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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2023-02-07 12:15 pm

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 79

They LiedAs we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselessness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Re: Jab Status of Blood Donors?

(Anonymous) 2023-02-09 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
Original poster here... I also have not had Covid, in spite of living in a metro area at the height of the pandemic. Part of me wonders if Covid is actually real as such, and not just a misnomer for a garden variety illness.

Re: Jab Status of Blood Donors?

(Anonymous) 2023-02-09 05:02 pm (UTC)(link)
My opinion is that the virus that caused covid-19 was a real "novel" virus, but that the danger was grossly exaggerated.

I had covid - I came up positive on home tests, and my husband, who had the same thing, came up positive on a clinic test as well, when he went to get antibiotics for a secondary sinus infection.

I'm pretty sure that what I had was a new illness, in the sense that it WAS slightly different from similar cold/flu viruses I've had in the past. The tell-tale thing for me was that, in additional to "normal" cold/flu symptoms like fatigue, dry cough, congestion, low-grade fever, and did I mention the fatigue, I had a complete loss of taste and smell. With other viruses, my taste and smell might have been affected and dulled a bit, but covid gave me a complete loss of both senses - as in, the only way to tell hot tea from cold orange juice was the temperature, because I literally could not taste or smell ANYTHING AT ALL for about a week, and it took another two weeks to come back. That's never happened to me before in over half a century of this incarnation, hence my feeling that it was a new strain of bug.

My opinion is that covid was "real", but had the novel virus hit a few decades ago, it would have been treated as just a bad strain of cold/flu virus, with some click-bait news articles about this year's cold/flu strain being extra-dangerous to old and sick people, and some news coverage of the "bad flu season", reports on nursing home deaths being above average, public-service reminders to stay home when sick and wash your hands, etc. And people sharing stories of the rough cold or flu they had, spent days on the couch, couldn't taste a thing for two weeks, my poor gran wound up in hospital for a week and my wife's great aunt actually died, they weren't kidding about this being a bad flu year.... And it would have gone down in history as "the bad flu season of 1990" or some such, with a slight upward tick in mortality for a year or two, followed by a year or two of slight downward ticks in mortality, to reflect the deaths that were "pulled forward". And in another year or two, the only people who would have remember would be medical personnel and people who lost old/sick people a bit earlier than expected during "that bad flu year we had."

Instead, a new, slightly-worse-than-usual-for-the-care-home-set, bad-flu-season-this-year virus got turned into the apocalypse, for reasons that I doubt any of us fully understand.


Re: Jab Status of Blood Donors?

(Anonymous) 2023-02-10 11:40 am (UTC)(link)
My experience was that it was like a garden-variety flu, albeit for me the fatigue was greater than usual at the onset and the headache (which I don't usually have with colds or flu) was intense, prolonged, and very strange. I can only describe it as sort of electric.

Re: Jab Status of Blood Donors?

(Anonymous) 2023-02-10 08:57 pm (UTC)(link)
"had the novel virus hit a few decades ago, it would have been treated as just a bad strain of cold/flu virus, with some click-bait news articles about this year's cold/flu strain being extra-dangerous to old and sick people"

It would've been that way because click-bait hadn't been invented yet.

Sawdust

Re: Jab Status of Blood Donors?

(Anonymous) 2023-02-11 10:28 am (UTC)(link)
Click-bait is just modern language for something that's always existed.

It used to be news-preview snippets on TV ("A dangerous new flu is killing nursing home patients!!! Should you be worried?!! Full coverage tonight at 8 on National News & Drama-mongering R Us!!!") and buy-me-at-the-news stand headlines in papers ("Doctors Say New Flu Most Dangerous One for Elderly in Decades - Full Report on Page 4") and buy-me-at-the-grocery-checkout weekly news magazines ("The New Flu and You: A Full Report"). Etc.

Same idea. I just used the modern term "clickbait" as a catch-all term instead of spelling everything out, assuming people would understand what I meant. Maybe I shouldn't have assumed that.

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Re: Jab Status of Blood Donors?

[personal profile] stcathalexandria 2023-02-10 03:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I think this a lot of days. All the evidence for covid comes to me from experts. Everything I see with my own eyes is nothing other than a cold or bad flu. I still don't know anyone who died from covid. I know a hundred drama queens and kings who still post a picture of their positive test results to social media (one just this morning in fact). I feel like I'm in some kind of crazy dream space many days still with so many work people so committed to covid.