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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2023-01-10 01:34 pm

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 75

ironicallyAs we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselessness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion. 

Re: Big Picture Questions

(Anonymous) 2023-01-12 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
All three of those hypotheses are accurate. Which one might be most accurate? That's very hard to say.

The demonic efflorescence we're living through on this planet at the moment is very much a result of divine influences. There are both disturbed gods as well as plenty of fallen angels behind the current pathetic state of affairs.

Then there is the spiritually-sanitized materialist worldview that gave us such delightful boons as unfettered capitalism, sprawling industrial waste, and the ever-popular The Science™. That demonic worldview seems to specialize in creating malevolent institutions, which have been engineering mass insanity for centuries now. Materialism’s disciples and handmaidens can be viewed as independent actors or as tiny cogs in its huge grinding gears.

Given that it is humans who have become so demon infested of late, humanity's propensity to mass insanity appears to be playing a not insignificant role as well. As far as I can tell, squirrels haven't been succumbing to mass delusion or shredding their social contract any more than usual. Even lemmings only end up falling into suicidal frenzies when disturbed human scientists force them into it (so as to conform to their equally disturbed theories.)

It’s a bit of a chicken-or-egg question. These three imbalances all arose at about the same time — is any one of them causing the others, or are they all simply reflections of each other? It’s worth pondering, but infinitely more visionary and magical is putting our energy into contemplating how the world looks as those three imbalances naturally fade back into a more balanced equilibrium.

— Christophe

Re: Big Picture Questions

(Anonymous) 2023-01-13 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
I find it amazing that photographers such as Edward Burtynsky document the Anthropocene
- 'awe'-full (in a weird way) landscapes of industrial waste, etc...
and few in the 'cultural milieu' who celebrate his work
would think to relate it to their own body.

It's almost as if 'demonic influence' or 'social madness' abstract the whole thing, saying
'The more the merrier' to
processes of 'gunking it up.'

Re: Big Picture Questions

[personal profile] lukedodson 2023-01-13 04:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Fits with the both the suicidal misanthropy of the PMC, and the vastly inflated view of humanity's importance that usually goes along with it.

The 'Anthropocene' has always seemed uber-cringe to me. Makes me imagine angels watching us and wincing - "they're naming a geological era after themselves now? oh mercy..."

Re: Big Picture Questions

[personal profile] kashtan 2023-01-13 05:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I remember when first learning about geological epochs, before the term anthropocene was ever used, thinking that the holocene being its own epoch was on shaky ground. The pleistocene epoch was dominated by ice ages but also included numerous interglacials with climates similar to the holocene, and none of those was considered a separate epoch, so why was the holocene so special?
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Re: Big Picture Questions

[personal profile] frittermywig 2023-01-13 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks, Christophe. You and Kimberly Steele (above) both use the chicken-and-egg analogy. I guess it's not really super sharp analysis on my part to say, 'well, it has either a material or a spiritual ultimate cause.'

Maybe it's my utilitarian upbringing that wants to fix this mess we're in, and to do that I want a proper diagnosis of the situation. Fixing broken stuff and fighting bad people seems an easier path than being patient and prayerful.

Re: Big Picture Questions

(Anonymous) 2023-01-13 11:12 am (UTC)(link)
I also want a proper diagnosis of the situation, but from what I have been able to ascertain, much of the problem is emergent phenomena, behind which are very human people incentivized within corporate and other bureaucratic and social structures, just doing what they do, trying to get ahead, make money, fit in, stay safe.

That said, it's a huge chunk of info that firstly, the jabs are turning out to be anything but beneficial, and secondly, that the US DOD is behind the manufacturing. So then the question is, what's behind that?

My own take, as I've said before on this forum, is that there are also nonhuman entities involved, influencing human beings. But our ability to sense these entities, never mind comprehend them, their powers and/or motives, is extremely limited. Some of us have psychic talents. But I can assert this being, someone else can assert that being, and round and round we go. I'm not saying any given person is wrong, necessarily, but we might as well argue over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

So then the question really becomes, given that at some level this all remains very foggy, and may remain so in large part for the span of our lifetimes, how to proceed? It's not impossible, but of course, it's tricky. I'm hitching my wagon to the wisdom of the human heart. It can see in the most important ways. And I believe that we can all see much farther than we think we can. I work on it every day. And do the laundry and wash the dishes.

Self-described Psychic Medium