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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2025-02-25 10:46 am

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 186

some successWe are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; public health authorities government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.


5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

6. Please don't just post bare links without explanation. A sentence or two telling readers what's on the other side of the link is a reasonable courtesy, and if you don't include it, your attempted post will be deleted.

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.


With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

God Mode

(Anonymous) 2025-02-25 07:15 pm (UTC)(link)
If this is true, things could get wild:

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news-selections/national-news/god-mode-access-achieved-to-all-usg-agency-computers

(Anonymous) 2025-02-25 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
'CDC defies RFK Jr and Trump in key vaccine maneuver
The CDC appeared to defy President Donald Trump by taking part in a vaccine meeting with the World Health Organization this week.

Under executive orders, the CDC was banned from communicating from WHO as the US started its withdrawal from the global health agency.

Trump cited the UN agency's failings during Covid and close ties to China as reasons for his government's exit.

However, a spokesperson for the CDC told DailyMail.com members from the organization 'will be actively participating virtually at the WHO vaccine consultation meeting for the recommendation of viruses for 2025-26 Northern Hemisphere Vaccine this week'.

The weeklong meeting began on Monday, with leaders from both the CDC and FDA in attendance.

Prior to the meeting, the two government agencies would have had to seek an exemption from the Trump administration.

Twice annually, WHO organizes consultations with an advisory group of experts to analyze global flu data, with recommendations issued on the composition of vaccines for the next flu season.

These recommendations are used by vaccine regulatory agencies and pharmaceutical companies to develop, produce and license flu vaccines over the course of several months.'


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14434259/CDC-defies-RFK-Jr-Trump-key-vaccine-maneuver.html

(Anonymous) 2025-02-25 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Following on from the fascinating discussion on p7 of last week's blog, I have a question re the need for boosters/antibody levels.

Am unjabbed, but isn't there a difference between getting a booster if uninfected with the disease jabbed against, and getting a booster +after+ being infected? It seems the memory B and T cells would only be able to produce antibodies in the presence of an already known antigen. Of course, in the case of the coof, the chances of not having been infected must be minuscule, making the need for a booster moot. And even if it's "updated" with a more recently extinct strain, so what?

Betwixt and Between

[personal profile] escorcher 2025-02-25 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Betwixt and Between

Eating bats is a very bad idea. Nearly as bad as poking sticks inside them and playing about with the result in labs. Pretty easy to see why stories dwelling on the dark side of these creatures developed and why they should be left alone and admired with a little distance!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14434117/doctors-mystery-illness-congo-people-die-symptoms.html

'Doctors sound alarm over mystery illness in Congo after 50 people die within hours of symptoms'

"According to the WHO's Africa office, the first outbreak started in the town of Boloko after three children reportedly ate a dead bat."

https://folklorethursday.com/folktales/bats-in-mythology-and-folklore-around-the-world/

"...at the edge of day and night they are seen as liminal beings and not part of the natural order. This liminality gives bats a supernatural air that further heightens mystery and distrust as they cross the borders between birds and mammals, day and night."

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[personal profile] charlieobert 2025-02-25 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
In the past three years, my distrust of allopathic medicine and its drugs has generalized.

Distrust of covid vaccines. More and more distrust of vaccines in general.

I'm seeing more stories about

- the dangers of ozempic,the weight loss drug.

- the dangers of anti-anxiety meds.

- the dangers of anti-depression meds.

- the dangers of blood pressure meds.

- the dangers of steroids, and statins.

- the dangers of ibuprofen, tylenol and related drugs.

...and so on.

In the past five years, since I had cancer in 2019, every drug I have been prescribed has had negative side effects on me. As far as I know those side effects faded after I quit taking them, but I have no way of being sure.

Here's a list of allopathic prescription meds I am confident are safe.

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-

-

That's it.

Trouble

[personal profile] boccaccio 2025-02-25 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
An example of a thread that shows a trend I see on X. Vaxx damage is being talked about openly, I suspect because more people are getting symptoms. The last round of jabs is several years behind most people, but the issues are stacking up.

Mary Talley Bowden MD
[profile] mdbreathe
(6:26 p.m. · 24 feb. 2025 ·3.8 million views)
I can always tell who has had the COVID shots when I measure antibody levels…. In the unvaccinated, levels are in the hundreds…. In the vaccinated, levels are 5000 to >25,000.

Brooke Miller M D
[profile] brookemillermd
In my experience the levels of anti spike are lower in the vaxxed patients without obvious PVS and > 10k -25k in PVS. The unvaxxed seem to have low levels of antinucleocapsid and no antispike. I get both antibody tests on all patients when investigating PVS or in unvaxxed at their request.

Mary Talley Bowden MD
[profile] mdbreathe
Agree, though I saw a 74 year old woman today whose levels were >25,000 and she had no obvious issues. She’s the exception rather than the rule though. Most people with high levels have symptoms. And I see the levels and symptoms go down with ivermectin.

Brooke Miller M D
[profile] brookemillermd
Agreed. Many other simple daily habits help tremendously. Carnivore or keto diet with fasting, Vit D and sunlight. Also have had great success treating neurological PVS with red/near infrared therapy, LDN and the biggest game changer for my patients has been hyperbaric oxygen.

LittleDeb
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We have done it all. My husband did a solid year of HBOT 3-5 days a week. No change, no improvement. Forced to get the shot to keep his job. Collapsed 1/2022.


NB In the same thread some people claim that they have high levels too despite not being vaxxed, some even post test results. I think that the virus can nestle in places where the immunesystem has trouble reaching and keeps creating similar issues as in the vaxxed. See for example this study from last week that shows the virus setting up camp in the mouth and teeth long term: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2025.02.17.638734v1

The Yale study we discussed last week also might indicate that a significant proportion of the population is spike injured. Spike was established in 33.6% of the vax damaged cases while in the healthy control group the percentage was 12.9%. In the healthy control group I bet the unvaxxed were overrepresented as compared with the total population while in the damaged group the vax percentage was of course 100%. For the total population this would get the amount of spike damaged people above or well above 15% (12.9% rounded up). This happens to fall in the same range as I calculated from bloodclot and infertility data (15-25%).

To make the situation even worse, in only a third of the vax injured could spike be found. That begs the question what is wrong with the other two thirds. The vax seems to cause other problems that impact people (perhaps unrepairable damage to nerves and heart etc)

We have a serious problem at hand. I’ll put it bluntly: By the time Trump and RFK have "fixed the food", a big chunk of the inhabitants of mRNA injected counties will be dead from Cancer/T-cell exhaustion/Bloodclots/Mitochondrial dysfunction or other spikeopathy varieties. The time for action is now!!
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[personal profile] jruss 2025-02-25 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Anyone else following reports of a new COVID outbreak in Wuhan China?

(Anonymous) 2025-02-26 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
"And I see the levels and symptoms go down with ivermectin."

There is hope.

- Cicada Grove

(Anonymous) 2025-02-26 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
I feel this week's meme would have been even more on the nose if all the people in it were flipping the bird.

Vaccines and Autism

(Anonymous) 2025-02-26 05:02 am (UTC)(link)
I wanted to share with the readership this link about vaccines and its connection to autism. It's not related to COVID, but the concern about vaccine injury is relevant.

https://jbhandley.substack.com/p/international-scientists-have-found?r=bimpn&utm_medium=ios&triedRedirect=true


STAFFORDSHIRE, England —Dr. Chris Exley of Keele University in England and his colleagues published a paper that for the first time ever looked at the brain tissue of subjects with autism to determine the level of aluminum (note: they spell “aluminum” as “aluminium” in the United Kingdom) found within their brain tissue. For anyone trying to convince the world that “the science is settled and vaccines don’t cause autism,” the study’s findings are deeply contradictory to that statement. In a blog post written by Professor Exley on the day his study was published, he explained the groundbreaking result:

“…while the aluminium content of each of the 5 brains [of people with autism] was shockingly high it was the location of the aluminium in the brain tissue which served as the standout observation…The new evidence strongly suggests that aluminium is entering the brain in ASD [autism spectrum disorders] via pro-inflammatory cells which have become loaded up with aluminium in the blood and/or lymph, much as has been demonstrated for monocytes at injection sites for vaccines including aluminium adjuvants.”

“…while the aluminium content of each of the 5 brains [of people with autism] was shockingly high it was the location of the aluminium in the brain tissue which served as the standout observation…The new evidence strongly suggests that aluminium is entering the brain in ASD [autism spectrum disorders] via pro-inflammatory cells which have become loaded up with aluminium in the blood and/or lymph, much as has been demonstrated for monocytes at injection sites for vaccines including aluminium adjuvants.”
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Denninger's comments on Alberta Covid report, Yale study

[personal profile] drhooves 2025-02-26 05:07 am (UTC)(link)
A few days ago Karl Denninger posted a blog entry (wtih 8 pages of comments) on a couple of recent reports indicating how bad The Jabs were - and how he warned against it before they were available.

https://market-ticker.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?post=252858

Yes, he does some patting of his own back, but he was one of the first to publish warnings about MRNA.

Here's the link to the report last month from out of Alberta - not sure if it's been posted before, though I did see numerous comments on these threads about the Yale report.

https://open.alberta.ca/dataset/88bbf80e-f8c8-4355-b751-c2086e204b34/resource/73efb35c-41d9-4264-881d-15a1f76861d3/download/hlth-albertas-covid-19-pandemic-response-2025-01-revised-biographies.pdf

From page 189:

"Pfizer vaccine safety data from the three-month post-authorization trial was alarming.
o 1,223 deaths attributed to the vaccine.
o 42,086 people injured within 4 days of vaccination.
o 45% of these were between the ages of 18-50 (who were at negligible risk from COVID-19 infection)."

That's just one bullet point from the list of key findings beginning on page 187....

[personal profile] coyote_girl 2025-02-26 06:19 am (UTC)(link)
One thing I've been wondering on this whole covid cult is how it ties into the social myth of progress. On the surface the experimental gene therapy is passed off as the new miracle technology as life and nature is further subjugated to scientific advancement.

That certainly covers a fair number of believers, but how many saw the lock downs and work from home as an escape from the soul crushing corporate world? I recall hearing of some of the people during the Y2K non-event 25 years ago who were more worried that they would just have to go back to more of the same. I wonder how many have had enough of progress and the treadmill of consumerism and indentured servitude? The rat race looks to be proving more than just hell for introverts.

I wonder if a subconscious driver for some of the mania is also the stresses of a declining civilization while pretending everything is still progressing? Want more cognitive disconnect with your covid? Though the main hysteria is still from the massive fear spell authorities have been playing. Still that's a lot of emotional energy out there that could find an interesting new direction if the narrative really does unravel.
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[personal profile] the_arcane_archivist 2025-02-26 03:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't remember if this meme was around

(Anonymous) 2025-02-26 07:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Had to worn a hard hat my entire working life started with one made of metal which I still have. Then plastic because of color coding to ID your trade which turned out to be a good idea if something bad happen some people just like to let the magic smoke out of equipment then wonder why it does not work. So being retired maybe time to bring out my old metal hat it is silver in color. Blueberry

Thank you

(Anonymous) 2025-02-27 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
Week 186

Thank you, JMG and thank you, forumistas.

I've been traveling this week. In the 3 airports I passed through I noticed that far fewer people are wearing masks now. Maybe 1 in 50 or 60 people. But as for the ones who were wearing masks, those masks were almost all black and wow, the vibe I sensed from the wearers was intense, and especially intense from the ones who appeared to be healthy.

For real, on the plane, the recorded safety message instructed us to take off our mask before attaching the oxygen mask. Nobody laughed.

More sad stories this week about people who have recently died. And last week the daughter-in-law of a colleague almost died after giving birth, from severe hemorrhaging. Given the sociology and the profession, I'd be very surprised if she wasn't fully boosted. Fortunately she seems to be OK now. But I'm not so sure.

I think Pope Francis is about to go.

Cetiosaurus

Rogan and Harrelson on the jab

[personal profile] fredsmith11 2025-02-27 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
One of Joe's routine interviews:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztXzOIH7x10

They start talking about the jab around the 9 min mark and go at it until around the 27 min mark.

"Mainstream media lies constantly".

"Pharma pushes shit through they know harms you".

Etc, etc.

Spike injury by shedding?

(Anonymous) 2025-02-27 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
Does anyone know of information about injuries from the spike protein to people who are unquaxxinated, but who have been exposed to the spike protein via contact with those who have been quaxxinated? I gather the spike is exhaled by the latter for some weeks after the quaxx.

(Anonymous) 2025-02-27 04:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Betrayed by the Science: Doctors Confirm COVID Shot Linked to Nursing Home Director’s Devastating Bone-Rotting Condition

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/02/betrayed-science-doctors-confirm-covid-shot-linked-nursing/

this is very awful..
i have a friend who told me that after she took the second shot, her shoulder was 'gone'
she said she knew it was from the vaxx..
she said she had to have surgery for it and was waiting on an appt.

so now i wonder if this is what she had.. why she said it was 'gone'..

(Anonymous) 2025-02-27 04:15 pm (UTC)(link)
HHS Secretary RFK Jr. Halts Biden Administration’s $240 Million Contract for Oral COVID Vaccine

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/02/hhs-secretary-rfk-jr-halts-biden-administrations-240/

i am glad to hear this!
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Lung issues from Long Covid or Jabs?

[personal profile] drhooves 2025-02-27 04:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I have a high school classmate (we're in our early 60s) who is having major problems with her lungs - they are hyperinflated (enlarged due to trapped air) and the doctor(s) describe it as idiopathic (cause unknown).

She had a severe bout of COVID in 2020, and got the Jabs in 2021, and she believes her lungs may have been compromised by the virus or the vaccines.

She's tried using a CPAP machine and numerous medications, but none of the treatments so far seem to help. I dug around all the COVID docs I have, and I can't find much info that would correlate that as the cause, though of course it's a respiratory virus.

Has anyone heard about a similar case?

(Anonymous) 2025-02-27 05:05 pm (UTC)(link)
FDA cancels vaccine advisory meeting for choosing flu strains for next season’s shots

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/02/26/fda-cancels-vaccine-advisory-meeting-for-choosing-flu-shots.html

this seems like a good thing

Empty Gestures: One Heck of a Covid Recap from Joshua Stylam

(Anonymous) 2025-02-27 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Earlier this week Joshua Stylman published one heck of a covid recap. I had to read it in chunks because I felt so much rage at seeing the whole creation laid out.

https://stylman.substack.com/p/empty-gestures

The first paragraph of the piece:
Reality engineering requires three components: institutional power to create the narrative, social pressure to enforce it, and the deliberate persecution of anyone who challenges either. The COVID era provided the perfect case study in how this machinery operates - and revealed how performative activism serves as its most potent enforcement mechanism.

Living in the Aftermath

[personal profile] fredsmith11 2025-02-28 09:27 am (UTC)(link)
https://x.com/toobaffled/status/1895305843924705332

"People will keep dying, keep being extremely ill, probably be infertile."

"Worst thing that ever happened in the history of our species."

Has anyone noticed a shift in the collective consciousness? It's hard to explain, but it occurs as somehow 'flat'. I think a sense of optimism about the future has gone from a lot of people, subconsciously perhaps.

(Anonymous) 2025-02-28 06:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Is there no Frugal Friday today?

Trump/Zelensky/Vance today

(Anonymous) 2025-02-28 06:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought this was relevant in the sense that a lot of previously hidden stuff is just being done right out in the open - it's astonishing - I never thought I would see a photo op diplomatic meeting between national leaders where you see smiles and handshakes turn into a literal shouting match.

Trump and Vance are speaking completely plainly to him, like they'd speak at the dinner table but in public in front of the entire world's media. Just..astonishing. And Vance has clearly been assigned to be Trump's hatchet man to go and tell people unpleasant truths (to Zelensky, to Starmer earlier in the week about British free speech, in Munich..). He's very good at it too - I'm a big Vance fan (even more than Trump).

https://x.com/CNviolations/status/1895532546513105117

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