortality vs being unvaccinated and this was true in ALL age stratifications.
*risk rates were still rising when publication of this data series was discontinued and could well be higher now
*some benefit against “death by covid” was still in evidence but was rapidly diminishing and was clearly either being miscounted or swamped by some other form of mortality.
*this implies deeply negative overall risk/reward from covid vaccines and raises pointed questions about their continued promotion and the processes by which they were approved. there was no age group in which they were associated with overall mortality benefit.
*ok, let’s dig in -

(Anonymous) 2023-01-10 07:54 pm (UTC)(link)
That makes me wonder how the advertising industry will 'appropriate' fears and concerns to push products or experiences.

(Anonymous) 2023-01-10 07:57 pm (UTC)(link)
'Dr. Honeyman' really went off the deep end with his personal anecdotes. Not only did his 'sister' lose her life to Covid but his 'husband' went into a coma from Covid. Fortunately his 'keen interest' in poetry may have provided solace.

Re: Ecosophia Prayer List Update

(Anonymous) 2023-01-10 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Can I add a prayer request for my friend Jessica? Doctors found spots on her reproductive organs and she's going in for surgery in February. Given the stories about turbo-cancer, I'm a little concerned.

-Cliff
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Re: Ecosophia Prayer List Update

[personal profile] tunesmyth 2023-01-10 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks, Jen! It sounds like, happily, Trevor is actually doing a bit better than anticipated, but he can still use our prayers.

I will add you to the list with the phrasing you just asked for, but may I ask: would you prefer for us to just pray directly for you to successfully breastfeed your daughter? Or even the higher level issue, for your daughter's good health and development?

My closest childhood friend told me a story. When her daughter was born, she just would not drink. Just refused. And there had been complications and the baby's health was endangered, and it just seemed to her so terribly important to get her daughter drinking. Finally, after many tears and prayers, she just sat down with her baby, and just told her: it is so important for you to drink. Please, please, just drink. And amazingly, the baby did. The prayer to get her daughter drinking was answered!

And then, after that one time, she never drank again!

Luckily, she turned out fine in the end. But it was bottles from then on out. Completely healthy girl, off in college now. I'm not sure whether there are any lessons for you to draw out there-- maybe, at least, that babies somehow seem to be understand us even when they are newborn. Which I'm sure you already knew. I guess one other lesson to draw out is that it seems sometimes not drinking is a choice the baby makes, rather than some shortcoming of the mother. And even though, of course you and I understand the benefits of breastfeeding, if your daughter just doesn't agree... it will still almost certainly be okay in the end.

(Anonymous) 2023-01-10 08:21 pm (UTC)(link)
That would be hilarious if it wasn’t so sad

Steve Kirsch interview of RFK Jr

(Anonymous) 2023-01-10 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/i-interview-robert-f-kennedy-jr-on

Re: death rates

(Anonymous) 2023-01-10 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
German Federal Statistics Office reports 19% above pre covid for december 2022.

https://nitter.net/destatis/status/1612770226088849409#m

Re: open thread archive .epub, .txt, .html / the whole open thread and comments

(Anonymous) 2023-01-10 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you

(Anonymous) 2023-01-10 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes I have seen several such reports. Now it seems that apart from all the nonsense with the tests and "cause of death" reporting, many, many, many of the people that were dying were dying of neglect. What they needed was food, water, antibiotics for pneumonia, apprpriate physical therapy (it's deadly to leave a pneumonia patient just lying there), and some loving family and friends around them.

Reason 1,398 to stay off Twitter.

(Anonymous) 2023-01-10 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Nuts!!

Re: death rates

(Anonymous) 2023-01-10 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
This is what i want to see clarified this year

"*by may 2022 having ever taken a covid vaxx was associated with 22-74% greater all cause mortality vs being unvaccinated and this was true in ALL age stratifications."

If that statement is true i would have expected this years crude death rate to be higher. It is still very elevated ~13% above pre covid pre vax, but down ~7% from the year before. So i am a bit skeptical about the size of the % increases that the bad cat is talking about.

if the crude death rate goes back up or stays the same this year, it would indicate to me that we have a big long term health crisis. If it goes down and keeps going down to pre covid pre vax times we only have to deal with the other predicaments.

(Anonymous) 2023-01-10 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Dear JMG and forumistas, my bouquet of thanks once again-- cowabunga! Week 75!

The covidian scene has definitely changed, I would say, for there are now too many reports of death and injuries, too many doctors speaking out (even while heavily censored), and now the DOD revelations-- I mean, that the entity behind the manufacturing turns out to be the DOD:

https://brownstone.org/articles/did-national-security-imperatives-compromise-covid-19-vaccine-safety/

which points to Sasha Latypova's research


So I'm bracing for a big freaking sausage-grinding rollercoaster of mess.... maybe... who knows... and meanwhile, turning back to the question, "what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries"?

Know how to make healthy soups.

Know how to remedy common skin injuries and other skin issues.

First aid-- knowledge of and supplies for.

It's an endless list iof course but that is what I am focusing on today.

Another note: I was very pleased to find Steve Kirsch airtable of healthpractisioners who do "evidence based" medicine. Perhaps you might be also. Here is the link:

https://airtable.com/shrcXaLNcNOHoZsMt/tbllWWW4RSeGrOwIl

Cetosaurus


is it over?

(Anonymous) 2023-01-10 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Now that is a strange tweet

https://twitter.com/rycunni/status/1612584399417008130


I wish I was a COVID conspiracy theorist early on instead if getting vaccinated. I'm in heart failure. The conspiracy theorists are doing just fine.


I sai open thread 78 31 of January but I don't believe it is more of a sign

Re: death rates

(Anonymous) 2023-01-10 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
prople are nothing strange cases very public cases, so this could have more impact on a mass shift than science

(Anonymous) 2023-01-10 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I am thinking a numerological year of seven is a perfect time for the crazyness to go even more higher just to end and be place for this kind of cycle to close, a numerological Saturn year with Saturn completing the two Signs: Capricorn and Aquarios and the world Saturn is leaving behind going for Pisces is totally different from the one in 2017

I wonder if JMG said something about this numerological year of seven and how might unfold

State of Hospitals

(Anonymous) 2023-01-10 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Hello JMG and fellow commenters,

as somebody who works in the medical industry (on the supply side) I have the opportunity to visit hospitals and doctors on a regular basis. Here are a few key facts:

- Around here hospitals need an occupancy rate of 90% to make a profit
- For each station there is a chief doctor, 2 or 3 senior doctors, regular doctors, a head nurse and the nursing staff
- Each station is big enough that a patient sees the doctor who treats him 2 or 3 times a day, the doctor makes note of the progress (or the general condition) and adjusts the therapy plan when necessary (this was pre-pandemic)

Now in year 2 of the pandemic the situation of general hospitals is dire. The system as a whole works now on triage in some cases because quite frequently the most engaged people have left their job due to vaccine mandates and other sorts of administrative measures.

Last week I visited a General Hospital, specifically a Covid Station. I installed some appliances and I was assisted by the lab technician. Before the pandemic a doctor would visit and look at the new gadgets. I noticed that the station as a whole felt strange. The technician told me that the whole hospital is now on emergency mode. They can't fill up the required medical positions anymore.
A senior doctor now has to supervise 2 stations (before 2 senior doctors oversaw one station). These working conditions put a strain on the staff and the doctors who have remained are on the brink of burning out. Needless to say that the patients get a sub-optimal treatment due to the shortage of qualified staff.

This is in contrast to specialized hospitals where there is no such shortage (yet) and the conditions are more or less the same as pre covid. I suspect the situation is the same all over the Western World which is not talked about in the media.

The situation is pretty bad and I got the impression to better get not sick.

Best wishes for all readers, commenters. Keep up the excellent work.

A boring, less insane update...

(Anonymous) 2023-01-10 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
So my ulimate biz idea is doing different things available different ways... some will be offered online as I test ideas and local markets out ....making art bags is one of the things I'm doing online first ...along with men's casual tailoring, but that'll only be here in san fran... the off the rack wild art coats like short matador jackets covered in moving pom poms i wanna do at craft fairs later...maybe online but i wanna get offline eventually and let others sell online if they wanna deal with shipping hell and nightmares...

Besides point of my art underground is you've gotta go to the trouble to get this stuff in person here in sf so art and place mean something again...

Since I'm doing everything so i don't have to ask for anyone's money favors blessings or permissions... i'm designing the bag patterns, along with the art which I'll then burn onto multiple screens for color separations... then printing and sewing them all up... then figuring best way to showcase and sell online first to give readers here first crack...and affordably ship in affordable boxes... all unsubsidized by cheap money and endless venture capital...

I've gotta run through and streamline the process to keep 'em as reasonable/realistic as possible.

Since I've finally got sketch outlines of answers ideas or directions, I'm hoping to not write on here or even be online much.

I'll be back for photos eventually.. of anything...
They're two computers away.

Anyhow, as much as I figured I sucked yesterday after my shredding, now I think y'all are gonna think me hella pretty after all... if I can pull off the fantasies already dancing in my head into The Real...

Be back eventually... much to do and test out the entire process using my old motorcycle art from old books of mine that I still love.

It's like having my own back catalogue of clip art.

But I have to ask no one for permission.

James isn't permission... he's the beat down I wanna take in private so don't lose face as bad so publicly. I may be a cheap tawdry exhibitionistic art chick, but even hookers gotta keep some things private like earlobes, to quote myself.

This is also using my vanity creatively because the work must come first.

(Smile....and a distant echoing scream...to audible sigh)...find an emoji for that!

X

Erika

Rabbi Chenanya Weissman

(Anonymous) 2023-01-10 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I wasn't sure if this was parody until I got to the end-- LOL, it's not me, we live in the year 2023!


Urgent Health Warning
January 9, 2023
by Rabbi Chenanya Weissman
From: https://chananyaweissman.com/article.php?id=499

After a discussion with experts from Israel's Health Ministry, leading rabbis have issued a call for Jews to stop striking their chest as a sign of penitence during the thrice-daily Shemoneh Esrei prayer, the selichos, and on Yom Kippur. The longstanding custom, widely known by the Yiddish term klopping al chet, may lead to cardiac arrest.

According to data from a study, striking the chest in this fashion can lead to a condition known as commotio cordis, in which the impact of an object striking the chest area over the heart at just the right millisecond can cause sudden death. Although such cases are rare, they have been known to happen, and the increase in sudden deaths among people without a history of heart problems has caused experts to examine this as a possible cause.

The Rabbinic organization known as All The Gedolim put out a statement: “The Torah commands us to listen to whatever doctors say, all the time, without exception. The Health Ministry is in charge of doctors, and therefore we must listen to anything the Health Ministry says. It has been brought to our attention that striking the chest is a safek pikuach nefesh, and therefore it is forbidden. No distinction can be made between how forcefully one strikes his chest, for who can measure such things?

“Anyone who strikes his chest is a sinner who is endangering his life and his prayers are rejected. Furthermore, since his actions may lead others to strike their chests as well, he can be considered a rodef.”

Chief Rabbi of Tzfat, Shmuel Eliyahu, wrote in a Facebook post that the Shulchan Aruch and Megilla 3B support this ruling.

Rabbi Yuval Cherlow, director of the Center for Jewish Ethics at Tzohar, posited that people who strike their chests should be denied medical care if they have a heart attack. “Their reckless actions may cause medical care to be diverted from patients who are more deserving,” he stated. “Although Israel's medical system treats injured terrorists without bias, sometimes at the expense of their victims, kloppers are on a lower level, like anti-vaxxers.”

Rabbi Herschel Schachter, Rosh Yeshiva at Yeshiva University and posek for the Orthodox Union, ruled that children who klop al chet can be thrown out of yeshiva, lest they cause a bad influence on other children and endanger their lives.

Leading Modern Orthodox and Reform Rabbis quickly embraced the scientific findings and issued a similar ruling, though they added that their followers stopped klopping al chet long ago, as they preach separating the sin from the sinner, and even embracing sin with love.

The Prime Minister said there are no plans to send police into synagogues and yeshivos to enforce the new health guidelines, though he warned that “all options are on the table” if cases of sudden death continue to rise.

After all, he concluded, if stopping the klopping saves one life, it's worth it.

*

Note: Since it never seems to be obvious enough, the above was satire. The following is not.



Here is an actual screenshot [goes to a FB link] from Hatzolah of Melbourne in May of 2022.
 
 
 "Get vaccinated for your chance to win a CellAED defibrillator". 
 
Hatzolah should be banished from the Jewish community and replaced with an organization that has no ties with the World Economic Forum and other enemies of Hashem and humanity.

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