ecosophia | Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 176

We are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; ~~public health authorities~~ government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. I have added a new rule (see below, #6):

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.

3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.

5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.

6. Please don't just post bare links without explanation. A sentence or two telling readers what's on the other side of the link is a reasonable courtesy, and if you don't include it, your attempted post will be deleted.

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

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A friend of mine sent me this paper earlier today about the work of an Argentinian researcher. I have not been able to check the reputation and history of the journal, but still thought of sharing it here.

Here is the abstract:
The experimental vaccines supposedly invented to combat COVID-19 were coercively forced upon the global population beginning late in 2020. They have precipitated innumerable and varied disease conditions ranging from mild to lethal. This increase in health disorders and sudden deaths began to manifest concomitantly with the number of people inoculated and doses administered per person. By the end of 2023, 24 undeclared chemical elements had been detected by Scanning Electron Microscopy Coupled with Energy-Dispersive X-Ray Spectroscopy (SEM-EDX), in the COVID-19 vaccines of the different brands, by various research groups from different countries around the world. In this paper, we report laboratory results from high precision Inductively Coupled Plasma Mass Spectrometry (ICP-MS) that confirm and expand previous results by SEM-EDX. To this end, the contents of vials from different lots of the brands AstraZeneca/Oxford, CanSino Biologics, Pfizer/BioNTech, Sinopharm, Moderna and Sputnik V were analyzed. Among the undeclared chemical elements were detected 11 of the 15 cytotoxic lanthanides used in electronic devices and optogenetics. In addition, among the undeclared elements were all 11 of the heavy metals: chromium was found in 100% of the samples; arsenic 82%; nickel 59%; cobalt and copper 47%; tin 35%; cadmium, lead and manganese in 18%; and mercury in 6%. A total of 55 undeclared chemical elements were found and quantified with ICP-MS. Combining these findings with results from SEM-EDX, altogether 62 undeclared chemical elements have been found in the various products. In all brands, we found boron, calcium, titanium, aluminum, arsenic, nickel, chromium, copper, gallium, strontium, niobium, molybdenum, barium and hafnium. With ICP-MS, we found that the content of the samples is heterogeneous, the elemental composition varies in different aliquots extracted from the same vial.

At Least 55 Undeclared Chemical Elements Found in COVID-19 Vaccines from AstraZeneca, CanSino, Moderna, Pfizer, Sinopharm and Sputnik V, with Precise ICP-MS

Edited 2024-12-17 19:57 (UTC)

Glancing at the paper, it looks like they have used extremely sensitive methods to detect minute quantities of various elements and chemicals. The tables list concentrations in micrograms/liter, which works out to parts-per-billion. I don't have any reference materials handy to check against the standards, but I would guess most of that stuff is well within accepted limits.

Stuff like boron and calcium could come from the glass vial. Varius metals could come from the stainless steel equipment the stuff was made it. Some amount of contamination of this kind is unavoidable, and these levels could probably be found in anything, if you look hard enough. That's why there are internationally accepted limits for how much there can be.

I couldn't say whether that makes it safe to inject the stuff into a human body. But if we're quibbling about this level of contamination, pretty much all injectable drugs would be suspect. I mean, it wouldn't be just these particular experimental gene therapies that are problematic.

Thank you so much for the elucidation regarding the paper! The reason why I put the disclaimer was that because on initial inspection it seemed to me that if the conclusions were as grave as they sounded, we would be having a much bigger problem, so thank you for showing me how they might in fact be, not wrong, but also not right.

As you say, it seems to be another attempt to not look at the culprit.

It made something click for me too. For a while I was thinking that the main problem with the vaccine was badly applied science due to greed and rushing and I bet there is some of that. But talking to people that work as scientists it seems to me now much more likely that a very important part of what we think we know about vaccine manufacture and physiology is very wrong in fundamental things we don't understand yet.

I don't know how to talk to someone about the science being wrong... because what happens next is that then you have to point out the flaw in their zoomed-in arguments --even if the zoomed-out conclusion is completely out of touch with reality-- for them to listen to you.

Ok, this sent a chill down my spine because the little language I thought I had to talk reason into this just evaporated, you can't talk reason to the insane.

It kinda makes me want to apologize to all that I have rolled my eyes because I had no idea that is what it was said when people said "the science is wrong" or equivalents, on a variety of subjects. Science is not wrong, but whatever that is, isn't science! So, yes, that thing that is passing as science is wrong. Another hook just got set free and I need to fix a cup of tea for myself...

"... likely that a very important part of what we think we know about vaccine manufacture and physiology is very wrong in fundamental things we don't understand yet."

I will venture to say that I think this conjecture is definitely facing in the right direction... :)

Given that I am mostly clueless in how socio-politics work, this means a lot :)

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 176

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