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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2025-02-25 10:46 am

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 186

some successWe are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; public health authorities government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.


5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

6. Please don't just post bare links without explanation. A sentence or two telling readers what's on the other side of the link is a reasonable courtesy, and if you don't include it, your attempted post will be deleted.

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.


With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

God Mode

(Anonymous) 2025-02-25 07:15 pm (UTC)(link)
If this is true, things could get wild:

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news-selections/national-news/god-mode-access-achieved-to-all-usg-agency-computers

(Anonymous) 2025-02-25 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
'CDC defies RFK Jr and Trump in key vaccine maneuver
The CDC appeared to defy President Donald Trump by taking part in a vaccine meeting with the World Health Organization this week.

Under executive orders, the CDC was banned from communicating from WHO as the US started its withdrawal from the global health agency.

Trump cited the UN agency's failings during Covid and close ties to China as reasons for his government's exit.

However, a spokesperson for the CDC told DailyMail.com members from the organization 'will be actively participating virtually at the WHO vaccine consultation meeting for the recommendation of viruses for 2025-26 Northern Hemisphere Vaccine this week'.

The weeklong meeting began on Monday, with leaders from both the CDC and FDA in attendance.

Prior to the meeting, the two government agencies would have had to seek an exemption from the Trump administration.

Twice annually, WHO organizes consultations with an advisory group of experts to analyze global flu data, with recommendations issued on the composition of vaccines for the next flu season.

These recommendations are used by vaccine regulatory agencies and pharmaceutical companies to develop, produce and license flu vaccines over the course of several months.'


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14434259/CDC-defies-RFK-Jr-Trump-key-vaccine-maneuver.html

(Anonymous) 2025-02-25 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Following on from the fascinating discussion on p7 of last week's blog, I have a question re the need for boosters/antibody levels.

Am unjabbed, but isn't there a difference between getting a booster if uninfected with the disease jabbed against, and getting a booster +after+ being infected? It seems the memory B and T cells would only be able to produce antibodies in the presence of an already known antigen. Of course, in the case of the coof, the chances of not having been infected must be minuscule, making the need for a booster moot. And even if it's "updated" with a more recently extinct strain, so what?
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Betwixt and Between

[personal profile] escorcher 2025-02-25 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Betwixt and Between

Eating bats is a very bad idea. Nearly as bad as poking sticks inside them and playing about with the result in labs. Pretty easy to see why stories dwelling on the dark side of these creatures developed and why they should be left alone and admired with a little distance!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14434117/doctors-mystery-illness-congo-people-die-symptoms.html

'Doctors sound alarm over mystery illness in Congo after 50 people die within hours of symptoms'

"According to the WHO's Africa office, the first outbreak started in the town of Boloko after three children reportedly ate a dead bat."

https://folklorethursday.com/folktales/bats-in-mythology-and-folklore-around-the-world/

"...at the edge of day and night they are seen as liminal beings and not part of the natural order. This liminality gives bats a supernatural air that further heightens mystery and distrust as they cross the borders between birds and mammals, day and night."

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[personal profile] charlieobert 2025-02-25 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
In the past three years, my distrust of allopathic medicine and its drugs has generalized.

Distrust of covid vaccines. More and more distrust of vaccines in general.

I'm seeing more stories about

- the dangers of ozempic,the weight loss drug.

- the dangers of anti-anxiety meds.

- the dangers of anti-depression meds.

- the dangers of blood pressure meds.

- the dangers of steroids, and statins.

- the dangers of ibuprofen, tylenol and related drugs.

...and so on.

In the past five years, since I had cancer in 2019, every drug I have been prescribed has had negative side effects on me. As far as I know those side effects faded after I quit taking them, but I have no way of being sure.

Here's a list of allopathic prescription meds I am confident are safe.

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That's it.

Trouble

[personal profile] boccaccio 2025-02-25 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
An example of a thread that shows a trend I see on X. Vaxx damage is being talked about openly, I suspect because more people are getting symptoms. The last round of jabs is several years behind most people, but the issues are stacking up.

Mary Talley Bowden MD
[profile] mdbreathe
(6:26 p.m. · 24 feb. 2025 ·3.8 million views)
I can always tell who has had the COVID shots when I measure antibody levels…. In the unvaccinated, levels are in the hundreds…. In the vaccinated, levels are 5000 to >25,000.

Brooke Miller M D
[profile] brookemillermd
In my experience the levels of anti spike are lower in the vaxxed patients without obvious PVS and > 10k -25k in PVS. The unvaxxed seem to have low levels of antinucleocapsid and no antispike. I get both antibody tests on all patients when investigating PVS or in unvaxxed at their request.

Mary Talley Bowden MD
[profile] mdbreathe
Agree, though I saw a 74 year old woman today whose levels were >25,000 and she had no obvious issues. She’s the exception rather than the rule though. Most people with high levels have symptoms. And I see the levels and symptoms go down with ivermectin.

Brooke Miller M D
[profile] brookemillermd
Agreed. Many other simple daily habits help tremendously. Carnivore or keto diet with fasting, Vit D and sunlight. Also have had great success treating neurological PVS with red/near infrared therapy, LDN and the biggest game changer for my patients has been hyperbaric oxygen.

LittleDeb
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We have done it all. My husband did a solid year of HBOT 3-5 days a week. No change, no improvement. Forced to get the shot to keep his job. Collapsed 1/2022.


NB In the same thread some people claim that they have high levels too despite not being vaxxed, some even post test results. I think that the virus can nestle in places where the immunesystem has trouble reaching and keeps creating similar issues as in the vaxxed. See for example this study from last week that shows the virus setting up camp in the mouth and teeth long term: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2025.02.17.638734v1

The Yale study we discussed last week also might indicate that a significant proportion of the population is spike injured. Spike was established in 33.6% of the vax damaged cases while in the healthy control group the percentage was 12.9%. In the healthy control group I bet the unvaxxed were overrepresented as compared with the total population while in the damaged group the vax percentage was of course 100%. For the total population this would get the amount of spike damaged people above or well above 15% (12.9% rounded up). This happens to fall in the same range as I calculated from bloodclot and infertility data (15-25%).

To make the situation even worse, in only a third of the vax injured could spike be found. That begs the question what is wrong with the other two thirds. The vax seems to cause other problems that impact people (perhaps unrepairable damage to nerves and heart etc)

We have a serious problem at hand. I’ll put it bluntly: By the time Trump and RFK have "fixed the food", a big chunk of the inhabitants of mRNA injected counties will be dead from Cancer/T-cell exhaustion/Bloodclots/Mitochondrial dysfunction or other spikeopathy varieties. The time for action is now!!
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[personal profile] jruss 2025-02-25 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Anyone else following reports of a new COVID outbreak in Wuhan China?

(Anonymous) 2025-02-26 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
I understand the sentiment, Charlie, and I've become much more skeptical myself. But my medical history is an interesting counter-argument. I would not even be alive today without a considerable number of allopathic drugs. Insulin, for 50+ years. Steroids to replace a fried adrenal cortex, and thyroid hormone for yet another autoimmune endocrine disorder. (I more or less manage my own endocrine system. ☹️)

Just as important are the blood pressure meds I've taken ever since I showed signs of bad diabetic kidney disease over 30 years ago. It was pretty much guaranteed that I'd be on dialysis within 2-3 years before those drugs existed. But they stopped the protein in my urine, and literally cured the nephropathy. I have normal kidney function, which still amazes me but the test results have been unchanged for decades now.

Quite possibly I'm the perfect patient, as well-- injured multiple times and then treated for a lifetime. I wonder if most or all of my maladies have their root cause in various vaccinations and other allopathic immune assaults. It's quite possible. I now avoid all newfangled drugs, question the doctor ruthlessly, and look for solo practitioners over corporate outfits. But those are rare. I would beg my child to shun vaccines for any (yet non-existent) grandchildren and I'm starting to explore some homeopathic and naturopathic practitioners. Growing and using more herbs, trying to educate myself.

But I'm forever hitched to those drugs, I'm afraid, regardless. But that's only because I started them before medicine became exclusively an exercise in milking the patient.

D. mellitus

(Anonymous) 2025-02-26 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
"And I see the levels and symptoms go down with ivermectin."

There is hope.

- Cicada Grove

(Anonymous) 2025-02-26 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
I feel this week's meme would have been even more on the nose if all the people in it were flipping the bird.

(Anonymous) 2025-02-26 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
I like your list of safe RX drugs. I will be 77 on Ash Wednesday. If I need something for a cold or other things will take something Irish. This is not medical advice just something I do as needed. Blueberry

[personal profile] anonymoose_canadian 2025-02-26 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. I have mixed feelings about this: on the one hand, new coronaviruses are discovered all the time, and this one is apparently exclusively found in bats. Right now, I doubt that there is any evidence for this actually being all the dangerous.

On the other hand, given just how many people I know are sick right now, and just how close the medical system here seems to a complete collapse, I am starting to wonder if we might have been in an extended phase 10 of JMG's orginal hypothesis (where everyone hoped for a miracle and did our best to ignore what is happening), and we could enter phase 11 (where there is mass panic as it becomes clear a ton of people are dying) at any time. In fact, a lot of oddities here in Ottawa make perfect sense if a lot of people are already subconsciously aware of the fact that far too many people are dying for it to be normal.

What worries me is that if this is the case, a new coronavirus at Wuhan is about as perfect a symbol for this mass panic to latch onto as any could be, especially for those who are determined to avoid dealing with the possibility that it might be the experimental vaccines....

[personal profile] anonymoose_canadian 2025-02-26 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
At this point on the basis of the work of Dr. Fung and Gary Taubes, I am quite convinced that how diabetes is treated is one of the most harmful thing allopathic medicine ever did. Insulin is a godsend for type I diabetics, who would otherwise always die, but for type II diabetics it has been a disaster. There were effective ways to treat type II diabetes prior to insulin: all of them boiled down to cutting down on sugar and carbohydrates, and eat a diet much higher in fat.

Once insuline was discovered, it was found that those diets were dangerous for diabetics on insulin (because insulin forces blood sugar down, and adding extra insulin pushes it down regardless of whether or not it is safe); and so they were thrown out as "dangerous". However, the problem with type II diabetes is not just the blood sugar, but the excess insulin, and adding more of it can keep blood sugar down, but makes a lot of the other problems much worse.

Vaccines and Autism

(Anonymous) 2025-02-26 05:02 am (UTC)(link)
I wanted to share with the readership this link about vaccines and its connection to autism. It's not related to COVID, but the concern about vaccine injury is relevant.

https://jbhandley.substack.com/p/international-scientists-have-found?r=bimpn&utm_medium=ios&triedRedirect=true


STAFFORDSHIRE, England —Dr. Chris Exley of Keele University in England and his colleagues published a paper that for the first time ever looked at the brain tissue of subjects with autism to determine the level of aluminum (note: they spell “aluminum” as “aluminium” in the United Kingdom) found within their brain tissue. For anyone trying to convince the world that “the science is settled and vaccines don’t cause autism,” the study’s findings are deeply contradictory to that statement. In a blog post written by Professor Exley on the day his study was published, he explained the groundbreaking result:

“…while the aluminium content of each of the 5 brains [of people with autism] was shockingly high it was the location of the aluminium in the brain tissue which served as the standout observation…The new evidence strongly suggests that aluminium is entering the brain in ASD [autism spectrum disorders] via pro-inflammatory cells which have become loaded up with aluminium in the blood and/or lymph, much as has been demonstrated for monocytes at injection sites for vaccines including aluminium adjuvants.”

“…while the aluminium content of each of the 5 brains [of people with autism] was shockingly high it was the location of the aluminium in the brain tissue which served as the standout observation…The new evidence strongly suggests that aluminium is entering the brain in ASD [autism spectrum disorders] via pro-inflammatory cells which have become loaded up with aluminium in the blood and/or lymph, much as has been demonstrated for monocytes at injection sites for vaccines including aluminium adjuvants.”
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Denninger's comments on Alberta Covid report, Yale study

[personal profile] drhooves 2025-02-26 05:07 am (UTC)(link)
A few days ago Karl Denninger posted a blog entry (wtih 8 pages of comments) on a couple of recent reports indicating how bad The Jabs were - and how he warned against it before they were available.

https://market-ticker.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?post=252858

Yes, he does some patting of his own back, but he was one of the first to publish warnings about MRNA.

Here's the link to the report last month from out of Alberta - not sure if it's been posted before, though I did see numerous comments on these threads about the Yale report.

https://open.alberta.ca/dataset/88bbf80e-f8c8-4355-b751-c2086e204b34/resource/73efb35c-41d9-4264-881d-15a1f76861d3/download/hlth-albertas-covid-19-pandemic-response-2025-01-revised-biographies.pdf

From page 189:

"Pfizer vaccine safety data from the three-month post-authorization trial was alarming.
o 1,223 deaths attributed to the vaccine.
o 42,086 people injured within 4 days of vaccination.
o 45% of these were between the ages of 18-50 (who were at negligible risk from COVID-19 infection)."

That's just one bullet point from the list of key findings beginning on page 187....

Re: Betwixt and Between

[personal profile] fredsmith11 2025-02-26 05:43 am (UTC)(link)
Said another way:

A different group of doctors sounded the alarm after the WHO again concocted a pile of steaming BS, in another transparent attempt to persuade people there's lots and lots of very scary diseases out there and they should believe the WHO'S pathetic drivel.

(Anonymous) 2025-02-26 05:46 am (UTC)(link)
You touch on something important. If Big Pharma only did nasty things, nobody would trust them ever. There is some stuff they do that works a treat, but they then use that good will to shoehorn in their less ethical junk for the sake of 'make money line go up'. Figuring out which is good and which is bad is such a difficult thing especially when it is a new thing right out of the lab.

About a year back my father got diagnosed with Bladder cancer and with eight treatments of immunotherapy, now the cancer is completely gone. Only 5 years ago that was a slow death sentence, today it is curable. It is kind of amazing to see what has been achieved in the field of cancer treatments at least. At least the doctors where honest in saying to him that it was experimental and there was the risk of being diabetic from it.

But I can name about a half dozen times when stuff has been prescribed and it was a total bust or just done to get you out of the office as quick as possible.

A weird one was a pain killed I was given once that had the weirdest side effect. I though the batteries had gone flat in the door bell until I realized all my hearing had drop a half octave! Very weird to experience.

I was also on another pain killer for a double herniated spinal injury about 10 years back. My short term memory has been fried ever since and while at the time there was nothing mentioned of this, I have come across many people that have experienced this since having it.

Like you I am now getting fairly deep into herbal treatments, in a sense of prevention is better than cure. It is a very cool scene around that and it has worked out well so far. I would recommend the folks over at 'Plant Healer Book store' for a good introduction but there are many more like that around. Jessi Wolf Hardin and the late Stephen Harrod Bruhner are both great at speaking the quiet parts loud as a great introduction.

[personal profile] fredsmith11 2025-02-26 05:51 am (UTC)(link)
My AI bot/troll alarm is going off with this post.

The only need for a booster is if you're determined to self-harm and desire a potententially grisly and drawn out demise.

[personal profile] coyote_girl 2025-02-26 06:19 am (UTC)(link)
One thing I've been wondering on this whole covid cult is how it ties into the social myth of progress. On the surface the experimental gene therapy is passed off as the new miracle technology as life and nature is further subjugated to scientific advancement.

That certainly covers a fair number of believers, but how many saw the lock downs and work from home as an escape from the soul crushing corporate world? I recall hearing of some of the people during the Y2K non-event 25 years ago who were more worried that they would just have to go back to more of the same. I wonder how many have had enough of progress and the treadmill of consumerism and indentured servitude? The rat race looks to be proving more than just hell for introverts.

I wonder if a subconscious driver for some of the mania is also the stresses of a declining civilization while pretending everything is still progressing? Want more cognitive disconnect with your covid? Though the main hysteria is still from the massive fear spell authorities have been playing. Still that's a lot of emotional energy out there that could find an interesting new direction if the narrative really does unravel.

[personal profile] coyote_girl 2025-02-26 06:36 am (UTC)(link)
I think this is a good example of how one size does not fit all. Though it's probably a small fraction of the numbers claimed, modern medicine has saved some lives. More than it's taken or diminished is another question though.

Personally I rate modern medicine down there with deer ticks, but how will my attitude change when I get bitten by a real deer tick? I remember my vet would prescribe doxycycline for tick bites on dogs.

Given the death of trust with the industry, I would only see a doctor as a crime of last resort, but there are conditions and injures that qualify as a last resort.
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Re: God Mode

[personal profile] the_arcane_archivist 2025-02-26 08:05 am (UTC)(link)
Internet is half a nuisance, it started weaponized (ARPANET) but pretty much ended up to be used by the people to spiritual use, pretty much like the Church, Basilicas in Ancient Rome were civic places for state bureaucracy and ended up as spiritual places.

Where do I want to go, is that it seems that US is pushing a lot on this Software supremacy and AI and stuff, but while Russia and China seem to grow slowly, US grows like a bubble. But if you grow slowly like a coiled,spiral shell if you lose the last ring you still have something, but if it's a bubble you lose everything.

I speculated weeks ago that Musk wants to reform the government like he did with Twitter, he confirmed in a tweet a few days ago.

While US badly needs reform there could be problems with this Big TEch approach, let's hope he DODGES a bullet, pun intended of course.

We speculated here on the forum that Internet might go down in the future, Looking at it from the perspective of a IT professional I think it will go down in some parts, with some countries still having it, it will look if anything pretty much like JMG's Catabolic Collapse, if anything the LLMs and AI stuff is pretty much an automated form of catabolism.

We can envision in the future a point where people US use a lot of services from Russia because the cloud crashed, or because AI bubble popped(.com style like bubble popping) as an example, because China usually serves the internal market, see WeChat as an example.

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Re: Betwixt and Between

[personal profile] the_arcane_archivist 2025-02-26 08:09 am (UTC)(link)
TExPTB(The Ex Powers That Be) seem desperate for their soft coup. Looking for a hot spot or some patient zero some thread beginning to start their machine. I think without a big country playing this they cannot have the smallest chance. I think last time the BRICS played along just to test their control systems.
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Re: God Mode

[personal profile] the_arcane_archivist 2025-02-26 08:12 am (UTC)(link)

Internet is half a nuisance, it started weaponized (ARPANET) but pretty much ended up to be used by the people to spiritual use, pretty much like the Church, Basilicas in Ancient Rome were civic places for state bureaucracy and ended up as spiritual places.

IBM started the same as Census Business the ubiquitous empire making machine, and ended up making the PC.

Funny that this fits in my PKD divination system dates and all...

In the end people will end up using "The Matrix" for their own use. Always has been.
Edited 2025-02-26 08:17 (UTC)
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[personal profile] the_arcane_archivist 2025-02-26 08:17 am (UTC)(link)
It pops up, now and then, looks like TExPTB(The Ex Powers That Be) seem desperate for their soft coup.

(Anonymous) 2025-02-26 10:24 am (UTC)(link)
You mean the MERS-like HKU5-CoV-2 (that's a mouthful) discovered last week ? So far it isn't an outbreak per se, it's just been FOUND on bats by some people from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, people that were involved five years ago with the pandemic beginnings. The worry is that it has what it takes to transmit to people ("furin-cleavage"), and since we've got a lot of people immuno-compromised following vaccination, this one could theoretically tear through the population more easily.
That's what I gather, if you had a different news item in mind, apologies ;-)

~Thibault

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