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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2025-05-04 10:25 pm

Magic Monday

workbook #2Midnight is upon us and so it's time to launch a new Magic Monday. Ask me anything about occultism, and with certain exceptions noted below, any question received by midnight Monday Eastern time will get an answer. Please note:  Any question or comment received after that point will not get an answer, and in fact will just be deleted.  If you're in a hurry, or suspect you may be the 341,928th person to ask a question, please check out the very rough version 1.3 of The Magic Monday FAQ here

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 image? I field a lot of questions about my books these days, so I've decided to do little capsule summaries of them here, one per week.  This is my seventy-sixth published book, the second workbook and fifth volume in the Golden Section Fellowship sequence of occult training textbooks. Earth mysteries, for those who aren't familiar with the term, is a catchall label for all the strange things associated with ancient ruins, folk traditions, places where paranormal things happen much more often than usual. The book on the right, John Michell's visionary masterpiece The View Over Atlantis, was my introduction to the field back in the day, as it was for so many other people -- it didn't hurt that the cover art was by Roger Dean, more famous for all that hallucinatory Yes album cover art -- and this book is partly my homage to Michell and a vanished era, partly a guide to integrating earth mysteries studies with occult training, and partly -- or mostly -- a hands-on guide to finding the weirdness in the place where you live. You can get a copy here if you're in the United States and here elsewhere; I recommend the hardback if you're doing the course, because you're going to put a year of hard use into the book. 

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(Anonymous) 2025-05-05 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
Hello JMG and Everybody,
The other night, I had a very vivid dream. I'm wondering if anyone is willing to take a stab at its meaning.
In this dream, I was in Crimea on the Black Sea beach. I was young. In my dream, I "knew" that this was Crimea. I was in an empty hut, which was about the size of a 2-car garage. From the window, I saw men hauling boats using ropes. Suddenly, I saw a gigantic tidal wave. I experienced a moment of intense fear and tried to calculate if I could escape. Then I felt calm and thought, "Oh, that's how I'm gonna die," and then I woke up.
Thank you for MM, JMG.
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[personal profile] neptunesdolphins 2025-05-05 02:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Free associations are what I do. Also, dreams do puns at times - such as holey socks indicating holy ... I kept dreaming about George Washington and the Battle of Trenton (more than three times), still working on that. Perhaps all your American work like Johnny Appleseed and the like has infected my dreamscape as well.

[personal profile] revert2mean 2025-05-05 08:04 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, you're having the tsunami dream too. I'm lots of people. I'm in a navy boat, I'm on the shore, I'm in a hut, it's like that famous beer ad - you can get it anywhere. You won't know what I mean about that if you're not Australian. But yes, I keep dreaming, over and over, of big waves. Really big waves.
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[personal profile] kylec 2025-05-05 04:20 pm (UTC)(link)
This is also my most recurring dream for many years, though I haven't seen it lately.

(Anonymous) 2025-05-05 04:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I had, too, for most of my youth. I was on the shore in different contexts but always knowing that the wave was coming.

It stopped when I consciously learned through swim through large waves in real life, to the purpose of doing in in a lucid dream, which kind of worked.

My interpretation was that it represents waves of emotions when dealing with trauma, fwiw.
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[personal profile] not_gandalf 2025-05-05 04:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I grew up in Hyde Park in Chicago, right by the shore of Lake Michigan, and I had a number of dreams about huge waves washing up over Lake Shore Drive. I've also had dreams about going over a bridge where the river (the Chicago River) had risen up to wash over and submerge the bridge, or of driving down a street to the river and suddenly the bridge has gone under the river. The meaning of these last two is pretty clear to me, I think. But the funny one was that these dreams totally stopped (when I used active imagination to interrogate the dream as to its meaning) and then one night I dreamt that I was on a drawbridge over the river and it had gaping holes in it, with the river rushing below, and, in the dream, I thought to myself "CRAP! Now I'm going to start having THIS dream again Goddamit!"

[personal profile] xcalibur_djs 2025-05-05 10:43 am (UTC)(link)
If I may ask, did you get a sense of the time period this was in? eg was the boat a modern design, or pre-industrial?
If this is contemporary, it could be like the "flashes" I've gotten of others' lives, except that those are waking, not in dreams. Maybe the "tidal wave" represented naval drones or a missile strike? Or if this is historical (as the hut suggests), it could be a past life memory, although again, those tend to be waking, not in dreams. That's all I've got!

(Anonymous) 2025-05-05 06:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Hi xcalibur_djs,
The time period was not contemporary. The boats were old-style. The men who hauled them did it as their regular job, using ropes as was done in old times. It's not my first dream when I "knew" that this was Crimea. I had them throughout my life, well before 2014. I felt that it might be past life memory, but our host tells us that they usually surface as memories and not in dreams. Also, I have a personal connection to Crimea. Though I never lived there, I spent 3 long Summers there as a child for a total of 8 months, so I definitely remember the vibe of the place. In all my dreams of Crimea, the action was always in the past before my summering there in the 70-s. Not related to the dream, but just a side note: only in 2014, when the current conflict started, I learned that Crimea belonged to Ukraine. As a child, I had no idea and thought it was Southern Russia. The language was Russian, the food was Russian (more austere than Ukrainian), the faces were Russian (more reserved than Ukrainian).
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[personal profile] neptunesdolphins 2025-05-05 02:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I am not sure if this will work - Crimea has been the news about whose territory it should be. That may be an in to think about since the tidal wave and the like also appeared. But each symbol in the dream is particular to the dreamer. Why the Crimea? Why the Black Sea? (a pun on black sea perhaps?) As JMG suggests, try free writing and see what comes up.
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[personal profile] open_space 2025-05-05 06:04 pm (UTC)(link)

My grandmother, my mom and myself all have had and still have the tsunami dream and we did without talking to each other until later. Oh, I have that dream too!

I once became semi conscious and surfed it, it was pretty slick, but otherwise it just happens every so often and I don't know what it might mean. Oddly there is not that much fear but awe in my case, it really is a very big wave. Last time I had it was about a year ago.

[personal profile] revert2mean 2025-05-05 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep, that's my experience too. You see the wave from lots of vantage points and the dream isn't really scary.

(Anonymous) 2025-05-05 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
The symbolism of a dream is of course deeply personal - but you dropped a hint when you mentioned the role Crimea played for you during your childhood, so I'll give it a try although it's very coarse and most things have already been mentioned:

Crimea is a place of your childhood. The death you thought about in the dream can very well symbolize a passage, for example when the child becomes an adult, or when you face some kind of life changing situation. Initiation, in a way. Water as a symbol for emotions, powerful, being out of your conscious control. The men and the (old) boats - past attempts to navigate the "waters", old strategies to stay afloat. Futile, given the power of the water. As is the shelter you're (hiding?) in.

A few questions that you might ask yourself: What has triggered the dream? Have you recently experienced anything that links to the Crimean summers of your childhood (not necessarily intellectually, but possibly emotionally)? Has anything happened during those summers that is still capable of rising strong emotions? Or that has shaped your personality - the way you react to certain situations - in ways that could be symbolized by boats and shelters?

I don't know if this goes in the right direction - but surely there are other questions you could ask your dream. If you meditate and practice some kind of divination these could be used - I have experienced that both can be very helpful to unpack the meanings of a dream. You can for example ask the oracle "What do I need to know about Crimea/the Sea/ ... in my dream?" and then meditate on the result and go on from there. But take it easy and listen to your intuition - at some point it might be better to be content with what you've got already and not go too far, at least for the moment.

Cheers,
Nachtgurke

(Anonymous) 2025-05-05 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you, Nachtgurke! 😊