ecosophia | Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 195

We are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; ~~public health authorities~~ government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

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With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

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I'm seeing rumors that real estate listing numbers are being gamed. This might obscure the picture, at least if you are looking at homes-for-sale as an indicator.

That wouldn't surprise me one bit.
I'm quite sure real estate, period, is being gamed.

- Cicada Grove

Yeah. I think the bubble is finally starting to pop, and there are a LOT of vested interests involved who would very much like it to NOT look like that is what is happening, at least until they can get their money out of it.

Prices are starting to falter in my area (I keep close tabs on this, as we've been failing to buy a house for like four years now), number of houses-for-sale, number of things sitting on the market and then having price reductions, is going up. I've seen some people who are watching the MLS listings directly, saying that weird patterns are emerging in number-of-listings in dicey overinflated markets like Phoenix, where listings numbers, on weekends, are dropping by nice round multiples-of-100 type amounts, then gradually drifting back up, which means either some hanky-panky is happening to try and obscure the actual sharply-rising number of unsold listings, OR (less likely, but not impossible?) some large entity is bulk-buying weirdly even numbers of houses all at once, on Fridays.

Totally apart from all the obvious fraud in that market, the boomers are the big homeowners, and they are dying off (assisted by the ESGs no doubt). A lot of the market inflation sort of counted on them staying in their oversized suburban houses forever. Bound to be some scrambling to hide that inconvenient fact, by people heavily invested in the whole houses-appreciate-forever myth. Expecting aggressive data fraud.

That said, we now have some experience with the patterns and perils of data fraud... if that's taught us anything, it's that you can hide the direct, naked numbers like death stats and cause-of-death data, but you can't fake everything all at once and the reality leaks out in weird places, like insurance companies and cell phone data, utility company usage, that sort of thing.

So what interesting datasets might help us poke at the real numbers of empty houses, if MLS is gaming the numbers?

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