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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2022-11-08 01:46 pm

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 66

Smudge for the winAs we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.     

Re: QR CODE

(Anonymous) 2022-11-11 07:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I had no trouble figuring out who was posting, there ;)

Re: QR CODE

(Anonymous) 2022-11-11 07:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I have a smartphone, but it's so old it doesn't automatically read QR codes. I have an app that's supposed to let it, but it just...doesn't always work. I can't imagine I'm the only one. -Ochre Shabby Sea Serpent

Re: Spain registers a death excess and the Health Minister doesn't know why...

(Anonymous) 2022-11-11 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm keenly interested and read Spanish a little... but it looks like that requires a subscription to see the article :(

(Anonymous) 2022-11-11 08:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Send an inquiry to the FB group you're interested in. Be honest: "Hey, my kid is only 9mos, so obviously I'm not homeschooling yet, but I'm interested in what's going on in the area, local hs resources, and possibly meeting other homeschooling parents with young children-- also looking for crunchy-compatible pediatrician recommendations. If this isn't the right group, that's OK-- do you know where else I might look?"

that way, you're not lying to anyone, and the group admins may be able to help even if they don't think you joining the group is appropriate.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-11 08:05 pm (UTC)(link)
You might also poke around and see if there are any "crunchy mamas" or "preschool nature play groups" in your area, whose FB groups you might join.

Once you've joined such a group, odds are good you don't even have to ask about local doctors, just search the group for the last eight people who've asked and read through the comments ;)

Re: Unexpected Truckers Commission News Flash

(Anonymous) 2022-11-11 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Ugh. The idea's already being floated by lefty talking heads.

It'd be the perfect ticket, of course. Whoever's running things still gets to run things untrammeled without ever facing an election. And if you object, you're ableist.

Re: International Travel Ban

[personal profile] hearthspirit 2022-11-11 08:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, exactly, we have the same problems being the proxy war ground between the US and China.

Allow these two links to speak for themselves:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-lab-security-experts-1.6059097

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-china-election-interference-1.6644411 <-- well, actually that one you need to look closer at the photo caption to understand the game.

If it helps, I'll share the prayer I made at our Remembrance Day ceremony this morning, which got a good strong blow.

Since I saw that omen of the lawyer meant to uphold fairness and lack of bias in our Emergencies Act Inquiry collapse, I worried our judicial system was clearly under malicious magical attack - I mean, when Hillary Clinton collapsed, that's what had happened, right? People took credit for it on certain internet forums afterward, though I guess who knows whether they really had that power.

Anyway, so when they named each of the war dead - after the bible reading (quote linked below)- and rang the bell after each name, I prayed:

"To those who stood on guard for us before, please aid us again against attacks on our bodies, minds and souls.

Lend us your strength. Let each bell peal our gratitude and genuine committment to you that you did not die in vain, lest we forget."

It might work similarly in other Commonwealth countries.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-11 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
and my uncle died of a heart attack shortly after receiving the Chinese made vaccine while living in the Philippines

Re: Eisenstein - The Mask of Derision

(Anonymous) 2022-11-11 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I’d argue that while they did mainly focus on punishing individuals, they also DID understand the psychology behind the moment, and they DID put guardrails in place. The rails just lead to places few of us here would agree with. The people who learned the lesson learned it well. They just aren’t healthy individuals.

Murmuration

Re: Dr John Campbell

(Anonymous) 2022-11-11 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes that was a great video. His latest is great too. The title is "Myocarditis, good news". Turns out the good news is that Covid doesn't increase risk of myocarditis. This leaves of course the question open what causes the increase. Dr C wisely only mentions the question and leaves the answer open. As a commenter put it, he is great in dancing around landmines...

Re: Unexpected Truckers Commission News Flash

(Anonymous) 2022-11-11 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Or maybe Fetterman is a perfect symbol of the moment, a stroke victim. Maybe he’s a way to say “strokes are no big deal, this vax damage is no big deal. La la la la la”.

Damn. This one sucks.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-11 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Damn. This one sucks. Kevin Conroy, the voice of the BEST Batman. A short battle with cancer.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/beloved-batman-voice-actor-kevin-conroy-dies-after-cancer-battle

(Anonymous) 2022-11-11 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Sotomayor denies relief for NYC workers from vax mandate

I was dating a Hispanic attorney when Sonya got nominated to the SC and remember how excited my gf was at the time, like anything was possible.

How sad that the Justice has morphed into a scientifically illiterate establishmentarian prune

Re: WORDLE

[personal profile] boccaccio 2022-11-11 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, low-level battle fatigue will be in play too. Grief will add to it too. I just heard of a 54 year old friend of a friend who died suddenly from heart failure. The second one in my circle. Plus two cases of turbo cancer, one dead in two weeks, the other probabely terminal. And only the unvaxxed dare to ask the unmentionable questions (among each other only). It must be strenuous.
Edited 2022-11-11 21:39 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2022-11-11 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't worry about the fact that your child is so young-- in another 4 yrs it'll be time for kindergarten already! Time goes by faster than the speed of science! I would think that homeschoolers would be welcoming and helpful to the degree feasible. I would just state the matter plainly, for example, "my child is only 9 months old but how time flies, would love to start thinking about options and whatever elese I should be thinking about for homeschooling." etc.

It never hurts to ask. Many doors may open for you!

And if anyone's a jerk, well, better to find it out now rather than later.

Hope this helps.

Re: WORDLE

(Anonymous) 2022-11-11 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Interesting - another intellectual who comprehends that we are living on 'Spaceship Earth' who also appears to have rejected the official vax narrative. Funny how all of the thinkers that I respected before the events of the last few years for their ideas on ecological matters are on broadly the same page on this issue as well :)

If one doesn't try to 'grok' things and isn't at least a bit of an 'anarchist' by disposition (for whatever reason) then one will probably always comply slavishly with the 'authorities' no matter how stupid and flawed their knowledge claims and diktats happen to be on a given issue.

That sort of independence seems rare though - especially where I live. And I'm not even all that radical really, it's just that I'm not a total sub, so that tells you something.

Anyway, I'm sure most of the time unthinking obedience is adaptive in modern society, otherwise most people wouldn't do it. The price for it though is that every now and again the groupthink goes awry, and we get a Bay of Pigs, a Space Shuttle Challenger, a global EGT campaign, industrial-technological civilization. . . :P

The Ninth Mouse

Re: angry and scared about election results

(Anonymous) 2022-11-11 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
>Very much so, to the point that while I will no longer vote blue, I also won't vote red.

I understand. I voted some of each and some third party. (And I'm the one who wrote in "A yellow dog who opposed mandates" for town council.)

>[DeSantis] and Trump have had a bit of a falling out since the whole election-denial business.

Your linked article doesn't say so, but if that is true, it's a shame. I'm also not a fan of your question-begging way of referencing the situation, especially since AFAIK every related court case was dismissed on a technicality rather than being y'know actually heard. I understand that legal eagles felt insulted by the Trump crowd's failure to assimilate legal cultural forms, so felt happy to dismiss them on technicalities (striking a blow for professionalism!)...but, well, that's the problem.

Abraham Lincoln became a lawyer by reading the law on his own time and then taking the bar exam. You used to be able to do that. Now you can't. If you bring that up with a modern lawyer, they like to laugh at the idea of anyone ever trying such a thing. They like to emphasize the value of law school and the work lawyers put in to get through it and how lawyers are a profession and their professional knowledge is valuable.

Of course, the knowledge you can demonstrate on the bar exam always has been knowledge. In Lincoln's time too.

So it's not *that* kind of knowledge. Then what is it? It's cultural knowledge. It's knowledge of the counterintuitive cultural traditions that have grown up within legal professions since then.

Again, I understand why someone would want their investment of time and money into law school to be respected and valued. But I do not think the point of making laws was to create an arena that is counterintuitive to the point that the only way to succeed there is to pay big bucks to a professional. That it has evolved into such a situation is, again, actually the problem.

This accretion of complex unwritten rules which modern professional lawyers are (understandably, they're difficult) so proud of having mastered...strikes me as an example of the sort of added societal complexity that our host has said is unsustainable.

And thanks for the article! It does seem good.

>Florida also used the end of Roe to pass a compromise 15-week abortion ban, bucking the trend of states moving to opposite extreme positions on the issue.

Aha.

I noticed they also included an exception for fatal fetal abnormalities. Very important especially to the kind of purple-voting moms who might be at higher risk for such problems (starting later, having a caboose, etc).

Through loss support groups I know a lot of moms who have encountered prenatal diagnoses of problems. Some do choose to carry the baby to term and then watch him/her die, but many would rather spare the baby and themselves that pain.

BTW. You can diagnose increased risk for some such problems around 10 weeks (NIPT), but you can't be sure the diagnosis is correct without an amniocentesis at 15-20 weeks (and results take a while to come back). (CVS, which can be done at 10-15 weeks, is not as accurate as amnio.) So 15-week abortion bans have the risk that people will terminate healthy, wanted pregnancies because of "high-risk" NIPT results; an exception for fatal fetal abnormalities reduces that likelihood.
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[personal profile] stcathalexandria 2022-11-11 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
It looks like Twitter is imploding and if it does, there goes the source of a lot of anonymous sourced news. The little bit of opposition to everything covid occurred through Twitter who allowed a wider range of speech than Facebook/Instagram/Meta ever did. Through the Birdwatch user provided context for official tweets, people were able to get the Whitehouse to delete some of their propaganda tweets they put out.

I'm really concerned that If Twitter goes down, there goes the easiest way to pass information about anything or counter the official narrative in real time. I could see censorship moving to the Apple/Google level quite quickly and easily where people's emails and text messages will be screen and deleted before they even received them (or people locked out of their accounts for wrong speak).

It's already so hard to find websites anymore, that if I don't have an URL saved for something, I can't just search for it. That happened with Dreamwidth as we all just saw.

Elon could be controlled opposition taking down an effective communication platform, or he could just be a clown, idk. Either way, I'm truly frightened of a world where the only information I get is from government sources or the corporate press.

Re: Eisenstein - The Mask of Derision

(Anonymous) 2022-11-11 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
"If destructive and dehumanizing movements take on a life of their own and become bigger than, more powerful than any of the human beings involved, does it really solve that much to put some humans on trial for crimes against humanity? Or might it be more helpful to have their *ideas* and *motivations* put on trial as well?"

That sounds like a slippery slope right there. Yes, Nazism and ideologies of all sorts should be scrutinized and picked apart intellectually. And yes, the mass movements that go along with them exist and how they work on a psychological level should also be scrutinized. But in the end the best response of civilization to such things is to highlight once again the need for and value of individuality and integrity. That's what individual accountability is about.

The preceding is a very strong theme that runs through post-Holocaust Jewish philosophy. Emil Fackenheim, not without controversy, wrote: "In Germany the Jew was not the ominous 'other'; in Germany the Jew was the proverbial 'girl next door,' the family acquaintance, the classmate, the colleague. [...] To face this truth requires a maturity that would surpass every temptation at self-justification."

Re: Eisenstein - The Mask of Derision

(Anonymous) 2022-11-11 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I just had the image of guardrails like on ramps in rollerskating rinks that lead to unexpected, unmapped d-e-s-c-e-n-t-s......

Re: breaking the binary

(Anonymous) 2022-11-11 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Ang Lee made a very good movie about Missouri, a border state with substantial (perhaps majority) pro-southern sympathies.

And as for the changing populace - not sure a month's worth of hardtack and beans is gonna replace 'take out' to most people's (soldiers') satisfaction.


Re: breaking the binary

(Anonymous) 2022-11-11 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
And it does take a toll. I once met an Iraqi writer, she'd been through the mill, she said to me, 'I was once like you.'

Meaning I suspect, for all intents and purposes, unscathed.

I'd had a wild ride in my youth so the word 'street' was there in my self-identity but she punctured that balloon with gravitas.

Fox recovery

(Anonymous) 2022-11-11 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Greetings!

Are there any protocols out there for fox recovery? Could anyone provide a pointer?

Thank you!

(Anonymous) 2022-11-11 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
The final line has so much subtext packed into one little three word sentence -- it's quite extraordinary! The entire clip could be viewed as a subtle argument against blanket amnesty, acted out to give the last sentence proper context and meaning. Brava!

- Christophe

Re: WORDLE

(Anonymous) 2022-11-12 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
What if it is the reverse phenomena - that by refusing the vax completely, the unvaxxed became alive in a new way?

The vaxxed didn't change, we did who refused it.

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