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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2025-02-25 10:46 am

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 186

some successWe are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; public health authorities government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.


5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

6. Please don't just post bare links without explanation. A sentence or two telling readers what's on the other side of the link is a reasonable courtesy, and if you don't include it, your attempted post will be deleted.

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.


With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

(Anonymous) 2025-03-03 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
ROBERT F. KENNEDY, JR.: Measles outbreak is call to action for all of us
MMR vaccine is crucial to avoiding potentially deadly disease

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/robert-f-kennedy-jr-measles-outbreak-call-action-all-us

well..
im not sure what to make of this...
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[personal profile] scotlyn 2025-03-03 06:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Celia Farber recommends reading the piece itself (written by RFK Jr), and not letting oneself be misled by the headlines and sub-headlines which were NOT written by him, but used by FOX to FRAME what was written by him.

https://celiafarber.substack.com/p/rfk-jr-responds-to-murdoch-media
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[personal profile] the_arcane_archivist 2025-03-03 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I hate it when things are so unclear. Because I think is on PURPOSE, Media is adept at doing this
There was a .gif file with a ballerina that was rotating, some people saw it rotating to the left some to the right. Same there was a dress that some people saw blue and some people saw golden. I think they are able to write this kind of things also GPT type things. They mastered the art of bullshirt, they can write a bulshirt that to some seem blue to other seem golden.



Edited 2025-03-03 21:28 (UTC)
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[personal profile] scotlyn 2025-03-04 10:19 am (UTC)(link)
Yes... as Celia says "hopelessness-ium" is as much of a drug as "hopium"...

IMHO, Both distract us from "WhatIorWhatWeCanDo-ium"... ;)
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[personal profile] the_arcane_archivist 2025-03-03 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)

im not sure what to make of this...

I wanted to make the same post with the same wording but from another URL:
https://www.breitbart.com/health/2025/03/03/rfk-jr-supports-measles-vaccine-as-texas-outbreak-builds/


strange that it appears to be the usual right venues, also the one that pedals the Wuhan hypothesis Epoch times

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I don't think that says what you think is says :-)

[personal profile] wolf_wobo 2025-03-03 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
"im not sure what to make of this...

Well, i sounds like standard boilerplate public health talk circa 2018.

There is no mention of mRNA.

There is discussion of federal assistance, for example: "In response to this outbreak, I have directed the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Administration for Strategic Preparedness and Response (ASPR) to work closely with the Texas health authorities to provide comprehensive support. HHS’ efforts include offering technical assistance, laboratory support, vaccines, and therapeutic medications as needed. The CDC is in continuous communication with Texas health officials, ensuring a coordinated and effective response to contain the outbreak."

Eat well and get your vitamins, which WAS NOT a controversial position 10 years ago, for example: "Tens of thousands died with, or of, measles annually in 19th Century America. By 1960 -- before the vaccine’s introduction -- improvements in sanitation and nutrition had eliminated 98% of measles deaths. Good nutrition remains a best defense against most chronic and infectious illnesses. Vitamins A, C, and D, and foods rich in vitamins B12, C, and E should be part of a balanced diet."

I'm sorry but after reading the statement at the link you provided i can't find ANYTHING that would say: "Measles outbreak is call to action for all of us MMR vaccine is crucial to avoiding potentially deadly disease" EXCEPT in the SUB-title which says "MMR vaccine is crucial to avoiding potentially deadly disease" and after all these years everybody SHOULD know that Titles and Sub-Titles are writen by editors to get clicks since MOST people DON'T actually read the articles.

Not meant to be a shoot down but a good teaching point to ACTUALLY READ the article before making a call.

~Wolf

(Anonymous) 2025-03-04 02:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I think Jenna McCarthy's take on it is most apt. You can read that here (but get past the headline:
https://jennasside.rocks/p/rfk-jr-completely-flip-flops-on-vaccines

In a nutshell, she explains point by point, and with some humor. It's a supportive article.

# # # 

As for RFK actually undertaking substantive reform at HHS, I was quite heartened to see this:

Kennedy Sizes Up FDA Conflicts of Interest
Closing the revolving regulatory door on Big Pharma “family” user fees
Mar 04, 2025
By John Klar, Special to The Kennedy Beacon
https://thekennedybeacon.substack.com/p/kennedy-sizes-up-fda-conflicts-of

# #   #

My general take on RFK: He's got to get the lieutenants of the HHS bureaucracy and many others behind him— or at least not sinking rabid teeth into his butt every two minutes. So far so good. The time to judge his tenure is not just yet. Also, anything and everything the MSM says should be questioned, questioned, and questioned again. The MSM reporters and their editors have proven themselves to be lying and conniving shills time and again. They still are.

(Anonymous) 2025-03-03 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
here is what dr tenpenny says about measles, chickenpox, addressing the recent outbreak:

Dr Sherri Tenpenny
[profile] busydrt
We've got to stop calling chicken pox and measles diseases, because they're not. They're infections, and infections come and go in a week to 10 days, and leave behind a lifetime of immunity. A disease is something that comes and stays, and frequently can't be cured. So when you vaccinate to avoid an infection, what you potentially are doing is causing a disease.

https://x.com/BusyDrT/status/1895906216997765607#m

(Anonymous) 2025-03-03 07:03 pm (UTC)(link)
We need to also stop calling chickens diseases :)
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[personal profile] the_arcane_archivist 2025-03-04 08:20 am (UTC)(link)
I don't like ZH and from time to time I unblock it just to se what they post.
Now they posted and interesting post somehow ontopic with this open posts:
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/cancer-cells-cooperate-survive-study-finds

Someone in the comments mentions this effect known for almost 100 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warburg_effect_(oncology)

In oncology, the Warburg effect (/ˈvɑːrbʊərɡ/) is the observation that most cancers use aerobic glycolysis and lactic acid fermentation for energy generation rather than the mechanisms used by non-cancerous cells

Seems to me that there is something alien about this cell's behaviour...
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[personal profile] the_arcane_archivist 2025-03-04 08:23 am (UTC)(link)
Someone even mentioned Vitamin I, someone need to find a natural equivalent to this ASAP.
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[personal profile] the_arcane_archivist 2025-03-04 08:30 am (UTC)(link)
this mRNA thing is heavily linked to cancer IMHO


https://www.globalresearch.ca/covid-mrna-vaccine-injury-turbo-cancer-4-months-old-canadian-baby/5876297

I also remember seeing articles that link spike and sugar dynamics in the body...


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