ecosophia | Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 159

Thank you JMG for continuing these open post and to the commentariat for the wealth of information contributed.

I have continued my series on natural supports for strong immunity with a post on sunshine. You can find it here: https://claire-58.dreamwidth.org/7523.html

If you have a better understanding or more information that could be useful please do comment. I'm always happy to expand my knowledge.
My suggestions may not be workable for everybody. I live in a cold temperate climate with a short summer and a rainy overcast winter. If you are in a different part of the world I'd love to hear your strategies for managing your sun exposure.
EC

I'm in the subtropical area of the south (US).

Sun exposure is more of something that we try to avoid, though somewhat inevitable. I always try to get 5-10 minutes shirtless after playing soccer before heading to the shade to cool.

Always get sunburned face no matter when we start playing Sunday mornings... sunscreen helps to keep it to a minimum, but my face is peeling off by Tuesday either way. Just a matter of degree.

I know the sub-tropics present a very different challenge than the PNW where I live.

You might want to consider keeping a tube of aloe vera gel in your kit and slathering it on your face immediately after you play and then again in an hour or two or even daily for the few days afterward.
We can buy a topical use 99% pure aloe vera gel in a tube similar to a toothpaste tube here. The brand name on mine is "Lily of the Desert." You may be able to find something similar there.

Edited (clarity) 2024-08-21 21:15 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice! I have homegrown aloe but for some reason it never crossed my mind to use it.

Jed

Even better.

What are you doing playing soccer instead of football in the deep south?

Sorry for the double post, but it's jed.

I keep a sunhat I bought for $15 at Wal-mart by the door, next to the gardening gloves. When I have to work outside beating the vegetation back, on goes the hat, on go the gloves and if I'm mowing, on goes the breathing mask. If it's Roundup Time, on go the long pants, I swap nitrile gloves in and everything goes straight into the washer when I get back in with me going straight to the shower.

Everything else, I let bake in the sun. Arms, knees, hands, legs. By September I have quite the farmer tan going.

And this is all happening in the deep south. People complain about the sun around here but honestly, Arizona is way more brutal when it comes to getting cooked by the sun.

In any case, getting too little sun isn't the problem down here.

Has anyone done a deep dive on the effects of the Covid scamdemic on population, particularly that of metropolitan areas? I was looking at the population of certain U.S. cities and there has been a remarkable decline since 2020.

The population of Boston decreased by 3.7% (from 675,647 to 650,706) between 2020 and 2022 (I have not seen more recent data than that); the first decrease since the 1980s.

The population of New York City also decreased for the first time since the 1980s by 6.2% between 2020 and 2023.

And the population of Los Angeles decreased by 2.0% in the same time frame, which incredibly appears to be the first time its population has decreased in its entire history.

I'm sure there are many factors for this trend, such as the sharp increase in costs of living, but given the time frame I have to assume that some of the decline is due to Covid as well. I myself moved in early 2021 as a direct result of the Covid insanity, and know many others who moved around the same time for primarily the same reason.

I suppose there are many things to take away from this trend; in a general sense, less congestion is surely a good thing, as is a decrease in excessively high economic demand. Although I suspect some of this decline falls under the umbrella of "brain drain," and I have to wonder about the quality of people leaving these urban areas versus the quality of people remaining. And whither exactly are the former going? And what effects are they having on their new communities? It all begs a lot of questions...

Asking the really uncomfortable questions, what is the half-life of a city's population with a decay rate of 6.2%?

Good question. L.A. could be a ghost town within a century, if the current trend continues, although I suspect it will level off at some point to a much less unsustainable level. Although I wonder what sort of people will remain there. The terms eloi and morlock come to mind.

" . . . it will level off at some point to a much less unsustainable level."

But when and at what level? That part of California was pretty sparsely populated pre-contact compared to the Pacific Northwest and the people there were much poorer. With out industrial water systems and abundant energy that part of the coast doesn't support much life.

Real estate prices are set at the margin. It doesn't take much of a selling trend to start a price collapse.

Birth rates in all Western countries is way below replacement. That's one of the major reasons for immigration. South Korea is the worst right now.

That trend started well before COVID.

I think Myriam's post at the end of the last thread is worth highlighting.

https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/292491.html?thread=50584203#cmt50584203

Her question... is mon[k]eypox being positioned to be a pox on money (at least in the form of cash)?

I too have been expecting something to make people averse to using cash, and to make them plunge willingly into full digitalisation.

There seems to be quite a few people who tap, tap, tap with debit or credit cards. It didn't take much of a push; the convenience is seductive.

Personally, since I'm not the kind of person who makes budgets or keeps track of receipts, using cash keeps me within my spending limits. Or at least, keeps me aware of the limits. Generally if I find myself short I can easily cast my mind back to the expenses of the last couple of weeks and see where I splurged or if there was an unusual expense. That's way easier than tracking electronic transactions.

I would just like to say my heart is heavy this week...

After seeing yet another... one more, of so many, many more... young person who is not yet 18, and is already taking several long-term prescription medications.

It seems to be a thing that young teenage girls with anxiety (which is epidemic in that age group in both sexes) and with horrific menstrual experiences (also epidemic in that age and sex group) are often saddled with long term dependence upon SSRI's and other psychotropic meds which are extremely difficult to ever come off of, which produce numerous side effects among which are suicidal tendencies (whoda thunk it?), and loss of libido (irony alert!), as well as being experimentally "poked" with various contraceptive hormones and devices to "regulate their periods" (a completely off-label indication for almost all licenced contraceptives), by the time they turn 18.

I shudder to think how this pharmaceutical cocktail, and its horrific effects can be "unwound" again sufficiently to bring a young woman back in sync with her own inner vitality, sexuality, and emotional health, for each of the millions for whom this is already reality, although I am doing what I can for the few that have begun to come to me.

I welcome prayers and blessings for myself and for this work.

Many blessing Scotlyn.
You are in my prayers.
EC

Thank you!

I remember Roosh talking about the average single woman and how many psychiatric meds she was on, to the point where he published a taxonomy of what the different pills looked like and what they were for, as a way to evaluate whether you wanted to invest in her or not.

Who is Roosh? Where did he write this?

RooshV used to be part of the pick-up-artist scene. He has since found God and spent some time working on his salvation. About as unbalanced a personality as you might expect, but a fascinating story arc.

Hmm... very interesting, thank you. A data point I may well follow up on. :)

i will pray on top of my constant gratitude for you, dear Scotlyn. thank you for Everything, healing me during this difficult staggering time.
xxxxx

erika

Thank you... :) :)

Edited (this still showing as "screened" even though other later comments are approved? ) 2024-08-21 20:08 (UTC)

Just a fwiw suggestion.. do you know someone with a similiarly high vibration as you in your neck of the woods? My wife is at a lower level as she held on to the trappings of the system for too long, so when I spend a full day with her (about once a week), it really helps to bring her up to 'speed' over the weeks and months, but it's very draining for me. When I held my freedom group meets, everyone enjoys themselves and the vibe is great, but for another guy in the group and me, we have a hard crash after that. Pretty much everyone is at much lower vibration level.... So recently I've been 'cheating', by hosting a meal with just this friend and myself, and we can drink like a bottle of wine each, get a slight buzz with no hangover or fatigue. With roughly the same energy/vibration level, we end up reinforcing each other...

As you help the vex injured, it will be quite draining for you vibration-wise too, so you will need to pace yourself. Just a gentle reminder.

Thank you! Very sound advice! :)

Dear Scotlyn,

Yes, this is horrific. More so if you consider that acupuncture is extremely effective in regulating women's reproductive cycles; but few patients will ever learn that.

All I can say is that in order to make sense of this reality, I have found comfort in the nascent legend of The Thin Red Line (based on historic events from the Crimean War of the 1850's, actually the same battle as the better known Charge of the Light Brigade). If your Internet name means what I think it means this is actually more relevant, since it was mostly Scottish/Irish troops fighting under an English banner... but I digress.

The tide is coming. You, as well as myself and many others, are in the line. There's no fallback, no reinforcements and no replacement. You and only you can hold your 5' or so of the line, nobody could if you don't. May you stay steady, and trust the rest of us to hold our own 5 feet.

Thank you so much, Homeopathic Meditations!

I will look into the Thin Red Line.

We each do have a part to play, small though each of our parts is... and so, I accept the invitation, and for my part, will play my part with good heart.

As to my "internet name", though, you will have to take its meaning up with my mother, since it happens to be the name she gave me when I came into this world. :)

Girls really are given a crap set of options :(

Nobody's selling them healthy lifestyles, healthy attitudes, or healthy life choices.

I had those horrific menstrual problems when young. 100% cured by my first pregnancy, just as the ancient Greek and Roman doctors would have told you. No cramps in 13 years. I realize that's not universal, but... I do not feel like I can even say that out loud. My real-life experience is completely taboo. I contemplate this one, now and then, and find no satisfactory path through it. How did we get into this bind?

Thank you for the perspective.

In this domain, the domain of menstruation, pregnancy, menopause, etc which is a womanly domain, real life experience - and also really useful resources and techniques - is what we rarely talk about, rarely tell one another about, and a domain each of us traverses as if utterly alone in unexplored territory- even though, as you say, the exploration of this territory have been ongoing... back as far as ancient Greeks and Romans, and much further back than that, again!

Yup, my wife had bad menstrual cramps up till the birth of our first kid. Years later (we still stupidly believed in the system at that point), we decided that she should go on birth control pills. In a short period of time, I quickly learnt to entertain thoughts of divorce - like this is nowhere near the woman I married. Period pains came back too. When we spoke with 2 other close family friends much later, they also had the same bad experience with birth control pills.. that drastic change in the personality was nowhere in the side effects list.

The unfortunate connection with the coof shots, is that I don't see the hormonal and neurological changes induced by the shots are as easily reversible, as compared to stopping the birth control pills.

Stopping the birth control pills is not all that straightforward, either. I once saw a woman weekly for around 7 months Ishe had great patience and determination!) just working to bring her periods back after she got married and went off the pill. She suffered from the well known "post-pill amennorhea". We used temperature charting throughout, which allowed us to see the "shape" of a period begin to appear months before the actual first period appeared, which was a great boost to her, in circs. Still, for myself I was so happy when she reported a period. She then carried on receiving treatment for a few months more, but decided the charting was making her too anxious and no pregnancy was happening. Two years later she rebooked, 8 months pregnant. Which was a lovely outcome! :)

As to the "change of personality" - well, that was the thing that put me off the whole business of using a pill for contraceptive purposes - it was a killjoy for me, and what is the point of killing your joy in order to have your joy? Made no sense to me, so I gave it up as a bad job after a month or two, somewhere in my 20's.

As a result of my own experience, I also have grave doubts about how "revolutionary" the pill was from the contraceptive point of view. There really are MANY, MANY other options, most of which do not totally re-organise a person's physiology, and some of them have a very long heritage, indeed!

I don't actually have figures to hand, but I'm beginning to suspect that the woman who is taking the pill exclusively for contraceptive purposes is a rarer creature than the woman/girl who is taking it for "regulation of periods".

I lucked out and never went on the pill. I had grown up listening to my mom and sisters talk about how awful it was when they tried it (and then went off it because why would you put yourself through that?). I figured... well, it probably doesn't do that to everyone, but it does seem to have those effects on everyone in *my family* so (quick mental arithmetic) nope.

Despite a keen interest in alternatives to contraceptives for both contraception and alleviating dysmenorrhoea it has been very hard for me to find out much of practical use.
Once I saw a sea sponge in a museum exhibition and according to the placard they have been used as natural barriers to conception in certain cultures. That is the extent of it... warnings against peppermint oil in pregnancy make me wonder how effective it might be and how it could be used.

If you could provide any pointers or links on these topics or suggest any search terms (so many I have tried have led nowhere useful) I'd be very grateful.

- iridescent scintillating elver

My experience with persistent severe dysmenorrhoea was finally resolved by getting an appropriate nutritional oil supplement to reduce the excess production of inflammatory prostaglandins. Omega 6 oils (borage, evening primrose, and black currant oil) can be helpful.
In my case it turned out that I was deficient in omega 3 oils and taking flax oil did it for me. The same enzymes are used for processing both types of oil and converting the flax oil into a useful form reduced the over production of inflammatory prostaglandins.

If you are going to consider this approach I would just add a caution. Polyunsaturated fats can go rancid in the body if you don't have enough antioxidants in your diet to keep them stable.

Those are two big questions, which I may be able to come back to with more detail next Monday (I'll be away from the computer all weekend).

But short story:
1) Contraception. Personally, I got by very well throughout my 20's and 30's using barrier methods - diaphragms and condoms. It wasn't until my late 30's, though, that I realised on how few days of the month I was actually fertile. I then learned how to track the state of my own fertility. I used temperature charts initially until I got more confident in my own "sensing" of personal signs like presence or absence of fertile mucous, the open/closed state of my cervix, the high/low state of my cervix and etc. Once my fingers could sense what the temperature charts confirmed, then I knew for sure on which days there was no chance at all that I could become pregnant, on which days I needed no "method" at all. On those days on which I could become pregnant, I was happy to resort to a barrier method which had the advantage of doing the one thing necessary to prevent conception - prevent sperm from reaching fertile egg. (This ancient knowledge is attested to, btw, in the Bible, as what was known as "the sin of Onan" confirms). By this time, though, I was in a steady relationship with my now husband, and his active participation in preventing conception WITH me (until such time as we agreed we would try for a child), indisputably made the whole issue much more secure and easy. In place of a barrier method, he could "make like Onan" during my fertile days, and this worked extremely well for us.

As a major in anthropology, in the long ago time when I attended college, I became familiar with accounts of societies which held and maintained extensive knowledge of the contraceptive properties of herbs within and among initiatory societies of women. I did not have to resort to herbal contraception, but I always knew that that whole, large, field of options also existed.

2. Dysmenorrhea - this is a tough ball of wax, and has a number of causes, but I do treat it very successfully in my clinic using the framings and tools I have learned from Traditional Chinese Medicine. I do think it is worth finding a good, local acupuncturist for this kind of work. I would expect to see much better results, at least for THIS condition, than any pharmaceutical intervention I know of.

Thanks Scotlyn.

I also know the field of herbal options exists, possibly suppressed by pharmaceutical/commercial interests as is much on other uses of herbs... where are the books? Not at my local library, not at the doctor's, nor on the internet afaict. So look more closely into anthropology, huh?

Acupuncture helped my dysmenorrhoea and menorrhagia as long as I was receiving treatment. In this country it isn't a frugal form of treatment.
Likewise naturopathic preparations, albeit only for a few months.

I had heard of omega 6 but not omega 3 for helping it. Thanks Claire!

For sure, I understand that the ideal aim is to be able to take charge of this matter into your own hands, and not have to rely on professionals.

Here is an article or two that might help start you down the road.

http://www.medherb.com/Therapeutics/Female_-_Herbs_and_Dysmenorrhea_.htm

http://jmp.ir/article-1-938-en.html

You might also try further searching within each of those websites.

As to acupuncture, almost everyone might obtain some relief from painful cramps using Sp6, Lv3 and/or LI4... location information for these should be easy to find online. Likewise, the cell salt Mag Phos, and indeed, magnesium supplements may help to alleviate cramping pain.

Of course, when I offer treatments, I must take a history, and ask questions like does pain occur before period/during period/both before and during period/after period is finished. Is it located in central abdomen, sides of abdomen, lower back or some/all of above. Is it stabbing, cramping, throbbing, dull. and etc. This is because painful periods may be due to stagnation (either qi or blood or both), due to cold retention, or due to deficiency. Traditionally many women in China would take the patent herbal remedy Tao Hong Si Wu Tang Wan during their periods, or starting with onset of cramps and finishing when either cramping or period finishes.

Menorraghia, is a different topic of its own. It also requires much investigation in order to determine if it is caused by stagnant blood, heat in the blood or deficiency. All of these will need different approaches, and using the wrong treatment could aggravate the problem. Therefore I will say no more on this point, but certainly hope that you find the help you need!

I do believe in making acupuncture affordable. So do these people. You could check their "clinic finder" to see if there is a community acupuncture clinic, operating on a sliding scale, near you. https://pocacoop.com/

"As a result of my own experience, I also have grave doubts about how "revolutionary" the pill was from the contraceptive point of view. There really are MANY, MANY other options, most of which do not totally re-organise a person's physiology, and some of them have a very long heritage, indeed!"

I'm also rather curious how effective it actually is. I accidentally got both women I dated in high school pregnant, despite both being on the pill. They both chose to get abortions, refused to talk about it with anyone else, and asked me not to say anything to anyone, a promise I've kept aside from anonymous comments like this.

I've long wondered just how effective the pill actually is, as opposed to the marketing, because based on my personal experience it does not seem like it works at all as a form of contraceptive.

I cannot answer the question authoritatively, but I share your "wondering".

Imagine how awkward it would be to discover that its "safety" and "effectiveness" are no greater than that of other pharmaceutical products whose "safety" and "effectiveness" we are not allowed to question or doubt... ;)

The effectiveness of any form of contraception is based on the fallacy that the possibility of conception is the same any day of the month. Once you identify the fertile period and run the numbers again it's a completely different story; even for the pill.

There is also the human error and the fact that a young and healthy body will do what millions of years of evolution have primed it to do. For women, learning to track fertility is a great thing. Relying on it for birth control? Well let's just say it's best used by women for whom an unplanned pregnancy is not a disaster. Anyone else should have a back up plan.

As a male who hasn't dated a woman in close to a decade now, I might be missing something, but doesn't the pill make it much harder to track fertility? In which case it might actually be quite counterproductive....

Close to impossible I would imagine.

"The effectiveness of any form of contraception is based on the fallacy that the possibility of conception is the same any day of the month. Once you identify the fertile period and run the numbers again it's a completely different story; even for the pill."

It is not so much a "fallacy" as a bias as to which sex you are choosing to look at. Presuming he is healthy, a man is fertile every single day, but even the healthiest woman is only fertile for a few days in any month. So, you are right. If I wanted to guage the effectiveness of any contraceptive method, I *personally* would choose to evaluate it with regard to the woman's (occasional) fertile days, but I think they are mainly evaluated with regard to the man's (all of them) fertile days.

"For women, learning to track fertility is a great thing. Relying on it for birth control? Well let's just say it's best used by women for whom an unplanned pregnancy is not a disaster. Anyone else should have a back up plan."

I will push back against this strongly, Claire.

In my humble opinion, learning to track your own fertility (and then choose the birth control method(s) most appropriate for her and her partner in the context of that knowledge) is the ONLY reliable way for a woman to CONFIDENTLY predict ovulation, prevent/promote conception and confidently be in charge OF her own fertility.

Provided that:
1. her acquired self-knowledge is true and confirmed in several ways as she learns to track herself
2. her will and intention is clear, honest and undivided

Everything else is outsourcing the whole problem to someone/something else, who/what does not have our best interests at heart. And you will STILL need a back up plan.

When you can track your own fertility and ALSO have a partner who is WITH you in relation to the will and intention to prevent a conception arising from your lovemaking, you will be in the strongest possible place from which to ensure it does not happen against your will.

There really ARE only a few days in any month when a WOMAN can conceive. Knowing how to identify them makes ALL the difference.

In my experience, though, none of this is being taught to girls or women in any systematic or useful way.

I do what I can in my own clinic.

Edited (This needed one additional emphasis. Apologies. ) 2024-08-25 19:52 (UTC)

You are absolutely right of course. The problem I was alluding to is #2: having a clear, honest and undivided intention is the challenge.

As far as the point about sex bias I'm not arguing but I was talking about conception which is limited to the times when both are fertile.

Edited (clarity) 2024-08-25 23:36 (UTC)

As to point 1, it is the obverse temptation of the condition of learned helplessness, or infantilisation, is it not? When we are not clear in our minds, to let/ask/demand some greater force "decide" the outcomes for us, while appearing outwardly to be firm.

(A totally non-contraceptive example of what I mean was a recent interaction with a person who was telling me about their life pattern of overwork, over-extension, never being able to say no, and who suffers many ills. When they rhetorically ask - in relation to some of the ills - "why me?" I say, have you not just been telling me "why you?" They respond - "sometimes I just wish my boss would close down the business, then I could rest". I'm like - "you realise you have just asked the universe to do something that would affect a large number of people, in possibly harmful ways, to save you having to make, and enact, some personal decisions about your own worklife?")

And of course you are right, too. And yet, a man who is not in a committed relationship (and may therefore not wish to undertake deep conversations with every potential sex partner to determine how fertile she is on a given day) DOES need to think of himSELF as being fertile every single day, and approach the issue from that point of view. Whereas a woman, in or out of a committed relationship, needs to know, and act on, the "fertile" status of each of her days.

When I tried the pill, I don't know how I seemed to others, but I *felt* intensely anxious all the time. I quickly went off it.

I had the same intense anxiety in early pregnancy. Not that surprising since the pill is meant to simulate pregnancy, and gives you similar hormones.

-Ochre Shabby Sea Serpent

Thanks all for the frank discussion and especially to you, Scotlyn, for aalways generously sharing so much of your thinking, wisdom and knowledge with us.

pocacoop doesn't seem to list any clinics in Aus - no surprise.

Like Tamar I hope to be able to help younger women with what I learn.

When one generation "inducts" the next generation in the mysteries, then things are working as they should. May your work be blessed.

Try googling "community acupuncture" or "multibed acupuncture" - maybe you will find people with similar ideas in Australia! :)

Tucker Carlson recently did an interview with some folks talking about these sorts of issues.

It wasn't particularly new information for me, but it is interesting to see this stuff talked about in what I suppose could be called a mainstream forum at this point. I don't watch him very often, but I sort of like Tucker's interview style - he mostly just shuts up and lets his guests talk, interjecting questions mostly where he thinks his viewers would want clarification.

I would love a link, or at least a key word for searching with. :)

Here is a link to the video on Rumble. It is an interview with Calley and Casey Means.

https://rumble.com/v5b73od-calley-and-casey-means-the-truth-about-ozempic-the-pill-and-how-big-pharma-.html?

Excellent video. Thank you!

Totally concur about Tucker. He mostly shuts up and lets the guest speak, but asks for clarification or gives encouragement as appropriate. I believe it's call "active listening". Does anyone remember how to talk to each other face to face anymore?

Prayers and blessings from me aplenty, Scotlyn!

Ron M

Thank you so much, Ron M! :)

Thank you for your work.

My *toddler* daughter even seems anxious. Not sure why or what to do about it. She's lately tended to react to feeling ill by being certain that her hands (or other, stranger body parts like her eyes) are "dirty." (First time that happened I took her in for a strep test, but no. "Just a virus.")

She was painting today, got a little bit of paint on her hand, and felt like she had to wash her hand before continuing. I told her, "No, if you wash your hand every time you get a little paint on it, that could hurt your skin. Instead we'll wait till you're done painting and wash your hands then." I had to repeat this several times before she listened. She just kept anxiously repeating, "Wash the hand! Wash the hand!"

-Ochre Shabby Sea Serpent

Anxiety is troubling, and for sure, there is a lot of unmoored anxiety floating about in the atmosphere for sensitive children to pick up.

However, children have always had fears and worries that take specific forms - say, the traditional monster under the bed... sometimes the most important thing to do is not belittle or disregard the fear, but show the child where the invisible poker (for bashing invisible monsters with) is - under the pillow, say... so that the child gains the means to confront the fear for themselves. :)

In this case, I wonder (but you know your child, and I don't)... if she could find an invisible waterfall or pool in her imagination to bathe in when things feel "dirty" (and, oh, there is an awful lot of invisible "dirt" flying around), she can take her waterfall or pool with her everywhere. Maybe a bedtime story that you spin around the theme, just for her? :)

Along these same lines, I was interested to see the Zero Hedge news aggregator site giving a signal boost to the news about how bad statins are for you and how they don't actually do any good at all:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2024-08-23/statins-are-pharma-trash-research-mounts

The more people get exposed to things like this, the sooner we're likely to see a gradual return to something like sanity.

Similar surprise here when I read of a recent mainstream study that found a strong association between prenatal fluoride exposure and reduced intelligence in children. This is not the first such study, but for some reason it's getting more mainstream exposure.

Yet again, we conspiracy theorists seem to have been right.

*Ochre Harebrained Curmudgeon*

"the sooner we're likely to see a gradual return to something like sanity". Cynical me doubts your optimism.

Have a friend who had a heart attack, mainly due to blatant self-neglect. He's on the usual cocktail of post-heart attack drugs - statins, blood pressure meds etc. For life he says.

Any attempt to discuss the usefulness of those drugs is met with the same blank stare and mental block as discussing the jabs.

True believers truly believe.

Thank you Scotlyn for all the information that you share! I’m wondering how you feel about hormones for menopausal women and how TCM views that? I’ve had multiple inflammatory related health issues in the last few years, since menopause and my naturopath has been recommending bioidentical hormones, which after several years I finally started, and noticed much better sleep which is helpful.

But my inclination has always been to treat health as naturally as possible and I am not totally comfortable with the idea of taking hormones. Does TCM take a different approach to menopause?

In appreciation, Tamar

Hello Tamar,
May I offer my blessings and prayers that things go well for you?

Firstly, I will say, your naturopath is seeing you in person, and I'm not. You have a relationship going with that practitioner, and you are finding personally benefit from something that came through that relationship. I am uncomfortable fueling a second-guessing exercise in that context.

I do not treat "conditions", I treat people. And I have great faith in people's capacity to heal. Yours also. Many times the tools and treatments are not the most important thing. They all have their place, and they all can sometimes BE the road that will bring blessing and healing to SOME person. Many times the MOST important thing is the care you receive from a practioner who has gotten to know YOU, and YOUR decision to consent to that care, and to consent to receive the healing the universe offers YOU through that practitioner's care, tools and treatments.

So, when something is working, go with it, and bless it, thank it for what it has done, and let it do its work. May everything you encounter serve your needs, as you serve the needs of those you love.

May you be well, and stay free.

Thank you Scotlyn! And may I offer you my blessings as well for the work that you are doing. How wonderful for the young women that you work with that they’ve found you.

I would have loved to have found better and more varied information and guidance as a young woman. But I will continue uncovering what I need to know now and hopefully provide better support to my own daughter who is just navigating puberty. I have faith and confidence that all I’m learning and doing for my own health will help her. And at some point I will experiment with other ways of managing the physical changes of menopause, besides hormones.

I ask mostly because literally all of the women around me feel that they could not function without it and they feel that their health, sleep and energy levels declined too much. It could be a reflection of the state of health of our environment at all levels.

Thank you again for all the information you share here! Tamar

Thank you. :)

"...literally all of the women around me feel that they could not function without it and they feel that their health, sleep and energy levels declined too much. It could be a reflection of the state of health of our environment at all levels."

You hit on some hard truths here. The first is the general state of "learned helplessness" or "infantilisation" to which we are all subject in so many different ways. "Fix me" is, so often, our cry to the universe. And so, we become the fodder for all the "fixers" whose main "schtick" is keeping us dependent upon their products.

And in the course of the making of those products, we, as a civilisation, degrade and damage our environments which are our home and only ultimate source of health and vitality. Perhaps the way back to health, for each of us, which also is a way back to recovery of some agency in the wider world, is figuring out what we can DO to care for, and bring health back to, some small thing or being within our reach. A plant, a tree, a window box, a bird feeder, a whole garden, if we're lucky, the people we know and love, all of it. Add some love, care and health SOMEWHERE near you, and you get to live in an ever so slightly more loved, cared for, and healthy place! :)

Be well, stay free! xx

To be fair, not treating such symptoms may not lead to good things either. Started having severe pain with periods at 14. I've also had anxiety symptoms starting about age 6. I basically stumbled through my teenage years with anti-inflammatory meds and occasional counselling, with the whole thing messing me about badly and causing significant missed school as well as a lot of pain and misery. Finally got given birth control at about age 20 to deal with the pain, and it helped a lot. But no one really looked into why it was happening... 21 years after the start of symptoms, found out I have endometriosis, and went back on the birth control, which helped. I'd gone off it for a few years when things eased up and it seemed like I didn't need it, and then my new doctor had moral issues with birth control. Even though I wasn't using it for that, it meant she didn't know what to do with it, and it took a year to get the tests that allowed them to figure out what was wrong with me. So I was in a lot of pain in the mean time.

Going off meds doesn't bring someone like me back in synch with my own inner vitality, sexuality and emotional health. I didn't have that in the first place. Not having meds that were helping me just meant a lot of pain and suffering I don't think I should have been forced to go through when I knew from experience that it helped in a way nothing else I'd tried did.

I know what you've gone through. My experience was almost identical. Starting just before my 13th birthday and with some of the same frustratingly ineffective trial and error treatments. I'm glad you've found relief. Endometriosis is a tough one. Freedom of choice in healthcare means you absolutely get to choose the treatment that works best for you.

But I don't think Scotlyn is suggesting "not treating" these young women. It sounds to me like she is working very hard to help them build up their vitality and find their way to sexual and emotional health. Nor did she suggest that "going off meds" would be a solution. Rather, she pointed out that these types of medical interventions have a lasting impact on very young women that makes that process much more difficult.

Ultimately it's their own karma, as it is for each of us, but it's really unfortunate that western medicine is so lame about women's heath.

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"To be fair, not treating such symptoms may not lead to good things either."

100%

I mean, 100%!!!!

Suffering and disease need TREATMENT, and people want TREATMENT. My observations relate to the fact that the system is not geared to help you or I gain agency over our health. Which means that people often get saddled with FIXES, aimed at increasing their dependency, instead of being TREATED.

Still, occasionally, in what you might call a "happy" side effect, people DO manage to get treatment from the systems we have.

The key, to me is to be able to negotiate with the system, while retaining one's own agency. Because within that system there is still much of good, both people and meds, if we can negotiate with it on OUR terms, not on ITS terms, which endeavour to reduce our agency and increase our dependency (the major key to profitability in every industry, it must be admitted).

The thing that stands out to me in the story you are sharing here, is that you are glad to have found comfort and relief through using certain meds, after many years of "no one looking into why" you were suffering - ie no one TREATING you.

And, if I may, I offer you respect! It has not been an easy journey for you, and yet you have been able to use it to gain respect for the counsel of your own personal experience, which gives you connection with the only "expert" that can usefully guide your decisions.

May you be well, may your inner "expert" continue to bless you with her wisdom, and keep you free, vital and healthy, with whatever that entails! :)

Has anyone else experienced a 'crash' after using ivermectin?

I tried it for the first time a couple of months ago to ward off an oncoming cold- it worked like magic. After a long, hardworking day and less than the usual amount of sleep (both scheduled in advance) I felt the scratchy throat returning, so I took another dose. Presto, symptoms gone.

Two days after THAT, I was in the middle of my work day and suddenly felt so tired I had to sit down and could not make myself get up. It felt like torture just to keep myself awake. So I stayed in that chair for maybe three quarters of an hour, summoned up the strength to drive myself home, and slept for several hours before eating dinner and then sleeping a full night's sleep. The next day I felt normal.

An herbalist friend suggested it may have been a 'healing crisis' and the concept intrigued me. I have taken ivermectin several times since and the results have been consistent with regard to clearing up illness quickly but equivocal in regards to inducing some sort of fatigue crash.

Anyone else have data points to share?

Dylan

I never experienced any crash, but maybe because I did not pay enough attention.

BTW, can you recommend a good source of ivermectin for those in US? I got some from India, but am not sure whether they gave me the real medicine or not.

Sorry. Here in Canada you can get it off the shelf at any farm supply store, though my friend tells me it was kept behind lock and key during the bad times. I don't know about the US.

Dylan

At its worse, farm/pet supply stores in the US required you to show pictures of your 'horsie' when you wanted to buy pony paste.

That's a big reason why it really irks me when I hear the newly anti-vim folks chant that it's a big pharma product... you mean the one that they actively prevented you from purchasing? Also Merck was seemingly the company with the production/distribution rights for the 'human' versions in the west, and while I have purchased a multitude of versions from all around the world, none of them were made by Merck.

I bought my stash of the apple-flavored horse paste off amazon.com
Easy.

Do you mind sharing why you've only started taking VIM at this point in time? Was it due to hesitancy before, or inability to obtain supplies? Also the actual dosage that you're using.

Your reaction is suggestive of a strong 'detox' situation. With normal dosing (0.2 to 0.6mg per kg), it just treats all manner of the usual respiratory issues and actually a whole host of other minor ones. At 0.8mg per kg, that's where the anti-C properties come into play. As part of the preventive/maintenance regime, one can do 3 days of 0.8 or higher, every 3 to 4 months. When my wife and I did that regime, 24 hours after we started, we felt crappy for like a few hours to half a day... and then all clear after that. It was just the flood of waste products from the cleared up 'c' cells overwhelming our bodies' cleansing mechanisms...

For my mother with the 2 jabs and 2 cancer instances, her crappy state also started 24 hours, but lasted all 3 days. That clued me that I had to tweak her daily supplements to strengthen her immune system even more (e.g. curcumin,berberine, Vit D/K2 etc). During subsequent detox treatments, she is now suffering through a day or day and a half max of crappiness and then it's all clear for her, even though the treatment cycle is still 3 days long.

Your sequence of reaction each time would suggest that the dosage was more than enough to take care of the respiratory issue, and the excess VIM went in search of other targets. Those other stuff take a bit longer to break down and do show manifest as fatigue or aches much later, though 24 hours or so has been the experience for us and other folks we know who have access to VIM.

Good questions. I didn't feel the need to try it earlier, as I was in good health generally and had not been sick much during the days of pandemic hype.

Only in the early part of this year did I get sick and then sick again a few weeks later, so I decided to up my game. By that time I had a real-life friend who took it regularly and could offer assurances and advice on dosing, procurement, etc.

Part of why I started getting sick more often was a new job a year and a half ago at a childcare centre, where you just expect more exposure to germs and viruses. Part of it has also been getting run down by the slow-building emotional burden of all the madness, with lack of good sleep going hand in hand as both cause and effect. I imagine I will post another thread on that another time.

Sorry I don't know the dosage offhand and can't check from where I am currently. I tried to pick the midrange dosage so maybe it was 0.6.

Detox sounds about right, it's what my herbalist friend offered as an interpretation. Thanks for the anecdotes and explanations.

Dylan

If I may, one thing I've notice is that when you don't take time to BE sick when you need to, it is very hard to BE well.

What *may* be happening is that the ivermectin is helping you to "borrow" hours of your future to use right now, but your body is insisting that you pay them back promptly.

What I would add to this is that (to me) this is an excellent "insistence" that you possess. Because too many people just keep on "soldiering" through, never letting themselves BE sick, borrowing freely from their future health to support that effort, and therefore never allowing themselves to cycle all the way through the sickness their body needs in order to process whatever challenge they are going through, and get back to full health and vitality.

In your case, your body's "insistence" that you pay back those future health hours you had borrowed, meant that you are getting back to health more quickly.

Please do continue to pay attention to these signals. Your signalling system is, if I may say so, working VERY well! :)

Hear! Hear!

Thanks Scotlyn, both for the encouragement and for the alternative interpretation. Perhaps yours and Stubborn's take could both be true?

Ivermectin worked so well for me that I did wonder if there was a catch or payback built into the healing process. Because of this I hesitated a long time before trying it again, and the next time I did so starting at a lower dose and then taking it for a full five days, as the Covid Care Alliance protocol recommends. No crash that time, but I also allowed myself to lie in bed for most of two days and actually be sick, as you so eloquently put it.

Overall I think I'm hearing from you that my body is probably taking on real and successive challenges to its healthy balance, but overall showing itself pretty capable. Is that fair to say?

Dylan

Dylan

We exist at many levels, and on many planes, as these blogs constantly discuss. Of course, many takes can be all be true - each take comes from a different perspective, a different point of view, and sometimes a different way to look. When it comes to anything I say, feel free to pick what helps and is useful, and discard what isn't. :)

What I mean to say is that maintaining health sometimes comes down to the capacity to have a good conversation with all of the parts of our bodies which are working away to maintain it, often expressing their needs through "urges" and "appetites" which press themselves wordlessly upon our awareness. Eg the "crash" you experienced a few days after taking the med (but also, I'm guessing, USING the med to push a little past your available energy stores and etc in order to accomplish some task or other you felt responsible for at the time).

Many people refuse to heed these signals, while they are still subtle and gentle, and until the whole body unsubtley and insistently crashes, have no idea they are working at cross-purposes with themselves all the time.

FWIW

I thought this might be of interest since you are taking ivermectin: anti-vaxxer Dr. Mike Yeadon was just excerpted on theautomaticearth.com today. He is saying that ivermectin causes infertility and further hypothesizes that this is part of the globalists depopulation agenda. My personal reaction was that someone must have gotten to Mike, because all this seems a bit crazy and he doesn't cite much evidence to back up his claim. I went a little further down the rabbit hole (pun intended, if you read the article in the link below) and found that Dr. Tess Lawrie, whom I have always found to be balanced and honest, disagrees with Mike Yeadon.

https://drtesslawrie.substack.com/p/is-ivermectin-really-a-genocidal-f19?r=1f4bua&utm_medium=ios&triedRedirect=true

Just sharing my personal approach: I try very hard not to take anything at all, other than the best quality food I can get, and let my body do the work if possible, with plenty of sleep and exercise. FWIW, I am even backing off on vitamin supplements at this point. I have stopped trusting what might be in them. I have started having a really bad feeling about anything that comes in pill form that I didn't prepare myself... again, just my personal approach.

that's pretty much my approach, too. i do still use a few supplements, but if i can use a plant and call it food, that's a strong preference. given the ever-increasing waves of sickness that we're seeing, i've spent the last 3 months coming up with a prevention approach. i figure it might be of interest to others so here's what i've come up with (lots of inspiration from the FLCCC):

• 1 litre mouthwash: 10 drops eucalyptus essential oil, 10 drops peppermint essential oil, 10 drops white thyme essential oil, 10 drops lugol's iodine, 10g xylitol, 25ml swished for 30 seconds, then 25ml 10ppm colloidal silver swished for 30 seconds. daily.

• 100mg pepper, 100mg turmeric, 63mg quercetin, 50mg resveratrol, 50mg vitamin c, 13mg pterostilbene = 375mg on an empty stomach with green tea or liquorice tea, all mixed into a pill, 1 pill per 20kg bodyweight. 4x per week.

• mushroom milkshake, combo of lion's mane, chaga, reishi, shiitake, maitake, turkey tail, mixed with cocoa, banana, milk and honey to taste. 3x per week.

• spirulina energy ball, 1 teaspoon spirulina mixed with honey, dates, tahini. 3x per week.

• 10mg zinc per 20kg body weight, taken with green tea. 2x per week.

• elderberry syrup 20ml (= 14g berries, 7g sugar). 4x per week.

i'm hoping that this helps my 5 year old stave off whatever infection is next, hence the focus on mostly food as medicine (we're lucky enough to be able to eat at least 80% organic food these days) as most of that list is going to be taken on a regular basis, at least while he's at school, and i don't like him taking a medicine (such as ivermectin) on such a regular basis. when he does get sick, i'll look at more medicine-y things like cinchona bark (the origin of chloroquin), ivermectin, and increase the intake of the above list.

none of the above consists of medical advice, of course.

Hi, the mouthwash looks interesting but I don't see how the ingredients combine for 1L of it? 10 drops x 4 plus 10g?

water is the basis of it. 1 liter water, them the essential oils and xylitol.

i'm just searching on immunostimulants generally, and found this quite comprehensive paper: https://sci-hub.se/https://doi.org/10.1111/jfbc.13902 ("Immunity boosting nutraceuticals: Current trends and
challenges")

Thank you! Yes that paper does look interesting

FWIW we used to use it in our cattle and never noticed fertility issues in the herd (as a cow/calf operation the fertility drives the business). We ultimately stopped using it because it killed the dung beetles in our pasture, (and I’ve heard it can have negative effects on pollinators as well). I avoid pharmaceuticals unless it’s life or death, so I wouldn’t personally take it and can’t speak to any effects in that regard.

Very interesting note about the dung beetles.

1. I was looking at the recommended dosages and the search engines make it much harder than normal to get basic info. Finally I was able to confirm my impression - the dosing for cattle is 2.5x of that for horses/humans. VIM has a half life of about 18-20 hours in our body, which I suspect is the pretty similar for cattle, so with that level of dosing, even though there's no real side effects for the cattle, there's a lot of VIM being secreted with the cattle dung.

2. VIM is derived from soil bacteria, so the cattle secreting that much excess would greatly mess up the bacterial balance for the dung beetles. So I strongly suspect that if you chose to do so, you could dose your cattle with just the standard horse/human dosage and get the deworming effect, without upsetting the overall bacterial balance in the environment.

3. I did mention this particular benefit maybe a year or two ago, but it's relevant in this case. We know that VIM has great anti-viral properties... also anti-cancer at just higher doses (more on this later), and also anti-bacterial activity. A friend in my freedom group complained about having yet another UTI, and dreading to do the necessary strong dose of antibiotics for 5 days to clear it up. I told her, take VIM for a few days.. maybe double dose... and it was cleared up in 2 or 3 days, with no side effects, especially when compared to the antibiotics.

4. I can't 100% verify the validity of the following comment that I saw on a mainstream thread. It provided enough details that it just rang true to me and I filed away the information mentally. There are folks leaking all sorts of interesting and useful information, but they have to be circumspect and judicious in dropping the various datapoints. That was my gut sense... as Yeadon hasn't yet really revealed his 'sources' for his claim. So the comment said that a particular study was done in a US-funded Iraqi biolab in 2015. They dosed rats/rodents with 100x the basic dose for 5 to 6 months - intravenously, and fertility was definitely impacted. Another set was dosed with 10X the basic dose for 7 months, and sperm count went down but was restored when the dosing stopped - aka it wasn't a permanent change. None of the rodents were said to have suffered any other damage (or it would have been trumpeted up), so the crazy high dosing was redirecting the animal's 'qi' or basic energy towards other stuff rather than reproduction. Now contrast that with the dosing required to get the anti-C effect on humans... just 4X basic dose. That was enough to be effective with my mother's turbo colonrectal cancer. Looking at a few fresher online threads, people are now using up to 12X dosing... I don't chime in on those threads, as those folks can share their experiences openly and others can learn from it. But IMHO, they may end up eradicating too much cancer cells and overload their body's cleansing systems, but I get that many folks are now quite desperate.

I actually get a little energy boost from it. If you have parasites you aren't aware of it might be making them die and release toxins. Just one possibility off the top of my head, but you should consult a real medical professional.

I have a friend who has a good Indonesian friend who shared that she took Fenben regularly while growing up, as the water quality was a bit suspect. They do get that energy boost after each treatment and hence she always had a stash of fenben, even after she moved to Singapore.

FWIW, that lady also has 2 kids that she wanted and planned for. No fertilty issues.

Recently I've been pinged by a number of folks that Mike Yeadon, the ex-Pfizer guy, has become very vehemently anti-vim. I've been aware of that sentiment popping up occasionally in the past few months, like literally out of nowhere, a 'freedom' activist becomes very very anti-vim, and the usual way they tar it is by saying that big pharma came up with it, so it has to be bad. One example would be Bob Moran, the british satirical cartoonist, who just started stating strong anti-vim statements of that nature on twitter a couple months back, out of nowhere.

They don't seem to see the obvious, that big pharma has actually been actively suppressing it for decades (check out all the promising anti-c clinical trials using VIM from the 80s',90's, 00's etc and zero follow up), and then outright demonizing it during the coof period, and making up stories about folks in the midwest getting poisoned by it and lining up in droves at the hospital in the midwest (can't remember if it was Ohio or thereabouts).

So I finally got a chance to see the video of Yeadon, and it's a pretty slick, well-produced piece, great lighting in a symposium type setting with an audience etc. He bemoans that certain more well-known doctors have pushed VIM as a treatment for the coof.. but no no no, it's dangerous coz it can hurt fertility. Zero proof given, he doesn't get questioned seriously... and I'm thinking - so the doctors he's thinking of, like Dr Pierra Kory, who actually took the effort to write a book on VIM documenting his experiences using it, and the tons of studies done around the world showing efficacy, especially against the coof, has just recently been stripped of his licensing by some medical board.

There are too many other parallels to what is happening in other interlinked-spheres of activity going on around the world, basically a decaying/collapsing empire doing some last ditch hail marys, and even if they can't convince people, they can flood the information space with so much misinformation that people start to tune out automatically as they are wont to do. I'm guessing anyone new doing a search on VIM now will find pieces of Yeadon being pushed to the top of the search heap.... the whole fertility thing, like most of the major lifestock, and also people's precious expensive horses have been given VIM regularly for decades, has anyone heard of any fertility issues? I guess when they're making stuff up, the more bizarre it is, it's harder to refute initially as you think, they can't be that blatant in their lying, can they? We should know better by now of course, but the average normie still somewhat believes in the system.

Then I saw 2 more pieces, published in some obscure journals and loudly touted be newly anti-VIM 'freedom' activists... as previous weekly threads have discussed, the powers can be can get anything published so one has to look into the actual details of a study, rather than the headlines trumpeted. Anyways, the claim was that if people took VIM regularly, it 'may' alleviate the coof infection (so they're trying to gain currency by not going full bore VIM doesn't work for anything), but it may, just may, change the stomach lining that if you get money I mean monkeypox, then it will be a severe infection. Yes, that is really the claim that they're making. If anything, from my perspective, it just means that no matter what nasty gain of function stuff they're trying with the m-pox, VIM will probably do a semi-decent job against it.

Just as a reminder... Gates and Oxford funded a study on VIM which went on for 2 years, to try and proof that it doesn't work. They pulled the same stunt with HCQ and used a toxic dose (4X max known dosage) and used the headlines to stop HCQ from being used, even though the study was subsequently discredited. So they tried doing the same with VIM, and you can imagine what kind of crazy level dosages were used to try and find a toxic response... and then at the end of it, the trial was stopped and the excuse was that they ran out of VIM stocks. Erm... ok... so how much were they using towards the end, and what interesting illnesses did they accidentally find out that it cured? That, I really want to know. Anyways, point being, they couldn't get a toxic dosing for VIM, despite their best efforts.

The logic behind this is: they demonize it in order to make you trust it- it's a trap!

I've had the feeling for a little while now that Dr Yeadon, who has done stalwart work in warning people over a harrowing few years, has started to tip into a degree of paranoia, suspecting, well, simply everything.

He seems very tired,is perhaps on the brink of despair due to a lack of public response and understanding, and responded very strangely to me with zero facts when I asked a very straightforward question a few months ago.

The strain of fighting a rather lonely battle?

Off topic from the VIM propaganda, but related(ish) to Yeadon doing a weird about face and spouting nonsense, has anyone kept tabs on what's happening with Dr. Mercola? He's not someone I've paid much attention to, but this caught my eye:

https://www.naturalproductsinsider.com/market-trends-analysis/dr-mercola-consulted-with-psychic-before-axing-top-executives

https://www.nvic.org/newsletter/may-2024/defending-freedom-of-religion

and more about the channeler of the entity if you can stomach it: https://vivayalive.com/guides/5408/kai-clay

Good grief.

2 points to make...

1 - I've seen a number of YT channels where folks talk to channellers or people show themselves channelling. On the surface level, the message tends to be enchanting and mesmerizing.. oh if only life could be like that. I can't remember if it was on one of the weekly threads here or the main blog, where we discussed how it was a bad idea in general to be doing that and all the myriad reasons.. however that doesn't reduce the seductiveness of such messages. At one point, they even froze Mercola's bank accounts, including that of his company so that he had problems even paying his employees. Imagine the stress that put him under, as it's a tactic that's been used against a number of real freedom activists all over (e.g. Canadian truckers). It's much easier to fall prey to such channellers then, as one is desperately searching for answers, any answers.

When I watch such videos over the course of a few months, I get a sense of slight unease, that there's something slightly off, but can't pinpoint exactly what it is. Then another major happening occurs, e.g. start of the Ukraine war, and those channelers would make a few snide comments and it would be pretty much a close echo of western MSM narratives. If they were truly enlightened, they would see through all the obvious lies and propaganda. Upon some reflection, most of those popular channelers had also studiously avoided talking about the coof. Sure they may have wanted to avoid being demonetized or shadow-banned on YT, but now I bet if they had done so, they would have shown their real colors much earlier.

2 - I've been quietly advising folks in my freedom group to stop posting or comment on social media for 3+ months now. I just had the gut sense that the system will lash out in unpredictable ways in it's last throes, even when one thinks they are a low-value target for the system. At this point, you can't convince a normie to start awakening and detoxing, if they haven't already begun the process on their own. So self-protection requires extreme prudence in any social media postings. With what is happening to certain 'freedom' activist folks and their 180 degree turn, it has too many shades to MK Ultra... you'd think, why would the system bother at this point? But we're no longer dealing with a rational system, looking to use its system-control resources efficiently... hence, we can still read those social media posts (e.g. yet another unusual died suddenly), but refrain from giving them a convenient target as much as possible at this time.

Hi Stubborn,

Speaking to your second point— I wholly agree. I was going to write a longer note on this, but this news suffices:

Telegram CEO Pavel Durov, was arrested at an airport near Paris
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/elon-musk-on-telegram-founder-pavel-durov-s-arrest-executed-for-liking-a-meme/ar-AA1pnqB8

Telegram has a lot of vaccine injury and other counter-covid-narrative posts. But I never signed up for telegram because it requires a telephone number. Not handing that over, no way.

In general, my gut sense for a while now has been to stay wide away from Big Tech social media. Social media isn't one size fits all, though. For some, some of these platforms may make sense, I get that. For me they definitely do not. I've had a bad feeling about them for a long while now. And it seems we're headed into some very strange waters.

Cetiosaurus

Sure, and all those places where the formula in question has been used by humans as an antiparisitic (etc.), have all seen massive cases of infertility, such that those countries' birthrates have cratered just like they have in the northern hemisphere. /sarc

Does this refer to once yearly or once weekly treatment?

The 4th largest pharma company makes ivermectin?

I feel that once we start defending characters and rallying around heroes the plot has been lost. I can't believe that a product can be so miraculous with no tradeoffs.

The presuppositions of this product discussion is that there is a need to take the product against some novel virus. Which seems incredibly unlikely, a thing of science fiction. Our bodies and immune systems are well versed at dealing with anything they encounter through a system of recognizing "this is me" vs "this is not me".

Unlike bacteria that can replicate, it is helpful to remember that the myth around viruses being able to spread is suspect. They are not pattern integrities. They have no ability to spread as claimed.

So given all the evidence, anec-data, and the obvious demonization campaign against VIM, you still can't 'believe' it? That's fine, as I don't recall that there was ever a mandate to force people to take it.

Also the trope that big pharma makes it, hence it's gotta be bad. In reality, a lot of US folks who used the FLCCC doctors to get VIM prescriptions found their pharmacies refusing to honour it, totally contravening the law as the pharamacists were effectively practicing medicine. Hence I know only of super-rich folks like Joe Rogan who had access to the official 'human' versions... pretty much everyone else had to jump through hoops. I'm all ears if you can give me just 1 example of the 'tradeoff' you mentioned. A real one, just one.

As they were rolling out the jabs in Singapore, there was an elderly lady who didn't want to take the jab, instinctively knew it wasn't good for her, but her daughter really insisted. Soon after, she developed bad side effects which resulted in overall deterioration of her health, looking like she would be on her deathbed soon. Through some church friends, they quietly russed up enough VIM, hoping that it would help her.... but it was already far too late. MSM coverage? VIM usage was the thing that caused her to become sick and ill... see how poisonous it is etc etc. The truth was known in the alt-forums, including screen shots of the elderly lady's sister chat messages who plaintaively asked her neice - how can she do that to her own mother and then lie about it all.

For me the main fact about ivermevctin is that it has been around a long time, used for both people and animals for all sorts of things. Side effects laughably minimal. I use it. I can say it's been helpful. The psy op against it was powerful stuff, however.

That story out of Singapore is so sad.

On my side of the globe I know a number of people who HEAVILY pressured their parents and their kids and everyone else to take the jabs, and to hate on "misinformation" spreaders and "anti-vaxxers." They've either figured it out that they got conned or they're going on something like jab #10 now. In either case, I don't think they're feeling too comfortable. Feeling uncomfortable: that makes people liable to say or do not very nice things.

The turbo cancers are still popping up. This article goes over the case of a 25 year old Australian woman https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13598667/Young-woman-dead-weeks-unborn-baby-Brisbane.html

William Makis posted about it on X. For people who don't do X I'll copy what he said below. One small issue with what he says is that the first scan didn't show anything wrong, but considering the symptomes there was already something going on, but not enough to show it on the (lower quality) scan. That doesn't take away from the fact that the braintumour grew at astonishing speed. There could be another reason, but it just seems like the jab is involved. I find it unsettling that so much time after the jab people still seem to have a risk of lethal complications.

"TURBO CANCER - From normal scan to multiple brain and lung masses and death within 26 days!!

Brisbane, Australia - 25 year old Olivia Harlow was 32 weeks pregnant when her vision blurred

She had a normal brain scan at 34 weeks pregnancy.

Her baby died suddenly at 37 weeks on June 16, 2024, stillbirth.

Days later, her partner found her unconscious on the floor

"Liv had multiple masses in her head/brain and on her lungs...this large mass had also ruptured...doctors told the family that Liv was brain dead"

"Doctors could not explain why in 26 days she had nothing in the original scan and then by the second scan she had so many of these masses"

Olivia was taken off life support on June 24, 2024.

This is the very definition of COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine Induced Turbo Cancer. I still get attacked every day for speaking out about this phenomenon

From a clean scan to multiple masses in the brain and lungs and death all within 26 days

Of course this happened in the most COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine compliant country in the world - Australia."

Plenty of sudden deaths/turbo cancers appearing in the Daily Mail. For some reason they publish more of those than any other MSM rag.

I commented to my wife the other day that every time I look at the DM there's a few sudden deaths.

Anti-COVID jab doctor gets help from pro-freedom legal group in fight against medical regulator

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/anti-covid-jab-doctor-gets-help-from-pro-freedom-legal-group-in-fight-against-medical-regulator/

Freedom Convoy trial resumes, leaders still face possible 10-year jail sentence

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/freedom-convoy-trial-resumes-leaders-still-face-possible-10-year-jail-sentence/

Thanks for this. Good summary!

The trial of Lich and Barber has now broken the record in Canada for the longest trial in the charge of 'mischief'. Meanwhile other important trials of freedom folks have also been stretched out: the verdict of Pat King's trial is going to be given in September; the Crown is appealing the 'not guilty' jury verdict of the Coutts Boys regarding conspiracy to kill a police officer; and the trial of former provincial minister of parliament Randy Hillier has been delayed until early 2025. The despots in charge are determined to keep on kicking the legal cans down the road as long as they can and cause as much psychological and financial pain to the defendants as possible. What will happen to these ongoing trials if another pandemic is declared and the country is locked down (like a prison) for months? These are things that I dread to contemplate.

Ron M

This certainly underlines the reason for including the word "speedy" in the 6th Amendment to the US Constitution (my own bolding by capitalisation below):

Amendment VI
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a SPEEDY and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.

EXCLUSIVE: New Docs Reveal Biden Admin Knew Fauci’s Agency Lied To Cover Up Dog Torture Experiments

https://dailycaller.com/2024/08/20/white-coat-waste-anthony-fauci-beagle-gate-dog-experiments/

The Pedriatic Infectious Disease Journal published a study with the title "Delayed Induction of Noninflammatory SARS-CoV-2 Spike-Specific IgG4 Antibodies Detected 1 Year After BNT162b2 Vaccination in Children". You can find it here https://journals.lww.com/pidj/fulltext/9900/delayed_induction_of_noninflammatory_sars_cov_2.959.aspx

The study is imo quite concerning. It shows that young children (6-10 year old) have 1 year after the Pfizer jab high levels of IgG4 in their blood. It is unknow what causes this, or what the impact is on their health.

For those interested I'll go a bit more into the study. Of course the article starts with singing the praise of the jab (you have to kiss the ring as a scientist or loose your funding and job), but the real info is hidden in the grey part with Figure 1.

Figure 1 gives the results for 14 children ages 6-10 who were tested for IgG4 levels. 1C and 1D show their levels of IgG4 at 3 different points in time: first before the jab, then 5 weeks later when they had had the second dose and then 1 year later. It shows that after the second jab IgG4 is a bit elevated in some cases, but 1 year after the jab the levels have exploded upwards in most cases. Note that the scale on the y-axis is logaritmic!

For the health of the children this seems like bad news. It looks like their immune system will be less effective in fighting the Coof. We also don't know what causes the increased IgG4 which means we cannot rule out other risks. It might be the case that their bodies are still producing spike, or that the tolerance effect sets in quickly when a naive immune system gets the gene therapy. Also there are unknown other possible complications. For example there is a category of "IgG4 related disease" that can lead to complications like "tumour-like mass formation in many affected organs" (See this study https://www.nature.com/articles/s41584-020-0500-7). There are many IgG4's so I'm not saying that it is the case here, but I would love to have certainty to be able to rule it out.

an update from naomi:

I am back! Permitted a face and a byline again by the powers that be at

x, after having been deplatformed yet AGAIN, once again for simply telling the truth. Thank you to

realalexjones.

elonmusk, this punitive "suspension" for the crime of real journalism is tiresome, damaging for my business and reputation, and must not happen again.

https://nitter.poast.org/naomirwolf/status/1825937944177422560#m

The Covid pandemic was used to fundamentally change the relationship between US citizens and their government.

The government’s public health response was not a medical response, but instead a test of technocratic power: to see how the population would respond to totalitarian edicts masked as medical interventions.

The government also selected the lockdown winners and losers, transferring nearly 4 trillion dollars of wealth from the middle class & small business to Silicon Valley and big box stores.

There have been NO corrections and NO apologies--because the government wants to be able to do it again.

That is why we are hearing all the hoopla now about monkeypox and bird flu and yet more experimental vaccines.

We CANNOT let this happen again. We MUST resist.

https://nitter.poast.org/RobertKennedyJr/status/1825951970404045267#m

..also... its going around that he might drop out and
join forces with Trump:

RFK’s VP Nicole Shanahan says they are debating whether to stay in the race or drop out and join forces with Trump:

“There’s two options that we're looking at and one is staying in, forming that new party, but we run the risk of a Kamala Harris and Waltz presidency because we draw more votes from Trump.

Or we walk away right now and join forces with with Donald Trump and explain to our base why we're making this decision.”

https://nitter.poast.org/EndTribalism/status/1825913860412354588#m

a lot of ppl i have seen are liking this idea, and think he would be great in Trump's administration.

The "relationship" hasn't changed.

You've just become aware of who they really are. They were always this way.

The real question is, what will you do now?

As with governments, so with family relationships and so with friendships.

What will you do now?

My personal answer: get more involved in my local government.

With family be very, very circumspect about discussing health issues and treatments (happy to offer info if anyone asks, but that isn't happening).

With friends, for starters, no fascist loons.

A final bit of information. Mortality in the Netherlands has declined somewhat since mid July. The level of excess mortality is still high, but slightly less than in the corresponding weeks of Summer 2022. Summer of 2022 has been so far the summer with the highest mortality.

The latest updat of Dietmar Ferger about the levels of sickness among the German workforce shows the same trend: high, but just below the level of 2022 (2022 had also here the highest levels so far).

They've noticed at Bloomberg!

Funeral stocks look healthy...

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2024-08-19/deaths-are-up-post-covid-and-so-are-funeral-stocks-prognosis

"The pattern now is one of persisting excess deaths, which are most prominent in relative terms in middle-aged and younger adults.”

They note that but no mention of the vixens, just the 'vid and other factors. It is funny how so many are selective in their outlooks in all of this when all are probably involved.

At least the mortality figures are down a bit.

I do wonder what this little nugget from X might mean for those figures and lengths of infection, as the Sars2 virus seems to be shifting which cells it is most adept at entering:

https://x.com/LongDesertTrain/status/1825137045662032199

'Pseudovirus studies show ~equal Ab evasion & infectivity for KP.3 & other variants. So why is KP.3 dominant?
KP.3 can barely infect cells previous variants thrived in, but it's 5x better at infecting cells w/a different arrangement of ACE2+TMPRSS2.
See superb 🧵...'

I suspect with KP.3.1.1, Sars2 may have just become better at 'hangin' about' in an individual after gaining an infection foothold, especially in weaker or fox modified immune systems - maybe entering it's teenager phase.

This is all very attritional :-(

The variant development is still a mystery to me. The early summer death wave coincides with the last wave of the virus. The sewage data didn't show anything special but it seems likely there was some kind of connection. I find it almost impossible to make any prediction of developments based on viral evolution (not that following it isn't important)

I agree. Nothing is very clear. What this set of tweets appears to show is the newest KPs are better at infecting certain lung cells and especially gut cells. This arguably could enhance its ability to cause more low key chronic issues but who knows!

I'm also finding it pretty weird that the US is seeing a lot of the virus still right now while the UK has fallen right back again - I'm guessing this goes for Europe too.

https://independentsage.substack.com/p/covid-situation-report-aug-22-2024?utm_campaign=posts-open-in-app&triedRedirect=true

"In the past week, daily Covid case rates for England have continued to fall, and are now well below the May peak."

It felt like the most cynical thing in the world investing in funeral services a couple years ago but i certainly feel validated...

I'm amazed this hasn't been picked up more. Guess the funeral biz is a little too good at discretion.

That was me you replied to...

Yeah, I've mentioned that I did that to a few people and usually the responses I get suggest that the idea of investing in death makes people uncomfortable. I mean it makes me a bit uncomfortable too. But come on, blatant market trend! I'm convinced I'm going to retire early off of mortuaries at this rate. (probably not, only half joking)

Week 159

Thank you, JMG, and thank you, forumistas.

It's wild out there.

Cetiosaurus

Here are the counts of the number of comments in all these covid open posts.

posts = c(718, 577, 642, 779, 1098, 922, 687, 871, 944, 1076, 621, 591, 823, 723, 852, 859, 880, 882, 754, 862, 962, 1103, 834, 881, 1091, 1054, 1547, 1508, 899, 801, 824, 603, 594, 696, 604, 686, 523, 502, 539, 685, 629, 674, 624, 852, 791, 815, 571, 842, 817, 668, 593, 629, 944, 728, 883, 606, 603, 742, 671, 447, 527, 730, 646, 601, 934, 741, 662, 502, 568, 520, 518, 488, 383, 569, 464, 595, 649, 469, 431, 322, 371, 317, 246, 266, 263, 215, 240, 212, 203, 329, 229, 210, 267, 225, 190, 239, 257, 193, 183, 142, 161, 238, 214, 176, 353, 283, 301, 287, 371, 306, 274, 359, 260, 255, 221, 191, 182, 276, 239, 180, 294, 217, 194, 222, 175, 204, 290, 240, 181, 147, 288, 344, 180, 218, 169, 184, 180, 156, 350, 242, 129, 181, 170, 190, 262, 145, 183, 174, 253, 237, 176, 231, 258, 108, 192, 153, 215, 163, 45)

Here is a plot -

https://imgur.com/a/efL12l6

It kind of matches daily covid-19 death trend -

https://pandem-ic.com/wp-content/uploads/TREND_8_Waves_comparison_deaths_US_diff.png?x48904

Interesting, after week 80-85 the numbers have been quite stable so that would be since about April 2023

Edward Dowd: "I don't think anyone is going to sign up again for a new untested vaccine anytime soon. And if they do, they'll be far fewer numbers this time and I think we have enough of a critical mass that we will resist any of this attempt of medical tyranny..."

https://nitter.poast.org/newstart_2024/status/1826202595175866421#m

short clip at link

FWIW, I keep tabs on a YT channel, Tarot by Izabela, a swedish lady who also uses the crystal ball on occasion. I'd say her accuracy hit rate is about 70% for her predictions.. plenty good for me.

She just did a reading on the up and coming moneypox and said at least 1/3 of western folks are too far gone to resist state programming instructions and will rush to get their shots. But beyond that, nope, the big majority ain't falling for it again. And also when they go full bore in pushing it, six weeks is about the max that they can sustain it before it falls apart. So just useful data points for me to monitor as it happens.

She also noted that certain folks have pointed out that many of the moneypox cases so far looks like a bad case of shingles, and we know that's one of the side effects of the coof vex ... getting shingles at a young age instead of 60's onwards.

What a coincidence you follow Izabela too. She has a small channel but I noticed too she has a good accuracy. Her video on the mon(k)eypox sounds plausible. (Off topic I think her recent vid on the UK was very informative too).

FWIW: Earlier you mentioned a gut feeling about social media. As it happens another psychic I follow (Joseph Tittel) warned yesterday that Spirit told him that FB and Instagram are secretly assembling a huge database that goes well beyond anything we have seen and even make connections through 'guilt by association' to find people with the same political ideas etc. The tracking system will be implemented during a worldwide 'outage'.

Please see the 2nd part of my comment.

https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/293286.html?thread=50599334#cmt50599334

The data is all warehoused already, so it's just a matter of sending the AI bots/algorithms with set instructions to trawl through and find certain targets.

The key issue is that the western 'system' is no longer "rational"... their mindset seems to be "if I go down, I'll bring as many down with me as possible". They are clearly too brain-damaged to see the writing on the wall, so instead of a managed gentle decline, they are opting for a hard crash for everyone.

I believe that there are critical tasks for all of us to undertake in the aftermath, but we have to make it through first. Do not be stressed out by unfolding world events, as the course of those are out of our direct control and we can hope that more rational actors will keep the collateral damage from being too extensive.

Maybe you're right we are close to the phase of lashing out. History shows it usually escalates very quickly. One moment things seem fine on the surface, the next moment people go berserk. It is strange to me as I don't recognize this lust for destruction in myself or what triggers it. But history has many examples.

Naomi Wolf also thinks that the moment could be near (https://naomiwolf.substack.com/p/thanatos). She makes a good point that it is not something one side does, but it is in all of society. Sometimes apparently it is time for another 'Wild Hunt'. I don't live under the illusion that if the communists had defeated the nazi's in 1932/1933 things would have gone much better. I'm also aware that the most of the pro-peace activists were ruthlessly prosecuted in their home countries in 1913 and 1914.

Edited 2024-08-23 12:53 (UTC)

regarding being close to something; i've noticed over the past month or so that coincidences/synchronicities seem to be happening to me at a increased rate. gonna sound a bit weird, but hey: i listen to radio paradise and have done so for a long time now, and once in a blue moon i get a sense of what the next song is going to be. prior to the last month, this happened, but infrequently enough for me to not really think much about it. during the last month, the frequency has increased enough for me to notice, and today was especially odd, in that it happened twice in a row, i.e. twice i knew what the next song would be. i've sometimes wondered if it's just an effect of fading a song out while the new fades in and i hear a note or 2 of the next song and my mind goes "deja vu!", but today, i consciously noticed a second of silence between the songs, then the song i knew was going to play. regrettably it was U2, lol, i can't stand them. but i do notice this in an increased basis, and the only interpretation i can come up with is that something of significance is just around the corner. /woo

Just a fwiw, Egon Fischer has discussed this a little with regards to the noted 'octave' change in the Earth's vibration that has already occurred. Via google translate - Through the energetic octave change, we become more energetically receptive to information from the spiritual world, i.e., in a broader sense, more "mediumistic." Sooner or later, the ability to perceive will expand for people who go through the octave change . One could also say that the "clairvoyance" (clairvoyance, clairsentience, claircognizance, etc.) will be activated.

That is, if one has also increased our own vibration in tune with Mother Earth. Everyone will do it at their own speed, though many will choose not to. Our different shell's adjust at their own speeds, with our physical body being the last, hence there will be a ton of aches and pains along the way.

Yes. It is not longer rational, as you say.

Early on in this forum we often discussed 2 + 2 = petunias. Maybe now it is 2 + 2 = chachalakas

I, too, watch Izabela's readings from time to time - she's the only Tarot reader on YT whom I feel a connection with. I haven't watched her lately, so thanks for the head's up: I'll need to rectify that soon.

Ron M

Thanks for this! I will definitely check in on Tarot by Izabela. I had no idea.

In all the years I've followed this blog, not a week goes by that I fail to learn something new.

As Cetiosaurus, above, kindly says week after week: Thank you JMG, and thank you, forumistas.

This place helps keep me, and no doubt others, encouraged and informed in trying times.

Interesting.
Thanks.

Top Study Confirms Pfizer Pushed ‘Bad Batches’ of Covid Shots onto Public

https://slaynews.com/news/top-study-confirms-pfizer-pushed-bad-batches-covid-shots-public/

Klaus Schwab Says ‘Era of Shock Events’ Is Coming Ahead of 2024 Election

https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/klaus-schwab-says-era-of-shock-events-is-coming-ahead-of-2024-election/

RE: unsupported claims made by an individual that Ivermectin is a reprotoxin are being used by that individual to attack physicians who treat with Ivermectin. Think for yourself- whose interests does this serve? If Ivermectin was a reprotoxin, given that it has been widely used for many years in Africa and the tropical belt around the world, where is the evidence of declining birth rates since introduction of Ivermectin?

https://nitter.poast.org/RWMaloneMD/status/1826266928723234983#m

--it'd be a heckuva liability for use in livestock.

LOL

Bought the VIM paste, injectable liquid, and sourced it from Europe in case the kids needed it. No problems every 4-8 weeks taking a tablespoon whenever the urge hits (plane travel or known dates of crowded environments). I notice nothing. 3 years ago in the middle of the panic I would take a teaspoon whenever I had to leave the house. Since I work from home this could be planned days/weeks in advance.

4 years post beer virus, never got it, never been sick minus 2 ~20hr periods where I 'felt' a cold coming on. You know that feeling like oh man tomorrow I'm going to be sick?! Both times I took VIM, and most of the flccc protocol and went to bed early and slept until noon the next day. Slightly fatigued, feeling maybe 70% and that was it.

I do still wear a mask on a plane. Not because I think its a magical barrier, but because it works. I travel a lot for business and I would get sick every second trip, on schedule for years. I decided I was sick (punny) of that and researched. 2 things were suggested and both worked.

A) wear an ionizer. That worked well until an uppity flight attendant, in one of the rare times I caught a free first class upgrade, threatened to deplane and arrest me because of the fire risk. 3 years with that not a single time did I get sick. Remember this is after an almost perfect record of a decade where I routinely got sick after travel, averaging once every 2 round-trips.

B) Moisten your nostrils. I had good luck doing this for about 3 years before the pandemic. The problem is that bottles that you spray only last 5 minutes. So the main thing that worked was something called AYR in a gel. The problem is...for me...I had to spread it on a finger and stick it up my nose. Pretty gross to watch someone do that in public, and it only lasted about 2 hours, so longer flights I'd have to do it on the plane, sometimes 2-3 more times.

So Covid hits, and I notice....way before any mandates, that if I wore a tight fitting mask with an exhaust valve (95-100), it achieved the same thing. While purging the air through a valve, it tended to trap moisture. To the point I wouldn't be desperate for the beverage cart, and in 3hr or less flights I wouldn't need a drink. That humidity more than any "virus barrier" is what I still bet on.

I kept a journal, but am too lazy to look it up unless challenged :). 10 years, probably caught a cold 20x a year. Almost 10 years post 'change something', I caught 1 cold post flight. This is including 3 years with an ionizer, 3 years sticking my fingers up my nose with AYR, and now last 4 years with a 95 or 100 mask that has a mechanical valve. There was a time when alaska air told me...that the valve mask was not sufficient because it did not block my exhale. When I demonstrated that no mask blocks the exhale I was told it was against company policy and that I would be deplaned. I placed a simple rectangular surgical mask...OVER, my good P100 with a valve mask and carried on, laughing later in the flight when one of the flight attendants was in the jump seat for takeoff, and had her surgical mask...below her nose.

Anyhow, the key, IMHO, is MOISTURE. Keep it very moist, and you will lower you chance of getting sick.
Its a mad mad mad world, and I have begun to just chill, and make home made popcorn.

Cheers, RQ

Regarding moisture in the nose.... mucosal immunity is the critical first line of defence for most air-bourne stuff. I think it was in the comments of Nakedcap, during the first few months of hysteria, where a healthcare worker chimed in to say that her regular protocol is to squirt Xclear up her nose after every shift, and she never caught anything from work that way.. and it also worked against the coof. The key ingredient in Xclear is Xylitol, a natural 'alcoholic' sugar. Basically the xylitol drastically reduces any viral load building up in the nasal passages... and your immune system does the rest.

So in the past year, I've learnt a lot more about Xylitol, mostly from a lady who advocates for it on YT videos and had set up a company selling products infused with it. Real life example - a pregnant lady had 2 major cavaties when she went to a dentist... she had strong sugar craving, so decided to chew xylitol gum for hours instead. It's a super low glycemic sugar, so one doesn't get the same sugar high as from normal sugar. A few months later during a subsequent visit to the dentist, both cavatie were gone. As in filled up naturally. Yet another 'something' which conventional medicine says is not possible.... Following that rabbit hole, I then investigated the benefits of doing xylitol 'pulling' instead of oil pulling, which is more tedious and has more steps. A small spoonful of xylitol.. swish around in your mouth, and overtime it reacts with increased saliva and the mouth becomes quite full. You can swallow the liquid.. or spit it out, but don't rinse the residue from your teeth, ideally letting it sit for as long as possible. It works well vs oil pulling in a pinch, but it doesn't get the teeth as clean as say, using sesame seed oil for the pulling. But the cavaty filling effect is definitely there, at the very least, tooth enamel seem encouraged to grow and unwanted teeth sensitivity is reduced significantly.

Anyways, if you feel something starting in your nose, squirting your own solution of xylitol should clear things up real quick, unless it has a serious toehold.

We've done baking with it, and the taste is fine. The benefit is the blood sugar management. Oh major caveat - you can't give it to your pets as they generally have problems processing such alcoholic sugars, like dogs and chocolate etc.

Had heard it was potentially useful before, along with Carragelose.
Now you've sold me - thanks.

I've lived for a long time in Japan, one of the countries where mask wearing was common before the pandemonium. I used to use them on occasion because I find that they do help with keeping the old mucous membranes moist. Specifically, I find that if my nose is plugged to the point that I end up breathing through my mouth, the mask keeps me from getting a sore throat. I also found them helpful in airplanes, where I would otherwise get pretty parched. So they do have some usefulness, irrespective of their general uselessness when it comes to preventing the spread of respiratory infections.

That said, now that masks have become a symbol of subservience and conformity to the new totalitarianism, I won't wear one under any circumstance. Ok, maybe while I sleep at night in my own home (where nobody can see me) if I get a bad head cold. FWIW I haven't had a cold that bad since before the pandemonium.

Hai Weilong,
It was in Japan that I was exposed to it. In the USA, you'd only wear a mask for toxic stuff. Mixing cement, etc. Being allergic to grass (I can smell cut grass and start to itch before you can detect the scent!) I found it queer that so many in Japan wore masks. Asking it was; minority they are sick but still coming to work, and majority, they were allergic to something in the air during that season and it really helped.

So in about 2015 I experimented by bringing home nice "allergy" masks from Japan and that was when I noticed things that I could do, like mow the lawn, I could. And what I noticed was how moist my upper respiratory tract stayed while wearing it for 10-20 minutes.

Another fact. About 15 years ago I was getting sicker and sicker. More sensitive to allergens. I had to take pills jun-aug else I would drip and sneeze all day. But I noticed that during those months the allergy pills were less effective, particularly if I had a stressful work week. Turns out, my wife had 2 cats, that would SLEEP ON MY PILLOW, and with us at night in our bed. I got the 50 pokes at an allergist's office. nothing, nothing, 0.5mm, 0.4mm, 1mm, nothing, nothing, holy c*&p its 2 inches wide and half an inch thick...for CAT SALIVA!

So to test it during a particularly bad allergen day. I decided to sit in the unfinished basement for 24 hours, while wearing a full on gas mask. Full face shield with large filter. Within 30 minutes I was better, and I slept like a baby. Ok so outside allergens push X on me, and the allergy pills give me X+10 protection. The cats added 500 to the mix and I'm hosed.

So after that Japan trip. I would wear a simple allergy mask...a simple search and this is the exact mask! https://japanesetaste.com/products/unicharm-softalk-white-3d-face-mask-regular-size-100-ct?redirected_from=int (not trying to sell this brand nor this site, just the pic and how it worked for me). Cat issues with the mask, plus preventing them from the bedroom eliminated the issue. This was the mask I started with, but it does not keep you as moist as a 95/100 with a valve.

Anyway weird to see how much is interconnected and were it not for a odd/rare Tokyo trip where I questioned my work colleagues on the mask and tried, I would have never gone down that path.

thanks, RQ

You got the ponypaste in Europe? Can you share where and how? I haven't been able to get it anywhere despite multiple attemps.

Here you go
https://www.amazon.com/Ivermectin-Paste-Horse-Wormer-Grams/dp/B00II3L6JK

You can also get ivermectin under the name "Stromectol" (for scabies)
https://telyrx.com/ivermectin-scabies-treatment

It's over the counter in some states such as Tennessee.

HCQ, hydroxychloroquine, is also good. And you can make it at home without blowing up the garage!!
https://www.simplyandnaturally.com/hydroxychloroquine-quinine-homemade-remedy/

If you need ivermectin and cannot get it, do not despair, there are other remedies, such as HCQ, that can help a bunch. Key is to stay hydrated, rest but don't overdo that, make sure to get up and move a bit, especially if lungs are congested-- and get the inflammation down. HCQ will do that.

As ever, there is chicken soup. I recommend it with lemon, garlic, and ginger. And I would recommend making it now, ahead of cold and flu season, and keeping it in individual portions in the freezer because when you need chicken soup, you sure as heck won't feel like making it. Canned chicken soup tastes like sheeit.

I am not a doctor, this is not medical advice.

CHICKEN SOUP FLOGGER

Here in Australia, a small group of senators were trying to get a Royal Commission into the lockdowns and vaccine mandates up and running. This effort has now been voted down in the senate.

As mentioned in the article, one of the Labor senators who voted against the bill went into a bit of a rant against kooks and conspiracy theorists.

https://canberradaily.com.au/just-in-australian-government-blocks-covid-inquiry-with-teeth/

(The Canberra Daily is a small community newspaper that occasionally runs covid sceptical pieces.)

Sorry to hear this.

Peaceful Freedom Convoy protester has all charges dropped after judge rules Charter rights violated

https://www.rebelnews.com/peaceful_freedom_convoy_protester_has_all_charges_dropped

FDA approves updated COVID-19 vaccines, shots should be available in days

https://apnews.com/article/covid19-vaccines-virus-pfizer-moderna-fb542f97096e9759059c0bdd82a48a74

FDA Approves Fresh Round of COVID Vaccines… But Americans Simply Aren’t Interested

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/08/fda-approves-fresh-round-covid-vaccines-americans-simply/

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