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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2025-04-27 10:15 pm

Magic Monday

Book of HaatanMidnight is upon us and so it's time to launch a new Magic Monday. Ask me anything about occultism, and with certain exceptions noted below, any question received by midnight Monday Eastern time will get an answer. Please note:  Any question or comment received after that point will not get an answer, and in fact will just be deleted.  If you're in a hurry, or suspect you may be the 341,928th person to ask a question, please check out the very rough version 1.3 of The Magic Monday FAQ here

Also:
 I will not be putting through or answering any more questions about practicing magic around children. I've answered those in simple declarative sentences in the FAQ. If you read the FAQ and don't think your question has been answered, read it again. If that doesn't help, consider remedial reading classes; yes, it really is as simple and straightforward as the FAQ says.  And further:  I've decided that questions about getting goodies from spirits are also permanently off topic here. The point of occultism is to develop your own capacities, not to try to bully or wheedle other beings into doing things for you. I've discussed this in a post on my blog.

The
 image? I field a lot of questions about my books these days, so I've decided to do little capsule summaries of them here, one per week.  This is my seventy-fifth published book, the sequel to The Witch of Criswell and thus the second Ariel Moravec occult mystery.  Once again, it's eighteen-year-old Ariel and her adept grandfather on the case, investigating the theft of a rare magical book and a trail of clues that might lead to a pirate treasure hidden somewhere in the odd old East Coast port town of Adocentyn. Ariel and Dr. Bernard Moravec aren't the only ones on the trail, though, and the others will stop at nothing to get there first...

In case you can't tell, yes, I'm having enormous fun with these. You can get a copy here if you're in the United States and here elsewhere. 

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***This Magic Monday is now closed, and no more comments will be put through. See you next week!***

Great series.

(Anonymous) 2025-04-28 04:05 am (UTC)(link)
I really like all three so far. You know, writers get rich by keeping a series going for decades. Take counsel from your greed and our pleasure pretty please with sugar on top?

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I have some items in my possession that I’ve realized carry a negative energy for my present circumstances. I was considering selling them, but I understand that if I really want to remove the energy and qualities these items represent from my life, there’s natural magic tricks that are stronger. I have tried burying the items in my front yard as a means to release the energy from my life. I appreciate your advice on if that was an appropriate method.

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Etheric / astral disturbances

(Anonymous) 2025-04-28 04:53 am (UTC)(link)
Dear JMG, what is your take on the current astral/etheric disturbance, as in, do you think it's landed fully on the physical plane. I am certainly noticing some odd behaviour in people, almost as if they are disconnected from reality, and a lot more of the blue screen of death stare in response to anything other than rote or routine activities. I feel myself a vague anxiety or foreboding, although, as I've ramped up practices (SoP) since the beginning of the year, it seems to be largely occuring around me, as if I'm in an odd sort of bubble that's harder to penetrate. Negativity doesn't seem to land as easily on me.

But that's just my take. I'd be interested in knowing yours, and other readers?

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A query on particular accents/elocution

(Anonymous) 2025-04-28 05:02 am (UTC)(link)
Hi JMG,

My to-the-point question: Is there a history of elocution as a form of magical training/practice?

It’s dawned on me, after having watched a lot of British television shows via PBS in my youth, then eventually VHS tapes, DVDs, and now video on demand, that I often feel soothed (disarmed/pacified?) when listening to particular British accents, and certain British actors and actresses in particular.

I have listened to British audio recordings of royal biographies, many spy thrillers, various short stories and novels, as well as a Trollope novel that I have no interest in, and still I am soothed when I’m listening. I’m guessing I’d come under the same effect with an autopsy report and a crochet book.

This, plus my amusement that the British Royal Family seem to have an unusually large fanbase in countries that gained independence from their Empire, has led me to grossly speculate that the Received Pronunciation accent/elocution of the British Empire’s ruling class was a deliberate and conscious magical practice.

I have a similar feeling/attitude with the RP-related Transatlantic Accent.

I often wonder if a politician whose views I disagree with would get more persuasive traction with me if he or she spoke like FDR or Orson Welles.

Thoughts? :-)

-Eugene

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Curses and priests

(Anonymous) 2025-04-28 05:17 am (UTC)(link)
This is more of a data point than anything else, though if y'all have ideas . . .

I have a devout Catholic friend who has been enough of a public figure to attract some hostile attention in politics and arts. My friend has been incrediably ill for some years now (definitely not CoVax: very much finds that using products developed or tested with fetal stem cells is being complicit in murder). Today my friend found out another close friend and professional associate had been badly burned in a housefire a few days ago. A couple others from the group have also had events . . . "once is bad luck, twice is coincidence, thrice is enemy action."

Now, a couple months ago my friend and my friend's spouse were woken on a clear, stary night by their housecats throwing a hissy-fit (five housecats, large hissy) at their sliding glass door, while their surveillence camera insisted there was something there. Then the cats ran and hid. There was nothing visible to the human eye, but the surveillence camera footage shows what appears to be a driving blizzard. Again, clear starlit night to the eye. The storm vanished at the pre-dawn twilight.

I urged them to get their house blessed by their priest at that time, and they said their priests did not believe in doing that sort of thing as it encourages superstition.

Today my friend connected the dots and asked if I thought someone might have cursed this group of associates. I said that I was certain that some of their adversaries had tried. Scratch half a dozen politically active arts folks and you'll find at least one who will attempt such folly, after all.

St. Patrick's Lorica, prayed by a larger group of friends on the hour, helps quite a lot, and we spread the hours among us. When we started it was to help the child of these friends deal with a hostile professor, and the child became effectively invisible to the professor at that point. The intent was that the child know that the child had support. The result was surprising and completely unexpected. I can highly recommend this discipline and prayer. We chose this prayer because our types of Christians are very different, and some find prayers addressing saints or angels to be idolatrous. St. Patrick's Lorica met the essential religious requirements for all participants while not violating anyone's principles.

However, what is up with Catholic priests refusing to do house blessings? Is this not a contender for most absurd thing of the year? They wouldn't even do blessed chalk! A priest who is not prepared to do house blessings or give his parishoners the tools for it, seems to me (not a Catholic) to be failing in his trust.

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Dear Mr Greer,

I'm going on a trip of a few weeks and I was wondering if there was a simple working I could do to protect my home against theft, break-ins and other calamities.

Thanks in advance!

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SOP with planets?

(Anonymous) 2025-04-28 08:59 am (UTC)(link)
Would the Sphere of Protection work, adapted to the seven planetary spirits?
"teal malodorous oroborous"

(Anonymous) 2025-04-28 09:08 am (UTC)(link)
Hello JMG,

Someone in my housing block (close to me) committed suicide in his house. It is someone I don't know we'll. I feel that it might have left bad energy. It is now some weeks ago. What can I do to cleanse the environment? My house and maybe other surrounding. I am not sure I can get into his house.

Greetings

(Anonymous) 2025-04-28 09:51 am (UTC)(link)
Dear JMG and commenters,
Have a good start to the week, everyone!

Do you think we will simply leave this planet to head to another planet or another spiritual plane together, as if we were a swarm of souls?

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The Well and the Ancestors

(Anonymous) 2025-04-28 10:54 am (UTC)(link)
JMG Thanks for all you do. I have a question about symbolism, but first a pre-amble.
I am 60 this year a late convert to a magical view. The first magic book I read was " The Druid Magic Handbook" I am a practicing Folkish Odinist running a small hearth in Glastonbury,but I also follow many aspects of your type of Druidism. A particular focus for me is ancestor veneration.
I live in a beautiful part of England the Cotswolds. Locally in and around the surrounding villages and towns, it's still a high trust society and still mainly unspoiled.
I have been protecting the local area with enchantment rituals for 8 years or so, things like being against housing developments and keeping natural areas natural. recently thought I would go to the head springs of the local rivers and streams and drop into them talismanic Crystals to aid this purpose.
My main ritual site is in some woods overlooking an ancient lake, both my parents ashes were scattered here and also of other relatives and faithful pets. Across the valley is the local church the site of my Grandparents resting place.
I should have realised that the springs feeding this lake are the Bisley Wells. The wells were reconstructed in the 1860's and every year since they have held a procession to the well by the school and locals on ascension day. A fine looking traditional event of which i approve, loads of picture online, google "Bisley Gloucestershire dressing of the wells".
My world view is Zionism in all it's forms causes many of the world's ills .Looking at last years photos, the female priest wearing a rainbow sash/scarf thing well I'm not Christian so.. But the children make floral symbols and letters as they always have, the words ascension the letters AD and two Stars of Davids, as far as I am concerned Zionism's symbol. So the questions I have are 1. How is this Star symbol affecting the unaware people. It's obviously affecting me.
How can I transmute my perceived negative feeling that I feel are flowing into "my" ancestral lake. Should I just bless the Wells beforehand and afterwards? maybe on behalf of Aqua Solus or Nerthus or a counter symbol of some sort either something unobtrusive at the wells, or closer to the lake. Any thoughts?
Cealin.

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Do you think the epic poems of Homer would be good material for training the mind? Thanks

American Spirits: The Famous Fox Sisters

(Anonymous) 2025-04-28 01:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Of possible interest, a new book on the Fox sisters marketed to teenagers. Fairly solid tome though at 300 glossy pages, illustrated.

American Sisters: The Famous Fox Sisters and the Mysterious Fad that Haunted a Nation by Barb Rosenstock. Rosenstock is a multiple Caldecott winner and picture book writer, and this is her first nonfiction...

"In March 1848, strange "rap" sounds were heard at the Fox family's home in Hydesville, New York. The family's daughters, Kate and Maggie, discovered they could communicate with the spirit responsible, who claimed to be a murdered traveling peddler. This event sparked a media frenzy, and the sisters, guided by their older sister Leah, became famous spirit mediums, holding public exhibitions and advising celebrities. However, questions about their legitimacy arose, especially as the demand for spiritual communication grew during the Civil War, while media campaigns against the sisters also gained momentum."

Justin Patrick Moore

(Anonymous) 2025-04-28 02:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Super noob question here: your books seem to indicate that one does not vibrate the names of the archangels in the LBRP, only the divine Names. Is that correct? Thank you!

Very much enjoying the Ariel Moravec series and looking forward to the next installment, btw!

--Indigo Tangential Ostrich

(Anonymous) 2025-04-28 03:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Andrew Tate wrote a screed about using the energy provided by his haters: https://x.com/Cobratate/status/1878820585154732378

It sounds to me like deliberate use of somewhat grubby magic, is this the same thing you described President Trump doing? What kind of karma is he generating for himself here?

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Happy Monday, JMG,
I have a few questions.
1. What is the difference, if any, in the action of a jar with salt, pepper, and nails and a jar with vinegar?
2. I'm working through your book Learning Ritual Magic and noticing that the Middle Pillar exercise works much better for me than SOP, which I practiced previously. SOP felt kind of vague. MPE feels like a metal brush, and the space around me feels like an old rusty Griswold restored to its original black shiny glory. It feels great. I would appreciate your commentary on such a stark difference. Why is that so?
3. How to evict someone who lives rent-free inside my head? I see this person once a week at a social gathering of about 100 people. We used to be friends. Not anymore. Any affirmation that would be appropriate? I also know some natural magic. I am about to finish Learning Ritual Magic. Any advice?
Thank you for being here this Monday!

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Meeting dead people in dreams

(Anonymous) 2025-04-28 03:35 pm (UTC)(link)
My dad died a few months ago. A few weeks after his death, I met him in a dream: I suddenly was in his house, and saw him puttering around as usual. I ran towards him to greet him, really happy, and he was just as happy to meet me. When I tried talking to him, the connection broke and I woke up. During the whole time, I was aware both that I'm dreaming and that he was dead and it was his ghost I'm interacting with, although ghost is the wrong word, he was as solid as people can be in a dream.

A few days ago, I had a very similar occurence with a cat in a dream, again suddenly being in my late dad's currently empty house, and the cat being there etc. I'm not a cat person, nobody in the family had or has a cat, and I don't know this particular cat e.g. from the neighbourhood, but I 'knew' it had recently died and had come back to visit. (As to why it visited me and this house, my best guess is it noticed an open door somehwere, and being a cat...) Both occurences were towards morning, when I wasn't sleeping deeply anymore, but somewhere between sleeping and waking.

So once is just happenstance, and twice only coincidence, but I feel I should probably prepare for the possibility this is going to happen again.

1. Are there methods to develop such a skill actively and in a controlled way, including the ncessary security and boundaries, and how? (Pointers to books welcome, too)

2. Are there any drawbacks or dangers to actively developing the skill of 'meeting' dead people like this? Anything I should think about long and hard beforehand, besides the usual level of caution and divination?

3. And can you recommend any books to learn more about this phenomenon and the related skills in general? Talking to dead people or animals hasn't been that high on my radar so far...

Thank you!

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Christian Banishing Ritual

[personal profile] readoldthings 2025-04-28 04:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Hi JMG and Commentariat,

In a comment above the issue of Christian protective magic came up, including the unwillingness of many modern Catholic priests to even provide house blessings for parishioners in need of spiritual support. On my substack blog I've begun the process of publishing versions of traditional magical rituals using Christian, and particularly Roman Catholic, symbolism. If you don't mind, I'd like to share the link to the pentagram ritual, which some here may find helpful. The ritual itself, with both banishing and invoking forms, can be found here:

https://sacramentalmagic.substack.com/p/christian-ceremonial-magic-the-pentagram

This is a revised version of the ritual. An earlier post, with slightly sloppier Latin, has a detailed discussion of the structure of the pentagram ritual, which some might find helpful:

https://sacramentalmagic.substack.com/p/christian-ceremonial-magic-part-1

(I should probably note: Like most traditional pentagram rituals, this includes four angels, with Uriel at the northern quarter. Since many Catholics are under the impression that they aren't allowed to invoke Uriel anymore, I should probably take a moment to point out that this isn't correct. There is at least one manual with the church imprimatur which provides prayers for the seven highest angels, written by Antonio del Duca in the 16th century and recently translated into English by Father Robert Nixon. Even more to the point, however, Uriel is invoked by name in the Byzantine rite within the Roman Catholic Church. If you could legitimately invoke Uriel at, say, the Church of Saint John Chrysostum in Pittsburgh, you can invoke him in your own living room.)

Divination Aptitude

(Anonymous) 2025-04-28 04:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Hi JMG, I saw you talk about learning divination with some other people and I recall you advised that for someone learning tarot it often takes a couple years before they start making draws that they can interpret in any sensible way. I've been using tarot for a bit over a year now and I started consistently getting meaningful draws a few weeks in and now for the vast majority of my draws I can easily see what they're indicating about the query. Only around 1 in 20 I'd say are "duds" that lack a clear meaning. It's been a great tool to steer through some sticky situations. Would you say my learning process has been unusually fast? Thanks.

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If you have a character flaw or harmful habit that seems to be related to an afflicted planet in your nativity, what approach have you found most useful:

1) strengthening the afflicted planet

2) propitiating the afflicting planet if there is one (for instance a malefic aspecting the planet in question)

3) pretty much ignoring the problematic planets and just working with the strong/dignified planets in your chart

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[personal profile] anonymoose_canadian 2025-04-28 04:31 pm (UTC)(link)
a) I know you're fond of Dion Fortune's definition of magic as "The art and science of causing changes in consciousness in accordance with will". Do you happen to remember where you got that from?

b) Do you know any good places to look for how will is understood in occult philosophy? I'm looking into Arthur Schopenhauer, planning to mediate on the topic, and looking through the bibliography of the occult books I have; but I'd like to know if you can think of any other good resources on the topic.
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Ecosophia Prayer List

[personal profile] tunesmyth 2025-04-28 04:33 pm (UTC)(link)
At this link is the full list of all of the requests for prayer that have recently appeared at ecosophia.net and ecosophia.dreamwidth.org, as well as in the comments of the prayer list posts. Please feel free to add any or all of the requests to your own prayers.

If I missed anybody, or if you would like to add a prayer request for yourself or anyone who has given you consent (or for whom a relevant person holds power of consent) to the list, please feel free to leave a comment below and/or in the comments at the current prayer list post.

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This week I would like to bring special attention to the following prayer requests.


May Ron M’s friend Paul, who passed away on April 13, make his transition through the afterlife process with grace and peace.

May Corey Benton, whose throat tumor has grown around an artery and won't be treated surgically, and who is now able to be at home from the hospital, be healed of throat cancer. Healing work is also welcome. [Note: Healing Hands should be fine, but if offering energy work which could potentially conflict with another, please first leave a note in comments or write to randomactsofkarmasc to double check that it's safe]

May David Spangler (the esoteric teacher), who has been responding well to chemotherapy for his bladder cancer, be blessed, healed, and filled with positive energy such that he makes a full recovery.

May Giulia (Julia) in the Eastern suburbs of Cleveland Ohio be quickly healed of recurring seizures and paralysis of her left side and other neurological problems associated with a cyst on the right side of her brain and with surgery and drugs to treat it, if providence would have it, and if not, may her soul move on from this world and find peace with a minimum of further suffering for her and her family and friends.

May JRuss's friend David Carruthers quickly find a job of any kind at all that allows him to avoid homelessness, first and foremost; preferably a full time job that makes at least 16 dollars an hour.

May Princess Cutekitten, who is sick of being sick, be healed of her ailments.

May Pierre in Minnesota be filled with the health, vitality, and fertility he needs to father a healthy baby with his wife.

May Viktoria have a safe and healthy pregnancy, and may the baby be born safe, healthy and blessed. May Marko have the strength, wisdom and balance to face the challenges set before him. (picture)

May Liz and her baby be blessed and healthy during pregnancy, and may her husband Jay (sdi) have the grace and good humor to support his family even through times of stress and ill health.

May 1 Wanderer's partner Cathy, who has bravely fought against cancer to the stage of remission, now be relieved of the unpleasant and painful side-effects from the follow-up hormonal treatment, together with the stress that this imposes on both parties, and may she quickly be able to resume a normal life.

May Jennifer’s newborn daughter Eleanor be blessed with optimal growth and development; may her tongue tie revision surgery on Wednesday March 12th have been smooth and successful, and be followed by a full recovery.

May Mike Greco, who had a court date on the 14th of March, enjoy a prompt, just, and equitable settlement of the case.

May Cliff's friend Jessica be blessed and soothed; may she discover the path out of her postpartum depression, and be supported in any of her efforts to progress along it; may the love between her and her child grow ever more profound, and may each day take her closer to an outlook of glad participation in the world, that she may deeply enjoy parenthood.

May Other Dave's father Michael Orwig, who passed away on 2/24, make his transition to his soul's next destination with comfort and grace; may his wife Allyn and the rest of his family be blessed and supported in this difficult time.

May Peter Evans in California, whose colon cancer has been responding well to treatment, be completely healed with ease, and make a rapid and total recovery.

May Debra Roberts, who has just been diagnosed with Stage 4 lung cancer, be blessed and healed to the extent that providence allows. Healing work is also welcome.

May Jack H's father John, whose aortic dissection is considered inoperable and likely fatal by his current doctors, be healed, and make a physical recovery to the full extent that providence allows, and be able to enjoy more time together with his loved ones.

May Goats and Roses' son A, who had a serious concussion weeks ago and is still suffering from the effects, regain normal healthy brain function, and rebuild his physical strength back to normal, and regain his zest for life. And may Goats and Roses be granted strength and effectiveness in finding solutions to the medical and caregiving matters that need to be addressed, and the grief and strain of the situation.

May Kevin’s sister Cynthia be cured of the hallucinations and delusions that have afflicted her, and freed from emotional distress. May she be safely healed of the physical condition that has provoked her emotions; and may she be healed of the spiritual condition that brings her to be so unsettled by it. May she come to feel calm and secure in her physical body, regardless of its level of health.

May Linda from the Quest Bookshop of the Theosophical Society, who has developed a turbo cancer, be blessed and have a speedy and full recovery from cancer.

May Frank R. Hartman, who lost his house in the Altadena fire, and all who have been affected by the larger conflagration be blessed and healed.

May Open Space's friend's mother
Judith
be blessed and healed for a complete recovery from cancer.

May Peter Van Erp's friend Kate Bowden's husband Russ Hobson and his family be enveloped with love as he follows his path forward with the glioblastoma (brain cancer) which has afflicted him.

May Scotlyn's friend Fiona, who has been in hospital since early October with what is a diagnosis of ovarian cancer, be blessed and healed, and encouraged in ways that help her to maintain a positive mental and spiritual outlook.

May Jennifer and Josiah and their daughters Joanna and Eleanor be protected from all harmful and malicious influences, and may any connection to malign entities or hostile thought forms or projections be broken and their influence banished.



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Guidelines for how long prayer requests stay on the list, how to word requests, how to be added to the weekly email list, how to improve the chances of your prayer being answered, and several other common questions and issues, are to be found at the Ecosophia Prayer List FAQ.

If there are any among you who might wish to join me in a bit of astrological timing, I pray each week for the health of all those with health problems on the list on the astrological hour of the Sun on Sundays, bearing in mind the Sun's rulerships of heart, brain, and vital energies. If this appeals to you, I invite you to join me.
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Modern Order of Essenes Healing Hands

[personal profile] kylec 2025-04-28 04:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm offering healing hands this week to anyone who would like to receive them. This is a free spiritual healing modality conducted at a distance. All you need to do is leave your name and your request in a reply, or PM me. Thanks for helping me practice.
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[personal profile] jenniferkobernik 2025-04-28 06:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I would like to receive healing hands this week, please.

Unfortunately my postpartum bleeding is continuing for an abnormally long time, and I am going in for an ultrasound. Depending on what it shows, they say I might need a D&C, which I would really like to avoid!

Thank you!

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Blessing Spheres

[personal profile] cs2 2025-04-28 05:00 pm (UTC)(link)
When I do my daily blessings I imagine something similar to the Circulation of Light around the person (all with permission). However, for a family who has recently lost a pet or loved one, I'm wondering whether I should imagine separate spheres around the newly departed. I don't want my lumping them together to result in them struggling to move on. My instinct has been to do separate spheres.

Is there anything in Western esotericism about this or do you have any advice? Thanks.

Herbal amulet

(Anonymous) 2025-04-28 05:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I’ve been working my way through your Natural Magic book (thank you). I work a job where I’m exposed to grubby energies on a daily basis. In addition to a daily banishing, I was thinking carrying an amulet would be a good idea to keep the unsavory stuff from sticking. I follow Druidry and have a lot of dried vervain sitting around. Would putting some in a red pouch do the job? Or should I opt for St John’s wort (or mix of the two)? Ideally something small that I can carry in my pocket.

Thank you for helping us rookies out every week. You are always so patient and kind. If you’ll have a blessing - may you be blessed in the light of the divine

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For those who want to support Britain's astral pyramid, Kimberly Steele is currently singing the former British national anthem "God Save the Queen" every day, and you are welcome to join her:

https://kimberlysteele.dreamwidth.org/144376.html

For those who want to instead support America's astral pyramid, you can sing "My Country, 'Tis of Thee" every day. "My Country, 'Tis of Thee" has the same melody as "God Save the Queen" and was one of many de facto American national anthems back before the United States adopted their current official national anthem in 1931.

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