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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2022-11-01 11:47 am

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 65

the reason whyAs we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.    

(Anonymous) 2022-11-03 05:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I've been saying for years, humans are just smart enough to get themselves into trouble but not smart enough to get themselves out. I don't know how far we need to test that theory but surely they could find something better to do with their time?

(Anonymous) 2022-11-03 05:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Thoroughly enjoyed Mary Harrington's essay. Will read Emily Burns' article as well. Thanks for the links, and agreed: The worm has turned, and this will not be pretty. JMG's counsel to refrain from casting in our lots with extremes feels especially important just now. Time to strive to be centered. What a test this will be.

Valerie

Re: Emily Oster says 'Let's forgive and forget'

(Anonymous) 2022-11-03 05:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I think you're conflating very different kinds of harm. For a government action to deprive someone of their liberty or livelihood for no good reason is in a whole different sphere than for a private citizen to deprive someone of social opportunities for no good reason. There are people around here who think that anyone who behaves/d differently from them in any way - examples, getting vaccinated or wearing a mask at property owners' request - has committed some sort of crime against something and deserves punishment! It's therefore essential to draw lines and recognize that some actions are criminal in nature but others, even if hurtful, are not.

In the U.S., it is extremely hard to punish government employees via the courts for anything they do in the performance of their duties. Our courts have said a police officer can't even be sued for letting his dog savage the face of an innocent random homeless person because no historic court ruling had said that precise act was unconstitutional! So while it would be nice if the bureaucrats who *forced* hospitals to fire people for being unvaxxed could serve prison time for their role in wrecking American health care, it's very unlikely to happen - unless corruption can be proven, or unless we end up with a star chamber where whatever the judges say becomes law.

As for people getting fired by private employers for not getting vaxxed, in the U.S. you can get fired for almost any reason. Do I remember correctly that you are in Germany? Your employer probably cannot throw you out to starve at the drop of a hat, so it seems shocking to you. Here, that happens all the time.

What This About

(Anonymous) 2022-11-03 05:59 pm (UTC)(link)
In the last week pieces of what may have drove this are starting to fall into place. I mentioned in the last Ecosophia Open Post about Robert Malone's post on the National Defense background to the mRNA vaccine technology - https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/mrna-vaccines-the-cia-and-national

Now more is showing up. In the Brownstone Institute, Debbie Leran writes that it was the National Security Council, and not HHS or any other agency, that lead the policy on the response to Covid-19. Operationally FEMA and DHS took over. In other, there was no one actually in charge who knew about disease control. https://brownstone.org/articles/governments-national-security-arm-led-the-covid-response/

Paul Alexander has written that when he was at HHS in Washington as a COVID Pandemic Advisor, he saw that the US military were very involved with Operation Warp Speed. https://palexander.substack.com/p/governments-national-security-arm

In other words, the Covid vaccines were basically a bio-security version of the disastrous Lardbucket (F-35 fighter plane).

John of Red Hook
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Re: Our friends (?) at Foozer

[personal profile] scotlyn 2022-11-03 05:59 pm (UTC)(link)
A few years someone I know was in a similar position. Her mother had died of cervical cancer when she was a teenager, and she had lobbied for more funds to be invested in a preventative vaccine. Then someone she knew suffered a debilitating adverse effect to the vaccine, and now she was trying to decide whether to sign a consent form for her daughter to receive it. When the stakes are always phrased as "disease vs vaccine", and now you personally know someone who has suffered from both, choosing what is best for your child is like traversing a minefield.

An intriguing one from Sage

(Anonymous) 2022-11-03 06:14 pm (UTC)(link)
An intriguing one from Sage. What is the virus?

https://sagehana.substack.com/p/ex-pharm-whistleblower-sasha-latypova

Re: “The King” Testifies

(Anonymous) 2022-11-03 06:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I say the same.

Cetiosaurus

(Anonymous) 2022-11-03 06:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, proposing "amnesty" didn't work, so back to demonization!

https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2022-11-03/are-the-unvaccinated-still-a-danger-to-the-rest-of-us-covid

I haven't heard this tone much since last winter.

Jonathan.

Re: Regarding the image shared

(Anonymous) 2022-11-03 06:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I think if a politician in the US-- state or federal-- did something like this, they could have re-election in the bag forever, and never spend another dime campaigning.

You have died of...

(Anonymous) 2022-11-03 06:54 pm (UTC)(link)
"You have died of..."

We were joking last post about "You have died of Suddenly" or "You have died of Undisclosed Cause".

You can add "You have died of Lengthy Illness" to the list, apparently.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=ray+guy+cause+of+death&cvid=2816818ef2cb4d75b3069ac1b7108835&aqs=edge..69i57j0l3.2695j0j4&FORM=ANAB01&PC=DCTS

Oops?

(Anonymous) 2022-11-03 06:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Oops?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/covid-booster-may-lower-protection-against-omicron-reinfection-study-finds-here-s-why/ar-AA13Hyo8

Re: A village surgery lab c 1920, 1930?

(Anonymous) 2022-11-03 06:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Charcoal powder is a good thing to have on hand for this. It's largely what they'll give you in the ER, if you've swallowed a bunch of pills and you're not sure what they were. Possibly other things as well.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-03 07:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Is your nuclear powered laser pointer having trouble?

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/02/us/politics/russia-ukraine-nuclear-weapons.html

Try the new and improved UFO laser pointer!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/prepare-for-alien-encounter-now-before-it-s-too-late-warn-scientists/ar-AA13FGhp

Re: I declare victory

(Anonymous) 2022-11-03 07:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Walking away from this rigged game run by demonic clowns is just the first part. Having the imagination to create or find the means build lives worth living is the next part. I agree on checking out the main blog. JMG is getting close to two decades worth of essays on "here are some tools, figure out what works for you," plus a lot more sane perspective on where we are headed.


yes, Coyote Girl- YES. walking away is the first part, having the imagination AND ENERGY TO CREATE OR FIND THE MEANS TO BUILD LIVES WORTH LIVING IS IS IS THE VERY NEXT PART!

why i'm speaking to the visionaries to bypass the distraction of "whether to forgive or not" and remain angry like holding onto an amulet isn't gonna cut it in parsing out baby energy to what we need to come up with NEXT.

my form of forgiveness is encapsulated in that Mad Men line where the guy says, "what do i think? i don't think of you at all."

you've taken your ENERGY and "gone home."

and yeah... you so get it where Greer is taking this all.

thanks, Coyote Girl.

x

Re: Emily Oster says 'Let's forgive and forget'

(Anonymous) 2022-11-03 07:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Damn!!! I even heard the music when I read this. Kumite indeed. A cinematographic Van Damme like beating is the least that some people deserve.

Re: Is this source credible?

(Anonymous) 2022-11-03 07:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I had heard the "rise in stillbirths in Waterloo, Ontario" claim before, though I don't recall the source. That one was like 20+X normal.

Here's what NTD claims to be about (from their "About Us" page):

>NTD is a New York-based, global television network founded in 2001 by Chinese-Americans who fled communism. They understood that independent media are crucial to a free society. So they created NTD to bring the world uncensored and truthful information—no matter the cost.

>We remain free from all external influence—whether from political, financial, or special interests, and cover stories that others don’t. Our arts and lifestyle programs embody universal values, and celebrate the best of humanity’s culture and traditions.

>NTD stands for New Tang Dynasty. The name is inspired by the noble legacy of the Tang Dynasty (618-907 C.E.), which is considered the golden age of Chinese spirituality and civilization. It was a time of peace, freedom, and openness. Admired the world over, the Tang Dynasty was known for its high moral standards and unparalleled cultural achievements.

-Ochre Shabby Sea Serpent (and thanks for keeping tabs on this!)

Re: Is this source credible?

(Anonymous) 2022-11-03 07:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Their LinkedIn page describes them (or him?) as follows:

"RAIR Foundation USA (Rise Align Ignite Reclaim) is a grassroots activist organization comprised of everyday Americans leading a movement to reclaim our Republic from the network of individuals and organizations waging war on Americans, our Constitution, our borders and our Judeo-Christian values. RAIR is an integrated media platform amplifying the voices of the silent majority, while informing the citizenry of the daily assault on American freedoms and fostering grassroots leaders and activists in order to combat the threats from Islamic supremacists, radical leftists and their allies. Using RAIR’s “Four Pillar” strategy of Education, Community, Action and Coalition; RAIR’s grassroots-based approach empowers citizens to neutralize these attacks on their communities."

But they only have one "employee" listed on LinkedIn, so he's going to have to work overtime.

If he wants us to believe that (a) this was a real event and (b) it was caused by the vax rather than sad coincidence or local exposures, then there should have been similarly huge spikes in stillbirths at every other maternity hospital in the U.S. and every other heavily vaxxed country, beginning a similar number of months after lots of younger women got vaccinated. You wouldn't need a leaked email from a single hospital in California. There'd be (or have been, at the relevant time) a conspicuous nationwide shortage of baby coffins, to be very blunt, which should not have gone unnoticed. Many families hold funerals for late-term stillborns. If those had gone up 1000%, the mortuary directors would have been yelling their heads off.
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[personal profile] scotlyn 2022-11-03 07:33 pm (UTC)(link)
And why, why, why would they do such a thing?

(Anonymous) 2022-11-03 07:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Glad someone is having fun
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Re: Tracks in Space, Alone Together

[personal profile] scotlyn 2022-11-03 07:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you, Murmuration, that sounds like a good theme.

Re: Forgiveness rant / Transcript du jour

(Anonymous) 2022-11-03 07:42 pm (UTC)(link)
The video in this post should be tagged as:

🤣🤣🤣

Re: Emily Oster says 'Let's forgive and forget'

(Anonymous) 2022-11-03 07:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Good point! You've reminded me of the time Brendan Eich was forced out of his job after it was publicized that he had, something like 10 years before, made a donation to a political cause that had won.

-Ochre Shabby Sea Serpent

Re: A village surgery lab c 1920, 1930?

(Anonymous) 2022-11-03 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Probably working on the same principle as biochar: it absorbs lots of stuff!

Re: Emily Oster says 'Let's forgive and forget'

(Anonymous) 2022-11-03 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Coercion to accept an unsafe new vaccine is bad, but not as bad as genocide, as you obviously agree. The Nazis could be prosecuted because they'd committed international crimes, and crimes against Germans under the laws of the land that prevailed before they seized power and tore up the laws that inhibited their ability to persecute whom they would. The people who were prosecuted and imprisoned, though, were those who had actually committed crimes or war crimes, not those who had merely been party supporters. Concentration camp guards, not anti-Semites. And not ordinary soldiers, because under the laws of war, just participating in an invasion is not a war crime. (Yes, we have people now in a concentration camp for defending themselves from an American invasion. I guess what that says is that the victors make the rules, and some clearly hope that that can be applied to peacetime conflicts too.)

Re: Is this source credible?

[personal profile] dendroica 2022-11-03 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
No idea if the source is credible, but anecdotally there was just another stillbirth in my circle of acquaintances last week which puts the stillbirth rate among pregnancies I have been aware of in the last year at close to 50% (2 out of 4).

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