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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2025-02-11 10:48 am

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 184

bullies, all of themWe are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; public health authorities government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.


5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

6. Please don't just post bare links without explanation. A sentence or two telling readers what's on the other side of the link is a reasonable courtesy, and if you don't include it, your attempted post will be deleted.

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.


With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Re: Covid and medical advice

(Anonymous) 2025-02-12 02:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Blame the Carnegie-funded Flexner report of 1910. This report claimed to prescribe means of improving America's often shockingly poor medical education system. But it just happened to recommend closing down all non-allopathic medical schools, crushing several modalities. Allopathic medical schools were ordered to remove classes like naturopathy from their curricula or lose accreditation. Likewise, an increase in state boards' power to serve as gatekeepers was called for; they could then refuse to license the incompetent, but also the dissenting.

An explicit goal and outcome was to greatly reduce the number of medical schools - and thereby graduates, which reduced competition. The report intentionally forced the closure of all but two Black medical schools, and demanded that the few Blacks who would still be allowed medical training at those two should be treated as inferiors, allowed to become only "sanitarians" and not surgeons, and allowed to treat only Blacks. Opportunities for women were also constricted, due to the far smaller number of places available and the announcement of Flexner that women didn't really want to go to med school and were only good at pediatrics and the like anyway.

On the more specific topic, it's legal to talk about alternative treatments as long as you aren't getting paid to prescribe, or giving explicit medical "advice" to individual people. JMG is old enough to remember when armed Food and Drug Administration employees would raid herb stores and confiscate books about herbalism, claiming that selling the book under the same roof as the herbs equated to putting disease claims on the herbs, making them misbranded drugs. This is of course a ridiculous legal argument and it hasn't been tried in decades. With the dangerous gibberish that gets spouted on the internet without punishment, nobody these days needs to fear making truthful statements about alternatives, certainly if they're not selling anything. But corporate power is on the rise, so I'd better include some caveat: PROBABLY.

Re: Covid and medical advice

(Anonymous) 2025-02-12 05:36 pm (UTC)(link)
That is a delicious image, armed police seizing herbals!