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Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 29

The semi-open posts I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a very high number of comments -- to understate the matter considerably! -- so I'm opening yet another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.

3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.

With that said, as Canadian officials launch a campaign of reprisals against citizens who supported a peaceful protest against government policy, and the words "died suddenly" become the favorite media euphemism of our time, the floor is open for discussion.

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Go Insurance Companies!!!!!!Go!!!!

(I'm picturing Insurance Company cheerleaders lol)

The lifting of the requirements happened five hours after a lawsuit against Mayor Wu, the city of Boston, & Boston's director of Public Health was filed in federal court by an attorney named Richard Chambers. The suit hasn't been dropped, either, last I heard, they were asking the court to determine what (if any?) statutes the restrictions were based upon, so nothing similar could happen again.

We all know vaccines are a leading cause of coincidences. Maybe lawsuits are, too?

Reading tonight a little bit on the hunters lodges popular in the 1830s in the u.s. Seems to be commonalities the situation in Canada and the United States today. Hunters lodges were aimed to liberate Canadian colonies from tyranny of British thralldom. Counted on support from borderlanders. Military generals of the time complained they couldn't do anything because so many officers favored the cause of the hunters lodges. Reasons Americans join these lodges we're in part due to an idealistic belief in Canadian independence. They lost, but they were a kind of freedom fanatic of the time.

What's interesting to me is that protest in Canada were partly funded by people from the United States. Protest seem to be again about liberating Canadians from tyrannical thralldom. And at first at least the regular police didn't want to deal with them and seemed to be sympathetic.

JMG noted commonwealth countries that didn't reject British rule are going through a kind of hard tyrannical push by their governments currently.

The sentiment in the US that Canadians could be free from tyranny is potentially a useful tool here.

My local news website has started allowing comments questioning the safety of the vaccines. They are still censoring the more robust skepticism but previously any mention of less than 100% safe and effective would have result in having your account permanently banned.

The tendrils of the creeping terror have begun to push aside the manhole cover of willful ignorance.

I might feign a limp, wear a Guy Fawkes mask and lifts in my shoes, and surreptitiously pass an envelope with a couple of twenties to a trucker at a truck stop. Perhaps I'm over-reacting, but personally identifying details (from some money I donated to the Canadians on GiveSendGo) were stolen and publicized on the dark web. No consequences yet, but, just like it was supposed to do, it makes me nervous, surrounded by true believers as I am. Remember this story folks, and oppose the idea of a central bank digital currency with everything you've got. It's being floated more and more, and it fits hand in glove with the infrastructure required for a vaccine passport system.

My nervousness must mean I should double the amount I give to the trucker in the diner!

The Weather Channel didn't want to report the weather in case somebody misinterpreted it.
Ha. rrrrigghhhttt........

I was raised Jw and married to one now. Jws do say this frequently. It's one of their opening lines to pique your interest in their cult.

I have for some while imagined that such a thing might befall Sweden, Florida and other jurisdictions not sufficiently observant of the sacred Narrative and its holy hypodermic sacrament. Those who flout the commandments of the great god Progress are liable to receive much divine punishment, as all right-minded people will readily affirm.

I see the comments in her online meeting did the job!

This list should be printed out and tacked to everyone's fridges and bulletin boards!

1] Check - I live in Canada so ask me why I know this!

2] Double Check! - Particularly true if they are liberal/left white women or Gay men. Not sure why but I live in a neighborhood full of them - in Canada (full disclosure I am a Gay White Man)

3] Triple Check - Because Capitalism!

4] What can I say? Invasion of the Body Snatchers - my doctor is someone/something else now.

Liam in Toronto

How do people here deal with the stress?

For the last 2 years I have cycled many times through the stages of grief - except denial, I never had that problem.
I know this is normal and I know that we are living through the biggest change in our societies since at least the second world war - probably way before that.

But I wish I can soften up the effects of the bad stages - depression and anger. I am trying to limit my internet exposure to the weekends. I never watch TV or read MSM. I am keeping busy. Besides working from home, I am building up our homestead, preparing the garden and teaching the kids.

I am also trying to read history and old books, and learn a new language (latin, so I can read about another collapse first hand).

And yet, there are days when I wake up in a panic and other times when the anger is so bad it spills out on my family (nothing big, but I feel bad).

So what are other people doing? I remember some Christians saying: be in the world but not of this world. Is this the right approach? Detachment, focus on our little worlds and trying to develop spiritually? Easy to say but I am no good at it.

Thank you!
NomadicBeer.

That article really is a turning point! Seeing a leftist intellectual icon suddenly re-embrace religion seems very telling that the second religiousness is indeed upon us. Hopefully it will be a tame, interfaith kind of movement.

There have been quite a few of those of late. Do you think that this means that most of the pressure to get vaccinated is over? I'm holding out, but would really like it if the pressure could go away.

That "40% increase" is an increase in a very small number. Life insurance for young adults is very inexpensive, because so few of them die (especially, I suppose, those mature enough to buy life insurance). For an insurance company, a 40% increase in pay-outs means that they need to raise premiums 40% to break even, which would be a shock to their customers. But for most of us... well, how many young adult deaths are you personally aware of? A low rate, multiplied over a large population, will come up with a big, scary number, but consider the recent figure of "about 1 million excess deaths (of all ages)". In a population of 350 million, that's one person in 350. One death is a tragedy, of course, but a million is just a statistic.

Lathechuck

Happy Birthday!

The Liberals of Europe are both (temporarily) ashamed and (secretly) jealous because Justin got permission to do it first. They wanted to be the chosen ones to sit on Uncle Klaus's knee and be told what good little boys and girls they are for trucking up their country.

But don't fret for them - they'll soon get their chance.

Liam in Toronto

I’m astounded you can still get a money order in this way. I’ll try my local grocery when I can. If there are any other venues that offer them, I’d be glad for someone to suggest them.

Doh! Here I've been wondering how I could anonymously donate . . . Thank you!

I'm obviously not JMG but IMO fears of war are overblown. (For now.) Russia doesn't want war and neither does Europe. There's likely a great deal of backdoor negotiation between the two which stalled, resulting in yesterday's events, another round of negotiations will follow, and Putin will keep upping the stakes until Europe caves.

That might be difficult to pull off, if there wasn't actually a variant, since at this point there is a lot of attention being paid to tracking and genomic sequencing of variants.

I could envision them "discovering" some "new" virus that is rather benign and already present in almost all humans, and using *that* as a cover for vax damage. "The deceased tested positive for Sudden Cardiac Death Virus 2022 (SCDV-22). The virus appears to already be widespread in the population, so we could be facing a very large wave of heart attacks and cardiovascular problems in the months ahead."

It probably wouldn't actually work, since anyone could dig up old frozen samples and discover that they test positive too, but that's not to say it couldn't happen...

Mark L

There has been an overall periodicity to this virus with a period of ~130 days. If that continues late March would be the low point of the next ebb and the time at which the variant that will dominate the next wave will become apparent. Assuming March-April 2020 was the first wave, the next one would be the seventh.

Mark L

It seems to be waning in many places, certainly. Here in Rhode Island, most of the gimmicks meant to pressure people into getting vaccinated have been quietly folded up and put away. The governor is claiming success, with 80% vaccinated -- given that Rhode Island has a culture of corruption and genial disregard of the laws dating back to colonial times, my guess is that it's a lot closer to 50% foxed plus 30% who have fake vax passes. But your mileage may vary depending on just how invested in Covid hysteria your local government and/or employer happens to be.

Thanks for the data point. Where are you located, if you don't mind my asking?

I know that the Biden administration desperately wants the Russians to invade the Ukraine, to distract attention from the total failure of Biden's economic policies and the blowback from the vaccines -- and it wouldn't surprise me if Biden's handlers were also hoping to use such an invasion as an opportunity to destroy records in Kiev and elsewhere that might cast an unwelcome light on Hunter Biden's economic entanglements there. I'm also quite sure that Putin is playing a long game and is a much stronger position than Biden or the NATO "powers." Exactly what will happen, though, is a good question.

I'm not being particularly successful at managing stress, but the approach that works best with me is engagement with the non-human aspects of our world. The warblers don't care about our viruses or what is happening in Ukraine. For me, being present in nature and observing all of the goings-on totally oblivious to our societal convulsions is the best antidote.

Mark L

I never thought I'd find myself thinking warm thoughts about insurance companies. By and large -- well, I'd call them scumbags, but the Used Condom Defamation League would probably get on my case if I did. Still, the thought of watching the insurance industry and the pharmaceutical industry going at each other is a little like imagining a rabid dog and a cobra deciding to kill each other rather than hurting anyone else.

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