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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2023-01-10 01:34 pm

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 75

ironicallyAs we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselessness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion. 

(Anonymous) 2023-01-12 05:31 am (UTC)(link)
I can't wait to hear their theme song! I'm assuming they all sing in different keys at not quite the same time, with an occasional syncopating gasp, as one of them dies suddenly. Since they're mostly just grumpy Christians, nostalgically reworking the rituals from their over-regretted youths into something they hope is edgier and hipper than what it was modeled on, maybe they could just take one of the unfondly remembered hymns so cruelly forced on them at such a tender age and turn it into a toe-tapping ditty for their favorite fallen archangel. OK, that's a fun idea — excuse me as I go look for the most hackneyed hymns malingering around from any one of the times in the last century that Christian revival tents were all the rage across the US.

Oh my, there were some truly dreadful songs! Something clearly went very wrong in Western Christianity in the 1960's! I'm no longer sure I can actually blame these people for looking to satan to rescue them from that kind of torturous drivel.

I think my personal nomination for satanic-temple-club theme-song would have to be that unforgettable blast from the past by the one hit wonder Friar Peter Scholtes. Yes, all you hep cats who answered "They'll Know We Are Christians by our Love", you're really keeping up on your ecclesiastical trivia, aren't you? And what says satan better than that liturgical classic? Any satanic-temple members who have never managed to expunge that particular earworm from their memory banks will only have to learn a few new words to have a ready-made dark-lord chant up and running for all their public cursings:

We are one in the [mandates]. We are one in the [dark] lord.
We are one in the [mandates]. We are one in the [dark] lord.
And we pray that all [conformity] may one day be restored.
And they'll know we are [satanists] by our [blood], by our [blood].
Yes, they'll know we are [satanists] by our [blood].

We will walk [on] each other. We will walk [jab] in hand.
We will walk [on] each other. We will walk [jab] in hand.
And together we'll spread the news that [death] is in our land.
And they'll know we are [satanists] by our [blood], by our [blood].
Yes, they'll know we are [satanists] by [the clots in] our [blood].

OK, for anyone who found themselves unexpectedly inspired by that heartfelt rendition and for some unknown reason wants more, there are in fact two more scintillating verses to the original, so by all means unleash your muse and have at it!

— Christophe

Re: Possible scenario for large and quick* narrative collapse

[personal profile] team10tim 2023-01-12 05:46 am (UTC)(link)
I think that we will see narrative changes coming from court victories this year, but it will be a mixed bag. The FOIA from the CDC's safety tests is huge, but hasn't been in a single MSM article yet. On the other hand, the grande jury in Florida has subpoena and indictment powers and DeSantis's position and popularity guarantee the dirt will hit the press.

I'm also hopeful that Elon Musk actually has the goods on Fauci or that Joe Rogan or Tucker Carlson will push something far enough that the MSM can't ignore it.

Re: Ecosophia Prayer List Update

(Anonymous) 2023-01-12 06:06 am (UTC)(link)
Dear Jen,
I don't know much about humans but believe their milk supply will be much like that of a sheep. I keep dairy sheep and I do know a lot about their lactation. I am guessing this is your first lactation which, were you a sheep, would be your smallest lactation. A ewe has as much milk as she is going to have when she lambs and there is no amount of feeding special mashes that will increase that one bit. Also, your milk production will not be the same in both breasts.

The main thing is that you got some colostrum into her. Bottle feeding, as a supplement or as her only feed is not ideal but it will be good enough. Your next lactation should be a lot more ample.

Please don't be disappointed. Lots of babies through the ages have been bottle-reared. There are even some lovely bronze-age baby bottles in Europe of ceramic or bronze that have the chemical signatures of heated milk in them. We have been bottle-feeding for ages.

Hugs and best wishes from Maxine

Re: death rates

[personal profile] team10tim 2023-01-12 06:10 am (UTC)(link)
I think this has more to do with Russian gas.

https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-environment/3602202-europeans-risk-death-by-cold-for-green-folly-and-we-could-be-next/amp/

"A combination of utopian climate initiatives, inflation, a decline in American fossil fuel production, and an unwillingness to buy Russian oil or natural gas could lead to as many as several hundred thousand deaths across the continent this winter."

Historically excess deaths go up by 1.5% for every 1 degree celcius drop in temperatures. But this winter people are turning down thermostats because they simply can't afford it.

Re: Possible scenario for large and quick* narrative collapse

(Anonymous) 2023-01-12 06:58 am (UTC)(link)
The problem with Nixon is that he had an old-fashioned sense of shame for the Watergate break-in fiasco. For subsequent Teflon presidents, Clinton, Dubya, or Obama, it would be like water off a duck's back.

Quercus

Re: This an wild speculation threat it as such

(Anonymous) 2023-01-12 08:15 am (UTC)(link)
Is going to be a mess in IT down the road. A lot of unpredictable AI, unmaintained and unmaintainable automation, a lot of centralised infrastructure.

Layoffs based on politics rather than competence, in software US reigned supreme expect this to go down the drain too in the next couple of years.

(Anonymous) 2023-01-12 08:46 am (UTC)(link)
https://twitter.com/DavidWolfe/status/1612994071362146309

video about how to threat coincidences

a lot of memes on the thread too

Re: Possible scenario for large and quick* narrative collapse

(Anonymous) 2023-01-12 08:59 am (UTC)(link)
That's how it looks now, and especially to consider: what has WashPo & Co. had to say about anything other covid, other than what amounts to "shut up & git yer vaxx"?

But, to quibble, I wouldn't say the ivestigative journalism "was shooting fish in a barrel" so much as it was taking the spoonfuls of Gerber.

Something is changing...

(Anonymous) 2023-01-12 09:05 am (UTC)(link)
Yesterday, I received a Whassap from a friend who hasn't been pro-vaxxes in the past, but she's been changing her mind. It was a tik tok video debunking the COVID Narrative. I've send it to many people, even rabid pro-vaxxes, and there hadn't been negative answers to it. Something is changing...

-A Spaniard.

(Anonymous) 2023-01-12 09:33 am (UTC)(link)
That meme: Maybe better:

"Coincidentally, that's why I'm here."

Yesterday my 4x jabbed uncle got diagnosed with a blood clot in his foot. Extremely dangerous, obviously, and extremely painful he says. I pray that he heals.

Natural Remedies

(Anonymous) 2023-01-12 09:36 am (UTC)(link)
re: "what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries."

Over and over what occurs to me is that, whenever possible, it would be best for me to utilize natural / home remedies, not something that comes from Big Pharma. 

Speaking of which:

"Hundreds of ‘Tylenol Lawsuits’ Allege Retailers, Manufacturers Knew Acetaminophen During Pregnancy Could Cause Autism, ADHD
Hundreds of “Tylenol lawsuits” already have been filed against retailers and manufacturers of acetaminophen — but that number could soon reach into the thousands, according to an attorney who spoke to The Defender."
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/tylenol-lawsuits-acetaminophen-pregnancy-autism-adhd/

AI and this pandemic, death by AI

(Anonymous) 2023-01-12 10:22 am (UTC)(link)
It seems to me that there is a lot of AI in this Pandemic

AI is capable of creating a molecule
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-03977-w

AI is capable to create a more lethal virus or the euphemistic gain of function
https://www.wired.com/story/can-an-ai-predict-the-language-of-viral-mutation/

AI used during lockdown
https://hbr.org/2022/03/why-ai-failed-to-live-up-to-its-potential-during-the-pandemic

AI used on forums and social media
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-01202-3

And I don't know if you can bet your farm there was a some covert activity where the AI wasn't ethically limited.


A lot of the SF looks at AI destroying the world by becoming better than humans and thinking they are useless.

I am thinking if there are some SF stories where AI is dangerous because it looks intelligent is actually stupid and by the time everyone figures the mistake on relying on it systems start to crumble everywhere and no one knows why.


Also as many have said the AI could be posessed by some nefarious spirits, how you might have said, it is
possible in a few ways, the training set of the AI is skewed malefically, I see three major ways:

- via science, there is a possibility that science is skewed a bit and the whole data of the scientific egregorum could be less neutral and skewed toward harming, via Paperclip, MIC, etc

- via the managerial class choosing the domains where the AI is applied.

- via those that determine the training sets and the AI limitations




Vaxx Injuries

(Anonymous) 2023-01-12 11:20 am (UTC)(link)
URGENT: 17 percent of teenagers had heart symptoms after their second Pfizer mRNA jab, a new peer-reviewed paper shows
1 percent had abnormal ECGs; 1 in 1000 had myocarditis or significant arrhythmias.

by Alex Berenson
Jan 11, 2022
https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/urgent-17-percent-of-teenagers-had

Re: We Now Have Key Evidence Pfizer Committed Fraud

(Anonymous) 2023-01-12 11:30 am (UTC)(link)
Which raises the question, which antibodies got those with health problems after the shoot.
Did it work as planned or are their problems the result of the misfiring

[personal profile] lukedodson 2023-01-12 11:31 am (UTC)(link)
Good to know the Satanists are being consistent with their faith...

(Anonymous) 2023-01-12 12:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Here is a short clip from a vaccine injured man.

https://twitter.com/oneadds/status/1613254691600666624

It occurred to me that no politician (despite the fact that they all claim to be jabbed and where filmed doing so) seems to be vaccine injured. Now, obviously many of them were filmed being 'jabbed' without a needle or was a saline solution injected instead?

It seems to me they knew the jabs were not safe and declined the jabs but presented us with the theatre instead so the plebs would be dutifully jabbed up the wazoo. If this could be proven, it would be a game changer and it might make some NPCs wake up.

PS I did hear a rumour that Gavin Newsom went AWOL post jab and may have been vaccine injured, temporarily.

Re: This an wild speculation threat it as such

(Anonymous) 2023-01-12 01:08 pm (UTC)(link)
How many months do you have between lost health and getting dropkicked out the door? 6? 8?

Job or jab, job or jab...

Re: State of Hospitals

(Anonymous) 2023-01-12 01:21 pm (UTC)(link)
The last report I got on the state of hospitals a month ago or so:

- running on immigrants who can barely speak any english
- grossly mismedicating patients and probably killing some of them
- those immigrants are working 12hr shifts

If you go into a hospital, you better have someone who loves you to look after you, because odds are good they'll kill you these days.

I wonder if there will be any hospitals around at all in a few years, the rate and direction things are heading? Where do you start to fix this, because most of this is man made retardedness.

(Anonymous) 2023-01-12 01:25 pm (UTC)(link)
When you're too "evil" even for Satan? Oh no, if you don't wear a mask, you might go to - ?

(Anonymous) 2023-01-12 01:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Well strictly speaking he was just saying "wealthy businessmen" and not "WEF attendees at Davos", the internet is just full of clickbait, ain't it?

But I do find it amusing that the tables are turning and being unvaccinated is now a positive and desirable thing, especially when it comes to something critical, like being at the controls of an airplane.

Watch what people do, not what they say.

Re: Update

(Anonymous) 2023-01-12 01:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe this is Universe telling you it's time to find a new religion?
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Big Picture Questions

[personal profile] frittermywig 2023-01-12 01:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm trying to formulate for myself, as precisely as possible, The Foundational Questions of the Covid Age:

Covid's arrival brought two distinct crises to the world. One, the abject failure of social institutions to safeguard their citizens' health and rights. What may have begun with incompetence and corruption became outright criminality with lockdowns and vaccine mandates. Two, the mass insanity of the citizens themselves, who celebrated --even demanded-- those corrupt and criminal actions.

How did this begin? Did the people's mass insanity give license to institutional malfeasance? Did malevolent institutional actors somehow engineer the mass insanity? Or was there an independent factor behind both crises, perhaps a spiritual force?
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??? Re: Haiku

[personal profile] homeopathic_meditations 2023-01-12 02:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry, what's with the bad/dark moon? Is this a literary figure or you are talking about real, astrological phenomena?

Again, I apologize for asking. But I have noticed you are not the only one using that expression and I notice there's something I am not grasping out of it.
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Re: Ecosophia Prayer List Update

[personal profile] scotlyn 2023-01-12 02:40 pm (UTC)(link)
By all means, Slink...

What called my attention to this one a couple of years ago was a throwaway line in one of Stephen Buhner's pieces on treating Covid with herbs... where he said something to the effect that he had always had very little confidence in the nettle seed thing until a colleague brought two people back from the brink of kidney failure using it. I've tinctured nettle seeds every August and Sept since then.

Best wishes, and your friend is on my prayer list. Also, I was happy to hear you've done so well!

Re: This an wild speculation threat it as such

(Anonymous) 2023-01-12 03:45 pm (UTC)(link)
>shed the least productive and most disruptive people from the payroll

As perceived by management. Which often has an inaccurate perception of reality. That's part of the process of decline, firing the wrong people.

>people took it to keep their jobs and now they're losing them because they took it.

You are hardwired to "roll the dice and hope", even when it's statistically better to take the loss.

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