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Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 97

As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselessness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.

3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

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Okay, so this the second time that I've been trying to write a post here, and I've put it aside, and then something just drops into my laptop that does it all so much better than I could manage (thanks again God):

https://paulkingsnorth.substack.com/p/the-west-must-die

The last time this happened was a piece about "don't let them get away with it" by another author.

For mine, that includes not going back to a world wherein TPTB enjoy respect, obedience, and worship that they simply don't deserve. This will come as a surprise to TPTB, but they are not gods to be dutifully worshipped, far from it, they don't even have the character, competence, or intelligence for the jobs that they do have! So, they just have to go, and not just them either - the doomed civilization that spawned them also has to go, because it sucked, and it continues to suck, and it get suckier all the time.

And that's okay, nothing last forever.

The big question is what to do next? The latest essay I've shared above doesn't lay it all out, but it might give a few ideas.

It's not exactly the same as what I've been thinking about, but it resonates on the same frequency, plus I think the video in the link has some interesting ideas. Maybe even gives me a clue as to why I'm struggling to write things down - and no, I don't think it's covid-brain.

Anyway, after more than a couple of aborted starts, I'm pleased that I've managed to force myself to untangle a few words from the interconnected mush of ideas in my head to share the essay with you.

The Ninth Mouse

Too bad your link is behind a paywall. I dig Kingsnorth, but this need for him to get paid for his writing during these apocalyptic times keeps his voice out of the bigger conversation and keeps him boutique, and less helpful than it could be.

It's hard to write love letters to save the world but charge to read 'em.

Erika

Erika, those are his shower curtains. He should give them away for free?

Temporary Reality,
of course i understand but there are consequences and thus he will remain boutique and mis out and sit out the biggest conversation of all our lifetimes. it is what it is. we are alienated no corner bars, this is all we've got. he's sitting it out or at best his ideas will make it into the ethers via OTHERS and be misconstrued or re-interpreted.

of course i understand the need to make a living. i won't write for a dime on ANY of this. my service is to connect here until i feel irrelevant or no one cares or shows up.

this is a deeper conversation about what the internet tends to favor, and it'd be cool if people who paid/support were fine with sharing info for all in favor of a collective conversation to help get us out of this.

but substacks and internet formalities..well let's just say the internet is all about fake friends and hand outs and the tip thing is everywhere and gofund me... and those of us on this side of things are getting more and more broke because well...

we were already exiled.

so of course i understand but it's a reality and consequence and too bad for ALL of us and him because open conversation feeds the writer. and substack paid-only comments are anemic.

and as a writer i'd become a monkey for the pay. so my shower curtains are actually NOT my writing because my writing is raw me i can only wanna give free. my books..that's why the ART!

x

erika

Well said.

It's not paywalled for me. Here's the end:

"But the culture wars continue, and then as now the camps are well defined. On one side, the ‘woke’ tribe - that curious agglomeration of international capital and elite progressive opinion posing as an uprising from below - works to invert the culture as it crusades against everything that the place has ever been or stood for. In response, the ‘based’ tribe rises up to ‘defend the West’, but can never seem to agree on what it is defending. What is this ‘West’, after all? Is it an ethnic homeland, a religion, a set of principles, a particular economic or social model, or some other way of seeing or being? Nobody seems to agree.

"Surveying the ongoing demolition of the pillars of my culture, I am sometimes, in my worst moods, tempted to join the defenders of the West in their work. But when I have calmed down, I remember that those pillars are mostly rotten anyway, and that those attacking them, repulsive as they can sometimes be, are not entirely wrong either. Something has gone wrong with this ‘West’, and those who highlight its past crimes are getting at something that maybe even they can’t quite put their finger on.

"Like essayists trying to get to the heart of the matter, or poets scrabbling to take down dictation, it can sometimes feel as if all the discontents in our ongoing breakdown, wherever they think they stand, are motivated by the same sense of loss or confusion that Machine modernity has created as it has ripped us all away from our moorings. The right-populists who rebel against the bugs and the pod, and the left-green Extinction Rebels who stop the traffic because they want to stop the Machine, are routinely presented as opposites, but they look to me like manifestations of the same frustration. The progressives who rail against ‘whiteness’ and the traditionalists who refuse to be imprisoned in a fifteen minute city are taking a weirdly consonant stand against the same thing: a rationalised, profiteering, inhuman future that they feel is closing in on them without any means of escape.

"So if you ask me to help ‘defend the West’ now, I will reply that, though this place is my home and the home of my ancestors, I can’t avoid the reality that this ‘West’ birthed the Machine, and is building that inhuman future. Something in our way of seeing contained a seed that unmade the world. I have been examining this seed now for two years. Do I want it to grow? No. I want to uproot it. I want to say that this ‘West’ is not a thing to be ‘conserved’: not now. It is a thing to be superseded. It is an albatross around our necks. It obstructs our vision. It weighs us down.

"Sometimes, you have to know when to let go.

"‘The West’ has become an idol; some kind of static image of a past that maybe once was but is now inhabited by a new force: the Machine. ‘The West’ today thinks in numbers and words, but can’t write poetry to save its life. ‘The West’ is the kingdom of Mammon. ‘The West’ eats the world, and eats itself, that it may continue to ‘grow’. ‘The West’ knows the price of everything and the value of nothing. ‘The West’ is exhausted and empty.

"Maybe, then, just maybe, we need to let ‘the West’ die.

"Let it die so that we can live.

"Maybe we need to let this concept fall away. To let it crumble so that we can see what lies beneath. Stop all the ‘fighting’ to preserve something nobody can even define, something which has long lost its heart and soul. Stop clinging to the side of the sinking hull as the band plays on. We struck the iceberg long ago; it must be time, at last, to stop clinging to the shifting metal. To let go and begin swimming, out towards the place where the light plays on the water. Just out there. Do you see? Beyond; just beyond. There is something waiting out there, but you have to strike out to reach it. You have to let go."

IDK. ISTM you could try to figure out what that "seed" was and still preserve the valuable parts without it. Isn't that what has happened during other ages of decline?

i don't think it's kosher to post the rest of this when it's been paywalled.
i cannot read out of respect to Kingsnorth.
BUT i would honestly absolutely love to hear in YOUR OWN WORDS what resonated and what it brought up in YOU. that would be the first draft of you writing a piece, and thus continuing this conversation Kingsnorth has so beautifully ignited you.

i'm not being rude; i think you are actually being LAZY and not honoring his original intent by sharing YOUR PERSONAL resonance. we could EACH BENEFIT. that is the point i'm making. see the beauty of Papa being forced by our votes and his own RULES to write an excruciatingly painful but glittering alive insightfuly TRUSTWORTH (he KNOWS! he was THERE!) piece about agonizing boyhood in America when you're different.

i am begging and inviting YOU to share. don't just cut-and-paste. that is the laziness also ...made by the ease of the internet... it kills YOU, your individuality. it's why i won't i REFUSE to use emojis designed by sociopaths to convey the complexity of my humanity here at this juncture in HISTORY.

you cheat me of you when you let the internet's inclinations dictate what you SHARE. what blew your MIND. Kingsnorth isn't here, at least not out in the open, so YOU BE HERE. bring what he cannot did not want to for whatever reason.

i am trying to invite us all out of the internet's inclinations to fawn or troll. that's really why i don't want to court my own readers to my own site and why i don't accept comments. i've "belonged" to my fans before and it cheapened me to a point i must atone for it by fluffing up the party elsewhere, invited (allowed to stay) and using my actions and tests in the real to share with other crazies just waiting for their entrance! to do it YOUR way!

if you're here, you're a delightful freak of some sort.. you cheat me when you cut and paste... use his essay as a prompt a springboard that really highest diving board in the 70s that someone here on eco main i think said was the rite of passage if you went ahead or turned around and bailed! walk of shame!

so no harm done on Kingsnorth. i just think you posting it you MEANT to be kind but really FURTHER THE CONVERSATION, and so i'm begging you to please DO further this conversation in YOUR words.

see how this was an invitation to a deeper conversation more interesting than platitudes or blaming all your thoughts on Kingsnorth? give him a break. he's in seclusion on this piece and apparently it was so YOU could step forward.

please do.

see? MY work is to do this here and in person. the wilder i am, the less you'll feel embarrassed next to me and i'll get the best of you. i've done this before so that i can be the audience! i love watching amazing talent in action. it's...ENCHANTMENT to 11. especially hidden talent waiting to pounce on stage.

there's a line between selfish look at me shallowness and honest connection nudity... it's spontaneous and that SCARIEST thing to ME. scarier than picking fights that end up involving cops and many visits to court. that's a sugar high and a lifetime of apologies.

so write anonymous to start. watch how hellishly hard it is to write honest to YOURSELF even anonymously. that's a tragedy.

where the saying the player gets played is perfect.

this is also why, as agoraphobic as i've become regarding humanity now, i'm going to venture out and try and make a new world OFF LINE. and connect with other local biz venues for readings book art craft sales... whatever it takes to get off this device that has remade us in its sociopathic antisocial cut-and-paste AI image.

write back and i'll read even though it'll be monday before i can get to it. i'll return. use my name if you wanna be sure, mention "erika" and i'll do the search and find it.

x

erika

p.s. this is why i trust Papa G: he loves open conversation, lets people shred his ideas-- ideas must fight to live mano a mano--have punches from subscribers and freeloading haters with too much free time online. and Papa's immune to the fawning projecting and trolling. he's interested in IDEAS that're still standing after a weekend of brawling in an alleyway. nothing can be precious in writing or art.

who's "rational" now?

(wink)

Hey Erika,

Sorry for the confusion--

I'm the person who posted the excerpt from The Ninth Mouse's link.

I'm a different person.

I followed the link and it wasn't paywalled for me. there were links in it to other of his writings, and they were. So I guess each person can read one of his writings and then gets paywalled.

I posted an *excerpt* just to help you and The Ninth Mouse out.

I added my own small reaction at the end. But I'm not the person who originally linked it. So really, leave me out of this.

-The Other Anon

The essay wasn't paywalled for me either.

Sorry, I wouldn't have tried to share it if I knew people wouldn't be able to read it unless they paid - it's not that I really care if people charge for their wares, it's more that I'm NOT a salesman.

There's something about sales that I don't like. If you've ever had an old friend, who you've been stoked to hear from for the first time in ages, only to find that they're trying to get to join Amway or whatever, then you'll know what I mean. The products might be good, and the business might be legit, but the process. . . There's something creepy about the whole process that I just naturally recoil from.

I'm also surprised that there's a differential in access. It's a bit of a mystery to me. I don't know how these things work. Maybe it's country specific or something? Anyway, I know that some of Kingsnorth's stuff is free, and some isn't - that's how it is for me too.

Kingsnorth's essay is good, but so is the video in the link (sorry JMG, I know you're not a fan of video), which is available for free on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4IeuIg9nGY

It's pretty interesting. The blurb reads:
"From the left-brain right-brain divide to the metaphysics of magic, Dr Iain McGilchrist addresses the profound questions of living well. The esteemed thinker was in conversation with Freddie Sayers at the UnHerd Club on 20th April 2023."

McGilcrhist has written books too, including: 'The Matter of Things' there's a blurb about it on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Matter_with_Things".

It looks like it could be a long and complex read at 1,500 pages and two volumes, but there might be more easily digestible stuff out there somewhere for free online that he's written.

The Ninth Mouse

Any thoughts about my reaction to the essay? I'll repeat it here:

ISTM you could try to figure out what that "seed" was and still preserve the valuable parts without it. Isn't that what has happened during other ages of decline?

Sorry Erika, as I've written to anon below, I didn't know the words would be behind a paywall for you, and I could access them for free so I assumed that would be true for others.

I'm mindful that you may be feeling a bit down on him asking for money for his stuff, and you're entitled to your views on that.

I don't pay for anything I read online. Hell, you'd have to twist my arm to even get me to sign up for anything online, let alone pay.

Now that I got that out of the way. . .

I don't think Kingsnorth really sees himself as trying to save the world - he's been criticized for not jumping on that bandwagon before.

So, is he trying to do something other than trying to make a living by writing entertaining stuff and what-not?

Well, whatever he's up to, if anything, I can't do it justice right now - I start writing, then I delete everything and start again. . .

Rinse and repeat.

This seems to be happening to me more often now, so I'm going to just leave it alone.

I will say that I rate him highly.

Everyone else can make up their own minds, or not if they don't feel like it.

Phew, I made it to the end of something - time to press post comment before I start over!

The Ninth Mouse

Dear Ninth,
Thank you and I'm sorry you're struggling with articulating your screams.

(Smile)

I did go back and listen to the Iain McGilchrist interview and James is gonna read his books, but for all that talking McGilchrist didn't wouldn't and couldn't be specific and kept things theoretical and vague so as not to get into trouble in his career, and thus I myself cannot take anything he says seriously as a player.

Such folks won't further inspire you to go wherever you'll need to go, so beware all that prattle doesn't enervate you.

Smarts mean little anymore if they can't squint into the real light of day.

I see why I didn't come back here to a beautiful long essay from you.

Dare to mess your pants and don't re-read before posting.

X

Erika

...and i'm not down on Kingsnorth for demanding pay; I simply ignore him unless someone links to him because he's writing for different reasons than I want to READ.

Erika

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