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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2022-11-08 01:46 pm

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 66

Smudge for the winAs we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.     
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[personal profile] methylethyl 2022-11-08 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I dunno. Maybe instead of simply replacing the one or two words that have edged out every other kind of swearing in the English language, we could try to revive the fine art of lengthy, creative, florid, swearing that still exists (I hear) in at least a few other major languages.

excrement's always popular of course, but it'd be better if more of our excrement phrases involved robot vacuum cleaners, half-digested balloons, the dung of exotic animals...

(shrugs)
I'm a novice at it myself, but I think with a bit of practice, it could be done! Every swear should leave an indelible mental image of unutterable horror ;)
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[personal profile] stcathalexandria 2022-11-08 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not counting on this election moving us towards resolution, justice, or more freedom, but I still seek peaceful place to stand against the government.

It looks like the only relief to be found was in two religions - the Amish and the Rosicrucians. I didn't hear what happened with those who asked for exemption as Druids. Am I missing any others?

If I wanted to create another option, what does it take to found a religion in the US? It looks like to keep the government off of me, I need to formally be a part of one that is against vaccination, digitally stamping me, and whatever other crazy scheme they come up with next from the book of Revelation.

Would love any history of starting a religion or advice or tips. Probably should have started on this earlier, but here we are.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-08 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
RE. the Oil Lady: I've had two patients who had the blood patch (to treat CSF leak caused by spinal surgery), and both enjoyed dramatic relief from severe headaches without complications. Full disclosure: I've never performed/ordered/advised blood patches, so I haven't acquainted myself with their risks.

If I had a headache from a CSF leak, I would get clarity from the surgeon as to the risks arising from the blood patch versus the risks of complications, or failure to close, from not getting it, and if/when there might be a decision point to throw in the towel and get the procedure. Headaches from CSF leaks are disabling.

BTW, there are even risks (grave ones!) from bed-rest: A former patient of mine was deathly afraid of getting surgery to correct, among other things, a critically narrow spinal canal in her neck, itself secondary to a condition causing her disabling pain. Her pain became so exquisitely sensitive to activity and even movement, that she lay in bed immobile for days. This dense immobility lead to the development of blood clots in her legs (DVT or deep venous thrombosis), which broke off and entered circulation going to her lungs (pulmonary embolism), very nearly killing her. She decided to go for the surgery after all, but had to wait months for the clots to clear up on blood thinners.

--Lunar Apprentice
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Local Recorders

[personal profile] stcathalexandria 2022-11-08 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
One more thing -

I just learned that there are places in the UK who have local recorders of history at the village/parish level. People in each place are free to do it as they wish, capturing the present moment. It sounds so lovely!

I've been thinking of all that has occurred and feel like now with the election it could be the time to gather some our recollections from our local experiences, before they are lost to time. (Obviously keep our identity to our level of comfort.)

Looking to see if there is interest in submissions, and if there is enough for 60 pages or more, I'd be willing to put them together into a book we could have for ourselves.

Copied and pasted the local recorder info below in case you are interested.

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Local Recorders Scheme
The Suffolk Local History Council administers a Local Recorders Scheme throughout Suffolk. We maintain a network of people in the county to ensure the survival of valuable material for future local historians by:

Seeing that the present is adequately recorded at local level, and
Being on the look-out for items of historical interest which might be overlooked or lost for ever.

To do this Recorders are asked to note significant happenings in their area, especially the changes going on around them, and also to be on the look-out for older records and to record reminiscences of their area in the past.

Recorders are asked to send in a short report at the end of each calendar year, giving an account of activities in their community and the changes that have taken place. The reports are kept with the parish records in the nearest branch of the Suffolk Record Offices. When Recorders resign, the material they have collected is deposited for safe keeping with the Record Office in the name of the Suffolk Local History Council.

The SLHC provides new Recorders with a Recorders Pack containing guide-lines on various aspects of the job, and are encouraged to become members of the SLHC. Recorders also receive two Newsletters a year, and have the opportunity of attending an annual Recorders Day in April. The Honorary Recorders’ Secretary can be contacted by email (recorders@slhc.org.uk) and would be happy to hear from anyone requesting further information, or interested in becoming a Recorder or Assistant Recorder where a vacancy exists.

https://slhc.org.uk/recorders/

(Anonymous) 2022-11-08 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
IM Doc
November 8, 2022 at 5:44 pm
I believe your points are very well taken.

When we are talking about the USA, our entire data collection system is just a total mess. I am not sure it can be ever reliably used for anything about COVID.

For example, much has been made in the past few months about USA having some of the highest mortality rates there are in the world from COVID. That is true….but is that truly a COVID issue or an adjacent problem? The vast majority of my own patients who have had a very negative outcome have been folks who have been overweight, out of control diabetics, gravely ill in some other way, or immunocompromised. The first two by far and away the problems. Is COVID killing a higher percentage of Americans because of how we have handled it specifically, or is it killing more Americans because there are 10 fast food joints at every intersection? Or is it multifactorial in ways we have not even imagined?

The issue is this is very very difficult to tease out. As you say, there is a universe of confounding variables and issues.

And the death rate is just one of the issues.

But I was trained to see what is going on before my eyes, to process it with whatever data I had available and to immediately begin working with my patients on what I am seeing. This is ESPECIALLY SO in an emergency when little is known. Unfortunately, our federal health officials have done everything possible to squelch this approach. As anyone who has been reading my comments for the past 3 years can tell you – I have repeatedly stated – LOSE WEIGHT, EAT LESS SUGAR, GET THE A1C DOWN, EXERCISE, GET OUT IN THE SUN, HUG YOUR KIDS. For it is people who do those things who really seem to have better COVID outcomes before my very own eyes. And I have doubled down on this with my own cohort. And have had many many people listen and get much healthier.

Unfortunately, these things have not ever been a priority of our federal health officials – and for that I am profoundly disappointed.

And again, this is just one example.

Do not even get me started, for example, on the definition of “vaccinated” or “unvaccinated”. Talk about confounding and misdirection

Layoffs Just This Month

(Anonymous) 2022-11-08 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
How many of these employers had vax mandates?

Layoffs This Month (% of Workers):

1. Twitter: 50%

2. Cameo: 25%

3. Robinhood: 23%

4. Intel: 20%

5. Snapchat: 20%

6. Coinbase: 18%

7. Opendoor: 18%

8. Stripe: 14%

9. Lyft: 13%

10. Shopify: 10%

11. Meta: “Thousands”

12. Apple: Hiring Freeze

13. Amazon: Hiring Freeze

Re: Questioning "The Science"

(Anonymous) 2022-11-09 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
Twust teh Science.

Re: Voted against Covidianism

(Anonymous) 2022-11-09 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
I was so frustrated with the options on my town council ballot I wrote in "A yellow dog that opposed mandates."

Times have changed so that I don't even know if they'll get it but :shrug:

Belated response to MARK...

(Anonymous) 2022-11-09 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
Mark, it's me, Erika. i've been ruminating on all you said and i felt like we moved on from you, or you kinda' facilitated that, and i'm not gonna let you go just yet:

i wasn't being defensive about my emotionalism, i just didn't want to be the ...what's the word?... the designated "Emotional One." designated. transactional analysis worked for me most when i was confused and overtaken by emotions, and one of the things i remembered was that i was the designated train wreck. that was my role, my shtick.

so i didn't want that to me MY area, and implied in that is that all others are the RATIONAL or yes---blocked or disconnected people. rational. ha!

and while we're re-evaluating our assumptions, beliefs, and habits, i'm saying we're ALL a little bit country and we're ALL a little bit rock n' roll, ya dig?

from there, i - we all- see how EMOTIONAL you actually are-- full of LOVE and connection you are. maybe it wanted to be leaky messy frizzy, but we're all products of this society at this time. we're all cheated by the unfettered soul myth or fantasy.

someone insinuated that you'd re-channeled re-directed all that emotion into other areas. yes! exactly.

and as far as men being repressed or whatever you said, i'm confused and will seem unclear here because i thought that about men too, along with a ton of other things, that turned out to be wrong. especially now in the era of Sheridan's and Violet Cabra's "Devouring Mother."

you're not ALLOWED your deepest romantic (in all ways) expressions. so y'all tend to tip really way and take a lot of things on the chin, but are comfortable doing the sweetest things on the low, while us women (and men who act like us) are publicly yelling about how GREAT and GOOD and LOVING we are. (liberals now)

when you tilt your head a certain way, you see just how DEEP and profoundly expansive men's love can be. i'm not gonna do the habitual "balancing out" by trashing men after that statement. notice it's expected, though. no free compliments to men. they might start feeling themselves.

good!

anyhow, that's what i see of men and of YOU here. i don't have to KNOW you any further.

that said:

i HEAR you that YOU FEEL DISCONNECTED EMOTIONALLY.

good. that's something you can mess with just like Murmuration is, in order to get over that feeling.

and like St. Catherine Alexandria, you're opening yourself up to new possibilities for expression or reactions within YOURSELF, and i find this all exciting and inevitable.

i hope i'm making sense. i've been "writing" a response for a couple of days. like with St. Catherine Alexandria, i have nothing to "tell" you, only PROMPT YOU.

i'm saying you come from sensitives (your ma) and ARE one. you love the birds you can scale the tedious data and bring it to us who don't understand or find it all so tedious.

now that the world as it was is ending, you can push into new ways of no longer being disconnected now that you notice it and find it uncomfortable. i stammer because i'm still re-arranging my old assumptions about myself in this world. they sneak up on me, you know?

but the world is different now, and in the upside downness of everything, i'm the rational one compared to these emotional freakouts of the so-called rational normals.

i'm not really saying anything here. i'm stammering in type. but i don't want you to defend yourself or shake off this conversation. i wanna pick up on you feeling disconnected emotionally because you are important here to all this and men always take it on the chin. no more!

so cut yourself slack for being emotionally disconnected. even as "emotional" as i seem, it's self-indulgent because IT'S HERE. this is all performance even as it's real.

it fits with what you also said about trying to have an eco meet up that devolved into wanting to talk about more IDEAS and how to get them out there.

that's like WRITING and talking about WRITING for me. where's the DOING???

so little DOING. that's why i wanna do a craft fair or some REASON to meet up instead of just blabbing about "what to DO?"

I was talking about this with James. same here in SF. we used to meet up locally and grow relationships.

we're all socially retarded... ANXIOUS. that's the bedrock of all THIS and WHY THIS: we're all anxious.

i'm almost done re-reading Mattias Desmet's book, and am now more confused than EVER. because i didn't realize how much the world had changed and so many were on anxiety meds. i had NO IDEA.

i remember going to costco awhile back and the woman at the register suddenly looked like she'd been punctured and the air had been let out. i gasped and asked, "ARE YOU OKAY???"

she smiled through half lidded eyes and said, "my meds just kicked in."

how can anyone NOT be emotionally detached in this world? you've done amazingly well to have stayed as connected as you HAVE. see what i mean about coming out ahead of where you thought you were?

i've no answers. i'm new here, too.

i just see things a little differently than most people and hope that there's something you can use in this to cut yourself some slack as you do struggle to find creative ways to be more emotionally connected.

see, you might be surprised to find that you're waaaay more able to be connected than most of these folks walking the earth right now because you're also alive in your writings here.

maybe this is all mashed potato nothing but i just didn't want you to be blown off. you men tend to blow your own needs off. i've said before that men now remind me of timid women in the '70s before all those feminist consciousness raising groups. back when feminism was about MEN being emancipated from the shtick, too.

you all came out short in all this. so i just didn't want you to excuse yourself so fast after all you've given here.

thank you for YOUR service!

xxxxx

erika
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Re: International Travel Ban

[personal profile] tritumi 2022-11-09 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, but not for non citizens or those without legal standing.

Masks

(Anonymous) 2022-11-09 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
Will the mask people - see Naked Capitalism, or my sister - ever accept that masks don't work?

These people still cling to the belief that if only everyone wore a mask everything would be fine. Is there some sort of magic effect of the masks that creates a hold over certain people to believe that masks will solve all the worlds problems?

Re: International Travel Ban

(Anonymous) 2022-11-09 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
Can a U.S. citizen (Un-V) who is a dual Canadian citizen enter the US after a period of quarantine? Or proof of no-C?

Re: Masks

(Anonymous) 2022-11-09 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
This one to me is really the mark of a true believer. You can post so many resources at this stage which highlight that they are not effective.

I usually try to caveat, maybe in a perfect world where everyone is given N95s, was properly fitted, and changed them as needed. But nope, they just ignore any studies, our own outcomes, and repeat the lines "masks reduce spread".

Was just suspended from a subreddit today for trying to explain and was told to stop spreading misinformation...many comments said that in fact so lots of time to go until people let go of this one if ever.

Today I was walking outside on a nice trail in a creek near my home, a women walked by wearing a mask...it's so confusing.

Re: Layoffs Just This Month

(Anonymous) 2022-11-09 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
I work in IT. It's a bloodbath at the moment. I'd say it's got everything to do with the increase in interest rates and the drying up of speculative capital. How much of the IT industry was pure speculation? We may be about to find out.
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Re: Voted against Covidianism

[personal profile] p_coyle 2022-11-09 03:43 am (UTC)(link)
pray first and foremost for accountability, this is how healing begins.

sanity will perhaps come much later.

justice, only if we're lucky.

That gives me ideas

(Anonymous) 2022-11-09 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
I’ve been receiving a daily Rosicrucian newsletter from AMORC. Perhaps I would do well to join up and become active in the organization; I live within an hour’s drive from the headquarters in San Jose CA, which I’ve visited and found impressive. (Never mind that that’s where the odious Silicon Valley sprawls.)

For some years I participated in the activities of a group of neo-Hellenic pagans. But that movement is too fragmented and lacks the necessary clout to help with exemptions from despotic bureaucratic policies. Also, to my profound disappointment, the membership have all converted to Branch Covidianism.

WORDLE

(Anonymous) 2022-11-09 04:19 am (UTC)(link)
It’s Election Day in the USA and today’s WORDLE is “Spell”. It’s an interesting coincidence at the least. Or maybe a telling synchronicity? When the Roe v. Wade decision was leaked, the word was “fetus”, so there have been some strange coincidences before. Anyway, I voted against all the jab-istas.

Re: MSN for today

(Anonymous) 2022-11-09 04:22 am (UTC)(link)
I gather that the stroke and myocarditis-inducing effects of fizzy drinks, gardening and climate change can be prevented or even reversed by regularly performing the following exercise: clap your hands excitedly while chanting with conviction, “I do believe in vaccines, I do, I do, I do!”
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Re: Another IM Doc post

[personal profile] temporaryreality 2022-11-09 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the heads up! I've not kept up over there for some months and ought to add this and a few that came through recently to my archive.
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Re: mundane question for at-home medical care

[personal profile] open_space 2022-11-09 05:50 am (UTC)(link)

Mine is nothing fancy, I got some "L-shaped things" and the cheapest wood I found, had it cut there at the shop and put some shelf's on the kitchen. I added a flat piece of wood, one inch wide, on it's side, towards the back of each shelf to act as a step so that I can put stuff on top and the jars in front won't cover them. I have one with two steps where I keep the small jars. I dry herbs upside down from a string, also on the kitchen, on another thing I screwed to the wall.

Fair warning, my organization methods always look like a mess to people. How could it not if I am using the things? I don't have much either: I have one unopened set of all twelve cell salts, more of the ones I use often and just a few jars with some herbs I use for tincturing.

Re: International Travel Ban

(Anonymous) 2022-11-09 06:28 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh! I’m American and that appalls me. I’m disgusted with my government. As Moon Unit Zappa said, gag me with a spoon.

Re: November Eclipse and Blood Moon

(Anonymous) 2022-11-09 06:41 am (UTC)(link)
Sounds quite plausible to me, given what I’ve learned about the election’s mundane horoscope. It seems the best we can hope for this time around is to hold in check the worst features of the agenda of the Party of Chaos (thank you Mr. Kunstler) and maybe advance a little in the judicial arena, as has been happening here and there. I can be content with that, for the time being.

In ‘24 we need to win decisively and incontestably. Otherwise I seriously think we could be looking at a one party state featuring Stalinism 2.0, complete with holodomor. I don’t think we want that.

Re: Layoffs Just This Month

(Anonymous) 2022-11-09 08:16 am (UTC)(link)
Not sure that's related to the vaccines in any way...

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