ecosophia | Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 186

We are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; ~~public health authorities~~ government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.

3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.

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Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

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I have a high school classmate (we're in our early 60s) who is having major problems with her lungs - they are hyperinflated (enlarged due to trapped air) and the doctor(s) describe it as idiopathic (cause unknown).

She had a severe bout of COVID in 2020, and got the Jabs in 2021, and she believes her lungs may have been compromised by the virus or the vaccines.

She's tried using a CPAP machine and numerous medications, but none of the treatments so far seem to help. I dug around all the COVID docs I have, and I can't find much info that would correlate that as the cause, though of course it's a respiratory virus.

Has anyone heard about a similar case?

"she believes her lungs may have been compromised by the virus or the vaccines".

No treatment is being recommended and always consult your doctor before doing anything.

Chlorine dioxide e.g. https://www.amazon.com.au/Oneness-Chlorine-Dioxide-Liquid-Classic/dp/B08F7C5HSC/ref=sr_1_2

How to Detox from the COVID Shot https://www.dropbox.com/s/gz8p6sc5ojgnthv/How%20to%20Detox%20from%20the%20COVID%20Shot.pdf?dl=0

Vaccine Adverse Events Treatment https://www.dropbox.com/s/j1wetxinmod96yn/Vaccine%20Adverse%20Events%20Treatment.pdf?dl=0

TOP FIVE recommended substances to mitigate damage from mRNA vaccines https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/o5zm36oaxdsdlma38ld8x/TOP-FIVE-recommended-substances-to-mitigate-damage-from-mRNA-vaccines.doc?dl=0&rlkey=b17j0mu1yag0c6xrcz81zzmyt

Yes, you can detox from covid “vaccine” spike proteins_ here’s how https://www.dropbox.com/s/g0o3acbyr66bpq6/Yes%2C%20you%20can%20detox%20from%20covid%20%E2%80%9Cvaccine%E2%80%9D%20spike%20proteins_%20here%E2%80%99s%20how.pdf?dl=0

FLCCC_Alliance-I-RECOVER-Protocol-PostVaccine-v1-25May2022 https://www.dropbox.com/s/a2sxkhijkdxc70b/FLCCC_Alliance-I-RECOVER-Protocol-PostVaccine-v1-25May2022.pdf?dl=0

Thank you for the links. I've poked around quite a bit and still can't find any instances where hyperinflated lungs are a side effect of the virus or the Jabs, but she's got nothing to lose with some treatment options related to the vaccines. She's complaining of lack of energy too, but if your lungs aren't working properly, that's a given.

It must be very frustrating to not get any direction from her doctors on treatment, and everything tried isn't working. It's probably even more frustrating to discover the misleading guidance given by the health care industry on the Jabs, and how it's turned out that they're unsafe, ineffective and unnecessary....

I just read a description of a severe lung injury (not quite the same as you describe) that was immensely helped by DMSO (a substance that has been mentioned here numerous times.)

https://rescue.substack.com/p/the-dmso-moment-how-an-old-medicine

(Not medical advice, of course, and your friend should always consult with licensed medical professionals-- that's the law!)

Nonetheless, my best wishes to your friend for a similarly miraculous recovery story.

*Ochre Harebrained Curmudgeon*

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 186

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