Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 6

[ecosophia]

The semi-open posts  I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a gargantuan (and increasing) number of comments, so I'm opening another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 

3. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion. 

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

TheNebulator on telegram:

You get two posts tonight, though, because I simply have to comment on the sheer irony of Onika Tanya Maraj-Petty, far better known as Nicki Minaj, becoming the unlikely hero in the fight for common sense against the Branch Covidian cult (as Eric D. July so memorably calls it).

Everything about that story is just

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TheNebulator on telegram: <blockquote>You get two posts tonight, though, because I simply have to comment on the sheer irony of Onika Tanya Maraj-Petty, far better known as Nicki Minaj, becoming the unlikely hero in the fight for common sense against the Branch Covidian cult (as Eric D. July so memorably calls it).

Everything about that story is just <chef's kiss> perfect: from the original tall tale of "her cousin's friend in Trinidad" getting his wedding called off because his testicles swelled up ( the symptom is more commonly associated with some STDs, but that was obvious from the get-go) — to her point that people should make the decision for themselves instead of getting bullied into it, to the shrieking response of everyone from her fandom to pundits to Big Tech and the government of Trinidad...

Is there a better way to expose the sheer absurdity of the System, than a rapper with millions of social media followers not giving a damn? When facts and arguments don't help, because people offering them get censored or smeared, it's down to the jesters — and entertainers are the biggest jesters of all, aren't they?

Years from now, when the Davos set has failed in their attempt at a neo-feudal Great Reset, we'll look back and try to figure out the exact moment the tide turned. It's entirely possible this will be it.</blockquote>

(from erika lopez)

[(Anonymous)]

you gave me chills. thanks for this. i was seeing it slightly differently for a moment. i'd worried that she was going to cave to go on tour. i'd seen that tweet posted somewhere and was hoping it was BEFORE all this and that she'll see what she started.

thank you thank you...

sooo needed this point.

x

[(Anonymous)]

I ran across this site, via https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/the-vaccinated-superspread-hypothesis :

https://www.usmortality.com/

The data apparently comes from the CDC and the 2020 census. It may be a way to get a sense of Covid deaths versus the overall death rate.

-Cliff

[methylethyl]

Those are interesting charts, but I don't understand the numbers they're using as the x axis-- does it make sense to measure time data in 0-55 rather than months? It makes the charts hard to read.

Also, why do the graphs for NY, NJ, and CT, look so different from everybody else's? Is it a function of population density, or reporting fraud? did NC really have no deaths for months? That seems odd. Am I reading it wrong?

The boriquagato link is very clearly written. Thanks for that. He seems to be suggesting a Marek's scenario, which is alarming.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, it looks like the push to evict the unvaccinated is starting:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/florida-landlord-says-tenants-must-get-covid-19-vaccine-or-move-out/ar-AAO7EJX

new slogans

[(Anonymous)]

some new slogans to consider

Barter is better.

Barter back better.

Black Markets Matter.

Re: new slogans

[(Anonymous)]

I'm stealing BMM. Thank you.

Final Rejection

[deng]

I submitted an appeal to my MGH religious exemption request yesterday morning and yes I put more effort in the writing and proof reading. I was even polite for the first 2/3rds of it but couldn't help but finish with a declaration of the wrongness of requiring people to "eviscerate" themselves before them with personal stories begging so we may have more gruel, I mean work. I stated the mandates were illegal and immoral and went against everything I was raised to believe as an American citizen.

I did end up hooking up with about 150 people fighting the mandate with 1st rejections. A few appeals have won approval. The last day for one of the shots was today. I guess I missed that.

I won't be missing the protest tomorrow from 12-3 at the Massachusetts state house! Be There or Be Square! HA!! Peace Den:)

Re: Final Rejection

[deng]

I forgot to be clear - it took them less than 3 hours to reject it! HA! to that to! Den:)

Vaccine Passport International Comparison

[(Anonymous)]

Se have people from all over the world in this forum, so it would be interesting to hear on the ground reports of the vaccine passport status in each country. Here's my summary just based on random news that comes my way without any further investigation on my part. Would be interesting to hear confirmation from people on the ground:-

Most countries: passports for workers in health industries or other "high risk" jobs
Italy - about to require passports for all workers
US - passports for all workers in companies bigger than 100. Some state based passports restricting access to restaurants etc.
Denmark/Sweden - have dropped passports
England - dropped passports but strongly hinting they will be brought back in winter
Australia/NZ/France - passports restricting access to restaurants etc.
Russia - tried passports but they failed miserably so were dropped quickly
Holland/Lithuania/Slovenia - recently introduced passports restricting access to restaurants etc.

Would be interesting to hear other accounts especially from non-western countries.

Re: Vaccine Passport International Comparison

[stcathalexandria]

The U.S. OSHA requirement for vax with companies over 100 employees was said in the speech. No actual regulation or law was passed!!!!!!!!

Everyone is acting like it happened and it did not. Amazing how quickly people act like something occurred when it was only spoken. Almost like magic or something.

Kim Iverson

[(Anonymous)]

Cracks are widening. Kim Iverson dropping truth bombs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZyYQrw6ra0&t=1077s

Darren

Re: Kim Iverson

[(Anonymous)]

Re VaxPassports in Japan: probable test phase in October with roll out in November. Severity uncertain, though I anticipate all name brand industrial and business sectors will hasten to prove themselves loyal bannermen.

What's going on in Africa?

[(Anonymous)]

I just heard that only about 4% of the population of the continent of Africa are vaccinated. So, are they dropping like flies? I haven't heard a peep of news coming out of Africa, so I'm guessing they are doing alright. Does anyone know what's going on over there?

Thanks,
-Slink

Re: What's going on in Africa?

[(Anonymous)]

Various hypotheses have been put forward for the low rate of SARS-CoV2 infection in sub-Saharan Africa (with the exception of SA and adjacent far-south countries). One is that many of these countries prescribe ivermectin to all citizens as prevention against parasitic diseases. Another is that there seems to be an inverse correlation between malaria prevalence and covid infection, and there is some degree of cross-reactivity between malaria antibodies and the SARS-CoV2 virus.

Mark L

Hate is the new sex

[(Anonymous)]

I was reading some discussion about unvaccinated by vaccinated, and was struck by the ruthless blind hatred. And got to thinking how we can't be sexist or racist or mean to this or that group and maybe all this hate is stemming from people repressing these feelings and now there finally being a socially acceptable target. Reminded me of your blog post from 2017 and now I'm wondering if this is the hate revival.

Re: Hate is the new sex

[(Anonymous)]

This is a really excellent point. It sure feels right.

[(Anonymous)]

I apologize for asking this, I imagine it was addressed already in the many previous comments but I haven't been able to read through them all yet. Would someone be willing to point me in the direction of either a good overview or a collection of links of the animal studies done with coronavirus vaccines, and the long term consequences observed?

I'm firmly in the 'rather die than get it' camp, and have been from the beginning, I do not in any way wish to be mistaken for someone trying to run interference for the shots. I'm looking for sources I might able to convince friends/relatives of the potential long term risks.

I currently am worrying about the push to give it to younger kids, that's likely coming in the next couple months. I currently have family and friends where one person is gungho about the vax and their spouse is more skeptical. One of the skeptics asked me for the animal data, since there are no long term human trials yet...

If anyone could point me in the right direction I would appreciate it.

[(Anonymous)]

I've just finished watching this 38 minute interview with John O'Looney, a British funeral director, posted at Lew Rockwell's website on 9/16: https://www.lewrockwell.com/political-theatre/uk-funeral-director-john-olooney-blows-the-whistle-on-covid/. It's quite shocking and deeply disturbing...I don't quite know what to make of it. I know that our host will not watch it but I'm very eager to hear other folk's thoughts. I confess I feel real shaken by it at the moment...wish there was a transcript so JMG could comment as well.

[(Anonymous)]

I can't watch it because what I can do on the Internet is constrained by being stuck in Windows XP, but I can't be the only person to whom it has occurred that it's not going to help this guy's case, even if he isn't some random kook just spouting off, that his surname is "O'Looney".

Robert Kennedy + Chris Martenson

[deng]

Hi John - I really believe this 56 minute video is worth its own post. I hope you will consider it. I was able to play at x1.1 speed. Others may be able to choose higher. RK has a vocal cord condition that effects his speech as you may know.

Chris interviews Robert Kennedy Jr. Lays out Fauci, NIH, and the Medical Imperialism history and process. A very important video.
https://www.peakprosperity.com/medical-imperialism-driven-by-pure-greed-an-interview-with-robert-kennedy-jr/

RKs new book. I bought 2. Give 1 away. Preorder at
https://www.amazon.com/Real-Anthony-Fauci-Democracy-Childrens/dp/1510766804

Please check these out. Den

[(Anonymous)]

Brilliant, Anonymous ( about hate and the unvaccinated). I think you're on to something there.

Electromagnetic waves

[(Anonymous)]

Another thing I thought of today which could be impacting people's health and is indirectly linked to the ongoing plague is the increased use of wireless devices.

Admittedly this was already a trend, but with more people working on laptops over home wifi rather than ethernet-connected devices in offices, and the ubiquity of wireless headphones for calls at home (Even in the office, I had a bizarre experience the other day of 6 people speaking on an internet call with each other, as well as presumably others elsewhere, all of whom were metres away from each other, and all wearing wireless headphones)

Add to that people being stuck at home and watching streaming services, and regardless of your thoughts on the safety of EM radiation, it really doesn't feel like a great idea to be bathed in that many radio waves, especially positioned right next to your brain.

The Latest Update from Reiner Fuellmich

[(Anonymous)]

Trial lawyer (Germany and USA) Dr. Reiner Fuellmich, co-founder of the Corona Investigative Committee offers a summary of findings to date.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/hx1ksGkSwOBR/

It is almost 40 minutes long, but well worth watching. For those who don't do video, it's perfectly fine for just audio, too.

Take away quote: "If I had been told this a year ago, I would not have considered it to be possible. Now, after questioning hundreds of experts, it is clear beyond doubt and provable: at no time was it about health."-- Reiner Fuellmich

My personal take on this: I celebrate and deeply appreciate what Dr Fuellmich is doing for human rights. My only criticism, and, alas, I believe it is a vital one, is that he, like so many people doing this good work, conflates too many people into what he terms "Mr Global." Many high-level bankers and bureaucrats, they're as frightened and consternated as anyone else-- and, by the way, they got themselves and their families vaxxed, too.

That said, I do believe that the trends towards transhumanism -- pushing to make us do everything via an app on a smartphone-- if you have to have the thing with you all the time, that fits the definition of transhumanism-- is a serious danger to human rights, and too many people who make public policy have thoughtlessly, rather than conspirationally, jumped onto that so-very fashionable bandwagon.

On that note, I'd like to recommend the recent TECHBONDAGE by James Tunney. https://www.jamestunney.com/books

Lavender Exoskeletinoid Lark

Re: The Latest Update from Reiner Fuellmich

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks for this!
Looks like the lawyers are now (understandably) taking a stand.

The Indian Bar Association has been pursuing the WHO on ivermectin misinformation and issues associated with forcing the vax:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD9BYCYwsUI

And in Canada, some human rights lawyers are starting to speak out regarding the right to choose:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94WzSJiavys

[(Anonymous)]

Anyone else manage to forget the winter of 2017-18 when the flu overwhelmed hospitals?

https://time.com/5107984/hospitals-handling-burden-flu-patients/

[stcathalexandria]

We all had that flu that winter and it was awful. 2-3 days of fever and feeling like my head was squeezed in a vice, plus all the intestinal symptoms. I could see it sending weaker people to the hospital.

Religious Expemptions

[(Anonymous)]

How to get a Religious Exemption?

In case this hasn't already been posted, here is an info-rich "how to" site with some success cases and lots of advice:

https://www.thehealthyamerican.org/religious-exemption-letter


Yellowed Marshmallowed Lumurian

What has destroyed critical thinking?

[(Anonymous)]

I studied a degree in biology, and have a medical-related job, and so am at least moderately surrounded by intelligent, medically and scientifically literate friends and colleagues, who can read a scientific paper, understand statistics and if presented with a proposal as to implementing a change of some description (be it a new drug, a change to a medical device, or a new chemical into the environment), they would probably be able to argue both for and against doing so.

Two of my friends actually study nanoparticles for a living. Nanoparticles which have been shown to be at least mildly toxic for over 10 years (hence why they are not used in orher drugs) and are found in the Pfizer offering, in the form of nanolipids.

One of my friends is staunchly anti-government, reads conspiracy theories, and insisted I only contact him on Whatsapp, as it's 'more secure' (for all that's worth, being owned by facepalm).

And yet, as far as I know, virtually all of them have been vaccinated. None of them seem to have a problem with the vaccination program, and most seemed excited it was their 'turn' when it reached our age group.

Several friends had horrible side effects to their injections, then a few weeks later asked when I was getting mine.

The information on safety is right out there if you know where to look, or can think about the possible effects on the human body of it producing a protein which causes blood cell clotting. (To say nothing of the many, many other reasons why these vaccines, to me at least, seem a terrible idea and should never have even reached clinical trials on paper)

What has destroyed so many otherwise intelligent people's ability to think critically about both the coronavirus and its purported vaccines?

The worst thing is, seemingly once someone has been vaccinated, they further lose all ability for reason around the vaccines, and you can count on a very, very defensive reply to even the mildest comment around vaccine efficacy or safety. (A riddle - when is a vaccine not a vaccine? Is it when it's neither safe nor effective? Apparently not.) I have come to think of it as joining the Borg collective.

The only similar thing is when I've joked about running out of oil in the past - they just look at me with a baffled face as if to say "that could happen??" or "nah, we'll find *something* before then" and change the subject. So perhaps it's to do with the whole myth of progress for them. But, if you progress too far, you'll always end up in the sea... They are all, obviously, very much PMC as well, and I guess have the most to lose, so probably don't want to think about the end of the industrial age. Whereas I would quite happily retreat to the woods.

Otherwise, I am happy to go with JMG's hypothesis of dark magic and demons, which seems as plausible as anything at the moment.

I am also extremely grateful to the people posting on this forum who have stated that they are vaccinated, but have doubts - this gives me hope that not everyone is crazy or has been 'turned'!

Re: What has destroyed critical thinking?

[(Anonymous)]

I'm willing to bet that the thing about the Borg that made them so creepy to Star Trek viewers was that they, not the Federation, are the most progressive beings shown in the series. They are advanced, and have taken the "everyone thinks the same" which plays a major role in Star Trek to its logical conclusion. So of course the last few years of Progress will see the progressives turn into the Borg....

Hearing # 37 of German Corona Extra-Parliamentary Inquiry Committee. 30 January, 2021

[(Anonymous)]

I just found a link to this hearing which took place in Germany in Jan. of this year. They mention in the hearing that the transcripts of the hearing itself and results of their studies are going to be sent to the US and the entire Eurozone. Since the hearing took place in January, surely this information was received by the US well before this summer.

The hearing was mainly about the Pfizer/BioNtech vaccine, but does mention other vaccines as well. By the way, it is suggested that one should not mix vaccinations when getting boosters, if one is so inclined to take more shots. There are reasons given for this suggestion; least among them is the fact that by allowing patients to mix and match the vaccines, there cannot be reliable data collected about specific side effects and issues with one manufacturer vs another.

While the transcript is lengthy, I really suggest that people take the time to read it in full. The link I have offers a transcript in English and in German.

The hearing offered some appalling information; I simply cannot believe that these vaccines were approved if even half of what they discuss is borne out by continuing studies.


http://enformtk.u-aizu.ac.jp/howard/gcep_dr_vanessa_schmidt_krueger/

Re: Hearing # 37 of German Corona Extra-Parliamentary Inquiry Committee. 30 January, 2021

[bluemoose]

I'll second that. Worth a close look. Did a quick scan first, then went back and slowly and carefully reread everything. Very informative. Also saved for later use if someone asks why I'm not getting jabbed.

[(Anonymous)]

Has anyone noticed from an evolutionary perspective, if the vaxxed are having serious health and fertility issues - they are selecting for orneriness and intelligence (in some combination) over loyalty and obedience and submission? People have pointed out it is the midwits mostly who are getting it, leaving the super smart and the ornery dumb refusing it.

I sense the late 2020s could be a very different place than it is today...

ADE Natural Selection

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, I've thought this many times as well. The major tragedy here is that, though this bunch is largely composed of "midwits", a large share of them possess a high degree of conscientiousness and community-mindedness (which is being exploited by malign forces, in this case) that most ornery, individualistic and above-average intelligence people lack. An impoverished future with hard limits could really use people like them. If only they hadn't been so easily duped.

-balowulf

Reduced Office Hours

[stcathalexandria]

Got this disturbing email today -
Patient First urgent care is reducing their hours from 8am-10pm, to 8am-8pm (telehealth 8am-6pm) for the following reasons:

"We are making these temporary changes because our Medical Centers have recently experienced an unsustainable increase in patient visits. With an increase in illness in the community -- and as other medical practices have begun to require appointments, or in other ways limit the patients they will see, and as emergency rooms and primary care physicians divert patients to us -- we have seen an unanticipated and overwhelming number of patients. This surge has resulted in long waits at our centers, often for patients with acute illness or injury. It has also imposed an increasing strain on our providers and staff at a time when they are already working very hard to care for the community."

They can't see patients because the system is overloaded. I am getting frightened because we aren't even into flu season yet.

Re: Reduced Office Hours

[stcathalexandria]

I wanted to add that their email did not use the word Covid or coronavirus once.

Feedback from a double vaccinated

[(Anonymous)]

I haven't been vaccinated but virtually everybody I know has.

I spoke to a friend this week from work, who is in the clinically vulnerable category and got double-jabbed earlier this year with the AstraZeneca vaccine.

She is not a believer in progress and actually dislikes vaccines in general (I get the impression she is a mild anti-vaxxer in the pre-Covid definition). Her feedback on how she and everybody she knows who got jabbed was very interesting:

1) she doesn't feel herself since being jabbed, and her friends/family feel the same.
2) she constantly feels tired, lacks energy and generally not her old self since getting jabbed. Her friend, also double-jabbed, maintains a spreadsheet of how they feel and my friend has the same symptoms. She is convinced that it is vaccine caused (not lockdown related mental health or some other theory).

Given the anecdotal reports circulating of cognitive decline among the jabbed, I thought this might be of interest to this thread.

Re: Feedback from a double vaccinated

[(Anonymous)]

I got this. Double-vaxxed with AZ. By a couple of months after the second I had exhaustion, racing heart, and failed a blood test for blood sugar, cholesterol, blood pressure and heart rate. And my periods haven't been normal since the first one.

It seems to have cleared up in the last fortnight, with a combination of ramipril (for blood pressure) and Atkins (for the blood sugar). I lost 7kg in a fortnight and the nurse doesn't believe it. I feel myself again. My blood pressure is normal, rather than "unacceptable", and they are not after all diagnosing me as diabetic. I am thinking and moving and talking more coherently.

The ramipril suppresses ACE. The spike in the AZ suppresses ACE-2. They're antagonists.

Ask for a blood test and blood pressure test.

[(Anonymous)]

Remember when Biden said something about sending people door-to-door to convince people to vaccinate? Anyone ever have anybody come to their door?
This is a psyop.

[methylethyl]

If you're terrified of spreading a contagious disease... wouldn't sending people door-to-door be the *last* thing you'd want to do?

At least the contact-tracing would be simple...

[(Anonymous)]

A weird number of people in my larger friend circle (in their 30s) have been dying lately for various reasons unrelated to Covid. Accidents, ODing, etc... just a data point.

Vaccines increasing cancer incidence?

[(Anonymous)]

This counts as unsubstantiated evidence for now, although the guy has credentials and would certainly have first hand experience. Has anyone else seen credible reports of increasing cancer diagnoses following vaccination?

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/idaho-doctor-reports-a-20-times-increase-of-cancer-in-vaccinated-patients/


If this is happening it does make sense from an immunological perspective.

We have killer T cells (CD8) constantly patrolling our bodies for cells that are making strange proteins, which is a good indicator of developing malignancy.

When thousands or millions of our cells start making strange (spike) proteins, we can expect our killer T cells to be at best temporarily overwhelmed ("exhaustion"), or at worst downregulated over a longer period to prevent a massive auto-attack on spike producing cells ("tolerance"). Either way it seems likely that they would miss some cancerous or precancerous cells that they would otherwise have killed.

Yet another cause for concern...

Mark L

Re: Vaccines increasing cancer incidence?

[ecosophia]

I've heard a flurry of anecdotes along these lines but that's all. You're quite correct, of course, that it makes total immunological sense -- and if that's the mechanism involved, that would suggest that it would be a very good idea to watch for unexpected opportunistic infections as well.