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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2022-02-22 02:04 pm

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 29

alone in winterThe semi-open posts  I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a very high number of comments -- to understate the matter considerably! -- so I'm opening yet another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, as Canadian officials launch a campaign of reprisals against citizens who supported a peaceful protest against government policy, and the words "died suddenly" become the favorite media euphemism of our time, the floor is open for discussion.   

(Anonymous) 2022-02-23 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
There have been quite a few of those of late. Do you think that this means that most of the pressure to get vaccinated is over? I'm holding out, but would really like it if the pressure could go away.

(Anonymous) 2022-02-23 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
I live in Ontario, and it's not waning here yet, but I think a lot of pressure will go away come March 1 when our local vaccine mandates start going away.
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[personal profile] vitranc 2022-02-23 06:22 am (UTC)(link)
A report from Austria.
- Since the 22. January when the foxxing law got pushed trough parlament and the news coverage was enormous it went on for about a week, but then quieted down, and the signing in of the law by the president was very quiet.
- I did not even notice it at the time, but the first week of February was already beginning to be quieter. You really had to go digging to find something about implementation or an appeal to the constitutional court.
- Second week of February there was some talk about the state governors expressing concerns about implementing the fox inaction law in practice. And there was an expert meeting with the prime minister concerning if the fox inaction mandate is even necessary. I the result was a lacklustre “meh”.
- this week there is almost no coverage. It is old news. Mind you most restrictions are officially still in place, but there is not even a mention of anything.

It really looks like the hyped foxxing mandate was the high water mark for the push.

On a more individual scale. I have had a lot of people state in private that they regret taking the shot. One can hear the realisation there is something wrong in their voices.

(Anonymous) 2022-02-24 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
Well, according to the traditional lore, demons can scare you, but not harm you. Aside from certain groups, for the most part, the vaccine intake has been voluntary, and it's amazing how much of the really intense things people were saying would happen never did. So I wonder if this is another piece of evidence for the demon hypothesis...
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[personal profile] sinners4diseasecontrol 2022-02-23 12:55 pm (UTC)(link)
In Japan, they are pushing the booster as the only way to be safe with omicron. They are beginning to vaccinate the 5-11 year olds for the first time this week, saying it's for granny's safety. Officially, about 80% of the adult population is vaxxed I think, about 90% of the elderly.
They are getting some push back on the boosters. Many want to see how things turn out before taking one. About 50% of respondents said they were concerned about side effects. Not many had questions about efficacy. The number of cases declined notably after the summer vaccination campaign was completed, so the vaxxes looked effective, though vaccination coincided with what was then the highest spike in cases to date. Quite a large number experienced severe immediate side-effects, however. There is a certain degree of shaming involved, but it has not been as severe as in the Eruo-Anglophone world.

(Anonymous) 2022-02-23 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, another factor is that if they release the pressures and allow life to go back to normal, all the people cowering in fear will have a much harder time: how do you avoid maskless people if no one bothers with them anymore? How do you avoid the unvaxxed if no one bothers with it anymore? How do you avoid crowds if people stop caring about it?

All in all, I think removing the restrictions would be a good way to dramatically increase the misery and dread from the true believers...

(Anonymous) 2022-02-24 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
This is a good point. All those people who were exhilarated by the whole thing are going to have to go back to normal life again. No more saving humanity. No more exterminating viruses. Just back to everyday life which will feel completely without meaning and importance. This will be especially hard for the office fauna if they are made to start commuting to work again after sitting on the couch for two years.
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[personal profile] lp9 2022-02-23 06:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I use a not-very-private internet browser on my work computer. Each time I open a new tab it provides me with a screen full of the latest mainstream media stories. Every day there are numerous stories relating to someone dying suddenly. This morning it included: singer of "Whiter Shade of Pale," a 31-year old "America's Got Talent" singer, philanthropist Neil Balnaves, a New Orleans student, the Amazing Johnathan stand-up comedian, and 27-year old Miss Alabama. And that's just today.

Another highlight from today's tab is the following article: "'My Doctor Gaslighted Me Into Believing I Was Fine. In Reality, I Had A Rare Autoimmune Disorder'"

From a non-mainstream media perspective, you can track many of the "died suddenly" stories here: https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/in-memory-of-all-those-who-died-suddenly?utm_source=url

(Anonymous) 2022-02-23 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Inn a related vein (ha), I don't usually watch TV, but I was over someone's house when they had the TV on.

Saw a public-service commercial about recognizing the signs of deep vein thrombosis and "not waiting" to get to the hospital as quickly as possible should one experience those signs.

First pubic-heath notice about recognizing deep vein thrombosis that I've ever seen in my lifetime.

I've heard that certain novel medical treatments are linked to deep vein thrombosis.

But I'm sure it's just a coincidence.
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[personal profile] open_space 2022-02-23 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
“Watch ye therefore, because you know not the day nor the hour.” (Matthew 25: 13)

[personal profile] the_copper_dragon 2022-02-23 12:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Im not sure that the influence actually is demonic, it may appear to be demonic or something else, however the true nature of these beings is a mystery considering they don't make appearances often and when they do it's strictly to cause pandemonium and torture the "marked" for a short while, 5 months or so, and leaving shortly before the main event kicks off. They may come from the depths at the command of an extremely powerful Angel. There's no indication that they're Evil, however by no means do they bode well. We probably can call them energy vampires of some kind, but not too sure. Of course I'm refering to Revelation chapter 9 (KJV) for further reading if anyone is interested.

(Anonymous) 2022-02-23 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
So this brings up a question: Rod Dreher, who is someone who knows that demons exist, takes great pains to avoid them, and is deep into Eastern Orthodoxy, and daily participates in all of the prayers, rites and rituals of that religion, and, thus, I would assume, gains a degree of protection from demons from this practice. He also took the vaccine. What exactly would end up happening to him, or people in his situation?
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[personal profile] methylethyl 2022-02-24 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
Totally apart from the religious aspects of this question, IIRC Rod has a chronic Epstein-Barr thing going on... and I have seen in other sources that prior EBV infection seems to have some pretty gnarly interactions with the vaccines. That's cause for concern out in the mostly-material world.