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Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 166

We are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; ~~public health authorities~~ government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.

3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.

5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

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I have a strong feeling bird flue is going to be the next current thing and will be unleashed after the November election.
However I'm also hopeful that enough people have become so cynical and angry with the powers that be that they just won't play along and the whole thing becomes a flash in the pan.

Yeah, I doubt they'll be able to put it over on the general population the way they did before. Where they can probably get away with a lot, however, is in the old peoples' homes, mental institutions, hospitals, and jails. To some extent as well, schools. And I hate to say it, but all the illegal immigrants housed in detention facilities and cheap hotels here and there and everywhere -- that's a lot jabs they could put in arms and I don't think the owners of those arms could do much about that other than comply.

Basically: who can they still push around?

And: who are the people who are still watching television on, like, you know, an actual television?

The health authorities, so-called, have been yammering about bird flu and monkey pox and Nipah virus on and off for a long while now. But they've lost their credibility and also the crucial advantage of surprise that they had with covid-19 in 2020-- and that was what got so many people to comply with lockdowns, social distancing, and masking, at least at first-- they either believed the authorities and/or they were taken by surprise, and stunned and confused. It's 2024. Now I know their game and I'm not playing it, and many millions of people would now say the same.

Nom du jour: Smaragdine Blingy Yodelblitzstein

I'm skeptical of that as I see The Wellness Company advertising for this same inevitability. Along with calls to stock up on expensive drugs for every other malady.

But I do agree that some event will be taken advantage of or outright manufactured to keep people distracted, as always.

That picture is hilarious! I remember the arrows in grocery store aisles. In South Carolina, everyone ignored them. And pretty much everyone ignored the masks, too. And guess what? Everyone didn't die! In fact, South Carolina's population keeps growing at a breakneck speed.

How are you doing there in South Carolina?

Pretty well. There were many downed power lines and fallen trees. Now most people have power again and life is almost back to normal.

P.S. I assume the question was about how we're doing in the wake of Hurricane Helene.

Glad to you are well there.

Ha. Someone tried to stop me from going against the arrow, so I (carefully) walked backwards down the aisle to get to where I needed...

Ha ha ha!!

That's hilarious. :-)

I accidentally walked the wrong way down an aisle in the grocery store and they stared at me like I'd driven a Panzer into the playground.

Here, the arrows were assiduously followed in the town's more chi-chi expensive grocery stores, and completely ignored at our local ghetto Piggly Wiggly. Clearly, somebody had slapped the obligatory stickers on the floor, and then customers and employees alike pretended they were purely decorative. Shifted more of my grocery budget to the PW after that.

Same here. At the high-end (in local terms) grocery, people followed the arrows; at the midrange place, some did and some didn't; at the dollar store a block from my apartment, nobody gave a rip about that, or the mask requirement, or anything else of the kind. I'm sure you can guess where I still do a lot more shopping than I did previously.

Lol, same sort of thing here.

In my blue state, the high-end and mid-range stores were policing masks (either officially, or by peer policing, and trust me, Karens are worse than cashiers). The local Spanish grocery store didn't care. I don't speak Spanish and a lot of the employees there don't speak any English, and that's a bit of a challenge because the products are arranged in a rather eclectic way, and there is very little signage (and much of it is in Spanish), so it's not always obvious where things are located. But while shopping (maskless) there I discovered that if I pulled up a picture of what I was looking for on my phone, the employees were happy to take a look and point me (literally) in the right direction. Whatever works, you know? At least we could smile at each other as we communicated with pictures and pointing...

... and that dynamic is why I stopped going to Quaker meeting and became a regular at the rod & gun club. (Except of course I could have a regular conversation at the club, too.)

ICAN Catches Facebook Dictating Content On CDC’s Website And Trying To Avoid FOIA In Discussions With CDC

https://icandecide.org/press-release/ican-catches-facebook-dictating-content-on-cdcs-website-and-trying-to-avoid-foia-in-discussions-with-cdc/

Another co-worker in his 40s dropped dead (cause unknown) this week. I have worked a long time and this never used to be normal. Now it is…

Very sorry to hear this.

So here's the latest summary of the spiritual energy situation from Egon Fischer's Substack: As of the eclipse on October 2, the situation with the bad energy that I have taken to describing as "the Black Oobleck" is as bad as it has ever been (I have come to the conclusion that my recent brain-fogginess is due to this and not Long Covid). But the good news is that going forward, the improved energetic situation on more subtle levels of reality is going to start filtering down to us, and the situation will start of noticeably improve. The downside is that we have to go through a brief period of fear and chaos first in which it might even seem as though global thermonuclear World War 3 is imminent, but this ultimate catastrophe is promised not to happen.

Also, the USA and Israel are now energetically dead, and the UK probably soon will be. When a country is energetically dead, according to Egon, that doesn't necessarily mean people dying. What it means is that the polity in question will, at some point in the foreseeable future, cease to exist in its accustomed form. For instance, the USSR would have been seen to be energetically dead in 1991 at the latest and maybe even as early as 1989, and as of 1992, of course, a new set of regimes ruled that part of the world. In the case of the USA, I take that to mean "the South will rise again". Whatever you think about the "Lost Cause" of the Confederate States of America in 1861, I have long thought that the shotgun-remarriage of the Northern and Southern American states at the end of that conflict was never going to last more than 200 years. That's not a terribly long time in historical terms. I think other parts of the USA may also go their own way.

"energetically dead" - is that the same thing as brain dead?

I'm not being sarcastic. I get the definite feeling with a lot of the visible people in government that there's no-one home anymore, and I'm watching controlled shells go through the motions of being human and replaying programmed scripts.

I think that's more to do with the egregore space being dissolved in an esoteric sense - as mentioned by EF a few months back. The big ones (e.g. Catholic church with its assorted imagery/physical icons) will take longer to dissipate - but one obvious consequence is that if certain of the church's rituals have been corrupted to the extent that it's no longer inherently magical, it will become obvious and feel 'empty' to people without that egregor to hold them together. People across the board will do more church-hopping or shopping, kinda like a pseudo 2nd religiousity. For the smaller egregores - which includes a lot of oligarch-funded NGO's which do election stuff, agitation, color revolutions etc, they will just seem increasingly incompetent and ineffective. I saw a recent news clip - where one of the groups that tar precious artworks were caught before they could do damage - when previously police would literally stand aside and let them finish their 'jobs' before trying to arrest them. They are literally going through the motions now... no real impulse behind them without that egregore.

I recall visiting the church in Ujue, N Spain, in which stands a 12thc Madonna, the rest of the church being more or less empty.

It impressed me, to my great surprise, as having a presence as no other church Madonna ever has, and I was delighted to find the writer of a guide to the region ask his readers 'There's a very strong atmosphere there, has anyone else felt it I wonder?'

This was not the 'wonderful sense of peace' that many people write in church visitor books. It was a sense of antiquity and power.

That sounds incredible.

I found myself virtually alone in a large public gallery late (pre-nine pm) exhibiting Egyptian statuary. All of a sudden I got the feeling of something disguised (to me, an unknowing person) but also 'strange magic.'

I wasn't sure it was benign but definitely antiquity and power. That I could only dimly sense due to my own dim sensibility.

What I sensed in Ujue was certainly not uplifting, serene, or even particularly benign - although certainly not in any way malign or sinister - but simply WAS.

It was validating to read the comment by the writer of the guide book, just as independent corroboration of a haunting from another person confirms one's sanity.

I have to add that I am very sensitive to the presence of evil in persons and buildings, and that conveys a very distinctive feeling which was not evoked in Ujue.

The church in Ujue is fortified and sits at the top of a fortress town which must have seen intense emotion in all the wars of the Reconquista, although traditionally we are meant to pray as Navarese to the Virgin del Puy of Estela, a major pilgrimage centre on the route of St James.

My dentist and the dental assistant both stopped what they were doing to watch the 24 hour tv 'newsflash' station (local big city news) on during my appt. I think they put it on during a lull while I waited for freezing as if I needed it (whatever will this person do without TV).

Wait I thought. NOW WATCHING tv news during procedures? WHAT?

Rootling around in the local antiquarian bookshop, I picked up an exquisite Offices of the Virgin Mary, Venice 1740, which I was able to restore, that being my (dying!) trade.

The Offices, and additional invocations and prayers, are in both Latin and Italian.

I am not Catholic, although my family have been prominent in the Church, but one can sense the power of these ancient texts, above all the protective invocations of guardian angels, archangels, etc. 'The Most Effective Prayer' stands out, and reminds me of the SOP, and also 'St Patrick's Lorica'. And the St Dominic Medal.

When it ditched tradition and Latin, the Church started a slow suicide, culminating in that surely blasphemous 'Covid Vaccine' medal from a few years ago, in which religious imagery was replaced by a hapless schmuck stuck between a doctor and figure and an injector......

The United States began as a pragmatic compromise between a dozen distinct polities, each with its own history and values, not as a single polity.

And way back then people usually treated "the United States" grammatically as a plural, not a singular: "the United States urge X," NOT "urges X."

I am not sure just when the phrase usually began to be treated as a singular rather than a plural in everyday speech, perhaps well after the War Between the States. Or it may have happened a little earlier, when public schooling started to teach "American History" as a single story rather than as a collection of a dozen--later, thirteen!--distinct stories. (Rhode Island came quite late to the Union, and only after severe economic pressure from the other twelve states.)

Despite the unified narrative of our American history books, the country still can be seen as somewhere between nine (for Joel Garreau) and eleven (for Colin Woodard) distinct "sub-nations," each with its own take on what the United States ought to be. If Egon Fischer's predictions hold up, it will probably dissolve into somewhere between nine and eleven disunited polities. And, of course, our host also wrote eloquently about this as a possible future history.

Hi JMG,
I seem to recall you published a piece on the ADR about how you thought the country would separate into various regions. If I am correct, could you provide a link to that particular piece?

Thanks!

Maybe this isn't covid related, but since you brought up spiritual energy . . . I realized today that it has been about two weeks straight that I have been extremely tired, low energy, and brain fogged. I'm sleeping an hour more than normal each night, but I still feel exhausted in the morning. My dreams during this period have been unusually vivid and stressful. Is there some broader energetic stuff happening that's causing this?

I'm pretty sure that's exactly what's going on with you right now, especially if you have always been aware of being a "sensitive".

I’ve also been too pooped to pop lately.

—Princess Cutekitten

It was unreal how brain-foggy tired I felt at work today. A customer even commented on how tired I looked.

Yesterday I was reflecting on some rather poor behavior of mine and I realized that I completely forgot about one of the guiding principles that I used in dealing with other people in my life. I reverted to a diminished state.
I thought that there might be something that exhausted me in my energy, made me haggered.
Two weeks would be about right.

Usually I wake up feeling ready to wrestle a bear. But I have been feeling like an overcooked noodle the past couple of weeks. Terribly tired. Unusually vivid dreams. Difficult to focus my mind. I hope this phenomenon does not last long 'cuz it sucks.

Ron M

Last night I dreamt I was put in a room with three huge screens high on three walls watching some official proceedings / with forms & written material on the screen as well.
I was in some sort of trouble for sure.

All I know, is The Future is not happening in Murica anymore. It's happening somewhere else. I need to find The Future.

Go East young man.

I would put it that one version of what boastingly claims to be The Future TM is being heavily pushed, but we know it really isn't viable at all.

Will thy bring it into being in the near-term? I'm afraid so. Tech Sauron will have his little victories.....

The Future (TM) was never real to begin with. It was a delusion of extending temporary trends into infinity when it was not an outright lie to placate the masses. You can see the real future in rural Kentucky and West Virginia - rows of trailers, sometimes with no electricity or plumbing. They are heated in the winter with primitive stoves.

Can we do better? Perhaps. But certainly not with giant bureaucracies eating up all the resources. Those will have to go. I recently learned that my state has a Department of Aging, which apparently helps with the hurricane relief efforts, along with the other 12 or so departments. How many departments does a state government need?

Department of Missing Crayons has a nice ring to it.

I'd like to head that one up myself.

I'LL NEED TWELVE WEEKS OF VACATION A YEAR OR THE DEAL IS OFF!!!

"Department of Missing Crayons" That sounds like a hilarious Monty Python skit.

Investigators are on the scene! :-)

LOL

"and don't even think of giving me a 5-fig salary!!"

No way!

Heading up a dept like the DMC is wayyyy beyond that! :-)

Maybe Department of Accelerated Aging to go with the Department of Aging?

:-)

Unfortunately, the future IS here.
It's just "Not the Future We Ordered."

It might be time to reread that one.

Also don't forget :
"It's just unevenly distributed."

'I've seen the future brother, it is _________________...
I'm sure Leonard Cohen had some inside information (no joke).

Is there a way to translate his entries into English? My German is uber rusty...

Definitely noticed a lightening in the weather, or maybe just some beams of light through dark clouds.

NYC and Brooklyn especially feel energetically dead, stick a fork in it, dead. A shadow of its former self. Have to wonder what the paradigm shift could mean for this place. It's been a race to the bottom, that's for sure. Just came across Bobbie Cox's latest fight against Prop 1. Didn't have to read too much to know, vote against that flaming bag of poop.

But what will that get me, voting.

Funny, I have to wonder, as we get closer to that fateful day, maybe just letting go of the anxiety, a 'what will be will be' sensation takes over. I'll do what I can but it's a big tapestry and I'm more of a knot than anything. It makes me laugh.

I forgot where I found or even if I could provide the link now, but I remember coming across a paper about the 250 year limit on empires and how they have consistently fallen around that mark. We're two short years from our founding and 250 years later, and although the empire timeline is up for debate, 1913, 1949, 1963, it's all longer than me, so who knows. Buy the ticket, take the ride.

Mess and all, I'm glad to be an American.

Sounds like you're thinking of "The Fate of Empires" by Sir John Glubb. Readily available as a PDF file.

Are you thinking of Glubb's "The Fate of Empires"?

If so, here is a link to his essay:

https://people.uncw.edu/kozloffm/glubb.pdf

I'm not sure if it is the whole of his work but it is the meat and potatoes of his argument.

Liam in Toronto

I'm glad to be an American, too, and thank you for voting against NY's insanely insane Prop 1.

I would recommend going to your browser's "Help" section and typing in "translating web pages".

Google translate works extremely fast reasonably well, although I know enough German to spot when it makes some wiggy doozies. Just copy-paste and bingo.
https://translate.google.com/

If you're asking about Egon Fischer there is a translation device on his webpage.
Simply highlight a section and right click on your mouse (I have a Mac).
You are offered translation.

The "The Fate of Empires" was exactly what I had in mind, thank you all for the proper direction. The handy little chart at the beginning, should be the foundation of any serious history class.

But who takes history seriously anymore?

Thanks to all on the best way to translate German blogs. Google translate seemed to work best but I truly despise using any of their products.

There must be some kind of way out of here, said the joker to the thief...

If you're feeling rebellious, also give Yandex translate a try. I've been impressed.

https://translate.yandex.com/?source_lang=ger&target_lang=en

Would set you up to translate from German to English, but you can select many source and target languages from a long list, too.

As a search engine, Yandex feels like it behaves much more like the old search engines-- you get many more obscure hits.

Ah.
This jibes with my experience last Sunday when I made my weekly trip an hour and a half later than usual, and the crazies were out in force. Had two close calls with rabid drivers.

OTOH the one 'alive' thing I am experiencing is my Christian radio channel. That music scene is booming with new songs coming out regularly. Taken all together, the "denomination" these songs express is unlike any of Calvinism, Catholicism, or '80's right-wing evangelicalism. It's a new vibe, a lot closer to what Paul taught in Galatians, Corinthians, Romans.

So, dying rotting material piled on top, and an undercurrent of new growth-- may this be JMG's "new religiosity".

- Cicada Grove

Rabid is the right word! :-)

I'm trying to 'hear' or 'picture' what the music is like you are describing.

I started following Egon on your recommendation a while back and have found his observations very interesting. His take certainly helps explain the current weirdness. Although as an American his most recent post left me with a sense of dread. Thank you for the recommendation. If The South does rise again I can just imagine the smile on my now deceased Louisiana native grandmothers face. - Croatoan

A thought just occurred to me regarding the energetic death of The United States. Appalachia holds a place in the American consciousness as sort of the national soul, or something similar. If The United States is indeed dead it kind of makes sense that this would manifest itself in the recent destruction of Appalachia. - Croatoan

Croatoan, Appalachia is a big place seeing as how it runs from Maine through Georgia. Although the situation in NC is horrible, all of Appalachia isn't affected. Up here in North Appalachia the leaves are turning, pumpkins are all over the front porches, and the crowds at the fall festivals are as big as ever. M. Carole

I reckon it is important to have perspective. I’m in N.C. Appalachia so it’s easy to project what’s happening here to the whole. The suicide rate has gone way up. There is definitely a sadness in the air. - Croatoan

I grew up, for a few years anyway, yet it was influential, in the Ozarks and always thought of it as somehow related to Appalachia.

The only energy in Britain today is concentrated in the big Tech hubs, where one senses a great deal of delusional greed, even if just 'greed for knowledge', and the over-full motorways which are roaring away. And the sick energy of consumer adverting, images and music. Construction and house renovation seems also to be an addiction. People can't seem to leave their properties alone.

Bizarrely, the brilliantly marketed Taylor Swift concerts seemed to have a magnetic hypnotising effect on many people, not just young women, who put enormous effort into dressing up in themes.

This is why I've spent walking hills and mountains as far away from the Tech hub where I live, looking at Bronze Age cairns and standing stones.....

This has been a long time a-coming.

Anyone else remember 'American Tune' by Paul Simon?

Don't know about "American Tune," but I know well "America" by Simon and Garfunkel. Nice jolly tune that turns sad in the third verse; very touching.

– Donald C. Hargraves

Having been a wayward wandering youth during the (smashed-up glass windows) era of Simon & Garfunkel's 'America' the song has a special place in my heart.

That song really feels like today.

I don't know a soul who's not been battered,
I don't have a friend who feels at ease.
I don't know a dream that's not been shattered
Or driven to its knees

Oh but it's alright, it's alright
For we've lived so well so long.
Still, when I think of
The road we're travelin on
I wonder what's gone wrong,
I can't help it, I wonder what's gone wrong.

And I dreamed I was dying.
I dreamed that my soul rose unexpectedly,
And looking back down at me
Smiled reassuringly.
And I dreamed I was flying.

And high up above,
My eyes could clearly see
The Statue of Liberty
Sailin away to sea.

And I dreamed I was dying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OEWBq_jzuA

Here's a Bob Dylan interview during which he says his early songs came from somewhere besides him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOas0d-fFK8&t=14s
I also recently read a Paul Simon interview in which he said the same.
Agree Leonard Cohen had some inside info.

Two postscripts: The first one concerns the Soviet Union. I think it was probably actually very close to being energetically dead when Yuri Andropov died in early February of 1984. That was why Mikhail Gorbachev was able to promote his ultimately ill-fated reforms, because so many of the younger communist oligarchs sensed that their system was on the skids in a very big way. The Chernobyl disaster is probably what really drove a stake through the heart of that rotting regime.

And speaking of rotting, incompetent regimes, another scenario I can imagine for the fall of the USA in its current form, is that our political class makes such catastrophic hash of things that the military finally steps in and stages a coup, completing our transformation into socio-political South-America-style "banana republic". It would be after this point that I can imagine regions with their own political will such as Dixie, breaking off and going their own way.

According to a website I visit now and then by a guy who calls himself Rurik Skywalker Andropov was an arch-villian and traitor.

The current solar maximum is feeding into this energetically - has to be e.g. this yesterday on the interplanetary magnetic field:

https://x.com/JPWeiland/status/1844503536790536483

"If this sticks here for the next hour or two we have a May 10th superstorm situation for North America

-40s is nuts"

Personally, I think it's entwined in the current 'enhanced' change were experiencing. For any here of an occult persuasion they'll understand that would mean The Solar Logos is involved and particularly active. I'd guess that works through the other planets but guess yesterday's celestial light-show shows some direct effect. It's especially amusing that it takes a camera with a screen to actually pick up the effect - can't trust your own eyes? 🙃

I should say full effect.

(Yes, this was a jibe at anyone who dismisses the possibility of something existing if not experienced directly ourselves. Though I'd be questioning anything on those screens more and more too. What a planet!)

Just wanted to give a shout out to JMG's "The King in Orange: The Magical and Occult Roots of Political Power". I purchased the book several months ago and just recently got around to reading it. So much of it is relevant to the whole COVID mess (or, more accurately, to the devastating mess created by political/big money/corporate interests and their allies). Reading certain passages is like a light turning on or bells chiming "ding, ding ding!".

Thank you! From my perspective, not much has changed since I wrote it...

Yes, thanks. I found it helpful and sanity-preserving to re-read it a couple of months ago, as I am surrounded by a lot of TDS. (Had to re-purchase, since my original e-book was no longer accessible, but totally worth it.)

Many of you will be aware from my prayer request a week and a half ago that my 24yo (2x jabbed, 3x coofed) daughter has developed a lump in her breast. In addition, she's got a lingering cough from her most recent coof episode in May.

While I was unable to prevent her from getting the injections, she became redpilled shortly thereafter, so she knows that whatever form it comes in, the thing we call CoV is not good. She's aware, to some degree, of the health crisis unfolding... but it's all been very theoretical 'til now (one benefit of not knowing many people, I suppose).

I've spent the last few days compiling information – beginning mostly with VIM, as both a detox and an anticancer option, because that seems to be a promising option for many, many cancers, as well as whatever from the CoV she’s still dealing with. The thing is, it IS chemotherapy (chemical therapy) and the irony that an experimental (in this use) pharmaceutical might be "antidote" to an experimental pharmaceutical’s effects is not lost on me. Yes, it is derived from a soil fungus found in Japan, but it is not a risk-free compound. Then again, using poisons to heal is not new.

I'm just going to do a bit of an info dump here, in case anyone really wants to get into the weeds on VIM. As an aside, I'd like to plug our friend-archivist's periodic updates as the files he uploads are VERY helpful for conducting searches through the body of posts here. So, heaven forbid any of you should need the information I'm linking to, but if you do, being able to locate it quickly might be useful.

Not VIM specific, but certainly including it, there’s the FLCCC protocols of various sorts (prevention, detox, remediation, etc. – of both the illness and the concoction). The last one listed is their cancer-care protocol – they have others for other problems. Obviously this’ll be nothing new to most folks here:

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/I-PREVENT-2024-02-01.pdf

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/I-PREVENT-Vaccine-Injury-Protocol-2023-04-19.pdf

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/I-CARE-Early-COVID-treatment-2024-04-08.pdf

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/MATH-Protocol-1.pdf

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/I-RECOVER-Post-Vaccine-2024-03-01.pdf

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/I-RECOVER-Long-COVID-2024-03-01.pdf

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Cancer-Care-FLCCC-Dr-Paul-Marik-v2.pdf

Now, FLCCC isn’t the end-all-be-all of all of this, but it seems a decent place to start, and is one way I’m bringing info to my kid in a way she can recognize as NOT crackpot.

In a follow-up post I’ll share some links re: VIM and cancer research. In the meantime, I’m trying to figure out side effects, toxicity levels, and whether or not it does affect fertility. In some ways this last concern seems a bit like arguing about a house’s insulation R-value while the house is on fire… but my daughter very much hopes to have children, so this will be a concern.

Hadn't come across VIM before, so a search lead to this https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17971487/ where VIM = etoposide-ifosfamide-methotrexate. Is that what you're referring to?

Anyway for cancer, TTAC i.e. The Truth About Cancer By The Bollingers is a good place to start. They present the natural health options and downsides of the mainstream cancer industry in an easily digestible way.

Also material on Natural News and Brighteon. I'd probably download the latest version of Mike Adam's de-wokified Health AI system and ask that pertinent questions.

All this is highly personal, but I fought like hell to persuade my wife not to get chemo when she had breast cancer. If you dig into the data the odds are not good.

I don't get the logic of poisoning yourself in the hope that the cancer will die before you do and given cancer is an immune system disorder in the first place, how can taking something that stuffs your immune system really help? Sounds much like the COVID vax to me.

Good luck.

No, it's stubborn_ass's way of referring to ivermectin to avoid censorship. Sometimes folks call it IVM...

Yes, the problem IS if it poisons you - ideal to have something that starves (in the case of the metabolic approach) the cancer, via all sorts of pathways... without killing oneself.

Thanks for the resources. I'll look into them.

I usually call ivermectin "the apple-flavored," or just "the horsepaste." I think it could be nice to call it Ivory Mountain. Ivan Moscow. I've ermine tin. VIM, that's cool, too.

Nom du jour: Scarlet Skipperkee Ouroboros

I’m so sorry to hear about your daughter Temporary, I missed your early post about this. Best wishes to you and her in discovering what heals and nourishes her system back to health. Tamar

I say the same. May she be healed.

So sorry I missed your earlier post about this,

temporaryreality. I could easily find myself in the same unpleasant situation (a kid in the prime of life, bullied into getting multiple jabs. But so far, just vague complaints, nothing diagnosed.) Also an older relative with possible prostate cancer.

I will add you to my prayer list, and really appreciate your assembling all the references-- God forbid they are ever needed, but it will be less nerve-wracking to have them in a crunch.

*Ochre Harebrained Curmudgeon*

I did note with interest a recent article on a mainstream news site, fox I believe, about Elle McPherson, who had breast cancer and sought alternative holistic treatments and is now cancer free. The article was very fair without criticism of her choice. I thought that this was significant as I’ve never seen an article in the mainstream that considers the possibility that cancer could be cured in other ways besides the chemo/surgery/radiation approach. Looking back for the article now, I found a whole slew of articles critical of her approach and calling it dangerous despite the fact that it worked for her. Tamar

Hi all-

I would like to encourage everyone to read Paul Marik's FLCCC Cancer Care PDF cited above about the use of repurposed compounds for the treatment of cancer. I read the first edition and took a trip through the second edition and it has a ton of great info that might help reduce one's risk of getting cancer in the first place. Many compounds that many of us are probably taking for other reasons such as Vitamin D, curcumin, berberine, green tea and others are mentioned. This new version also discusses why the vaxxed might be getting more turbo cancers.

Definitely worth a read. As with all things medical, your mileage may vary. The usual disclaimers apply.

MJ from MA

A huge yes to Dr. Marik's book.

Thank you to each of you who've offered your prayers and kindness. And yes, we need flashier code names for these terms. Fun ones, wacky ones, cosmic oom ones. Because my goodness the gaslighting and name-calling and censoring are real.

Kiddo also pointed out that while the shots and the coof are certainly suspect, she's also cognizant of the fact that she granted uninformed consent for hormonal birth control for 6 years. She later found out it's a class 1 carcinogen. So, there's that.

Frankly we're in toxic stew of our own making; poor bodies are trying desperately to manage the onslaught.

We're going to try some of the novel things and get back to you on it.

Meanwhile, I'm behind in the paid work, will do that for a bit, but then be back with some interesting links.

I send my deepest heartfelt wishes for your daughter's healing and your strength and wellbeing. Thank you for sharing this.

I just created a new page on my website where I've uploaded chapter 9 of a 2022 book called Drug Repurposing: Molecular Aspects and Therapeutic Applications.

Chapter 9 is on ivermectin.

The entire book is available as an open-source publication, but you have to request specific chapters directly from the publisher. I did so (by registering) and to save anyone else the hassle, have decided to host it. It is a concise summary of the mechanisms by which the drug does what it does.

https://www.mimeographrevival.com/grab-bag/

In addition, here are some of what I found in my search. I intentionally chose a date range of 2000-2019 because I wanted to see what people were researching/writing about before "vitamin I" became a household word in the US.

The following articles are purchasable or available through an academic institution. Their titles and abstracts tell a story, however. I may track down one or two, but haven't bothered to make the trip to the local uni at this point:

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00280-023-04589-6 (Ivermectin induces nonprotective autophagy by downregulating PAK1 and apoptosis in lung adenocarcinoma cells)
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/jnr.25254 (Ivermectin as a potential therapeutic strategy for glioma)

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0006291X16317429?via%3Dihub (Anthelmintic drug ivermectin inhibits angiogenesis, growth and survival of glioblastoma through inducing mitochondrial dysfunction and oxidative stress)
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0014299904004388?via%3Dihub (Avermectins inhibit multidrug resistance of tumor cells)
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0006291X18302869 (Antibiotic ivermectin selectively induces apoptosis in chronic myeloid leukemia through inducing mitochondrial dysfunction and oxidative stress)
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0006291X1731656X (Antibiotic ivermectin preferentially targets renal cancer through inducing mitochondrial dysfunction and oxidative damage)
https: //link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00210-009-0483-z (Ivermectin is a nonselective inhibitor of mammalian P-type ATPases)

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0006291X1731656X (Antibiotic ivermectin preferentially targets renal cancer through inducing mitochondrial dysfunction and oxidative damage)
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00280-020-04041-z Antitumor effects of ivermectin at clinically feasible concentrations support its clinical development as a repositioned cancer drug

Below is a list of a quick sampling of what's out there on vimvim re: cancer. These articles are open-source and available for full-copy access:

Again, one or two might've slipped in from 2020 and beyond, but the majority are pre-2020.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/epdf/10.1080/15548627.2016.1231494 (Ivermectin induces PAK1-mediated cytostatic autophagy in breast cancer)

https://aacrjournals.org/mct/article/14/8/1824/130583/Selective-Inhibition-of-SIN3-Corepressor-with Selective Inhibition of SIN3 Corepressor withAvermectins as a Novel Therapeutic Strategy in Triple-Negative Breast Cancer

https://aacrjournals.org/cancerres/article/76/15/4457/613862/Ivermectin-Induces-Cytostatic-Autophagy-by Ivermectin Induces Cytostatic Autophagy by Blocking the PAK1/Akt Axis in Breast Cancer

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5835698/ The multitargeted drug ivermectin: from an antiparasitic agent to a repositioned cancer drug

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/jnr.25254 Ivermectin as a potential therapeutic strategy for glioma

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5746098/pdf/oncotarget-08-107666.pdf Antitumor effects of the antiparasitic agent ivermectin via inhibition of Yes-associated protein 1 expression in gastric cancer
https://www.spandidos-publications.com/10.3892/mmr.2017.8231 Ivermectin as an inhibitor of cancer stem‑like cells

https://www.dovepress.com/article/download/51304 Progress in Understanding the Molecular Mechanisms Underlying the Antitumour Effects of Ivermectin

https://www.dovepress.com/inhibition-of-yes-associated-protein-1-yap1-enhances-the-response-of-i-peer-reviewed-fulltext-article-BCTT Inhibition of Yes-Associated Protein-1 (YAP1) Enhances the Response of Invasive Breast Cancer Cells to the Standard Therapy

https://ashpublications.org/blood/article/116/18/3593/27970/The-antiparasitic-agent-ivermectin-induces The antiparasitic agent ivermectin induces chloride-dependent membrane hyperpolarization and cell death in leukemia cells

https://www.nature.com/articles/srep16222 Modulation of P2X4/P2X7/Pannexin-1 sensitivity to extracellular ATP via Ivermectin induces a non-apoptotic and inflammatory form of cancer cell death

"Magnesium's Crucial Role in Cellular Energy Production Revealed" :https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2024/10/07/magnesium-cellular-energy-production.aspx

For anyone dealing with health issues, COVID vax-related or not, this might help.

Also, down the bottom of the article Mercola talks about his new book:
The Revolutionary Path to Healing and Longevity
"Your Guide to Cellular Health: Unlocking the Science of Longevity and Joy" is not just a manual — it's your passport to a revolution in personal wellness.

This comprehensive guide will empower you with life-changing knowledge to help unlock your body's innate healing abilities and achieve lasting vitality. This isn't about quick fixes or temporary solutions. It's about fundamentally transforming your health at its very foundation — your cells.

Story at-a-glance
Magnesium is essential for cellular energy production, acting as a molecular choreographer in the adenylate kinase (AK) enzyme, aligning molecules for optimal ATP generation

Research reveals magnesium increases enzyme flexibility, allowing AK to open and close more efficiently during energy production, enhancing overall cellular energy metabolism

Magnesium's role in mitochondrial function is crucial, with over a third of cellular magnesium located in these energy-producing organelles, directly impacting ATP synthesis

Magnesium acts as a natural anti-inflammatory agent, suppressing inflammatory cytokines and activating antioxidant defenses, reducing the risk of age-related diseases

Magnesium improves insulin sensitivity and glucose metabolism, aiding weight management and reducing the risk of Type 2 diabetes. Various foods and supplementation methods are available to optimize intake

I started taking magnesium L-threonate recently after reading about magnesium's role in brain health. The results seem to be good so far.

"No one seems to care that the fully vaccinated are dying. What a weird time to be alive."

https://x.com/JonelessHomes/status/1843378224224710867

I hear you. Mega weird.

Yep. Leslie Nielson, 'Nothing to see here, move along.'

So, there was COVID.

Which gave us warp speed, masking (talk to somebody who does asbestos abatement about whether a mask attached to the ears can do what they told us they could) and arbitrary distancing.

What followed was a new President (JMG, you made the comment at the time that if Dems owned the vaccine and it went badly...) with mRNA vaccines.

Reports began to appear of SAE's (serious adverse events), which the media called "conspiracy theories".

But the hits kept on coming, women's periods, died suddenly, athletic heart attacks, youth heart attacks, turbo cancer... etc etc.

THEN February of 2021 (when the media was looking REALLY bad regarding COVID) RUSSIA, in an "UNPROVOKED" attack... Somebody at the time (I can't find the link) said President Putin should be awarded the Nobel Prize in Medicine for curing COVID overnight. And, remember, all talk in the media switched to our glorious war against, I think we're on... (Switching rationales get tuff to remember), let's go with Authoritarianism, No, No Autocratic governments.

Now, our "Glorious War with WHATEVER" has not gone well. If you have been paying attention it has NEVER gone well but it has been going.
Recently “The Media” has noticed (apparently much against its will) that Ukraine is in deep dodo.

MEANWHILE: More and more information about the mRNA vaccines and their side effects has been dribbling out. Even a brief perusal of this series of threads demonstrates that. Additionally, the broader public seems to be getting some of this information, not a lot mind you but some.

For example, Oct 8th 2024 Dr John Campbell (if you don’t watch him on YT you should) put out a video called “Changing Views” about a paper that concludes that economics and social pressure NOT science was the reasons for the above. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGVaXousYNI

So more info getting out, more conclusions (in public, if limitedly so) it was incompetence and greed. So far So JMG.

Now what else has been going on? About the time the media seemed to notice Ukrain was in the dodo (publicly noticed) all the sudden a certain Middle eastern American proxy starts a NEW effort to bomb women and children. Which OF COURSE draws ALL of the media attention.

My hypothesis: Covid, “The Opportunity”

1. Make our donors rich with Government money (warp Speed).
2. Grab more power and control (Censorship, every petty bureaucrat making new rules etc).
3. Get the platform (mRNA) out of the lab so we can clean up $$$.
4. Next power grab, mandate shot uptake. This is a twofer as 1. herd the sheep, 2. ALSO make LOTS of money for our donors.
5. Opps!!!! There was a reason mRNA never got out of the lab… such as complete and total failure in animal testing.
6. OH SH**!!!!! People are asking questions about what WE did and what WE made them do to have food, shelter and clothing.
7. OH F***!!!! Quick start a war or something. Yeah, that’s the ticket torque off Russia, yeah that'll do it, and we can “break them up” and steal their stuff at the same time. Nobody likes them dirty orcs anyway.
8. Time…
9. Well SH** that Russian thing ain’t working. We’re incompetent! What did you expect? But what the heck Raytheon etc. made a bunch of money so…
10. Oh Right, people are STILL talking about Covid (see current 166th thread) we need something else…
11. Well, we got the GAZA thing, we’re starting to look the genociders we are, maybe, I don’t know, let’s start another, actually, unprovoked attack in Lebanon, maybe start a war with Iran. Sure, that’s the ticket. What could go wrong?

MEANWHILE

All cause deaths are still up and in some cases increasing.
Kids are still dying suddenly
We seem to be having another round of turbo cancer.
And currently people are getting sick AGAIN with covid.

TL,DR:
The war with Russia was started to get covid out of the discussion space.
We’re losing (and have been since the beginning) in Ukraine so we need something else big to distract attention so lets start a Middle East conflagration to take up the news cycle.

BECAUSE: If the greater population of the west realizes what was done to them via Covid there is not one of their governments that can stand the anger and outrage and they know it. And yes, I’m talking pitchforks and nooses.

Listen, look somebody in the eye and tell them that they got their kids a shot to protect them because “The Experts” said to and then it turns out they were KNOWING giving out poison and see what kind of reaction you get.

Anyway, JMG, Thoughts?

~Wolf

Feb 2022, not 2021.

Sorry 2022 for Russian invasion.

Interesting. I seem to remember, though, that the attack on civilians on Oct 7th, 2023, was not launched by Israel, but by Hamas. On Israeli civilians. I guess they were partying offensively...

Your thinking of Hamas attacking Israel. on Oct 7th last year.

I'm talking about recent decision to begin killing Hezbollah (COMPLETELY different group) and therefore Lebanese.

For example:
"Benjamin Netanyahu has issued a statement addressed to the Lebanese people telling them that they need to somehow defeat Hezbollah in order to “save Lebanon before it plunges into the abyss of a long war that will lead to destruction and suffering like we see in Gaza.”

https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/slaughter-in-gaza-and-lebanon-as

~Wolf

Yes, and Putin invaded Ukraine in Feb 2022, because nothing happened before. Putin is the bad guy :)

Sarcasm aside, prior to Oct 7th, Israelis started their "Temple Mount" operation with the ultimate goal of destroying Al Aqsa mosque. Hamas action was a continuation of that.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/4/israeli-settlers-storm-al-aqsa-mosque-complex-on-fifth-day-of-sukkot

A lot of people claim there was a coup in Kiev & Ukraine in 2014 and video footage shows Victoria Nuland handing out cookies (was that before or after the snipers?) but anyway I'm sure none of that happened and yes nothing happened before Feb., 2022.

So it's okay when Hamas kills civilians, because they were provoked, but it's not okay when Israel kills civilians and tries to bring home the ones who were taken hostage after the Oct 7th massacre.
Okay.
But this is going way off topic, so I won't say anything more about it.

May I interject something?

It does not matter in the least what is "okay," if you mean what is or isn't morally justifiable. Morality plays no role in the decisions of governments or in the flow of historical events. One thing happens, and therefore another thing happens: that's the nature of events, and (unless I'm quite mistaken) that's what OP is talking about.

I grant that I may have misread OP's intent (and btw, I fully agree with your point here) and may have reacted to the general sentiment that Israel is the genocidal villain in this conflict that I've seen often enough since the latest escalation. This can quickly develop into a drawn-out political debate, and I've had my fair share of those on political forums, where I learned that nobody is ever interested in gaining a new perspective on anything, so I'm generally no longer interested in wasting my time in this way. I guess OP's post was the one too many that seemed to point the finger at Israel, at which point I sighed, rolled my eyes, and typed "seriously?" in so many words🙂.

I'm glad to see that what happened on Temple Mount in October 5 has not been wholly lost from view. From the Muslim POV, that was an enormous provocation.

'Sort of but not totallty.'
Lots of tricky-dicky behind the scenes stuff.
LIHOP (Let it happen on purpose) or MIHOP (Make it happen on purpose)...
Then once it started some new unidentified figures carried out 'actions...'
oddly they all had the same coloured shirts but not same style, brand, etc...
The Fog of War
is
a dry ice machine for clever belligerents.

BTW I've always liked the image you use in your profile.

Death and War Profit$ Galore!

Not a bad hypothesis. Ukraine got going just as what the Canadian Truckers started was getting traction around the world.

I'd like to believe Joe Public is slowly waking up, but they're pretty heavily brainwashed into submission, whatever their Governments do. To generalise, most would rather believe the narrative than confront a nasty, threatening reality and anyway they're scrambling to pay their bills, so they don't have much time to think.

I don't think the US/Globalist crowd cares if they win or lose wars, so long as they make money. Who remembers, or cares now about the humiliation in Afghanistan? 20 years, $2T+, kerching!

Ukraine will likely be an even bigger humiliation, but the brown paper bags are already filled. Israel will probably lose too, but the $$ will still be recirculated through AIPAC.

Gaza has been a big awakening moment for many though. The blatant genocide is impossible to justify, or ignore.

Mind you, the current COVID vax death toll estimate by CHD's Chief Scientific Officer is 15.3million, so that's way beyond Ukraine and Gaza.

On dark days I wonder if it's all kabuki theatre anyway, given Russia has a central bank and the bankers ultimately control most things.

I have been idealistic over & over and always been disappointed.
Anything 'official' is most-likely suspect.
Anything 'high profile' is most likely secretly promoted & orchestrated by 'official' sources of the darkest nature.

And now we live in 24/7 psy-ops, rope-a-dope dipsy-doodle bs, mind control, cultural engineering, etc...
It's Edward Bernays' world and we just live in it, lol...

Just to add to this a 'Yes, but...' caveat.

There are many empowering things one can practice to be steadfast

and if one decides to 'go down swinging' one might hit a home run.

So, WOW.

I wrote a post with a hypothesis about "The West" using war and genocide to cover up the covid disaster and almost EVERY post was about those wars not that they maybe/are being used to cover up the damage done by the "covid incident."

One post was, so thank you.

But really. those were meant as examples, how did they become the topic?

JMG, i think i begin to understand your rules (particularly regarding off topic) for the first time.

Is it me or is this what happens each time there is a issue that may not make somebody look good so people pile on and sidetrack so "uncomfortable truths" don't have to be discussed?

Personally i felt that examples were necessary to make the point of the timing, but i guess i should leave them out and make declarative statements such as: "The West is using the war in Ukraine and Israel to cover up the Covid disaster the West made."

That does not to me sound like the kind of forum this is supposed to be and well reasoned arguments like the initial hypothesis are one offs.

Or maybe I'm just a whiner. Could go either way :-)

~Wolf

Yeah, I noticed that too. People these days are heavily programmed to approach any conflict in exaggeratedly Tolkienesque terms -- thus we have one group of people shrieking about how the Palestinians are evil incarnate and the Israelis are sinless innocents, and another group shrieking just as loudly that the opposite is true. That both the Palestinians and Israelis are bengaging in atrocities, and insisting that their human rights abuses don't matter because of the other side's human right's abuses, never gets into the discussion -- even though that's what's going on, of course. In the meantime, subtler points like yours -- that conflicts abroad can be used, and are used, by domestic politicians to try to distract attention from the consequences of their mistakes here at home -- go unnoticed by most.

You know? I wonder why/how "go unnoticed by most. "
willful? inability to think subtlety? Unwillingness to look at implications and possible culpability (my guess)?

Anyway Thanks.

~Wolf

As I see it, there are at least two factors here. First of all, training/programming people to drop immediately into bickering over who are the good guys/bad guys is a great way to keep them from going any deeper and asking any inconvenient questions. Once those hyperpartisan emotions enter the discussion, the capacity to process information turns off and the result is the kind of angry emoting and circular rhetoric we're all so tired of watching.

Beyond that, though, there's a deeper factor. This happens in the life of every civilization. There's always an age of reason, but it always terminates itself in exactly this way as reason drowns in its own waste products, and angry bickering over abstract categorizations takes the place of meaningful thought about what's actually happening. Giambattista Vico called the result "the barbarism of reflection," and we're deep in it right now.

Perhaps. Just maybe. There are no heroes in this story, only villains.

"Heroes" and "villains" are both narrative constructs borrowed from fiction. There are no heroes or villains in the real world, just human beings.

Yes, indeed. I just read ‘sand talk,’ twice!, on the recommendation of another poster, and the author says the same thing in another way. He tells a story with turtle and echidna in which echidna is the villain. After the story he adds ‘but echidna is only the villain during the events of this story. After he is punished, he doesn’t hold onto that guilt, and others don’t hold blame for him. They let it go, and he lets it go, learns from his mistakes and becomes something wonderful’. I loved this book, and noted frequent parallels to your ideas. Tamar

before covid you could have tempted me with logic, popular narrative, and right and wrong.

At this point, the politics, the nostalgia, the whateverexcuse...is irrelevant.

You are either blood, a countryman (by blood not paper), or I have no phecks to give.
I really care not. enough of my own blood, and my families blood has been spilt in the past 3 years that I have nothing left. I don't care. And the more any special category cries out in pain as they lash out and do worse than I have ever read in ww1 or 2...

It is coming to light and I won't speak of it again on this forum.
rq

There is a song that goes 'There goes my hero....' which they played over the loudspeaker at a Trump rally when RFK jr. came out to endorse Trump. I felt tears & emotions & hope and realized I was being manipulated by some clever strategist. The MAGA people (Mr. & Mrs. NOT drag queen at Sunday School - who I think of as mostly meaning well but not exactly The Founding Fathers...) went all delirious with hope.

Your point, that these wars are intended to spin our attention this way and that seems pretty darn accurate. I would add that they are also intended to keep us divided and squabbling amongst ourselves. As demonstrated, any mention of any of those wars derails any other thought process. Everyone has to take the opportunity to declare "the truth" and rail against anyone whose interpretation differs.

I have noticed recently that it's not uncommon for conversations to get side tracked into discussion of the examples. I don't remember if it was always like that but I find myself saying "Yes, but the point . . ." more frequently these days.

Thank you.
A second post regarding my hypothesis.

JMG excepted.

~Wolf

I'm actually afraid to tell somebody what they did to their kids. Not afraid they will 'take it out on me' but afraid to push them into that harrowing realization. Maybe I'm 'codependent' I don't know.

How though do you walk that back? That guilt.

Me, I wouldn't say anything to a parent, unless they directly, genuinely, and insistently asked me. (Newsflash to self: don't think that's ever going to happen.)

Much as it pains me, much as I think their getting their kids injected was an appalling mistake, and that they could have and should have asked more questions and done whatever, literally whatever they needed to do in order to avoid injecting the kids with this EUA gene juice, I stand back because parents' choices about their children's medical care are the parents' to make. Other than my spouse's, and those individuals under my direct care, other people's personal medical histories are not my business.

That said, I do what I can with my transcripts and leaving literature here & there. And I have posted many transcripts of doctors, nurses, and others speaking out against jabbing the kids, and also of parents speaking out about their childrens' deaths and injuries following the covid jabs.

The people who are open to data and information other than what they get spoon-fed on TV, and who are genuinely asking even the most basic questions, I trust they will find what they need to find (perhaps one of my transcripts, more likely something else) without overmuch ado. After all, RFK Jr's book, THE REAL ANTHONY FAUCI, totally and throughly and very deliberately ignored by the mainstream media, has sold over a million copies. There is now a whole library's worth of counter-narrative books that one can easily download or, as a paperback, get shipped from amazon.com or from any one or many other online booksellers. Plus there are a gazillion Substacks and bitchute and odysee and rumble videos, and avalanches of counter-narrative info on "X."

The people who don't want to know, they won't ask questions, they won't look for data and information, and well, they get their karma with that. It's theirs.

But what do I know of other peoples' karma? I actually think it's beyond my currently incarnated human ability to see more than a micro-slice of someone else's karma.

As for their possibly crushing feelings of guilt: My view is, sad as it may be, that's their problem to grapple with, and to come to terms with, if they can. Some can. Some probably can't.

I don't think anyone gets through even kindergarten without having done something they regret. Learning to cope with regret and guilt is part of life. As life goes on, it presents one with more opportunities to do stuff one will regret and feel guilty about. One learns to avoid those actions, or, sometimes, alas, one doesn't. Seems to me it's better to learn the easy way (see other people do stupid shale, then, don't do that) and when not (oops, big mistake), learn to make it right, learn to avoid in in the future, learn to come to terms with feelings about it, and learn to forgive oneself.

We're all on the learning curve in life, and maybe it's not where we think we are.

Thanks for the prompt to order my thoughts on this subject.

I should add, I don't have grandkids; if I did, in 2021-2022 I would have urged the parents to avoid jabbing the kids. But I know that many grandparents did that and it made no difference, such was the madness.

Thank you for this prism-like approach to the subject.
I'll just tell myself I instinctively 'knew' a few of the things you explore. :-)

My siblings have never asked me a single question but sure had fun mocking the Canadian truckers
from a PMC perspective.

We're all on the learning curve in life, and maybe it's not where we think we are.
I think this is without a doubt true.

with this: "Thanks for the prompt to order my thoughts on this subject."

You have fulfilled my greatest wish. Real thought. the greatest thing we have to offer.

~Wolf

EXACTELY!!!!!!

They/we cannot face that guilt. Which was my point. the events are just cover to keep us bickering and not focusing on the ACTUAL issue.

~Wolf

Great comment and thoughts Wolf.

Just like New Zealand, an alarming increase in people going to hospital with chest pains after the rollout of covid “vaccines” is reported in Australia

https://expose-news.com/2024/10/09/alarming-increase-in-chest-pains-in-australia/

Flight From Seattle to Istanbul Makes Emergency Landing in New York After Pilot Dies Mid-Flight

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/flight-seattle-istanbul-makes-emergency-landing-new-york/

And they want to get rid of that second pilot.

That New Zealand navy captain (who sank her ship in coral) might be open to a retraining program.

If you posted a question for me to ask my Tarot about, they are up and posted.

If you would like to ask a question on how to navigate the fast moving situations around us, or inspect what the astral weather around you has to say, feel free to put a comment and I'll reply to you within 2-3 days of posting, free of charge.

Divination Offering

German MEP Christine Anderson:
"Well, let me start with the last part of your question. Who was doing that? I have no clue. I don't know. I know who it isn't. It isn't Klaus Schwab. I mean, he's hanging his face in the camera and just advocating for that nonsense. So it's not him pulling the strings and calling the shots. It's not Ursula von der Leyen either. It's not even Joe Biden. I mean, they're all puppets of whoever is running the show and pulling the strings and calling the shots. And who these people are, I don't know. I really don't know. Why are they doing that? Well, I mean, and by the way, it did not start with COVID. It was just the last three years have made it abundantly clear how far they are willing to go. And that was really, they overstepped in a way that I would have never thought possible, at least not for another 10, 20 years to come. So what have we seen? Well, fundamental rights are now privileges that the government can grant or withhold, depending on the behavior of a citizen. And yeah, it did, I mean, we were all turned from citizens, free citizens in free democratic societies, we have become reps to society. And it was up to us to prove that we were not a threat. And we had to do that by having these PCR tests done. So I mean, this is a complete, in a democracy, the government has to prove that the citizen has done something wrong, not the other way around. The government has to prove that a citizen is possibly a threat to society, not the other way around. But this happened. So, but like I said, it did not start with this whole pandemic. But a lot of people realized how very determined they are in, yeah, what I think is will be the end game here to erect a totalitarian surveillance police state."

https://nitter.poast.org/newstart_2024/status/1844079715969056958#m

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Georgia Environment Official Dies Moments After Testifying Against Chemical Giant Following Hazardous Fire at Their Plant

from article:

The medical examiner said that due to the circumstances of the incident, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation has agreed to accept the case. A cause of death is still pending, as an autopsy needs to be completed.

https://www.ibtimes.sg/georgia-environment-official-dies-moments-after-testifying-against-chemical-giant-following-76396

and here is the thread i saw it in:

https://nitter.poast.org/TheInsiderPaper/status/1844086168499126637#m

Georgia sounds all shadowy like an Orson Welles film.

California Reports 3rd Possible Case Of Human Bird Flu

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/california-reports-3rd-possible-case-human-bird-flu

"possible"

As usual, this "possible case of bird flu" was conjunctivitis in somebody who hasn't been around birds. Which is to say, it's a confirmed case of BS.

In the earlier post, Wolff wrote about how one newsworthy event (mass vaccination and its side effects) got memory-holed by another one ("nasty dictator Putler invades the free world") and then another one ("subhuman Palestinians attack our friend in the Middle East").

I think the discussion missed one important piece. Israel was the earliest and biggest supporter of lockdown + covid vaccine. Many slides in the FDA safety panels cited Israeli data. I remember Israel was also the first country to push for boosters, and then Pfizer used their data to promote it for the rest of the world.

I am wondering whether any data exists on the vaxx side effects in Israel. I see excess death stats from all places except Israel, and hear almost nothing covid-related from that country. Anyone here follows the local Israeli news sources?

Also, does anyone know why gilad atzmon went quiet since 2022?

Howdy Wolf here.

Didn't miss the point. Was irrelevant to the thesis/hypothesis I was making.

Whereas I think you raise another, separate and VERY interesting question.

~Wolf

Thanks Wolf ! Apologies for adding two fs in the name. It was from the silliest of reasons. I left my reading glasses somewhere else and saw double letters.

Also, I found Gilad Atzmon after looking around. It seems he stopping updating his blog and moved to instagram/twitter instead.

no blood, no foul.

:-)

~Wolf

I come across bit and pieces of Israeli data from time to time.

The only thing that caused me to raise my eyebrows was data showing that unlike all other highly foxxed countries, Israel's birth rate has increased rather than decreased in recent years. Sorry, I don't have the data handy...

Ron M

I will never forget the vaxx advert which featured Bibi talking to a man in a dinosaur costume assuring him the vaxxes were 'safe and fully approved by the US FDA'. The dinosaur was impressed.

Somebody should make a video of the tele-tubbies in gaza pushing the fox, just total head-scratching stuff.

you know, as a 'public service.'

I mentioned a couple of weeks ago to keep an eye on general hospital admissions and overall pressure on health services. Any increased health issues due to the jabs/virus interplay will not be obvious from here on in.

Current state of UK National Health Service is not good and we have not even hit any kind of cold weather yet:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/health/30998470/nhs-winter-crisis-warning-bad-shape-delays-waiting-list/

'THE NHS is “in bad shape for winter”, experts warn as figures show A&E departments are busier than ever.

The Royal College of Nursing said the health service is “hurtling towards another winter crisis”.'

More evidence of this is from my local paper here in the East Midlands of England - my hospital trust has announced 'a critical incident' with the incident being they're too busy to cope:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/other/critical-incident-declared-at-leicester-hospitals-due-to-significant-pressure/ar-AA1rXh5t

"Leicester hospitals have declared a critical incident this morning (Wednesday, October 9). The declaration means people should only attend A&E for conditions that are life-threatening and cannot be treated by other means, such as by calling 111, and that some patients will experience longer-than-expected delays in receiving attention."

Not looking good for the winter here - how's it looking in your neck of the woods?

Edited (Over announcement) 2024-10-10 17:58 (UTC)

Ah the dear old Royal Coll of Nursing that was 100% pro-Covid vaxxes.
People you can trust....

I was, until yesterday, in a very small provincial town in Wales, while tramping about the hills along Bronze Age trackways looking a cairns.

My local contacts told me that a wave of illness is going through the over-65's with a very high percentage catching 'flu immediately after their free flu shots, which started at the end of last week.

So many more, in fact, than in previous years that it's a hot topic of conversation and alarm. Hmm.

Thank God they got those shots or it might have been worse!

Was that Lampeter?

Thanks for this.

Sadly, sounds about right.

Oct. 9, 2024: Martha Jane Howe, a fully vaccinated music & voice teacher from Grossmont College, collapsed and #DiedSuddenly from a pulmonary aneurysm. The awful part is she was right in the middle of teaching a classroom full of students when she died.

https://nitter.poast.org/JonelessHomes/status/1844392373473923168#m

I was trying to find a thread into the the summer 2019 pact demonic hypothesis.

And just accidentally or should I say synchronistically stumbled on this subject and I wanted to ask the very informed readers of this open thread what do they think of...

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Tracy_Twyman

I remember this feeling in May/June 2019 is like the moment that we passed through a window where all the conspiracies on the internet were more like a woo, woo filled feeling... and now some of them are filled with the terror of immediacy.

Archivist here.

First, I will try to make an archive next Tuesday.

Second, Internet Archive has been down since yesterday:
https://archive.org

So, to all Cultural Conservers out-there this is my messageŁ try to have you own stash or data-bases, don't rely on public services. Owning a PC, or several is still a good idea while there is still power.
CPUs are not that advanced so an old PC from 2012 with an i7 (Sandybridge), is still pretty good for today and probably is under $20-$30 or around that.

Third the need to have a P2P in case Cloud and Data Centers go down...

Internet the networking part is several orders of magnitude more resilient than the data centers or the cloud. If there is someone technical that can have an idea on which P2P (peer to peer) platform can be used. And in what way.

U.S. D.O.D issued contract for C-19 Research to a company in Ukraine, 3 months before C-19 was known to exist

https://expose-news.com/2024/10/10/u-s-d-o-d-issued-contract-for-c-19-research-to-a-company-in-ukraine-3-months-before-c-19-was-known-to-exist/

“Moderna takes aim at COVID-induced loneliness in new campaign for updated vaccines”

https://dailyclout.io/moderna-takes-aim-at-covid-induced-loneliness-in-new-campaign-for-updated-vaccines/

“Reporter resigns after Minnesota newspaper refuses COVID vax injury story”

https://dailyclout.io/reporter-resigns-after-minnesota-newspaper-refuses-covid-vax-injury-story/

The government knew 18 years ago that flu shots didn’t work for the elderly

https://x.com/RepThomasMassie/status/1844548036682211578

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things hit home