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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2024-12-03 11:53 am

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 174

raking in the lootWe are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; public health authorities government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.


5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.


With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Re: It ain't over til it's over

[personal profile] weilong 2024-12-05 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't negate the possibility of epidemic disease. Those things do happen from time to time.
I would, however, suggest looking beyond viruses to all of the other things that make people sick.

One last thing: I haven't been keeping up on the ingress charts, but I would also mention that there are several overlapping, ongoing epidemics in the US. RFK's whole thing about processed food is just one of many.
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Re: It ain't over til it's over

[personal profile] escorcher 2024-12-05 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I will add 'likely of a feverish nature' is mentioned in JMG's assessment.

Of course the state of the 'terrain' is important but there's still something in the air.

Re: It ain't over til it's over

[personal profile] boccaccio 2024-12-06 07:44 am (UTC)(link)
Izabela predicted something similar in her recent video about Germany. She saw a bacteria making many people sick this winter. It will be like a kind of 'purge'. She didn't appear to see many people dying, but getting ill.

And Craig Hamilton Parker predicted several years back that 'after 2024' there would be a bacteria going around that would make more victims than Covid. It would start in Australia.

We'll see what happens. So far far it seems to be reasonably ok in my country. Strange that the UK had a lot of people hospitalized for flu. I'll see if I can find Dutch numbers on that

Re: It ain't over til it's over

[personal profile] boccaccio 2024-12-06 03:46 pm (UTC)(link)
The Netherlands seem to have nothing out of the ordinary going on. The updates on hospitalisations have stopped since June 1st this year, but self reported infection data show surprising low amounts of infections currently (https://www.infectieradar.nl/results in Dutch, first graph you see when scrolling down). The sewage data are also low (https://www.corona-lokaal.nl/locatie/Nederland/waterzuivering/Nederland graph upper left). Usually England and the Netherlands have synchronistic development but this time it seems different.
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Re: It ain't over til it's over

[personal profile] escorcher 2024-12-06 05:48 pm (UTC)(link)
COVID is low right now but showing signs of an uptick (interestingly XEC has fallen back as a % of total infections but suspect the LPs have taken up the slack - they are all K.P.3 iterations). Flu and RSV are rising quickly (which to a fair extent is what happens every year at this time - I am mindful of not being on the 'hype train' or alarmist).
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Re: It ain't over til it's over

[personal profile] escorcher 2024-12-06 04:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Think Izabela's prediction for Germany is more metaphorical or psychological than disease led. Will be interesting to see how things develop.