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Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 86

As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselessness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.

3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

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Many vaccines do a lot of good; smallpox, polio, tetanus, rubella, mumps for boys who haven't caught it by puberty.

Others are sort of marginal, chickenpox being one example.

The clot shot was a different beast entirely, at least for anyone tolerably healthy and under 70.

You can't lump them all together something both extreme sides are prone to doing.

"Many vaccines do a lot of good".

This excerpt from RFK Jr's "The Real Anthony Fauci" book highlights the temporal link between the ramp up of childhood vaxxes after the manufacturers gained legal immunity in the late 80s and the explosion in a range childhood ailments and allergies.

RFK Jr lists other toxins and possible causes of the deterioration, but none of those are injected straight into your bloodstream umpteen times before you're 5 years old.

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Following WWII, life expectancy in the US climbed for five decades, making Americans among the longest-lived people in the developed world. IQ also grew steadily by three points each decade since 1900. But as Tony Fauci spent the 1990s expanding the pharmaceutical and chemical paradigm —instead of public health— the pace of both longevity and intelligence slowed.

The life expectancy decrease widened the gap between the US and its peers to nearly five years,57 and American children have lost seven IQ points since 2000.

Under Dr. Fauci’s leadership, the allergic, autoimmune, and chronic illnesses which Congress specifically charged NIAID to investigate and prevent, have mushroomed to afflict 54 percent of children, up from 12.8
percent when he took over NIAID in 1984.

Dr. Fauci has offered no explanation as to why allergic diseases like asthma, eczema, food allergies,
allergic rhinitis, and anaphylaxis suddenly exploded beginning in 1989, five years after he came to power. On its website, NIAID boasts that autoimmune disease is one of the agency’s top priorities. Some 80 autoimmune diseases, including juvenile diabetes and rheumatoid arthritis, Graves’ disease, and Crohn’s disease, which were practically unknown prior to 1984, suddenly became epidemic under his watch.

Autism, which many scientists now consider an autoimmune disease, exploded from between 2/10,000 and 4/10,000 Americans when Tony Fauci joined NIAID, to one in thirty-four today.

Neurological diseases like ADD/ADHD, speech and sleep disorders, narcolepsy, facial tics, and
Tourette’s syndrome have become commonplace in American children. The human, health, and economic costs of chronic disease dwarf the costs of all infectious diseases in the United States.

By this decade’s end, obesity, diabetes, and pre-diabetes are on track to debilitate 85 percent of America’s citizens.

America is among the ten most over-weight countries on Earth. The health impacts of these epidemics—which fall mainly on the young—eclipse even the most exaggerated health impacts of COVID-19.

What is causing this cataclysm? Since genes don’t cause epidemics, it must be environmental toxins. Many of these illnesses became epidemic in the late 1980s, after vaccine manufacturers were granted government
protection from liability, and consequently accelerated their introduction of new vaccines.

The manufacturer’s inserts of the 69 vaccine doses list each of the now-common illnesses—some 170 in total—as vaccine side effects. So vaccines are a potential culprit, but not the only one.

Other possible perpetrators—or accomplices—that fit the applicable criterion—a sudden epidemic across all demographics beginning in 1989—are corn syrup, PFOA flame retardants, processed foods, cell phones and EMF
radiation, chlorpyrifos, ultrasound, and neonicotinoid pesticides. The list is finite, and it would be a simple thing to design studies that give us these answers.

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childhood schedule

Is there a rough estimate of how many children have been harmed over the period of Fauci's incumbency?

Except they seem to have a tendency to slip that mrna gene rewriting tech into what were ordinary vaccines. Without telling you either. And even before all of this happened - go look up Thimerosal. Pay attention to the numbers in the NFPA diamond. More numbers are bad. Higher numbers are bad.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiomersal

For yucks, look up the NFPA diamond for bleach.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_hypochlorite

In any case - Trust. Is. Gone.

Sorry, which vaccines are being replaced with mRNA tech?

Flu vaccines. But there may be more, if they can keep it secret.

Exactly! People keep framing this issue as a false binary: either you think that everything labelled "vaccine" must be good or you think that everything labelled "vaccine" must be bad. Nonsense. But rhetorically useful nonsense nonetheless.

I always try to specify “this vaccine.”

As in “I don’t have a problem with all vaccines. I have a problem with this (these/mRNA) vaccine(s).”

I’m just utterly astonished by the people who can’t and won’t admit that this was an experiment. And experiments fail. All the time. Matter of fact that’s why we conduct experiments. You know to see what works and what doesn’t.
Baffling.

It's also astonishing to me - and has been for many years - that people can't seem to grasp that some vaccines may be useful for in some situations, but that vaccines, like almost every other medical product, have been over-sold, and that medical recommendations are often influenced by things other than "science." Suggest that things like antibiotics, c-sections, heart medications, pain management drugs, you name it, can be valuable, but that they are also over-used or over-prescribed for all sorts of wrong reasons, and people will nod sagely, and probably share stories of their own or others' experiences with just such over-use and over-prescription, and the negative experiences that resulted. But suggests the same thing about vaccines? OMG - ANTIVAXXER MORON!

An article by William Engdahl says that the real cause of Polio is DDT.

The same claim is made in the book "Virus Mania" by Torsten Engelbrecht and Claus Kohnlein. They show that Polio started to appear along with DDT, and disappeared before the vaccine was rolled out.

I've read that, and found the evidence is pretty good for the hypothesis. However, the link between Polio and the the poliovirus seems equally convincing to me. For what it's worth, the most convincing explanation I've seen is that DDT causes changes to the poliovirus, which then causes polio.

It's the most convincing explanation I've seen that allows for the fact that both seem implicated in the disease.

Stated as a fact or possiblity it's mind-boggling.
Stated as a 'cause' it's like something concocted by Unit 731.

I'm not sure I understand your point here.

I do not doubt it at all and it seems mind boggling it would happen. Did happen.
I do not doubt A combined with B causes X.

That A combined with B causes X seems like a war crime. Like the result of a war crime.
Like the result of criminal behaviour.

This is phrased so weirdly...

Excellent. It's good to struggle with language.

I'm not at all sure what you're trying to do here, but I'm no longer interested in engaging with this, whatever it is.

Just answering your questions to the best of my ability. okay, Best wishes.

ask yourself why you believe that. what data have you seen? if you actually look at the data (from ourworldindata), you find:

The country with the highest deaths per million of population for TB is Niger (31 deaths/million people). Niger is 95% vaxxed against TB. Of the top 10 countries with the highest death rates from TB (average of around 25 deaths/million people), half are at least 95% vaccinated.

At the other end of the scale, Ireland stopped vaccinating entirely against TB in 2015, and is in the bottom 10 for deaths (0.2 deaths per million). Switzerland is notable here too, with 0.36 deaths per million (in the bottom 20 for deaths from TB, from a total of 155 countries for which I could find all the data), and 76% of its population unvaccinated.

Put simply, the country with the highest death from TB is almost completely vaccinated against TB; the country with almost the lowest rate of death from TB is completely unvaccinated.

the same pattern is true of all other vaccines, with the sole exception of rabies; that 1 will save your life. but really, the accepted wisdom will damage or kill your children, according to the actual data.

• Are vaccines effective? What does history tell us?
"For children over one year of age, the overall decline in mortality during the 20th century has been dramatic. In 1900, more than 3 in 100 children died between their first and 20th birthdays; today, fewer than 2 in 1,000 die. Nearly 85% of this decline occurred before the Second World War, a period when few antibiotics or modern vaccines and medicines were available".

"Annual Summary of Vital Statistics", PEDIATRICS, the official journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics. DOI: 10.1542/peds.106.6.1307

• If vaccines are not effective, what has improved health over the last century?
"The incidence of diseases such as cholera and typhoid has dropped dramatically, despite the lack of vaccines. In 1900, the incidence of typhoid fever (for which there has never been a vaccine) in the United States was about 100 cases per 100,000 people. By 1920, it had dropped to 33.8 cases per 100,000 people. By 2006, it had dropped to 0.1 cases per 100,000 people. This decrease in the disease is attributed to the introduction of disinfection and treatment of drinking water, improved quality of water sources, and improved sanitation and hygiene. It is because of these successes that we can celebrate more than a century of disinfection and treatment of public drinking water - one of the greatest public health achievements of the 20th century".

https://www.cdc.gov/healthywater/drinking/history.html

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