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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2025-01-14 11:56 am

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 180

flatten the curveWe are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; public health authorities government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.


5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

6. Please don't just post bare links without explanation. A sentence or two telling readers what's on the other side of the link is a reasonable courtesy, and if you don't include it, your attempted post will be deleted.

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.


With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

(Anonymous) 2025-01-14 06:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Noting your meme of the week, I've wondered the same thing myself. Joel Salatin says that is one of the things that he would want to do that is illegal.

Strange, isn't it?

John of Red Hook

(Anonymous) 2025-01-14 06:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh the power of the mighty meme; subversion.

(Anonymous) 2025-01-14 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/rfk-jr-health-secretary-doctors-urge-senate-block-trump-administration-rcna186807


"The health and well being of 336 million Americans depend on leadership at HHS that prioritizes science, evidence based medicine, and strengthening the integrity of our public health system," the letter reads. "RFK Jr. is not only unqualified to lead this essential agency - he is actively dangerous."



Something like this should have been expected...


I think there will be some resistance to this change of executive, did the left learn some OpSec!?!

Today's meme

[personal profile] mysteries_abound 2025-01-14 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I honestly do not know whether to laugh or cry over today's meme. I have sent it to several people; interested to see what kind of response I get to it, if any.


MJ from MA

Poor poultry owners

(Anonymous) 2025-01-14 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I love this week's meme. Every time I see one of those stories in the news, it drives me nuts.

They kill millions of poultry that are not just not sick, but not even infected- perfectly healthy. And when it's a backyard flock case, they kill all the little backyard flocks for miles around. Some of those little flocks are rare and badly endangered heritage breeds that some enthusiast is keeping alive.

And it won't stop it- and that's what they can't admit to themselves. They'd have to kill every wild bird on earth.
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Mixed bag on the health front over the holidays

[personal profile] drhooves 2025-01-14 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I had a cold and missed Christmas dinner with my two brothers, but made it through feeling okay. Everybody here locally is doing pretty good.

But some of my extended family and a friend didn't fare so well. My cousin's spouse (65yo) passed away on Christmas Day from turbo cancer, in spite of a prognosis of 2-3 years more with treatments when he was diagnosed back in October. Another cousin who turns 62 this month let us know that he's got prostate cancer on Christmas Eve, and has opted for a six month treatment program of hormone therapy and radiation. Apparently the cancer has not spread outside of the prostate. This was very scary for him, as his father went in for surgery for prostate cancer about 20 years ago at age 70, and didn't make it. A friend of mine in Kentucky had a brain tumor 3 years ago, and had "clean" scans for a bit, but her husband let me know on New Year's Eve that recent scans have indicated spots of it are back.

Since we're starting on four years now of when the first round of Jabs were rolled out, it's going to be difficult to nail down the root cause of these kinds of cases. My family had been spared up to this point (about 30 of us all told on one side of the tree), but the numbers are catching up fast now. Even my older brother (72 yo) who has enjoyed great health his whole life has really slowed down the past few months. He got the first couple of Jabs, but no boosters AFAIK. His wife did pass away early last year though, so maybe that stress just caught up with him.

The Covid, Long Covid, and Jabbed numbers will never be accurately known. The avalanche of Big Harma commercials I saw on TV over the holidays (watching some football) tells me the "Evil Ones" are still running the show....

It has been a strange week

(Anonymous) 2025-01-14 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Last Friday, one of a team I work with announced she was retiring because she has to do something about taking care of her health. On Sunday, my 40 year old daughter said that all of her friends, people in her age group, are getting cancer. Breast cancer, thyroid cancer, other types unspecified. Then today, Tuesday, I was told that a woman that I worked with a year ago -- probably in her 50s -- passed away from stomach cancer. That was in the last 5 days. All heavily vaxxed.
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Re: Mixed bag on the health front over the holidays

[personal profile] escorcher 2025-01-14 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for sharing, drhooves.

It's difficult to know what may have caused or accelerated what of course. :-/

I'm in my 50s and it's been pretty quiet regards friends and family on the potential jabs related health front until Fall/Autumn last year. Now have a mate one year older than me with terminal prostate cancer, one in his 60s recovering from a major colon cancer operation and a job ending stroke in the family - 50s again. Does all seem to be going for it last few months. And don't even mention the number of long term relationships ending, mine included.
Something in the air? (You'd think we'd know by open post 180!!!)
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[personal profile] drhooves 2025-01-15 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
Pot, meet Kettle.

Certainly RFK, Jr has some traits and opinions that should be discussed relative to the position. Any candidate does. I'm not even sure if his medical background is sufficient for the role.

But "actively dangerous"? Hah. That's a good one.

(Anonymous) 2025-01-15 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
prioritizes science, evidence based medicine, and strengthening the integrity of our public health system

Yes, that's what RFK wants to do, and why we need drastic changes at HHS: because they are not doing those things.

Incidentally, "evidence based medicine" is one of those things that sounds great, but is actually ruining everything. In practice, it means taking the doctor's judgement out of the equation and forcing patients into a one-size-fits-all treatment backed by "evidence" that is mostly bought and paid for by the companies selling that treatment.

Re: Poor poultry owners

(Anonymous) 2025-01-15 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
The delusional, arrogant, and I-gotta-get-my-pension-oriented health authorities, whomever they may be, and of which there are evidently legion from federal to local levels, are always liable to bully the peeps, and they will keep doing whatever they can get away with that gives them the Me-Important-in-Important-Scary-Situation-on-TV good feelz.

Next up: who knows? Maybe your cats. Maybe your dogs. Maybe both.

They've already been injecting the children with poison, and shaming the parents who won't go along with it. Tey've been injecting pregnant women, for heavensakes. Oh, um, "pregnant persons," sorry.

You either fall for the bovineshale and comply or you don't.

The peeps who own the flocks that are getting destroyed, I would surmise that a story that's getting slammed out of sight right now is that a good number of them are hopping mad and getting organized.

Re: Mixed bag on the health front over the holidays

(Anonymous) 2025-01-15 06:40 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe we should make a thread about the esoteric information about cancers, and the things that worked in the recent past against it, there seemed to be a lot of discoveries in the '70s and '80. Wilhelm Reich maybe was into something...

I think we should know the beast we are facing since we are on a forum that has also an esoteric bent.

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[personal profile] escorcher 2025-01-15 01:01 pm (UTC)(link)
And there's the irony in all this. The 'scientific method' supposedly took the subjectivity out of healthcare to make it good for everyone and protect from the whims of 'out there' doctors. However, this has been increasingly 'subject' (twisted?) to the powerful influences of money, power and prevailing beliefs - you can call them whims if you like...
There's a balance that needs to be struck for sure and it looks like individuals will be taking back control, hopefully for the overall 'good'.

Cancer cases - datapoint

[personal profile] stubborn_ass 2025-01-15 01:13 pm (UTC)(link)
https://x.com/Humanspective/status/1878895874769863162

There is an embedded video if people want to watch it...

Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong (LA Times owner), throws his support behind Robert F Kennedy Jr saying: “[he] knows more about the science than most doctors.”.

Stunningly, he goes on to mention “we have to face reality” about the disturbing fall out from mRNA covid vaccines and the cancer cases he’s never seen in his lifetime, or at least his clinical career:

“We’re gonna have to address the rising instances of cancer. For the first time in my career, I’ve seen an 8-year old, 9-year old, 10-year old with colon cancer.”

“For the first time in my career, I’ve had a 13-year old child in our clinic d*e of metastatic pancreatic cancer.”

Re: Cancer cases - datapoint

[personal profile] stubborn_ass 2025-01-15 01:23 pm (UTC)(link)
The silver lining is that it doesn't have to be an automatic death sentence, not with what we now know of HCQ, VIM, Fenben etc. Since a combination of those compounds in different strengths cures a huge variety of ailments, it would really make many well-compensated doctors redundant.

So we are observing a truly soul-testing situation - do enough certified doctors have a moral conscience left and start pushing publicly for more general usage of said compounds... or do they continue to see increasingly sick patients and profit off their eventual deaths?

Unfortunately I don't see a restoration of fertility for the affected kids, as the damage to both the male and female fertility components is much more insidious than most people figure.
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[personal profile] scotlyn 2025-01-15 02:11 pm (UTC)(link)
And, of course, the fact that "The health and well being of 336 million Americans depend on leadership at HHS that prioritizes science, evidence based medicine, and strengthening the integrity of our public health system" is WHY so many people have hopes of seeing RFK Jr in that position...

Re: Mixed bag on the health front over the holidays

[personal profile] deathcap 2025-01-15 02:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Not cancer, but a guy I know informed me that his 43 year old son was just diagnosed with heart failure after going to the hospital for walking pneumonia. [b]43!!![/b]
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[personal profile] scotlyn 2025-01-15 02:17 pm (UTC)(link)
If my personal experience is anything to go by "evidence-based" means something more like "evidence-[DE]based"... or at the very least, "evidence-resistant."

But, yes, the REASON "evidence-based" medicine takes doctor's judgments and individual patient experience out of the equation, is that these two elements of medicine are specifically excluded (by what is known as "blinding") from the so-called "gold standard" type clinical trial - the "Double Blind Random Controlled Trial." When you find out stuff about a drug or procedure by eliminating the doctor and the patient from consideration, it actually can tell you precious little about the drug or procedure in the context of the doctor and the patient.

(Anonymous) 2025-01-15 03:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Correct.

-Bofur
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Ecosophia Prayer List

[personal profile] tunesmyth 2025-01-15 03:57 pm (UTC)(link)
At this link is the full list of all of the requests for prayer that have recently appeared at ecosophia.net and ecosophia.dreamwidth.org, as well as in the comments of the prayer list posts. Please feel free to add any or all of the requests to your own prayers.

If I missed anybody, or if you would like to add a prayer request for yourself or anyone who has given you consent (or for whom a relevant person holds power of consent) to the list, please feel free to leave a comment below and/or in the comments at the current prayer list post.

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This week I would like to bring special attention to the following prayer requests.


May Frank R. Hartman, who lost his house in the Altadena fire, and all who have been affected by the larger conflagration be blessed and healed.

May MethylEthyl, who recently fractured a rib coughing, heal without complications, and have sufficient help for the move that she and hers are making at the end of the month.

May Sub's Wife's upcoming major surgery on Wednesday 1/15 go smoothly and successfully, and may she recover with ease back to full health.

May David/Trubrujah's 5 year old nephew Jayce, who is back home after chemotherapy for his leukemia, be healed quickly and fully, and may he, and mother Amanda, and their family find be aided with physical, mental, and emotional strength while they deal with this new life altering situation. (good news update!)

May Mindwind's dad Clem, who in the midst of a struggle back to normal after a head injury has been told he shows signs of congestive heart failure, be blessed, healed, and encouraged.

May Corey Benton, who is currently in hospital and whose throat tumor has grown around an artery and won't be treated surgically, be healed of throat cancer. He is not doing well, and consents to any kind of distance healing offered. [Note: Healing Hands should be fine, but if offering energy work which could potentially conflict with another, please first leave a note in comments or write to randomactsofkarmasc to double check that it's safe] (1/7)

May Christian's cervical spine surgery on 1/14 be successful, and may he heal completely and with speed; and may the bad feelings and headaches plaguing him be lifted.

May Viktoria have a safe and healthy pregnancy, and may the baby be born safe, healthy and blessed. May Marko have the strength, wisdom and balance to face the challenges set before him. (picture)

May Open Space's friend's mother
Judith
be blessed and healed for a complete recovery from cancer.

May Linda from the Quest Bookshop of the Theosophical Society, who has developed a turbo cancer, be blessed with a successful surgery under a steady hand when she goes into the operating room in mid January, and with well-being and a speedy recovery.

May Bill Rice (Will1000) in southern California, who suffered a painful back injury, be blessed and healed, and may he quickly recover full health and movement.

May Peter Van Erp's friend Kate Bowden's husband Russ Hobson and his family be enveloped with love as he follows his path forward with the glioblastoma (brain cancer) which has afflicted him.

May Daedalus/ARS receive guidance and finish his kundalini awakening, and overcome the neurological and qi and blood circulation problems that have kept him largely immobilised for several years; may the path toward achieving his life's work be cleared of obstacles.

May baby Gigi, continue to gain weight and strength, and continue to heal from a possible medication overdose which her mother Elena received during pregnancy, and may Elena be blessed and healed from the continuing random tremors which ensued; may Gigi's big brother Francis continue to be in excellent health and be blessed.

May Jennifer, whose pregnancy has entered its third trimester, have a safe and healthy pregnancy, may the delivery go smoothly, and may her baby be born healthy and blessed.

May Scotlyn's friend Fiona, who has been in hospital since early October with what is a diagnosis of ovarian cancer, be blessed and healed, and encouraged in ways that help her to maintain a positive mental and spiritual outlook.

May Peter Evans in California, who has been diagnosed with colon cancer, be completely healed with ease, and make a rapid and total recovery.

May Jennifer and Josiah, their daughter Joanna, and their unborn daughter be protected from all harmful and malicious influences, and may any connection to malign entities or hostile thought forms or projections be broken and their influence banished.

May Giulia (Julia) in the Eastern suburbs of Cleveland Ohio be healed of recurring seizures and paralysis of her left side and other neurological problems associated with a cyst on the right side of her brain and with surgery to treat it.



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Guidelines for how long prayer requests stay on the list, how to word requests, how to be added to the weekly email list, how to improve the chances of your prayer being answered, and several other common questions and issues, are to be found at the Ecosophia Prayer List FAQ.

If there are any among you who might wish to join me in a bit of astrological timing, I pray each week for the health of all those with health problems on the list on the astrological hour of the Sun on Sundays, bearing in mind the Sun's rulerships of heart, brain, and vital energies. If this appeals to you, I invite you to join me.
Edited 2025-01-15 16:14 (UTC)

Paul Marik's Cancer Care Document

[personal profile] angelica5804 2025-01-15 04:03 pm (UTC)(link)
In October Dr. Paul Marik published an extensive review of the effective use of repurposed drugs in cancer care. Another resource...
https://covid19criticalcare.com/reviews-and-monographs/cancer-care/

(Anonymous) 2025-01-15 04:09 pm (UTC)(link)
One of my co-workers has been overly eager to get the vaxxes, racing out for each and every booster as and when they became available. Prior to that, she was always eager to go get the latest flu shot every fall. Other than an ongoing issue with asthma (and of course the steady cumulative weight gain associated with medications typically prescribed for that condition) her health was quite good, perhaps the best one could expect at the age of 63.

Last week she was found dead in her home, with no indication of the cause of death other than it appeared to have happened quite suddenly.

Old Crimes and New Ones

(Anonymous) 2025-01-15 04:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I was looking up some old crime novels and came across this image for the cover of a book (not the one I was looking for), and I thought it might be kind of like one of the many memes shown here:

https://doyouwriteunderyourownname.blogspot.com/2025/01/forgotten-book-dead-of-physician.html


(Anonymous) 2025-01-15 04:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't pay any attention to the news, but your meme explains why there were no eggs at the grocery store today.

Re: Mixed bag on the health front over the holidays

(Anonymous) 2025-01-15 04:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Let's start a book thread, I'll start

Title: The cancer biopathy
Series: Discovery of the orgone 2
Author(s): Wilhelm Reich
Publisher: Farrar, Straus and Giroux
Year: 1977
ISBN: 9780374118365; 0374118361


Title: World Without Cancer; The Story of Vitamin B17 Edition: 3
Author(s): Edward G Griffin
Publisher: AMERICAN MEDIA
Year: 1974
ISBN: 9780912986500; 0912986506



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