ecosophia | Two More JMG Podcasts

While the price of oil bumps along around $110 a barrel and we wait to see which part of the global economy will come unglued next, here are two podcasts for your listening pleasure.

First off is the Doomer Optimism podcast with Jason Snyder, Ashley Colby, and Steven Morris. This is a classic conversation touching on a lot of themes I've been discussing for years, mostly about the twilight of industrial society and what comes next. You can listen to it on Anchor.fm here --

https://anchor.fm/doomer-optimism/episodes/Episode-25---John-Michael-Greer-w-Ashley-Colby--Jason-Snyder--and-Steven-Morris-e1f3gqe

-- and on YouTube here --

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9w6tyWV4Us&t=418s

Second in the lineup is Appleknocker Radio with Jeff Suwak. Our subject is my recent book The Twilight of Pluto; Jeff's an experienced astrologer, and so we were able to cover a lot of ground and keep it lively and interesting. You can check out the conversation on YouTube here:

https://youtu.be/LELzAW92zUA

Give it a listen and enjoy!

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I think Artificial Intelligence, NLP and Fusion is also plutonian.

Re the second podcast there: As someone who was indoctrinated into this civilisation, I also struggle to accept the notion that our lives aren't leading anywhere. After acquainting myself with the myth of progress I dove headfirst into spirituality as a way to make a purpose from the suffering that I find life to be.

I may be misinterpreting here, but isn't your discussion about our lives as not going anywhere and the universe as not having a purpose contradictory to the notion that over lifetimes we experience enough so that we eventually do not need to enter into incarnation anymore? Is that not our lives leading somewhere, fulfilling a purpose?

Here is something on the population bust: https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2022/03/american-population-growth-rate-slow/629392/

Given that Ceres was upgraded to dwarf planet status, (also in 2006) the anecdotes you related in the Jeff Suwak podcast are compelling

Just listening to the Doomer Optimism podcast. Brewing a batch of beer (lawnmower ale) and I might as well spend the time writing a comment to your discussion while I figure out the actual heating characteristics of my front left burner on the heating required for a three gallon batch of ale.

I hope that you won't be offended when you see the length of this comment, I haven't posted on my account for a while after a serious infestation of trolls and I have a bit of "writing constipation".

I have always leaned heavily toward the idea tha fusion is a "subsidy dumpster". the only difference between your view (no chance in hell) and my view (<1% chance of meaningful advances in twenty years) is trivial. A minor difference, but I do buy the occasional lottery ticket (a tax on people who are bad at math).

I am trying to figure out how old geezers like me are going to fare in the ongoing future of less. Luckily, I have spent the last fifteen years or so trimming away the vanities from my life. I have a nice little studio about a quarter mile from the Willamette that runs me around 29% of my meager retirement income. I have a feeling that things will change and my life will become progressively more constrained.

When you listen to your discussion, I am intrigued by your discussion of the occult/spiritual world. I think that the way that you discussed the nature of money and the limitations/strengths of spirituality was spot on. I suppose that I agree with you on the bulk of it, the only difference would be that my interest is to just figure out how to keep the bulk of what is considered the "occult" at arms length. I know in my heart that this kind of thing exists. I just want to figure out how to get some understanding of what the pros/cons are of the occult. I suppose I just want to be a spectator rather than a participant. I mostly want to understand out to get keep out of their way.

I giggled about your dissing the idea of "intentional communities" Being older than you (born in '53) and having friends who went and joined a hippie commune and ran away screaming (they were aghast at the idea of physical work). I grew up on a 40 acre mixed farm (20 head of dairy and a truck farm). There was nothing more motivating to study and go to college is the simple act of your grandfather handing you a hoe and a sharpening stone and pointing at a five-acre field of sugar beets and telling you to have it weeded before you can hang out with your friends.

That's all for now, getting ready to toss the grains into the pot. I have nearly perfected my one-pot, one fermenter brew system. I'll keep you posted on how it goes

Two More JMG Podcasts

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