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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2024-12-17 10:53 am

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 176

anti-fooderWe are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; public health authorities government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. I have added a new rule (see below, #6):

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.


5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

6. Please don't just post bare links without explanation. A sentence or two telling readers what's on the other side of the link is a reasonable courtesy, and if you don't include it, your attempted post will be deleted.

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.


With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

The More Things Change...

[personal profile] weilong 2024-12-22 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
I was just listening to a lecture series about Cornelius Agrippa, the 16th century author of Three Books of Occult Philosophy. He was apparently a medical doctor as well as an alchemist and writer on occult topics.

Anyway, it was mentioned that he was in some European city caring for plague victims, because all of the other doctors their had fled for their lives. Afterward, the city's doctors came back and basically sued him for practicing medicine without a license. He was hounded out of the city over that.

So, five hundred years ago in Europe, the medical industry was controlled by profit-seeking cowards who would attack anyone who tried to help the people that they had refused to.

Re: The More Things Change...

(Anonymous) 2024-12-22 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
Why am I not surprised. It's along history. It seems to be that people would rather force others to do their bidding than to be the authority of good themselves.

Re: The More Things Change...

[personal profile] fredsmith11 2024-12-22 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
The Hippocratic Oath was originally formulated to mean "thou shall not poison", since so many doctors at the time were engaged to poison enemies.

Re: The More Things Change...

(Anonymous) 2024-12-22 10:30 am (UTC)(link)
Nicholas Culpepper suffered a similar fate. He went out of his way to help London's poor, ignored by doctors as they couldn't pay. Despite that, he was still hounded by the medical profession. Similarly, when you look at the history of the Nazi party, one of the first groups to join the party en masse were doctors. Best thing anyone can do for their health is to avoid doctors unless actively dying, seems to me.

Re: The More Things Change...

[personal profile] escorcher 2024-12-22 12:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmmmm...

A reminder of the fact as JMG basically says that being human/humanity is a phase 'the spirit' goes through (singular, plural and Absolute) and will never really change in itself.

It's a bit like the playground in school but with so called adults in it.

Learn and you're moving on.
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Re: The More Things Change...

[personal profile] charlieobert 2024-12-22 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Mentioning Agrippa and Culpeper - I think it significant that we find these things often linked together, and often stigmatized and ridiculed:

- healing, especially natural, herbal and self-healing outside the medical establishment

- astrology and the occult

Ooops looks like it hits both gender in the reproductive functions

(Anonymous) 2024-12-22 03:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Covid‐19 vaccination BNT162b2 temporarily impairs semen concentration and total motile count among semen donors

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9350322/



I also learned here on this open thread that spike concetrates in the ovaries
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[personal profile] scotlyn 2024-12-22 05:03 pm (UTC)(link)
The more I read back into the history of HIV, the more I see history "rhyming" with Covid.

The following is an interesting and historically illuminating account of a dialogue. https://www.altheal.org/toxicity/debazt.htm

Successive, mutually contending, letters to the editor of a journal called "The Citizen", entitled "AZT: A Medicine from Hell" and "AZT: A Medicine from Heaven", are sandwiched here within in a longer, historical account of the dialogue and its effects. One of the powerful international effects includes the fact that the debate came to the notice of then South African President Thabo Mbeki, who decided to do a very sensible thing and organise a scientific conference to which the brightest and best on both sides of two politically charged questions were invited to present and to debate, so that South African health policy could be properly informed.

The contentious questions that the conference were invited to address:
1) does HIV cause AIDS?
2) presuming the answer to no 1 is yes, do the DNA altering or terminating class of drugs known as "antiretrovirals" offer benefits to HIV-positive South Africans?
The conference was duly held, and led to a second conference, and a lengthy and lively internet correspondence in the intervening period - most of which appears to be memory holed.
Although, the South African official report on the conferences can still be read here:
https://www.gov.za/sites/default/files/gcis_document/201409/aidspanelpdf0.pdf

Because the price for holding this conference, for inviting, and giving consideration to the independent scientists who dissented from the WHO "consensus", for not doing what they were told by the then "experts", for withholding these genotoxic meds from pregnant, HIV-positive mothers, Mbeki and his government were excoriated from the highest heavens, and official history as written in places like Wikipedia now remembers his administration as one of "denialism" and "unscientific scaremongering" which has led to the "estimated by modelling" deaths of 300,000+ South Africans for which they are still held to blame.

Some of the scientists who are apportioned their share of this blame (for "misinforming" the South African government with their views), have answered the charge with a paper here:
https://www.duesberg.com/2009_Duesberg_et_al_Medical_Hypotheses.pdf

Apparently this paper only reached the pre-print stage and was later withdrawn from its promised publication for (you guessed it) "misinformation."

Thus do both "The Science" and "The History" police and correct themselves... ;)

(Anonymous) 2024-12-22 05:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Fauci holds ‘distinguished professor’ role at DC university but hasn’t taught one class

https://nypost.com/2024/12/21/media/fauci-holds-distinguished-professor-role-at-dc-university-but-hasnt-taught-one-class/

[personal profile] weilong 2024-12-22 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I think "not actually doing anything" is the job description for a Professor Emeritus. It's just an honor given to distinguished people, not an actual job.

(Anonymous) 2024-12-23 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
Well I have one line of a spoken word song.

Me be distinguished because I extinguished!!!

(Anonymous) 2024-12-22 05:47 pm (UTC)(link)
US could quit WHO on Trump’s first day – FT

https://www.rt.com/news/609763-us-quit-who-trump-inauguration/

(Anonymous) 2024-12-23 04:22 am (UTC)(link)
OH MAN! LET IT BE!

(Anonymous) 2024-12-22 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
First time I am hearing discussed the effect of the waxxine on the highly skilled workforce:


https://www.youtube.com/live/ZTtV2SlRN6Q?t=4503

And the worsening of pretty much everything in terms of services that required highly skilled workforce!

[personal profile] stubborn_ass 2024-12-23 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
Even Toyota has problems making reliable cars now... engine fault lies in leaving machining residue during the manufacturing process, over 100K big vehicles recalled.

https://infoemplea2.com/en/news/toyota-alert-recall-of-more-than-100000-cars-due-to-engine-failure/

[personal profile] boccaccio 2024-12-24 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sure you noticed too that the problems started in July 2021. What a coincidence! (not....)

(Anonymous) 2024-12-23 06:10 pm (UTC)(link)
You are not kidding. Every professional service I use lately ends up being riddled with inaccuracies and delays.
I remember when US businesses used to hold themselves to a much higher standard.
Anymore to get things done right I have to do them myself.

Vindication!

(Anonymous) 2024-12-23 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
I am pleased to share a bit of breaking news: Dr. Byram Bridle (the guy who shared the results of the Japanese study that showed nano lipid particles travelling to various organs within hours of getting foxed) has been vindicated in an official police report that documents criminal harassment and impersonation against him. He was one of the select few who were funded by the Government of Canada to develop a ‘fox’ for ‘cooties’ -- and then, a whisper campaign against him cropped up which resulted in him being banned from entering his lab and office at the University of Guelph for 3 1/2 years and loss of all research grants. And the more they slandered him the louder he spoke up against the ‘plandemic’.

A criminal investigation is ongoing that involves two of Dr. Bridle’s colleagues who produced websites that impersonated him and received $millions from the federal government to ‘push’ public acceptance of the ‘clot shots’.

Below is a link to the audio file of his interview by Rodney Palmer (a journalist who ‘asked too many questions’ during ‘medicine time’ and lost his job at CBC as a result) is available here: https://soundcloud.com/talk-nation-radio-720297204/the-danger-of-silence. The interview unravels Bridle’s tale of mystery, intrigue, police investigations and hidden identities.

Ron M

Re: Vindication!

(Anonymous) 2024-12-23 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
Absolutely amazing. Good news. Plus: This is the stuff of high drama and intrigue. What a dirty dirty business 'somebody' engaged in.

I wonder how high up the campaign of slander reached. Or originated.

Re: Vindication!

[personal profile] boccaccio 2024-12-24 04:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Great news! dr Bridle was the first one who provided actual evidence that the vax is deeply flawed and he jeopardized his career in doing so. I'll be relieved if some justice will be done in his case. He is a hero.

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